Modchip for PS2

[derchris]

Hi,

I'm new to PS2 modding.
What is the best modchip currently out for the PS2,
like Qoob Pro for the GC, or X3 for the Xbox.

And are there any problems with different PS2 Versions (normal, slim), and BIOS Version (SCPH-xxxxx) ?

And what about HDD, possible or not.
Even with a Slim Version ?

Thanks in advance.

[ToolPunk]

Yes, there is a difference in the way things are done between the versions because of the way the PS2's board was manufactured. Installing a chip weakens the system and can cause several problems and this is why Laser Fixes have been created. If you have a v1-v8 you don't need a Laser Fix but in this group your very best bet is the v7. If you have a v9 or v10 you need the Romeo Mod Laser fix. If you go with the newer v12 you get into a sticky area. This system has the worst burnout rate but the laser fixes for this system drasticlly lower that rate. The Laser Fixes that are used the most for the v12 are the Summ0ne Fix and the Comsoft SlimFix v3 or v4 all being Resistor Fixes. Stay away from Diode Fixes for the v12 because they are quick fixes and can not be trusted. As for chips there are several to choose from. Some do not support the old PS2 versions anymore and some do not support the newer versions quite yet. Choosing a chip is really up to personal needs or wants. There are a lot of options to choose from like if you want a HD. Which is now possible for v1-v12. I myself wanted something simple, just something to run my backups but with great stability. I also liked the look of the v12 and didn't want that old big PS2. So, I have a v12 with a DMS4Lite and the Comsoft SlimFix v4 Laser Fix. I have had NO problems whatsoever. I did though get my chip and fix installed by a great professional modder who I would recommend to anyone anywhere. He does the best work I have ever seen and he takes care of his customers. I mention this because the majority of problems that are experienced with modded PS2s are do to an improper install.

[derchris]

ok, thanks for the informations.

I have checked the PS2 and its serial is: 500004
from that point of view, can you tell me what version it is ?

Lets say, I only would need a modchip for backups, jap and us games.
And it should be upgradeable.
which cheap one would you recommend ?

thanks for all your help :)

[strells]

Get a DMS4 Lite or Pro and do lots of research:

http://www.dms3.com

There is plenty of info available about these chips.

Steve

[ToolPunk]

Don't you like the nice help some people give?
As for your version, you have either a v9 or v10.

Versions 9 & 10
Model 5000x
Inbuilt IR receiver between Reset and Eject buttons, no firewire port.
US consoles are date coded: 3C=V9, 3D=V10
DVD Driver version V9=3.00, V10=3.02

Which means you are most likely going to need a Romeo Mod.

As for the chip, I only recommend the DMS4Pro if you want a built in cheat system or you are going to be hooking up a HD. The DMS4Lite is simple and very reliable when properly installed and if you need a cheat system you can always use one that comes on disc. There is a $10-$20 difference between the 2 depending on where you get them. There is going to be a new Bios/OS upgrade coming out very soon for the 2 so yes they are upgadable.

[derchris]

ok, thanks once again :)

do you have any information about the PAL versions,
and how to find out the correct version number ?

[ToolPunk]

V10 Identification.
These are the same as v9 below though the main mother board will be coded GH 026

V9 Identification.
These consoles will either be Black or Satin Sliver in colour and have an Infrared Remote sensor located between the Power and Eject buttons of the front of the console.
SCPH Number will be from 50001 to 50004 Main board will be GH 023
Here are a couple links for more info:
Identifying your PS2 by the Serial Number and Date Code (http://www.videogamerepair.com/ps2_version_id.htm)
How do I know which PlayStation2 model I have? (http://www.psxservices.co.uk/ps2_version.htm)

[derchris]

So, I bought the H2O Modchip.
It has the Subzero fix onboard.
Do I still need the Romeo mod to prevent laser burnouts ?

And are there any "Solderless" Modchips out there ?

[Kaytin]

Hello. I have a 70011. What version is that, and what is the best chip that I should grab?

[funkie]

Ghost2 would be your best option not only is it the best most reliable chip on the market but it is fairly priced

[Cosmo]

Ghost2 would be your best option not only is it the best most reliable chip on the market but it is fairly priced

if they ever get that damn updated Config Manager out :rolleyes:

[funkie]

its due out any day they were held up with getting v14 v15 support and anti mod protection added to firmware

once config is coded it will be part of flash so goes direct onto chip

[ToolPunk]

The DMS4 chips are the most reliable chips accross the different version PS2's. Supporting all PS2 versions and the most widely used chips out thier. They run a very strong Bios (Toxic) with very high compatibility. (With the exception to the DMS4 EZ solderless which is not recommended)

[funkie]

The DMS4 chips are the most reliable chips accross the different version PS2's. Supporting all PS2 versions and the most widely used chips out thier. They run a very strong Bios (Toxic) with very high compatibility. (With the exception to the DMS4 EZ solderless which is not recommended)


Speak to any installer or ps2 repairs tech and they will tell you dms is one of the most unreliable FACT

[ToolPunk]

Speak to any installer or ps2 repairs tech and they will tell you dms is one of the most unreliable FACT

That's funny because I have. I even know an installer and he uses DMS. He is one of the most respected installers in any category, PS2, XBOX and GC.

I have done so much research on the subject, I am recommended by many to help fill in people on the Info so that they can make a proper descision on thier PS2 mod. Those Modders that use DMS are highly respected for what they do because they have less turn arounds. Those who use anything else have pages and pages of bad Rep about the install, the chip, you name it and it was sent back to the installer.

Your suggestion is faulty because if all you do is go to the installer of course they will tell you the best chip to install is the one they install. They get a discount on the chip they install because they order in mass quantity so they will try and sell you the chip that they like to install. You have to do mass research on the side to find for yourself what is the best or at least if the Modder has a good Repore and if He/She can be trusted to sell you what is good for you and not just what is good for them.

I stand by my suggestion. The chip you choose all depends on what you need but I will always recommend the DMS4 Lite/Pro.

A good DMS4 setup all depends on the install. The only time you should ever have a problem is if you run into a Crappy Modder. (Assuming you do not have a singapore or EZI version and you have a Proper Laser Fix installed, if needed)

[funkie]

A sample of the feedback our team gets

Hi I have just finished installing my Ghost chip and I want to say that i thanks Ghost team. Think it is a great mod chip. I also wanted to thank Danin for his installer. It works great for adding stuff to the PS2 from a CD. And it also makes a great template for making your own installer disk with more stuff on it. With it you can add whatever you want ever home brew stuff you want to the PS2. Thanks again Danin. But I also want to talk about my quest for a mod chip. I emailed 3 mod chip makers and posted questions abount using hard drives and the romeo mod for a v9 in their forums but got only two respondes from the companies. The first to respond was the ghost team in their forum from the ghost administrator. The second was team matrix by email in a week along with some of the people watching the forum. DMS I got who ever was watching the forum but no one from the company. I see from your forum that you have had trouble in the past with support but It looks like that is all in the past. Also I emailed a lot of resellers with the same questions and asked their opinon. Most all stated the DMS PRO SE chip as the best because it has the most features and had toxic OS. And most all claimed that all v9s and v10s needed the romeo mod regardless of the chip. Well all retailers use features to sell their products. Then I emailed a lot of installers with the same questions and asked their opinon and things changed. This group also stated that all v9s and v10s needed the roemo mod regardless of the chip. But dislike for all the DMS chips including the SEs came out such as; they are too big, use too much power, are too noisey, are unstable, and complaints about flash problems. Alot of them still felt to you had bad support. Well I don't agree. Or they did not know much about you. Alot had that problem. The most installers but not all cause you had a few fans in that group liked the Crystal chip for its DNA$ support and its constant bios updates. I think maybe they have so may updates because they have so many bugs in their bios. I just don't know. The installer group also like the Matrix Infinity for its stabilty, Matrix Infinity manager, and DEV2 support. Then I emailed the people that do major repairs on PS2s and do mod chip installations. There the Ghost and Matrix Infinity was liked for stability. Thats if they knew about the Ghost. The Crystal was still liked for its DNA$ support. And the DMS chips were disliked even more for their size, noise and flash problems. The need for the romeo mod was questioned. I was tolded to keep the PS2 away form heat and make sure the heat pad is on the LA6508 chip. I have to admit if it was not for the Ghost chip I would most likely have gone for the Matix Infinity because it had good marks from the last 2 groups and for the DEV2 support and fast boot support. But I can live without the fast boot. I hope DEV2 is coming for the Ghost and hopefully their DEV2 will start more than one program. Besides stability is always more important. One thing I learned Ghost team is that not enough people who sell and install chips or repair PS2s know how good your mod chip is!!! So keep up the good work and get the news out. Thanks again Ghost team for the great mod chip. Dave.

[ToolPunk]

That guy was just rambling on and seemed extremely confused. It seemed to me that someone convinced him of something that he went along with but was still kind of leary at the end.

He was trying to make it seem as though the DMS team made up the whole Romeo Mod thing, that is bull. The Romeo Mod for the V9/v10 is just like the Fixes for the v12. They are safe guards. No you don't need them but you run a very high risk of killing your Laser or PS2 so why not just be safe.

The above comment by that person bears no grounds in strengthening that the Ghost chip is more reliable then the DMS4.

I can give you a link to a 32 page thread full of good reviews on the DMS4 and a highly trusted and respectable installer.

Not only that but the whole entire DMS forum is packed full of good reviews. The majority of problems found there were caused by an Improper Install done by a Noob Installer or a Shady Modder. Most were easily fixed by a double check of installation or sending it in to a Respected Modder.

[funkie]

DMS forum is packed full of good reviews

as is the ghost2 forum we get loads of ppl having installed dms coming over to us and saying how better our chip is

I'm an installer myself and have fitted all chips not just for ps2 but for xbox and gamecube

I will only install
Ghost2 in ps2
xecuter3ce or xecuter2.6ce in xbox
Viper GC Extreme or Qoobchip Pro in gamecube

and I make my own chip for psx lol

we can disagree all day long m8 my opinions come from years of installing the fekin things and on a how many you get back ratio

[ToolPunk]

Yes, we could argue all day on the subject but I will state the same. I will always recommend the DMS4.

Your years of installing proves nothing once again. No matter how long you have been installing the chip doesn't make a difference. A company can make a product for 15 years, that doesn't mean it's not a piece of crap. That just means they have a great marketing team and Marketers are the produce version of Lawyers (some are good and some are not so good).

I am not trying to say that the Ghost chip is a piece of crap or sway you from what you believe to be the best chip. I am looking out for others that are where I once was.

Through my studies, customers personal experiences, reviews and reports from respected Modders, and and my personal analysis, I have come to my conclusion that the DMS4 is the best all around chip.

The DMS4 chip is Sturdy, Dependable, Compatible and it comes in both a Basic or Pro version offering you the choice between the Basics or Advanced features (Through the support of a Powerful bios, Toxic). Just to touch on the Chip a bit.

I have never had a problem with it and will continue to stand by it.

[funkie]

they have a great marketing team and Marketers are the produce version of Lawyers (some are good and some are not so good).

Yes team DMS have, its the only reason they are popular.

Your years of installing proves nothing once again. No matter how long you have been installing the chip doesn't make a difference

of course it proves I know what I'm talking about it proves I know a reliable chip from a non reliable one as I have tried them all.

DMS are too big for a start, they need professional install and are not diy friendly the same as the matrix if the install isn't spot on with short wires etc it won't work
this in my opinion isn't a reliable chip for customers that are fitting themselves.

And have you ever fitted a ghost2? if you have fine you have a non biased opinion in no then your just a fanboy.

Get Baldbouncer or Mrmodchips to tell me DMS is a more reliable chip than a ghost2 then it might make your opinion more viable.