Backing up Questions

Ok im busting out of my ass to get started in this scene but i really need to know some things.

Whith the DVD roms i only know of two that work the LG 8164b & 8163b, however these seem to be harder than rocking horse sh!t to find in the stores and online that will ship to australia. Amazon wont ship to me and that seems to be the only place to find them. But when i do look for them i see things like the GDR-8164BB and other exensions of that i want to know do these BB drives work or if any one can tell me of a place that ships the compatible drives world wide and more importantly where to get them.

This leads me to my second Question, How do we Burn the Wii ISO's?
I remember Game cube games were very picky on how they were burnt and with the program used to burn them. and does anyone know if the Wii is picky with the media it takes? do we need to adjust the pot?

and my last question if any one s able to answer this yet, When using things like Gcos on the Wii is it possible under GC mode to read more than the standard 1.4GBs of the disc? i think it would be awesome to pack a DVD full of cube ISOs.

LG 8164b & 8163b

i saw a few on ebay today

There seems to be a lack of verified information on the subject, however I would go by the original post on the Wiinja. It at least gives a good idea on what media you can use (don't remember them all but I remember verbatim media works) however nothing has been said about write speed or application. I would say if the program can understand the image format, you'll likely get a good burn. I know you must be worried about backing up a ton of your games and then when the chip is finally in your console, they don't work... what I would suggest due to the similarities in the GC and Wii drives would be to use the same applications and methods that would be used for GC images. 4x speed in Nero (a version known to produce good GC burns), no cheap media. Also I believe to get a working disc, you must descramble the image prior to burning (kind of obvious, I know).

Hope this helps until we get the chips ourselves and verify a proper method!

Cheers,
Vandalist

Originally Posted by vandalisthero

There seems to be a lack of verified information on the subject, however I would go by the original post on the Wiinja. It at least gives a good idea on what media you can use (don't remember them all but I remember verbatim media works) however nothing has been said about write speed or application. I would say if the program can understand the image format, you'll likely get a good burn. I know you must be worried about backing up a ton of your games and then when the chip is finally in your console, they don't work... what I would suggest due to the similarities in the GC and Wii drives would be to use the same applications and methods that would be used for GC images. 4x speed in Nero (a version known to produce good GC burns), no cheap media. Also I believe to get a working disc, you must descramble the image prior to burning (kind of obvious, I know).

Hope this helps until we get the chips ourselves and verify a proper method!

Cheers,
Vandalist

yea the lack of verified info really sh!ts me, about the chip and what DVD rom to get. but thats normal i guess since the hacking has only been going about a ,month for the wii

Originally Posted by evlspcmk

yea the lack of verified info really sh!ts me, about the chip and what DVD rom to get. but thats normal i guess since the hacking has only been going about a ,month for the wii

Yeah, the way I see it, we're just going to have to wait another week or two to get some cold hard facts and user experiences (as well as reading a lot more of peoples incessant b****ing, lol), but at that time we'll have the chips in our hands and know for ourselves, huh?

EDIT: By the way, I can't wait to find out if we can use the full capacity of full size DVD media for multi boot games. What a bonus that would be!

If that works I hope my GC doesn't hit some poor guy in the head when I throw it out of my window, lol.

I dont think you'll be able to create multi-game dvd's. Your only burning the image of the actual game. To do this you'll have to recompile another iso with all the files from various games into that one iso, which in turn will break the sig of the raw dumps.

Originally Posted by babb_z

I dont think you'll be able to create multi-game dvd's. Your only burning the image of the actual game. To do this you'll have to recompile another iso with all the files from various games into that one iso, which in turn will break the sig of the raw dumps.

thats why i ment like putting it through a Gcos style loader... if i remember i had the Ninja Bios flashed to my qoob for a while and im pretty shure some version of Gcos had a disk explorer where you could just hit the iso file and your racing... i really think this could be a possibility on the wii i mean some one has all ready ported GCos on the Wii so all we need is a DVD explorer feature added and we can really find out

Is the LG GDR-8164(B) The right DVD-Rom-Drive then or MUST be the name LG 8164 without GDR????

Originally Posted by GePiYa

Is the LG GDR-8164(B) The right DVD-Rom-Drive then or MUST be the name LG 8164 without GDR????

I wouldn't worry about the GDR bit, thats usually just the part of the product code that manufacturers indicate what type of product it is; ie GDR is probably DVD-Rom drive. LG would have to be all kinds of stupid to release a drive called the GDR-8164 and another drive called the 8164.

Originally Posted by evlspcmk

thats why i ment like putting it through a Gcos style loader... if i remember i had the Ninja Bios flashed to my qoob for a while and im pretty shure some version of Gcos had a disk explorer where you could just hit the iso file and your racing... i really think this could be a possibility on the wii i mean some one has all ready ported GCos on the Wii so all we need is a DVD explorer feature added and we can really find out

Yes, babb_z, I was refering to this as well, hence my gamecube going out the window if it works.

Originally Posted by StormB

I wouldn't worry about the GDR bit, thats usually just the part of the product code that manufacturers indicate what type of product it is; ie GDR is probably DVD-Rom drive. LG would have to be all kinds of stupid to release a drive called the GDR-8164 and another drive called the 8164.

I think that they also released DA-8164 and D-8164. This is why i ask.

Well it seems to make sense.. I manged to get a zelda.wii file, which I unscrambled to make a slightly smaller ISO.

The ISO is the right size, its 'legal' and opens in ISOEDIT (I just shows one track).. I am now burning it with nero.

If this is how its going to be its DEAD simply... But since I don't have a chip yet, I can't actually test it.

Fingers crossed that this is all there is too it!!

Jon

hey jweaver whats about the size of your zelda?


when i finished with all the info of rawdump says

Size 4517
Speed 567MB/hour
Time:07:57:12
Position 00230470 of 00230470
and unscrambled filesize: 4.699.979.776 Bytes

the same like wario ware smooth moves

exactly the same

what do you think?

Originally Posted by vandalisthero

Yes, babb_z, I was refering to this as well, hence my gamecube going out the window if it works.

Sorry guys i missunderstood a bit. I bypassed the gamecube era so im not really up on all the third party OS's and such. But if its a possibilty, then ill have to agree that it would be sweet.

Originally Posted by marmic

hey jweaver whats about the size of your zelda?


when i finished with all the info of rawdump says

Size 4517
Speed 567MB/hour
Time:07:57:12
Position 00230470 of 00230470
and unscrambled filesize: 4.699.979.776 Bytes

the same like wario ware smooth moves

exactly the same

what do you think?

well, that's because it's a raw iso right? So every bit of the disc is copied, even empty ones