supercard sucks

[Hectic]

with all these supercard threads up here, i thought i'd go ahead and give the m3 a plug.

[starteck2002]

And your point is? At least give your reason and a comparison so the rest of us can argue a case.

[akuma99]

True, Maybe the reason they are are so many supercard threads is because people like it better then the m3. I know I do and I have tried both.

[NightL1fe]

True, Maybe the reason they are are so many supercard threads is because people like it better then the m3. I know I do and I have tried both.

WTF? i thought the M3 comes out on the 20th?! could you hook me up your time machine so i can go to the future and try out the M3 also?!

[Hectic]

i doubt he's tried both as well. and everyone knows why the supercard sucks. i will say that it's surprising that it has such a good compatibility rate with current ds games, but as far as gba, it's a major pain. the games that have slowdown and problems are all of the good games no less. supercard is borderline functional. i wouldn't want to order a supercard (not that i would) and wonder whether or not it's going to work in my ds.. i was excited when i found out about the supercard months ago, but after reading about it's problems, i sadly decided to keep waiting for a better upgrade to my 128mb fa turbo. it's been a long wait but hopefully the m3 is everything it is advertised to be and i can finally get around to using my ds. (fa turbo crashes on the ds)

[starteck2002]

But right now we have the Supercard, it is working well on the DS, there is a new firmware about to be released and the compatibility is very good considering it's on it's 1st Bios release.

As a DS card it is very good, for GBA maybe not so (i can't comment as I have never used the Supercard for GBA games) - but then I have my GBA SP with EFA512 for that :-)

Until all the contenders have released their products onto the market I don't think that anyone can knock the Supercard and say that it's a bad product when we don't have anything else to compare it against.

[akuma99]

You know it isn't too hard to be a beta tester for these things. Did you ever think of that maybe that's where I got my time machine. I didn't lie I have no reasen to decive people I just gave my opinion. You should try it when it is released and judge for yourself.

[NightL1fe]

Right Mr 8 post with no affiliation to no group or website that will do a full detail review on thier product.. So if you have so called Beta Test these products... where the **** is the picture documented review on the products? why the hell would they send it to a nobody to beta test when they can send it to respected websites and entitys on the scene to beta test and post full documented reviews?

Sorry for the original poster of this thread, but dipshits like this piss me off.. I'm fuken sure if I was sent a M3 and SuperCard for free to beta test, i would at least write a full review without pictures if i didnt have a camera?!

Ya hes a beta tester and tested both products..... until it woke up and found out he wet his pants LOL

P.S - also i never knew beta testers had to buy products from resellers?! LOL
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=81999#post81999

You know it isn't too hard to be a beta tester for these things. Did you ever think of that maybe that's where I got my time machine. I didn't lie I have no reasen to decive people I just gave my opinion. You should try it when it is released and judge for yourself.
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Hectic - ya the same way i felt when the supercard was annouced a few months back! then all the claims of GBA problems so i'm also holding off to the
M3... i'm also worried about the supercard save system.. i'm reading the M3 is far much better .. we'll see on the 20th.. or hopefully one of the scene resepected sites will have a full documented review for us in a few days... real beta testers..

[akuma99]

I wasen't allowed to write a review for a website. All I was supposed to do was try the thing out and put it through it's paces and I did if I had posted pictures (I do own a camera) then it would have been in violation of my agreement with them and they would have got me good. As for why would they send it to a nobody, you don't even know my name or anything about me so why do you suspect I am a nobody. Also I did not bete test the supercard just the M3 and I had to send it back when I was done so it wasn't free to keep.

[starteck2002]

Why is it that near enough every topic in here has to stray off to the '***** slapping'? So what if this forum is dominated by Supercard talk - i'm sure that will all change when we see some more carts on the market.

[akuma99]

Why is it that near enough every topic in here has to stray off to the '***** slapping'? So what if this forum is dominated by Supercard talk - i'm sure that will all change when we see some more carts on the market.

I never set out to cause such a stir all I was doing was reporting my opinion on a product. Then I was called a lier so I naturally defended myself. I would never result to name calling. I agree that there will be better carts come along as more is discovered about the DS that's what's so great about compitition it promotes the creation of better products in the end.

[dreary79]

Everyone that I know that got an M3 got a prerelease without updated firmware. The new firmware is promised to play clean dumbs, if it does... then I will agree that supercard sucks compared to the M3. I guess we will have to wait and see.

[starteck2002]

I agree too.... i don't think the Supercard sucks, I just think it's doing a pretty good job right now - are the others? If the new firmware from Romman does as he says then Supercard owners will be laughing :-)

[Z80]

Also the SuperCard has the advantage as it's proven. Newer products (Magic Key 2/3) are unproven, and they aren't communicating with anyone. There's alot of important details we know about SuperCard, but don't know about MK2/MK3. Such as playing clean dumps (even if you do patch them automatically before playing them.) SuperCard seems to be a good product with its drawbacks, but it is by no means a bad product.

And something lots of people like is when someone involved in the product's development communicates with the public and seems active. It's the only one I've seen where you actually hear more than a vague release date with foggy details.

[dreary79]

I guess the biggest drawback of the supercard is that some 512 games don't run.. whats going to happen when 1024 games come out? GBAlpha has said that the M3 should be able to support games of that size.

On paper... supercard does not compare to its competitors. In reality we have no idea.

[starteck2002]

...on paper Supercard never will compare well with the competion, however, the reality isn't actually here yet. Add to that the continual changing specs of the competitors.

It's also worth remembering that the SuperCard was never actually meant to be a DS cart. Romman assures us that the saves and 512Mb issue has been resolved. Nobody knows anout the 1024 stuff yet.

[goldnerayx]

Well since some people seem to have tested the m3, does anyone know how much time it takes for the m3 to load a 512 megabit game, 1 to 2 minutes on the supercard is a major drawback to me

[starteck2002]

I've just timed a 512Mb image loading on a SuperCard SD, it took 1:32s

I can live with that.

[GamerzInc]

Guess I'll wait till the m3, and will get it only if the times are faster. Over 1min is just too long for 512mb especially if you put on multiple roms of that size.

[Social-Zero]

I wasen't allowed to write a review for a website. All I was supposed to do was try the thing out and put it through it's paces and I did if I had posted pictures (I do own a camera) then it would have been in violation of my agreement with them and they would have got me good. As for why would they send it to a nobody, you don't even know my name or anything about me so why do you suspect I am a nobody. Also I did not bete test the supercard just the M3 and I had to send it back when I was done so it wasn't free to keep.


they didn't mind me taking pictures of the G6Flash before it's release, so why would they mind if u took pics of the m3 ? and send it back? I don't think I have to send back my G6 Flash... They didn't say ANYTHING about that. And I mail on daily bases providing feedback and requesting things.

We are talking about the same guys though...

And you can't possibly be done testing it, because they still are finishing up the software for CLEAN boot dumping so I think someon's lying...

[Social-Zero]

I've just timed a 512Mb image loading on a SuperCard SD, it took 1:32s

I can live with that.

BTW , I did the same on my G6 flash with a DoFat edition, it took 1 second to boot :D

[akuma99]

they didn't mind me taking pictures of the G6Flash before it's release, so why would they mind if u took pics of the m3 ? and send it back? I don't think I have to send back my G6 Flash... They didn't say ANYTHING about that. And I mail on daily bases providing feedback and requesting things.

We are talking about the same guys though...

And you can't possibly be done testing it, because they still are finishing up the software for CLEAN boot dumping so I think someon's lying...

Well that's fine that you think I am lying doesn't really matter to me I was just giving my opinion on something that I tried. I just followed the rules that they gave me so yours were different and thats fine. I am not going to call you a lier because I have no proof either way. I didn't start out intending to defend myself I just wanted to give my opinion on the product.

[cory149]

Some of you really dont get this point: DS games are more like disk based games than like cart based games.

DS games are not like GBA games, the data is not mapped to limited (256kbit) memory addresses, although using a gba card as an interface to a rewriteable media for DS games of any size should work very well (M3, MK2/3 and SC all included) if done right.

Games that are over 256mbit and possibly even those below will likely use the SC RAM as cache, if at all, in future SC DS updates - instead of loading the ROM there - this means starting up in no longer than 256mbit copy time as that is the max memory SC has, but likely much less as you need only copy 4MByte maximum of data to completely fill the DS working memory, ie: next to no copy time if its loaded direct from the SD/CF as has been suggested by Romman recently...

It means: when loading direct from SD/CF (like M3/SC) in-game there may be occasionally longer "loading, please wait" screens, just like if you used a PC game with a bit slower disk drive. (ie: SC loads to its RAM memory from SD at approx 1.5MByte/s, with potential peak spead of 8Mbyte/s, GBA slot transfers up to 12MByte/s to DS/GBA, and the fastest that a commercial DS card can serially transfer data is 3MBytes/s as it was designed that way by Big N).

IMHO, anything that M3/G6 is claiming to be able to do is possible on any GBA cart, including SuperCard, with the right software and know how. M3/G6 were not designed for the DS (if they were they would go in the DS slot and not require a subversion device like a passkey... DUH!) - they were designed to take advantage through subversion of the DS's expansion pak slot, which is what the GBA slot is called in DS mode.

edit:/ one more final thing, a 1Gbit game has already hit store shelves (some form of jpn murder mystery game), and for those of you considering a G6 - keep in mind the largest that Nintendo planned for on the DS slot games is 4GBit - and I bet there will be more than a few that use all that space and push the DS hardware to its limits. Apparently the current rom dumpers cannot do 1Gbit games, if I understand my italian correctly.

[Hectic]

ok so tell us mr beta tester. why do you perfer the supercard over the m3?

[starteck2002]

Nice post Cory149 - made interesting reading :)

[Social-Zero]

of course they will be able to dump games from 1GB and more, it'll just take some time

[SigmaX6]

honestly im just gonan wait for teh firwmare that fixes the save issues and ill be set, im not in rush to load a game if youve ever played a psp,psx(excluding the streamed games) you'll know what im talking about