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BNary
11-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Ignoring the price.

Thanks :)

Snownation
11-08-2007, 07:13 PM
Wiikey seems like the way to go

BNary
11-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Wiikey seems like the way to go

Thanks, I've heard that Wiikey is not 100% stealth, is it true?
Because when I was updating the Wii it said that modifying it can brick it :S

darkdarkiller
11-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Is there a reason why some website sells the wiikey for under $20 while others sell for $40? when both are listed as official resellers on wiikey.cn?
Do the different versions of the wiikey offer different functionalities? (I heard the latest is V4) Thanks...

drquack02
11-08-2007, 10:10 PM
I think the most popular chip at the moment is the cyclowiz.

I'm very happy with mine.

manias
11-09-2007, 02:29 AM
I think the most popular chip at the moment is the cyclowiz.

I'm very happy with mine.

Actually I think most ppl have a wiikey or a clone of it..
Both cyclo and wiikey work perfectly, but be wary of clones

BNary
11-09-2007, 09:12 AM
Thanks, I'll probably buy WiiKey. It's about 100$ here in Israel! :mad: (including installation)


BTW, what about clones (like WiiCan)?

BlackDove
11-09-2007, 09:38 AM
The wiikey is the most 'popular' one but the Cyclowiz is the professional choice.

manias
11-09-2007, 10:31 AM
Thanks, I'll probably buy WiiKey. It's about 100$ here in Israel! :mad: (including installation)


BTW, what about clones (like WiiCan)?

some clones cannot be updated

BNary
11-09-2007, 11:56 AM
The wiikey is the most 'popular' one but the Cyclowiz is the professional choice.

why? what's better on the Cyclowiz?
another question - in which modchips does SMG work?

sorry for the lot of questions, thanks :p

manias
11-09-2007, 12:21 PM
why? what's better on the Cyclowiz?
another question - in which modchips does SMG work?

sorry for the lot of questions, thanks :p

there's no difference between the two, and both can play SMG.
They are equal.

BNary
11-10-2007, 05:33 AM
there's no difference between the two, and both can play SMG.
They are equal.

ok, I'll check what is cheaper.
thanks

stancartman
11-10-2007, 08:06 AM
get a wiikey from the manufacturer for $8.00

http://www.wiikey.com.cn/product_detail.asp?pid=21

manias
11-10-2007, 08:58 AM
get a wiikey from the manufacturer for $8.00

http://www.wiikey.com.cn/product_detail.asp?pid=21

that is NOT the manufacturer as far as I know.
http://www.wiikey.cn/ is the manufacturer, and you cannot order from that site. .com.cn seems VERY fishy to me! A wiikey costs about 20 dollars not 8, a CLONE costs 8.

Only trust this site:
http://www.wiikey.cn/resellers.html

billysastard
11-10-2007, 09:25 AM
why? what's better on the Cyclowiz?
another question - in which modchips does SMG work?

sorry for the lot of questions, thanks :p

cyclowiz gets updates faster it could play smg the day after it came out, the wiikey took a few days before it was working.

smg works in d2ckey, cyclowiz and wiikey original, beyond that its hit and miss

:cool:

manias
11-10-2007, 09:40 AM
cyclowiz gets updates faster it could play smg the day after it came out, the wiikey took a few days before it was working.

smg works in d2ckey, cyclowiz and wiikey original, beyond that its hit and miss

:cool:

the cyclowiz update was already almost finished, they didnt crack it faster than wiikey ppl, was more of an accident.
Anyway, it doesn't matter which of the two you buy, and if you have d2c chipset -> d2ckey

stancartman
11-11-2007, 03:53 AM
that is NOT the manufacturer as far as I know.
http://www.wiikey.cn/ is the manufacturer, and you cannot order from that site. .com.cn seems VERY fishy to me! A wiikey costs about 20 dollars not 8, a CLONE costs 8.

Only trust this site:
http://www.wiikey.cn/resellers.html

they are originals, i've got 10 of them here, well 9 left because i've used 1 and you don't have to flash it, which means it's original. you can buy the holograms for $2 extra

http://www.wiikey.com.cn/product_detail.asp?pid=34

manias
11-11-2007, 06:04 AM
they are originals, i've got 10 of them here, well 9 left because i've used 1 and you don't have to flash it, which means it's original. you can buy the holograms for $2 extra

http://www.wiikey.com.cn/product_detail.asp?pid=34

the fact that you " can buy the hologram" really doesn't say to me original :P Probably an updatable clone. That website is not on the official list

stancartman
11-11-2007, 10:28 AM
the fact that you " can buy the hologram" really doesn't say to me original :P Probably an updatable clone. That website is not on the official list

the fact that you don't flash them and also has the correct resistor on the chip and is from the offical website proves it's original. why would they put themselves on the resellers list?

idunder
11-11-2007, 10:36 AM
the cyclowiz update was already almost finished, they didnt crack it faster than wiikey ppl, was more of an accident.
Anyway, it doesn't matter which of the two you buy, and if you have d2c chipset -> d2ckey

The above post is spreading more misinformation, and does not help people in making a proper decision.

Here is a direct link to the Team Cyclops website from the TeamCyclops staff, they fixed issue on purpose, not on accident.

http://www.teamcyclops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2925

The Cyclowiz has always been the more supported chip out of the two.

The first Wiikey update took over half a year from when the chip was released. First Cyclowiz update took 30 days from when the chip was released.

There is also supposedly a bug with the update that wiikey released to address the SMG fix. All drives read at 3x instead of 6x after the update.

Good luck getting future updates with the wiikey.

The Cyclowiz team has shown time and time again they are going to support the cyclowiz. Team wiikey has not, they don't even have their own coders for their chip. It's simple to see the reasons to avoid the wiikey.

Get a wiinja if you don't want a Cyclowiz.

manias
11-11-2007, 12:11 PM
The above post is spreading more misinformation, and does not help people in making a proper decision.

Here is a direct link to the Team Cyclops website from the TeamCyclops staff, they fixed issue on purpose, not on accident.

http://www.teamcyclops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2925

The Cyclowiz has always been the more supported chip out of the two.

The first Wiikey update took over half a year from when the chip was released. First Cyclowiz update took 30 days from when the chip was released.

There is also supposedly a bug with the update that wiikey released to address the SMG fix. All drives read at 3x instead of 6x after the update.

Good luck getting future updates with the wiikey.

The Cyclowiz team has shown time and time again they are going to support the cyclowiz. Team wiikey has not, they don't even have their own coders for their chip. It's simple to see the reasons to avoid the wiikey.

Get a wiinja if you don't want a Cyclowiz.

Ah well so they did release it fast to fix mario, my point was that yeah, they do update cyclowiz more and faster. But right now, they are equal. And the last wiikey update, from a new team, was fast enough. So it's no biggy, do whatever you want and what's easiest to get.

But apparently I'm " spreading misinformation " so guess yer gonna have to get help elsewhere.. *yawn*

manias
11-11-2007, 12:12 PM
the fact that you don't flash them and also has the correct resistor on the chip and is from the offical website proves it's original. why would they put themselves on the resellers list?

why wouldn't they on their cn site? doesn't make sense to me. (you can't order directly from the .cn site like the .com.cn and there is no link between the two on there that's why i'm suspicious)
But if it works and updates, doesn't matter anyway

Anyway think whatever you want, these were my two cents.

idunder
11-11-2007, 01:47 PM
But apparently I'm " spreading misinformation " so guess yer gonna have to get help elsewhere.. *yawn*

Yeah you sure are spreading FALSE information.

This is a partial direct quote from you:

the cyclowiz update was already almost finished, they didnt crack it faster than wiikey ppl, was more of an accident.


When you claim Team Cyclops "accidentally" fixed it, that is a wrong.

You don't help people by spreading incorrect info.

bigfoothunt1
11-11-2007, 02:11 PM
Yeah you sure are spreading FALSE information.

This is a partial direct quote from you:



When you claim Team Cyclops "accidentally" fixed it, that is a wrong.

You don't help people by spreading incorrect info.

In this case Manias is absolutely correct. It is you that is speaking out your ass.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

idunder
11-11-2007, 02:24 PM
In this case Manias is absolutely correct. It is you that is speaking out your ass.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Point out how he is correct or STFU moron.

I already posted a direct link to Team Cyclops support forum where they comment on these rumors that are being falsely spread.

http://www.teamcyclops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2925

Since you obviously did not take the time to read the link, here is the text.

FROM Team Cyclops:

"Considering the amount of work put into 3.6, it's insulting to say the least. First of all, we never made any comment to anybody about this upgrade, so everything you read about it is just speculation, invention, or manipulation. Of course, 3.6 BETA upgrade was specially designed for SMG. If there's "luck" involved, we're "lucky" to be the only team with a drive code that has been designed to be future-proof since day one, and we're probably even more lucky to be the only team that has a real clue of what's going on."

metalclay
11-11-2007, 02:33 PM
lol...

.com.cn? that's totally a fake site. you buy from there, you're an idiot and deserve to get the clone for being one.

as for which is the "best" though they all for right now do about the same, I would go with cyclowiz. the led to let you know all is ok is awesome, the pc flasher is great, the hardware disable might come in handy soon :D, the third party firmware support is very handy as well and of course, the audio-fix for gcn is just pure pwnage.

also...i've noticed more tuts and more support behind cyclowiz than wiikey. so...i would go with cyclowiz.

what really sold me on cyclowiz was the pc flash and the audio-fix though.

manias
11-11-2007, 02:34 PM
Point out how he is correct or STFU moron.

I already posted a direct link to Team Cyclops support forum where they comment on these rumors that are being falsely spread.

http://www.teamcyclops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2925

Relax. That post actually doesn't say how they found the fix, when they found it, and what they were doing when they found it. Let it go, it does not matter. They found it fast, they are very good at updates, that was not something up for discussion anyway. Wiikey + cyclowiz are both great, cyclowiz is better at upgrades, but right now they both do the same thing. Future copy protection issues might be solved sooner by cyclowiz, but will also be by wiikey. The end.

idunder
11-11-2007, 02:44 PM
Relax. That post actually doesn't say how they found the fix, when they found it, and what they were doing when they found it. Let it go, it does not matter. They found it fast, they are very good at updates, that was not something up for discussion anyway. Wiikey + cyclowiz are both great, cyclowiz is better at upgrades, but right now they both do the same thing. Future copy protection issues might be solved sooner by cyclowiz, but will also be by wiikey. The end.

The point was in reply to you saying they fixed it by accident.

Tell me exactly HOW the wiikey is "great"

A guy comes here looking to find out which is the better commercial modchip to put in his Wii.

Let the guy take the real info and decide for himself. Or actually post some real factual info instead of making it up. Like by saying Cyclowiz was lucky in making their update.

Team Wiikey released their first update over 6 months from the chips depute.
They do not have an on staff programmer. All development and updates for this chip are outsourced to 3rd parties. There was NEVER an offical update to the wiikey, it came about because of a "leak" and even then the Wiikey team did not realease an official version. They let the leaked version be the update. Their update to fix SMG introduced further bugs.

Team Cyclops released their first update 30 days after the chips depute. They have their own developers working on updates to their chip and actually have an active message board where they SUPPORT their chip and other products. They had an update very quickly after it was determined that there were issues with SMG.

The wiikey is the least supported chip out there between Cyclowiz, Wiikey and Wiinja.

manias
11-11-2007, 03:13 PM
The point was in reply to you saying they fixed it by accident.

Tell me exactly HOW the wiikey is "great"

A guy comes here looking to find out which is the better commercial modchip to put in his Wii.

Let the guy take the real info and decide for himself. Or actually post some real factual info instead of making it up. Like by saying Cyclowiz was lucky in making their update.

Team Wiikey released their first update over 6 months from the chips depute.
They do not have an on staff programmer. All development and updates for this chip are outsourced to 3rd parties. There was NEVER an offical update to the wiikey, it came about because of a "leak" and even then the Wiikey team did not realease an official version. They let the leaked version be the update. Their update to fix SMG introduced further bugs.

Team Cyclops released their first update 30 days after the chips depute. They have their own developers working on updates to their chip and actually have an active message board where they SUPPORT their chip and other products. They had an update very quickly after it was determined that there were issues with SMG.

The wiikey is the least supported chip out there between Cyclowiz, Wiikey and Wiinja.

Like I said, right now both do the exact same thing. Cyclowiz does nothing more. That makes the performance of the current wiikey version the exact same as the cyclowiz. The difference is in the speed of updates.
The leaked wiikey update was a final beta version, which that dude that quit wouldn't release yet for whatever reason. Kinda crappy, yeah! But he's gone apparently (if we can believe what's said).
Right now the last wiikey update was fast enough, cyclowiz was faster. Wiikey switched programmers, the really really slow dude is gone now. So what the future holds we don't know. Just because the update got released a lot faster does not make the actual final chip better, it makes the programmers better and faster. But I've already said this a thousand times now! Stop bein a dramaqueen :P

Conclusion: For ALL current games Wiikey = Cyclowiz, Cyclowiz has better software ppl behind it, so future games might be supported faster.
The info is here now, I suggest we can let this rest now.