The Wii, officially hacked

[hey_suburbia]

The guys over at 24C3 just demoed a Wii hack that is set to provide native Wii
homebrew in the near future (not running in GC mode, and with full access to all the Wii hardware!)

They were able to find encryption and decryption keys by doing full memory
dumps at runtime over a custom serial interface. Using these keys, they were
able to create a Wii ‘game’ that ran their own code (their demo happened to show live sensor/Wiimote information, amongst a few other things).

http://wiinintendo.net/2007/12/28/the-wii-officially-hacked/

[hey_suburbia]

I just updated the article with the actual video:

http://wiinintendo.net/2007/12/28/the-wii-officially-hacked/

[Adan0s]

jep, it got hacked.

they used a lego star wars 2-image to insert whose own code and then encrypted it to start it again in the wii

[shakuhatch]

That's awesome :D

[fanni]

Excellent news hopefully this could lead to a perfect working n64 emulator :eek::cool:

[FoxForceFive]

If this is true it's the best thing imaginable for the Wii scene.

Homebrew Wii games have soooo much potential.

[gene0915]

Does this mean we can look forward to copies of games running on non-chipped systems kinda how they did with the Sega Dreamcast back in the day?

[Erroneuz]

Hitting refresh her, just waiting for the video to pop up :)

[Adan0s]

Does this mean we can look forward to copies of games running on non-chipped systems kinda how they did with the Sega Dreamcast back in the day?

hopefully no

btw for those who are too lazy to leech 800mb's for watching 5mins of presentation..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5YB1Mmx7E4

[tray262]

Does this mean we can look forward to copies of games running on non-chipped systems kinda how they did with the Sega Dreamcast back in the day?

Doubtful on that,

The dreamcast was release with basically debug mode turned on, so if it didn't find the "sign" it would force run. Way to go Sega.

[sabatino]

on what chip does it work???
do you think it'll work on wiikey???:confused:

[Erroneuz]

on what chip does it work???
do you think it'll work on wiikey???:confused:
It has nothing to do with a drive-modchip, which Wiikey and every other modchip for the Wii at the moment are.

Wait for mere info.

[Cyrone]

Wow.. homebrew with Wii motion controls? **** yeah.
Does this mean we can "flash" it like we can do to 360's? A little confused.

[BadAdd]

i wonder what version wii the running it on

[ichiro51zr]

April fools

[kickinass]

Wow.. homebrew with Wii motion controls? **** yeah.
Does this mean we can "flash" it like we can do to 360's? A little confused.

360 doesn't do homebrew yet. The 360 mod is basically the same as the current wii mod. Only lets you play burned discs.

[panyan1991]

i cant wait for a brand new firmware where we can download homebrew channels, unlock vc games to everyone, etc

[ichiro51zr]

i cant wait for a brand new firmware where we can download homebrew channels, unlock vc games to everyone, etc

OMG if this happens I hope we dont need a chip

[Skyline34]

I'm not into the whole Wii-Scene, but this is actually very interesting, I'm anxious to see what is coming of this!

[spoogle]

Does this mean we can look forward to copies of games running on non-chipped systems kinda how they did with the Sega Dreamcast back in the day?


It means proper bios replacement modchips instead of drivechips. Drivechips are fine but no unsigned code means no homebrew (previous homebrew has been using the GC workaround),

[irri]

Finally! The moment everyone have waited for :D

[billysastard]

Finally! The moment everyone have waited for :D

might be worth getting an extra wii to chip it for homebrew, just imagine if someone ports xbmc to play off an sd card :D we'd have codecs the others could only dream of and it could certainly fit on a standard sd, even better if it opened up a usb hdd add on even if only for media.

[Quantumsource]

On the one hand I imagine that loading a burned disk would require a drive chip on the other if they cracked the code then it maybe possible to burn a disk that literally read like an original disk.

[Mordenkainen]

I would expect that you will still need the drive chip, but not a full BIOS replacement modchip (though this does make that possible!).

It looks like they patched the game to run their code, then resigned the executable.

Either that or they pulled a Habibi and changed the encryption key to something they can sign with.

In either case the disc probably is not going to pass the checks that the drive firmware does because it's not a pressed disc, so the drive chip would still be needed to get the game to be recognized on the WII.

From there it sounds like software only, so no need of a BIOS replacement. If they have the keys and can either use them to sign/encrypt (symmetrical encryption, software only) or change them to something easily factored like Habibi did and sign with the new keys (asymmetrical encryption, would require a BIOS replacement) or a little of both (boot a specially signed DVD, it patches the keys, then you load a homebrew DVD signed with the new keys) if they don't want to risk releasing Nintendo's keys.

From the description of the attack they used against it, and the video of the demo, it seems unlikely to me that you will need anything more then the drive chip.

Keep in mind, no unsigned code does not mean no homebrew. It just means homebrew needs to be signed. This is the way the original XBox was exploited, Habibi changed the key to something that we could sign against ourselves. All XBox homebrew is "signed".

Morden.

[*StoneCold*]

This is going to be a new Bios Modchip like ALL the PS2 chips.

[ichiro51zr]

does a bios chip get soldered in a different place than a drive chip?

[MrViewtiful]

Ugh I can imagine all the porno wii homebrew games that will comeout... all those... motion controls...

[Mordenkainen]

does a bios chip get soldered in a different place than a drive chip?

Well, yeah... I thought that was obvious...
One attaches to the DRIVE (Drive Chip)
One attaches to the BIOS (BIOS Chip)

BIOS Chip is gonna have a lot more wires too.

[Quantumsource]

I doubt a drive chip would be needed to actually play the new homebrew.
edit: I mean bios chip

[hey_suburbia]

Two updates to the article:

http://wiinintendo.net/2007/12/28/the-wii-officially-hacked/

[Gambit]

I just love to read those dumb posts from people who don't know what this hack is about, but only thing they are curious about is will it work on their modchip... bunch of fools...

[RaiderX]

was planning on getting a wii as soon as my local gamestop has one, now I'll have to wait to chip it. great development, hope it progresses well.

[ichiro51zr]

go here to see the event live

mms://streaming-internet.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/saal3

EDIT: "Today is 28th december, "día de los inocentes", a day similar to April's Fools in many countries. I would suspect this news to be fake."

[-= MB =-]

Only in spanish speaking countries, we are dealing with germans here.

[ichiro51zr]

This is real, and for all you people who are calling fake do realize where they were presenting at, right? Why would anyone get up at a hacker convention and try to fool others when they are going right back to their collaboration rooms to show others and further the work?

And as was said earlier, if you have hacked the encryption then modchips will soon be a thing of the past. With so many ways to get code into the machine (SD card, USB, Bluetooth, etc.) it will be easy for them to get the drive into regular DVD mode and read backups. They just have to find a way to get something to load from one of those inputs. It's all a matter of time, just like it was with Gamecube. Always remember, whatever Nintendo does has to be compatible with the millions of Wiis already out there -- they can't stop it.

[btotheg]

Cool, hopefully we can get some good emulators working on this thing sometime soon. Would love to be able to play Majora's Mask on my Wii.

[djkatarat]

Cool, hopefully we can get some good emulators working on this thing sometime soon. Would love to be able to play Majora's Mask on my Wii.

i would love to play that too, since i never really played it before, i just rented it, and tested it out once before.

[Sal]

Ugh I can imagine all the porno wii homebrew games that will comeout... all those... motion controls...

probably lol

[robcrazee]

I cant believe it its real at last. Want to play doom with motion sensor :D i will use my favourite motto now......what is made by man can be broken by man.....just the ps3 now and i will but one of them too :D (altho downloading 50gig games :O )

[ichiro51zr]

I cant believe it its real at last. Want to play doom with motion sensor :D i will use my favourite motto now......what is made by man can be broken by man.....just the ps3 now and i will but one of them too :D (altho downloading 50gig games :O )

actually for the PS3 a game hack would only be good if u could rent the game and save it to ur PS3 HDD, if not most ppl dont have blu ray burners and blu ray disks are expensive.

But for the wii, this is definately real and wait for December 30th for the Wii portion of the Chaos hacking conference.

[robcrazee]

actually for the PS3 a game hack would only be good if u could rent the game and save it to ur PS3 HDD, if not most ppl dont have blu ray burners and blu ray disks are expensive.

But for the wii, this is definately real and wait for December 30th for the Wii portion of the Chaos hacking conference.

i do agree but still i have kept out of the 360 ps3 arena as im happy with my ps2 with hard drive :D but now i do begin to feel the lure altho the wii is excellent and well who can imagine what will come next. Just the possibillities of Wii homebrew is endless and imagine what will be released in the next 6 months this is a very exciting time for the Wii scene.feels like when the psp was hacked for the 1st time :D

[ichiro51zr]

Once we get backups on a wii driive, i am gettn a terabyte of storage.

[downlowfunk]

might be worth getting an extra wii to chip it for homebrew, just imagine if someone ports xbmc to play off an sd card :D we'd have codecs the others could only dream of and it could certainly fit on a standard sd, even better if it opened up a usb hdd add on even if only for media.


Amazing Codecs no one else has? Dude the Wii outputs 480P. my xbmc plays HiDef content at 720P. The better IBM processer hopefully will do MAME better. Sure would love to have my wii be an XBMC type device though. plus the kewl Blue Tooth Homebrew apps will rock. Maybe we could get a good web browser ported?

Awesome!!! so cant wait!!!

[downlowfunk]

Ugh I can imagine all the porno wii homebrew games that will comeout... all those... motion controls...


Awesome.
:D

[Quantumsource]

my xbmc plays HiDef content at 720P.

how did you pull that off? do you have one of those cpu modded xboxes?

[CZroe]

Doubtful on that,

The dreamcast was release with basically debug mode turned on, so if it didn't find the "sign" it would force run. Way to go Sega.

Don't doubt it. If they can get SD card channel homebrew, we win!

It has nothing to do with a drive-modchip, which Wiikey and every other modchip for the Wii at the moment are.

Wait for mere info.
Currently, it does require a modchip with a burned disc containing the homebrew inserted into a modified ISO, but if they can use the keys to sign channels obtained from the SD card, we won't.

This also means that they have likely managed to modify the disc file system, which will mean that dummy files and garbage data can finally be removed from ISOs.

Wow.. homebrew with Wii motion controls? **** yeah.
Does this mean we can "flash" it like we can do to 360's? A little confused.

It means that Johnny Chung Lee's head-tracking PC homebrew may materialize as Wii homebrew very soon and some homebrew games using it very soon (I'm so excited!).

i do agree but still i have kept out of the 360 ps3 arena as im happy with my ps2 with hard drive :D but now i do begin to feel the lure altho the wii is excellent and well who can imagine what will come next. Just the possibillities of Wii homebrew is endless and imagine what will be released in the next 6 months this is a very exciting time for the Wii scene.feels like when the psp was hacked for the 1st time :D

No PS3 games are 50GB that I know of (all fit on single-layer BDs), especially the multi-console releases. That said, most will fit on one of two DVDs. Sony designed the PS3 to only play from BR discs, so you either hack that requirement out or you simulate it from the HDD. If that is ever possible, all you need for storage is homebrew that will copy them to and from the HDD from your DVDs or over Ethernet/USB HDD (if they can't ever be executed directly from DVDs).

[Absorbent Llama]

Once we get backups on a wii driive, i am gettn a terabyte of storage.

dude take that stupid powerglove and stick it in your ass you were an idiot before and your an idiot now hopefully you try not to install the new bios chip with gorilla glue

[ichiro51zr]

dude take that stupid powerglove and stick it in your ass you were an idiot before and your an idiot now hopefully you try not to install the new bios chip with gorilla glue

i just got a good idea, a solderless Bios mod!!!! ill start making the chip now!!!

ALSO: Never doubt the power of gorilla glue!

[pneumat]

If im not wrong than this guys are the same who first demonstrate the Wii holes like changed DVD password from "Higher-Case" to "Lower-Case" :)

So it looks real for me and i belive we will have a interesting 2008 with the Wii;)

[icemasta]

I was wondering if anyone can upload the whole 800mb presentation since i cannot download it from the other link. Thanks.

[CZroe]

If im not wrong than this guys are the same who first demonstrate the Wii holes like changed DVD password from "Higher-Case" to "Lower-Case" :)

So it looks real for me and i belive we will have a interesting 2008 with the Wii;)

Yes, the guy at the end is TMBNC, but he was dead wrong about that backdoor password unlocking Wii backups last year, and the case-change was unintentional due to the functionality being removed.

[FoG]

This makes this topic (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=801946#post801946) sound legit

[pezjono]

This makes this topic (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=801946#post801946) sound legit

You do realize that on page 2 of the comments emu_kidid himself said "Yes this is total bullsh*t, that was not me on IRC!"

[ichiro51zr]

You do realize that on page 2 of the comments emu_kidid himself said "Yes this is total bullsh*t, that was not me on IRC!"

WTF r u guys talking about, this is legit, wait till sunday for the real hacking info and that emu_kid thing is just stupid

[mysticarcher]

about time!! i've been waiting since january for this and i've been holding off buying any chip till they get homebrew!!!! :D

and btw, this is LEGIT, not that emu_kidd crap!

[addmister]

^^^ as long as you say its legit that's good enough for me!

[panyan1991]

Well, yeah... I thought that was obvious...
One attaches to the DRIVE (Drive Chip)
One attaches to the BIOS (BIOS Chip)

BIOS Chip is gonna have a lot more wires too.

unless we get something amazing like xbmc (xbox media centre, or even wii media centre - wimc) then i will just stick with my cyclowiz


Once we get backups on a wii driive, i am gettn a terabyte of storage.

good thing i already have one ready for that moment:p

[panyan1991]

double post - delete

[wiidata.net]

That's the 24C3, one of the most important hacker conferences in the whole wide wold. They know what they're talkin bout, thats no joke.

If they dumped all the encryption keys, a firmware manipulation / BIOS chip istnt needed. They encryption keys are the same on all wiis (except for VC). You only need a DriveChip, having it, the wii can not dinstinguis a encrypted homebrewprogram from a encrpyted game backup.

[uberfry]

Doubtful on that,

The dreamcast was release with basically debug mode turned on, so if it didn't find the "sign" it would force run. Way to go Sega.

way to go, that's not true
your theory might sound fun, but is false

[WarOmnimon]

This just plain rocks! I'm looking forward to what homebrew developers are going to do with this hack.

[downlowfunk]

how did you pull that off? do you have one of those cpu modded xboxes?

No, I downloaded Curb your enthusiasim 720P DivX files they start out skipping during the intro then everything seems to work perfectly. Cheryl in 720P yummy.

[ichiro51zr]

Why cant the wii do 720p if the OG xbox could? i thought the wii was stronger.............

[downlowfunk]

Why cant the wii do 720p if the OG xbox could? i thought the wii was stronger.............

Well, I have not seen it do anything other than 480P. Maybe I am wrong, yet I think Nintendo would try to do higher resolution games if their machine could support it.

[ichiro51zr]

Well, I have not seen it do anything other than 480P. Maybe I am wrong, yet I think Nintendo would try to do higher resolution games if their machine could support it.

Yea N could activate 720p in a FW update, but then it would cost too much for devs to make games for the Wiii

[manias]

Why cant the wii do 720p if the OG xbox could? i thought the wii was stronger.............

xbox1 has its own upscaler, wii does not. the original xbox does NOT support games in 720p, only upscaled stuff, like XBMC.

[ichiro51zr]

So...back to the wii stuff, follow the same live feed that i posted before and on December 30th, only wii hacking presentations, I received word from a reliable source that

"A bootable Linux DVD is on the way, and we can't wait to see what homebrew coders manage to pull off with that Wiimote pointed where it belongs."

I cant wait :cool:

[Deeked]

This means that this experiment : RIGHT HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw) is going to be reprodutible on the wii without nintendo's approval

[slioslai]

What are the chance's of wii emulating windows xp or 98 and being able to have networking function?.

[jamsplodge]

I don't think the xp or 98 emulator is a realistic possibility, as far as I'm aware running Microsoft OS's on an Xbox requires the software to be running through an x86 emulator. The end result is something usually very very slow. So since the Wii is about as powerful as an Xbox (maybe less?) then I should think we'd get the same result. So why you'd wanna run a slow OS like Windows when you could run Linux at full speed, is beyond me.

Just saw that head tracking video for the first time. That would be awesome. I don't think it'll ever be officially implemented into Wii software, but homebrew games might be fun with it :)

[ichiro51zr]

This means that this experiment : RIGHT HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw) is going to be reprodutible on the wii without nintendo's approval

Yes all of johnny Lees programs will be able to work on the wii with this homebrew development, and i cant wait ;)

[pwntendo]

Wiinewz (http://www.wiinewz.com) has update information from xt5, one of the guys who helped with the original Wii disc dumping.


- They got the wii keys, and we could use them without hacking our wii again.
- This hack requires a drive modchip to execute the code.
- There is not any tool to sign the code, but it's coming soon.
- They are working to access to the SD thought EXI.
- There is not any stack homebrew for bluetooth
- A linux port for Wii will be released easily.

Looks like 2008 will be a very good year for the Wii. :D

[ichiro51zr]

...i hope a soft mod comes out of this, wiinewz said u still need a modchip but is there a chance of a soft mod developing?

My friends will pay me 50$ to mod their wiis so soft mods will be the eziest way4$

my modding ideas...
Here are the possibilities:
1) Create your own software that launches applications on the disc drive, SD card, USB drive or Wifi with SIGNED code. Burn it to a DVD and run the DVD on a drivechip modded Wii (which is what you're watching) or make a pressed disc (like HDLoader for the PS2).
2) Decrypt and modify the already dumped NAND Wii firmware and create your own custom firmware (like the PSP) that reads DVD-Rs, launches programs via SD or Wi-Fi Samba shares or USB Mass storage devices and allows you to modify the memory for code injection. Install this signed custom firmware by a pressed DVD, DVD-R (with a modded Wii) or via a DNS hack spoofing as a firmware update from a Nintendo server.

You can expect a pressed signed disc to come out from Asia, a few weeks after the keys are posted on the internet, that'll allowed you run unsigned applications (like .ELF on PS2 and .DOL on the GameCube) and you'll be able to pop that in and run whatever type of program you want on your UNMODDED Wii.

[gonepostl]

Somebody post a link to the full presentation. That was obviously only a section of it

[CZroe]

Why cant the wii do 720p if the OG xbox could? i thought the wii was stronger.............

The original XBOX had a superior GPU. The Wii has an overclocked version of the same-old Gamecube GPU (with this ARM CPU gatekeeper stuff inside). There are ZERO new features, and the same limitation from the GC remains.

Yea N could activate 720p in a FW update, but then it would cost too much for devs to make games for the Wiii

There are other limitations. Though it'd be totally possible to output a 720p image, it would use up all of the VRAM and there wouldn't be any left for 3D games.

xbox1 has its own upscaler, wii does not. the original xbox does NOT support games in 720p, only upscaled stuff, like XBMC.

What the hell are you talking about? There was no upscaler in the original XBOX. It absolutely did support 720p and 1080i games, there were just very few of them and most were static-image advernture games like Syberia.

...i hope a soft mod comes out of this, wiinewz said u still need a modchip but is there a chance of a soft mod developing?

My friends will pay me 50$ to mod their wiis so soft mods will be the eziest way4$

my modding ideas...
Here are the possibilities:
1) Create your own software that launches applications on the disc drive, SD card, USB drive or Wifi with SIGNED code. Burn it to a DVD and run the DVD on a drivechip modded Wii (which is what you're watching) or make a pressed disc (like HDLoader for the PS2).
2) Decrypt and modify the already dumped NAND Wii firmware and create your own custom firmware (like the PSP) that reads DVD-Rs, launches programs via SD or Wi-Fi Samba shares or USB Mass storage devices and allows you to modify the memory for code injection. Install this signed custom firmware by a pressed DVD, DVD-R (with a modded Wii) or via a DNS hack spoofing as a firmware update from a Nintendo server.

You can expect a pressed signed disc to come out from Asia, a few weeks after the keys are posted on the internet, that'll allowed you run unsigned applications (like .ELF on PS2 and .DOL on the GameCube) and you'll be able to pop that in and run whatever type of program you want on your UNMODDED Wii.

You are overthinking this. If you can sign and copy over a homebrew Wii channel; a drive chip, pressed loader disc, or BIOS hack may be totally uneeded. The Wii just LOVES updating its BIOS for every little thing anyway, so I hope we don't get an inelegant PSP-style custom firmware method, especially with the possibility of being detected and banned online.

Actually, this wouldn't be like the XBOX 360 bannings... I think I'd like to keep the guys capable of running cheats offline. Buy a second Wii for homebrew if you must.

[[Evol]]

now thats news !!!! :)

[CZroe]

;809359']now thats news !!!! :)

Yep! They finally have real news for once and yet MC called it "rumor!"

[downlowfunk]

The original XBOX had a superior GPU. The Wii has an overclocked version of the same-old Gamecube GPU (with this ARM CPU gatekeeper stuff inside). There are ZERO new features, and the same limitation from the GC remains.



There are other limitations. Though it'd be totally possible to output a 720p image, it would use up all of the VRAM and there wouldn't be any left for 3D games.



What the hell are you talking about? There was no upscaler in the original XBOX. It absolutely did support 720p and 1080i games, there were just very few of them and most were static-image advernture games like Syberia.




First Thank you, for elaborating on what I had previously typed in this thread. Ive worked enough XBOX's to know there specs, inside and out, hell I got 1080I MilkDrop running right now.

Second you bring up a valid point, a Homebrew channel could be detected immediatly, and have a Wii shut down if Nintendo felt like it. I love the online capabilities of my Wii, and would hate to lose out.

Decisions Decisions, I cannot spend more money on these useless toys that bring nothing but wasted money, and wasted time into my life, and others. We must top playing with toys and be adults, and do massive things.

[Gundalf]

First Thank you, for elaborating on what I had previously typed in this thread. Ive worked enough XBOX's to know there specs, inside and out, hell I got 1080I MilkDrop running right now.

Second you bring up a valid point, a Homebrew channel could be detected immediatly, and have a Wii shut down if Nintendo felt like it. I love the online capabilities of my Wii, and would hate to lose out.

Decisions Decisions, I cannot spend more money on these useless toys that bring nothing but wasted money, and wasted time into my life, and others. We must top playing with toys and be adults, and do massive things.

Makes no sense. Are you a Spamer or a Troll?

[cubenoob]

So now that the guys have the encryption/decrytion keys isnt it somehow impossible to release them to the public because nintendo would know who posted them and secondly making the hack instantly illegal because its nintendo property (the keys) or did I misunderstand something???

[CZroe]

So now that the guys have the encryption/decrytion keys isnt it somehow impossible to release them to the public because nintendo would know who posted them and secondly making the hack instantly illegal because its nintendo property (the keys) or did I misunderstand something???

The keys aren't copyrighted. Even if they were, most countries have exceptions to allow it for creating interoperable software (copying the Nintendo logo to boot Gameboy software for example). Even in the worst-case scenario, they explained enough about how they did it to get other hackers started on finding the keys themselves, so you'd never know if it was the original guys or not.

[spoogle]

So now that the guys have the encryption/decrytion keys isnt it somehow impossible to release them to the public because nintendo would know who posted them and secondly making the hack instantly illegal because its nintendo property (the keys) or did I misunderstand something???

Well it is easy to post anonymous info on the net but in this case I think it more likely they will not release the keys but instead fully document the method they used to derive them - thus allowing interested parties like modchip makers and homebrew communities to DIY.

[CZroe]

Well it is easy to post anonymous info on the net but in this case I think it more likely they will not release the keys but instead fully document the method they used to derive them - thus allowing interested parties like modchip makers and homebrew communities to DIY.

OR, allowing them to release it anyway and pretend that "it could have been anyone with that information." ;)

He stated in his TehSkeen interview that he was not going to release the keys, but that he would work on a loader program of some kind.

[xtreme1]

i jst came hear to ask about this and i see there is a whoke thread already ... so are we dealing with possible cracked firmwre soon to be by bootable cds or what?

[CZroe]

i jst came hear to ask about this and i see there is a whoke thread already ... so are we dealing with possible cracked firmwre soon to be by bootable cds or what?

No telling. The firmware protection has not been cracked and even once it is, it will be the least elegant (and most easily detected) way to do this. As it stands, it requires a mod chip to boot the homebrew, so it's already not going to "enable" booting burned discs. If a signed channel can be copied over from SD and executed without a pre-existing license file installed on the Wii, then there is hope. It will likely require a drive mod to install a Homebrew Channel with a signed license at which point the drive will be no longer needed. That means that you will be able to borrow a drive, or get it soft-modded for cheap from someone who has one.

[ichiro51zr]

No telling. The firmware protection has not been cracked and even once it is, it will be the least elegant (and most easily detected) way to do this. As it stands, it requires a mod chip to boot the homebrew, so it's already not going to "enable" booting burned discs. If a signed channel can be copied over from SD and executed without a pre-existing license file installed on the Wii, then there is hope. It will likely require a drive mod to install a Homebrew Channel with a signed license at which point the drive will be no longer needed. That means that you will be able to borrow a drive, or get it soft-modded for cheap from someone who has one.

or...with the disc structure that they figured out, datel could make a simple disc swap solution...

[CZroe]

or...with the disc structure that they figured out, datel could make a simple disc swap solution...

Now there's an idea! "Datel Wii DVD player: Includes FREE Games 'n' Music player [AKA homebrew launcher]!"

You'd have to swap discs to play the DVD, so swapping to launch homebrew shouldn't be a bigger hassle, especially homebrew that installs a community-made "DVD and Homebrew Playback" channel and doesn't need to swap anymore.

[d-nerd]

OH SCHIZNIT!!! Datel needs too!!!:eek:

[slioslai]

Do you think it could be possible to make a homebrew software HD dvd player for wii?. I think watching 1080i DVDs on wii would be awsome.

[manias]

Do you think it could be possible to make a homebrew software HD dvd player for wii?. I think watching 1080i DVDs on wii would be awsome.

please think. HOW is the wii suddenly going to output to 1080i? it cannot do this hardware-wise, let alone play movies at that resolution. (btw 720p is better than 1080i)

[slioslai]

Someone on this forum said wii can output an HD image but it would take up most of the vram and wouldn't leave enouph for games thus its impossible to enable a higher resolution in games.

I came to a conclusion that you might be able to play HD dvds at 720p/1080 with a dvd homebrew program.

Keep note wii can read DL-DVDS.

[CZroe]

Someone on this forum said wii can output an HD image but it would take up most of the vram and wouldn't leave enouph for games thus its impossible to enable a higher resolution in games.

I came to a conclusion that you might be able to play HD dvds at 720p/1080 with a dvd homebrew program.

Keep note wii can read DL-DVDS.

Yes, I was over-simplifying it. There are different types of video memory available for use in 3D games, so it's not a huge performance inhibitor, but there is a tiny framebuffer limitation of about 3MB that makes 3D games at 720p/1080i impossible.

If the Wii can display still images at 1080i/720p, DVD decoding is only limited by the CPU performance. Upscaling to those resolutions *might* be possible though, at that resolution, it'll take some very efficient programming. There is likely to be no, or very little, hardware decode assistance from the video hardware, unlike what a comparable PC has. However, the PowerPC is a damned-fine CPU for video work.