Microsoft allowed to ban Xbox 360 consoles which have fan modifications

[Zeus]

According to one source, it is perfectly fine for Microsoft to ban you if you have a fan mod on your Xbox 360. A user of '360patches' was reportedly told directly from MS reps that his fan modification on the Xbox 360 is in violation of the terms of agreement so therefore MS can legally ban users from live for that very reason. His 12v fan mod wouldn't too hard to detect as voltage metering is something which should be easily detectable though bios settings.


Quote from Microsoft Xbox Live TOS "The Service may only be accessed with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console or by logging into your account via Xbox.com.? If you are accessing the Service via an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, you agree that? you are using authorized software and hardware, and that your software and hardware have not been modified in any unauthorized way"

You may be thinking well why is he quoting this?? Well because Microsoft have started banning xbox 360's with modded cooling. So if you've done the 12v mod your in risk of being banned for it.... How do I know this?? Because a friend of mine just had a nice chat with Microsoft About why he was banned and they explained it was because he had non-stock/modded fans.

Yes Microsoft Seem's to be going ban bad, Merry Xmas to you to Microsoft.


News Source: <A href="http://360patches.com/forums/index.php" target="_blank">360patches</a>

[XxBigP123xX]

that's just, wow.

[pezjono]

I don't believe it...

[Ravenheart]

MS want their users to get RRoD, plain and simple.

[saleem]

might explain some of the unexplainable bans where the user modded the fans of a non hacked drive.

or its just bull to cover up blunders.

what next,i wander?
:eek:

[KainXS]

its like we don't even own our own consoles:eek:

at least we know why most of the bans have been happening now

[Gravitroid]

Oh gee MS, I'm so sorry for not wanting my console to redring AGAIN!

You won't fix your broken console, and you silence anybody who tries to fix it themselves. STOP BEING DICKS! Either stop the RROD from happening or STFU!

If I'm cheating by wanting my console not to overheat and fail terribly, then ****, call me a cheater, I'll be the one over in the corner with the only working 360!

[UCC]

congrats MS tats tells me why I am banned...

I'm sorry that you cant build a system for crap..

[faceless]

wow, if true, MS is getting *really* technical

while it's technically true that opening the console = voiding your warranty and voiding your contractual agreement for xbox live service

this is beyond lame, if true.

[JacKz5o]

M$ is full of fucking idiots.

[pezjono]

Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if you worked for Microsoft JacKz5o...

[hurtween]

Nice to know that MS will ban you for trying to keep your console alive.

[xllzerollx]

wow,
cant even joke about this
thats how sad i feel about 360 owners.....

[Trashcat]

Actually messing with power supply is a pretty good way to get rrod, if you want a fan mod so bad whats so hard to use external power for it? HD-DVD add-on for 360 has its own power supply for a reason.

[Midnightkilla91]

lol wow MS just wants to ban ppl for anything you try to make there console better or quieter lets ban um like wtf its like they play a game every week lets see how many people we can ban now not cool dudes not cool

[ammmmn]

wow,
cant even joke about this
thats how sad i feel about 360 owners.....

Why? Most of us enjoy GAMES on the 360. I never watched any movie/hddvd/bluray or any other crap. I just enjoyed shitload of gaming on the 360.

I had the ps3 and sold it just before the price drop was there. And I am super happy I did :D

[wiggim]

they want their moddable 360s back..
Lets all wrap towels around our 360s and send them back.. see what MS does then.

[squall3031]

Another reason to add for not getting XBOX 360 :P

[AlphaTrion]

what about light mods.. like those in a replacement case??

[kronikdaddy]

What about powering LED/Fans via USB? That wouldn't be to noticeable i would thing, It could be anything plugged in USB.

[majin]

OMFG!

and yet again Xb0tT3rZ got PwN3D by M1cR0$h@fT

[grd94533]

I'm not entirely sure since it's been a while, but when I bought my 12 month live card last year I read all the conditions and such from the card and I don't remember reading anything about getting banned if you modified your fans. But most importantly it's a bad move from Microsoft as this will certainly cause costumers to turn on them. At least if Sony did it you wouldn't have much to complain about since we don't pay for the service to begin with. My 12 months is almost up but I honestly don't think I will pay for anymore.

[jayque]

Microsoft figures because you open'd your console up to do a fan mod you also flashed your drive firmware to boot "backups" is the word going around.

If you ask me its just stupid , whats next.. banning because we dont use the ethernet cable that comes with the xbox 360 ?

[Melchior00]

M$ fail again.. Honestly, it can't be the same team that came with the Xbox 1.0 This box is so bullshitted. Good for them, at least they haves games for that mess..

[cory149]

And remember folks, this is the QUALITY MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE you get for $xx per year :rolleyes:

You know, I saw a judge judy the other day where a person sold some cell phones on ebay and only sent the picture... in my books, forking out the cash to get an xbox 360, then paying for a live subscription on top of that - THEN getting banned from a paid subscription somewhat sounds like the same type of scam to me. You pay for it, you know what it's supposed to look like, but you don't have it in any way shape or form so you can actually use it.

Anyone banned ever actually get a refund for the time they can't use the service? I mean, them saying "its not you that's banned but xx hardware that is" is still no excuse to not provide a means to use the service or a refund if they deem your hardware does not comply with their ToS.

[KainXS]

a real life or death situation were in now, the fans in the 360 suck ass so I put in a talismoon and some leds this explains why its banned, they're trying to force everyone to buy another god damn 360 or send it back to them and have to pay to get it repaired

this is still hard to beleive, but it makes things so clear

a simple fan mod gets you banned, this would mean that they are banning in many other areas too, such as led's, hdd mods, etc none of which have something to do with piracy, its basically come down to if you open your console, you are fucked.

this is all going to ****, when i heard ms would start possibly repairing banned consolesi felt great, but after this, :(:(:(

[DaddyLongLegs]

If I put in a Talismoon fan but didn't mess with the voltage or anything can I be banned? Is that messing with the voltage in anyway? I didn't do any soldering. Just changed fans.

[KainXS]

If I put in a Talismoon fan but didn't mess with the voltage or anything can I be banned? Is that messing with the voltage in anyway? I didn't do any soldering. Just changed fans.

it is 12V which is set to 5V, so you should be safe

I modded mine to 12V though:( explains why i got banned:( + the leds

so if you use the connectivity kit you can kiss your arse goodbye and if you used led's you might be banned.

anyone know how many volts led's usually use because it looks like were gonna have to rig the modded internal components to use usb power now

[XxBigP123xX]

man, imagine if sony had a decent online service for the psp? i wonder how many people would get banned:p

[KainXS]

man, imagine if sony had a decent online service for the psp? i wonder how many people would get banned:p

i wonder how many people have been banned by ms so far, i mean really man think about it for a sec

[XxBigP123xX]

i wonder how many people have been banned by ms so far, i mean really man think about it for a sec

im still in shock that im not banned. seems like the most grateful get banned:D a i would think at most 5-10,000 people have been, atleast 2000

[yusky03]

and i was thinking about getting some better fans for my 360. M$ and the 360 are one in the same a big steaming piece of crap. Now that i have a 360 i think i have the right to say IMO the ps3 is way better then the 360. The only thing it has going for it is games... for now.

[grapeape]

I dunno...I haven't felt the need to modify mine..I can understand why some would be pissed off I guess if I jacked around with my 360 I would be pissed of too...but I cant help but think that there is more to this story than some guy told somebody else something over the phone. Phone support isn't really the best place to get an authoritative answer on anything.

Im sure im going to flamed for this...but honestly how many people crack open their consoles and void their warranty just to put in some fans?? My guess is this is going to end up similar to the guy in teh forums that whines that he only "tried" modding and un-modded it and wont do it again.

[arnold101]

how much is bastard microsoft? incredibile this fan-ban :(

and yes the standard 360 fan's are a sh1t

[Frak-Frakistan]

yo i mean come on man, wtf is this shi t? you can't use a fan to prevent RROD, guess its true that RROD is inevitable

and you pay $$ for this service and ppl without modified firmwares who buy their $60 games and limited editions ripoffs..its just sad

Shift to PSN turds

[mystic54]

Why are people so surprised. This is a clear cut case of, you arn't supposed to be opening your case in the first place. So duh it will get you banned....

[hordak]

About 6 months ago I did the 12v fan mod to the existing fans (ran wire to motherboard). Not long after I got 3 red lights so I sent it back to M$, also with modded drive. They replaced all the insides of the case and sent it back to me, still not banned. :cool:

[Gold_wind]

They just want you to pay for the repairs, as that's their alternate source of money... :)

[funnybutrandom]

i dont see why people do these things to TRY and prevent the 3 red lights, i would have thought its obvious now that they cant be prevented, all you can do is make the life span of your 360 last longer.

[kpn]

i dont see why people do these things to TRY and prevent the 3 red lights, i would have thought its obvious now that they cant be prevented, all you can do is make the life span of your 360 last longer.

Its not necessarily to prevent 3 red lights just the talismoon fans look badass in the dark :D:D hope i dont get banned for my fan :(

[WTFudge]

Its not necessarily to prevent 3 red lights just the talismoon fans look badass in the dark :D:D hope i dont get banned for my fan :(

You shouldn't do , unless you're running them at 12v

[luciferangelus]

I'm one of the few here who thinks this is perfectly normal and logical.
no need to get pissy or whatever, you modified? you broke the agreement. simple.

its like we don't even own our own consoles:eek:

at least we know why most of the bans have been happening now

this is absolutely the point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner

you never did.
just as with games: you don't own the game, you just bought the right to play with it.
you never did, and never will.

if you don't like it, grab a bike, and go for a ride.

[XxPS2MANxX]

I'm one of the few here who thinks this is perfectly normal and logical.
no need to get pissy or whatever, you modified? you broke the agreement. simple.



this is absolutely the point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner

you never did.
just as with games: you don't own the game, you just bought the right to play with it.
you never did, and never will.

if you don't like it, grab a bike, and go for a ride.

you a retard, simple. Your comparing licence to a purchase. I'll give you an example.

I bought an apple. Did I buy the apple or the right to eat it? If its the right to eat it, then why did I just throw the apple at somthing and not get banned from existance? :p

[elko]

should this be true, it just more a reason not buy a xbox 360.
What a shame. :eek:

[cokemusic1]

I'm one of the few here who thinks this is perfectly normal and logical.
no need to get pissy or whatever, you modified? you broke the agreement. simple.



this is absolutely the point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner

you never did.
just as with games: you don't own the game, you just bought the right to play with it.
you never did, and never will.

if you don't like it, grab a bike, and go for a ride.

If I don't own the game that I buy with my own money , then based on your concept of Ownership I wouldn't be allowed to break it,sell it,modify it's contents without violating laws of somesort , your an idiot.

On topic : MS banning you for fixing a problem they created ? pitiful.

[funnybutrandom]

On topic : MS banning you for fixing a problem they created ? pitiful.

in a way ms are actually helping people, people getting banned for "trying" to get around the 3 red lights will realise that its not worth it and the best way to prevent the 3 red lights is to play it in short spaces of time and keep it venterlated, and possibly live in a land of liquid nitrogen

[MicroNut]

If this is true the least Microsoft could have done was issue a public warning.

This would give their paying customers a chance to reverse the fan mod before any bans occur.

The fan volt mod is much different than the DVD bios hack.

If M$ considers it a violation that threatens the Live service or whatever I understand...
otherwise I am not so sure...

[tralalawala]

you never did.
just as with games: you don't own the game, you just bought the right to play with it.
you never did, and never will.
If I pay money for something, I own it. if MS (or any other company )doesn't like that they can go "grab a bike and take a ride" (a long ride, off a very short pier).

if you don't like it, grab a bike, and go for a ride.
or stop being such a pathetic wanker who allows themselves to be walked all over, grow a spine and oppose a corporations ridiculous idea of ownership.

[mashti]

ok this morning i have cancelled my online xbox360 order with gamestation because i was certain i would get another old 203w model so i went down to one of their stores & spoke to the manager & he finally agreed to sell me a falcon 175w after i told him such & such store are selling the falcons now (i think they have instructions from microsoft to clear old stock first),so yes i have got the falcon in the end & lets hope the Fookin dvd drive is silent one as it was hyped up to be,this is the only reason why i'm getting rid of my september 2007 manufactured xbox360 because the noise is like hair dryer & i cant use it after 8pm.:mad:

btw while i was their not a single xbox360 was sold even at this low price (expect for mine) every one was buying the more expensive 40gb PS3 (all bought the bundles with games) even parents were buying their little kids PS3's.

[0 morgan 0]

If I pay money for something, I own it. if MS (or any other company )doesn't like that they can go "grab a bike and take a ride" (a long ride, off a very short pier).


or stop being such a pathetic wanker who allows themselves to be walked all over, grow a spine and oppose a corporations ridiculous idea of ownership.

Your obviously not old enough to understand contracts and agreements. IF you opened your console to modify the fan then you voided your warranty. If Microsoft can detect the increased voltage (which is going to put a strain on the power supply) then they have every right to ban you from using the service. If you are receiving RROD (and you want to fix it) send it fucking back for a replacement.

It's funny you tell people to stop being so pathetic. IF you had this problem you wouldn't be able to do jack **** about it... What would you do? Phone up Microsoft and tell them you voided the warranty by opening your console. Then you modified the default fan to a fan which draws more voltage and therefore is going to stress the system further. All to fix an RROD which if you hadn't voided your warranty could have been RMA'd at no cost. Way to go big man!

[NexusBurst]

Another my friend says dumb shi* post. I call BS on this post.
Opening the 360 to mod the drive or install infectus is bannable (not sure if infectus is detected like xbox 1)

Even if ms somehow could detect voltages :rolleyes: you just phone up and yell at them, a fan is not an illegal modification it may violate the warranty but they cannot legally ban you for it.
The same goes for led mods also don't forget the external coolers also suck voltage directly from the power supply slightly lowering the voltage the power supply receives.

[tralalawala]

Your obviously not old enough to understand contracts and agreements.
"you're not old enough" the perennial 'argument' of people without an argument.


IF you opened your console to modify the fan then you voided your warranty. If Microsoft can detect the increased voltage (which is going to put a strain on the power supply) then they have every right to ban you from using the service.
You seem to be mixing up a companies TOS and a consumers statutory right under law.


It's funny you tell people to stop being so pathetic. IF you had this problem you wouldn't be able to do jack **** about it... What would you do?
I'd contact the TS firstly, and see where that lead. Then I'd keep my options open, little man.

It is funny, so way to go indeed.

[Bon Scott]

geezzz! that's really awful, if it's true... but I don't doubt it is, anyway...
Most of x360 in my country have 12Vmod fan due the summer season and due the belief that the 3RL problem was caused for the console's heat. And now this...:(

[xTONE]

nevermind....

[wigsplitta]

Another my friend says dumb shi* post. I call BS on this post.
Opening the 360 to mod the drive or install infectus is bannable (not sure if infectus is detected like xbox 1)

Even if ms somehow could detect voltages :rolleyes: you just phone up and yell at them, a fan is not an illegal modification it may violate the warranty but they cannot legally ban you for it.
The same goes for led mods also don't forget the external coolers also suck voltage directly from the power supply slightly lowering the voltage the power supply receives.

Yeah, I call major BS on this post. Anything you plug in can make the systems voltage vary. This includes any external fans that are plugged in such as the Nyko that pulls right off of the power supply. As with any system the voltage always varies. You get spikes during intense gameplay. It is never consistent and cannot be monitored. If you believe this sh1t story you are 100% certified dumbass. However, if you open your case and remove the sticker you have voided your warranty and MS can ban people for any reason. It's in the terms and conditions. Again, there is no way for them to detect fans.

[Xenogears V]

Simple cooling fan, want to say less probability on RROD.

A lot of 360 console are "modified". (Ban is a example).

No more RROD no twice console bought.

[Y2Bogus]

When you purchase the console, you can do whatever you want to it. Fans, hacked drives, jet engine, etc.

However, MS has every right to decide who to allow onto their network. They purchased and set up the infastructure, they paid for the servers, they paid for the it people to keep them running.

It's their network, not yours. When you sign up for LIVE, you are given a list of rules that you must adhere to in order to use their service. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't follow the rules of the service don't come bitching to the internet because you got tossed.

[mannyman789]

M$j just wants some money lol
i betcha next, if you play an XVID AVI Movie that you downloaded from somewhere on the net, you'll get the boot! LOL:D

[KainXS]

Yeah, I call major BS on this post. Anything you plug in can make the systems voltage vary. This includes any external fans that are plugged in such as the Nyko that pulls right off of the power supply. As with any system the voltage always varies. You get spikes during intense gameplay. It is never consistent and cannot be monitored. If you believe this sh1t story you are 100% certified dumbass. However, if you open your case and remove the sticker you have voided your warranty and MS can ban people for any reason. It's in the terms and conditions. Again, there is no way for them to detect fans.

No, its actually very easy to detect, go into your pc's bios and look at the fan settings and you will see the rpm, voltage, etc, the 360 does the same thing

so fan = ban

When you purchase the console, you can do whatever you want to it. Fans, hacked drives, jet engine, etc.

However, MS has every right to decide who to allow onto their network. They purchased and set up the infastructure, they paid for the servers, they paid for the it people to keep them running.

It's their network, not yours. When you sign up for LIVE, you are given a list of rules that you must adhere to in order to use their service. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't follow the rules of the service don't come bitching to the internet because you got tossed.

Were going to have to start using usb and dc power instead, if its TRUE then it could mean that MS wants people to brick and buy

[Blazeking]

No, its actually very easy to detect, go into your pc's bios and look at the fan settings and you will see the rpm, voltage, etc, the 360 does the same thing


I'm glad my Dell Doesn't have that in the bios.
But yeah, this does look like a retail selling strategy. RROD and "bans for fans and LEDS which have nothing to do with piracy or affect live gameplay other than not rrod'ing while you're online" are just ploys to double numbers for the holidays beacause loyalists to XBOX360 will just go out and buy another one; adding to their numbers of "sold 360's". And that's how it's happening. They can't hide their tactics for ****.

[KainXS]

I don't beleive what Im hearing from this ref on the phone:eek::eek::eek:

EDIT

im gonna call again to make sure

[sooki2kx]

so if this is true.... it's prolly because of modding the power to 12v? Otherwise if you left the fans in the original state, even the talismoon fans, then you are ok....

still a ridiculous reason for a ban...

[dennis872007]

Microsoft figures because you open'd your console up to do a fan mod you also flashed your drive firmware to boot "backups" is the word going around.

If you ask me its just stupid , whats next.. banning because we dont use the ethernet cable that comes with the xbox 360 ?

probably or being banned for not using a router compatible with live

I'm glad my Dell Doesn't have that in the bios.
But yeah, this does look like a retail selling strategy. RROD and "bans for fans and LEDS which have nothing to do with piracy or affect live gameplay other than not rrod'ing while you're online" are just ploys to double numbers for the holidays beacause loyalists to XBOX360 will just go out and buy another one; adding to their numbers of "sold 360's". And that's how it's happening. They can't hide their tactics for ****.

yep, there are many stupid people in here like that. they defend microsoft like it was their mother and when someone tells them that the 360 does rrod on alot of people all they say is I call bs. On xbox.com all i see is people saying is my 360 rrod so i will get a backup. that is how 360 is selling so much.

[nhydro]

what about the talismoon fan? and the chamilon case?(soz for spell im not good at it lol)

[skweezer]

this is ridiculas :mad:
frst M$ sell you a faulty console then you use your brain to fix it so M$ ban you.
typical M$ :mad:

[GazP]

Maybe the voltage drop monitoring was built in to combat mod chips? It's a poor situation when you can't add a fan to stop your system from giving up the ghost. Sadly, every console that gets banned now only have had a fan added to the system, not the drive flashed. Considering the known faults of RROD maybe MS should have turned a blind eye to this mod, as people will now remove the fans, and MS should expect more faulty consoles to head their way.

Very poor PR from MS indeed, as it will surely bring the whole RROD back into the news yet again.

[XxBigP123xX]

M$ banned me

[nhydro]

i think they might of banned me and i aint even done it lol


i just read this off 360mods

i just called up xbox customer support and they said they are having problems w/ the network right now.

[wigsplitta]

No, its actually very easy to detect, go into your pc's bios and look at the fan settings and you will see the rpm, voltage, etc, the 360 does the same thing

so fan = ban





That has nothing to do with an add on fan. I'm aware that you can see fan RPM and all of that from the bios. However, the fan has to be plugged into a specific place. So, these add on fans actually plug onto the 360 motherboard? If so then yeah they could possibly detect it and it goes back to my last post and the fact that they can ban for any reason. Well, that kinda sucks if they are doing that.

[KainXS]

I called them and emailed them and got almost the same thing 3 times



It is illegal to install a modification in your Xbox 360 console. If you install a mod chip or “soft-mod”, you void your warranty. Additionally, we do not allow any player who uses a console that has a modification installed to use the Xbox Live service. This includes the use of add-on fans, Led's, and the Nyko Intercooler EX. It is very easy for Microsoft to see that you had/have these console modifications, this is the reason you were banned. If you purchase another Xbox 360 in the future do not modify it in ANY way or you will be banned again.



I removed the support number

I still don't know how they can detect the Nyko Intercooler EX but all 3 reps said that they can and that that will get you banned, but how, I have no idea, maybe they were just lying, the same goes for led's

When I get my elite back from repairs,(its on its way) i think I will sell it on ebay while its not banned.

[dwrecording]

This post is just a fan boys way to get people all pissed at MS there is no facts at all that support it.
:rolleyes:

stick to sony forums where all your bad post get deleted, so all is happy in sonyland. :cool:

[KainXS]

This post is just a fan boys way to get people all pissed at MS there is no facts at all that support it.
:rolleyes:

stick to sony forums where all your bad post get deleted, so all is happy in sonyland. :cool:

if your not going to say anything benifitial to helping us figure out whats going on then shut the f**k up

[dwrecording]

if your not going to say anything benifitial to helping us figure out whats going on then shut the f**k up


What do you mean? If you break the seal that voids warrenty. Then MS has the right to ban you. And they would have no idea if you put a new fan in. The only way would be if the bios is checking how many amps the fan is running. Witch i know thay are not doing. This post if just one more im pissed at MS.


PS you FKOFF :cool:

[dgknight500]

Wow, this is low, even for M$...

[mercurius]

Uhm I don't think you can detect the additional fans.
Here is the reason.

Such Fans may use something like 1-2W... thats really not much to have an impact on the power supply. So the voltage is NOT gonna drop. The power supply should be able to support a few more W ... those 1-2W are in the tolerance I think.

So as long you are soldering the Fans to a part which can supply enough ampere and 12V for a few W, there should be no problem.

The voltage is only dropping if you have stuff which really uses that much power that the power supply can't support any more (like having a High End SLI System with a 300W power supply ... the voltage won't be stable anymore and the computer will fail to run properly).

[grapeape]

I called them and emailed them and got almost the same thing 3 times



It is illegal to install a modification in your Xbox 360 console. If you install a mod chip or “soft-mod”, you void your warranty. Additionally, we do not allow any player who uses a console that has a modification installed to use the Xbox Live service. This includes the use of add-on fans, Led's, and the Nyko Intercooler EX. It is very easy for Microsoft to see that you had/have these console modifications, this is the reason you were banned. If you purchase another Xbox 360 in the future do not modify it in ANY way or you will be banned again.


I removed the support number

I still don't know how they can detect the Nyko Intercooler EX but all 3 reps said that they can and that that will get you banned, but how, I have no idea, maybe they were just lying, the same goes for led's

When I get my elite back from repairs,(its on its way) i think I will sell it on ebay while its not banned.

Im going to call bullshit on this one...first off the Nyko Intercooler EX is an external device not internal however im sure if you worded it vaguely enough for a MS phone monkey to hear the word Mod...look up mod in their handy dandy phone support notebook and read whatever it says. Why folks think that $7 an hour call center employees that arent even actual MS employees are the ultimate authority is beyond me....

[sooki2kx]

Purchase your Nyko Intercooler today! Use at your own risk. You may be banned from Xbox Live when used. Stupid MS

[cyberpyrot]

Just use the internal USB ports for power as those cannot be monitored since USB can be daisy chained and can have a variable of voltages.. Also MS has no idea wether you have a controller connected or an ipod or any of a million diffrent USB devices.

[onyxx]

hasn't this already been a known reason for people getting banned?

[The_Doctor]

hasn't this already been a known reason for people getting banned?

look at the date of the original post.

[onyxx]

look at the date of the original post.

damn it I hate it when people revive old threads

[cyberpyrot]

damn it I hate it when people revive old threads

Sorry was only revived due to it being linked on Acidmods.com

[Scorpion3]

I don't believe it...

Yeah, I call BS on this. I have an entirely modded Case and Cooling and never been banned. This "A friend of a friend" type stuff sounds like a hoax to me.

[sinbolico]

Yeah, I call BS on this. I have an entirely modded Case and Cooling and never been banned. This "A friend of a friend" type stuff sounds like a hoax to me.


I just got off the phone with a M$ representative and they said that if you are reading this you will be band from Live.

Nah, for real i think scorpion is right...this has to be B.S. Can anyone actually confirm that they have been banned for using whisper fan or LED mod? ( no friend of a friend)

Ps- I'm going to email M$ with a youtube link dedicating them Chef's salty chocolate balls from south park ...

[darkshadow4455]

**** ms i did the fan mod to my 360. if ms doesnt like it ban me i really dont give a ****. not about to spend 300 dollars and let my **** kick the bucket

[evorodz]

so if this is true.... it's prolly because of modding the power to 12v? Otherwise if you left the fans in the original state, even the talismoon fans, then you are ok....

still a ridiculous reason for a ban...

[1ic1]

thats a lie i had the fan mod for my 2006 model and i never got banned it was like a vacuum too :rolleyes: