View Full Version : Sony: Microsoft is relying too much on Halo 3, we've never been so reliant on one game
A news outlet contacted Sony last week to ask for their response on the market impact that Halo 3 will have. A Sony rep responded by implying that Microsoft are relying on Halo 3 too much and commented that unlike MS, Sony have never been depedent on one game and Playstation never fails to offer a broad portfolio of games with this year being no different.
Asked about the market impact of the "Halo 3" release, a Sony representative last week issued a statement suggesting that Microsoft is relying on it too much. "We've never been dependent on any one game -- PlayStation has always offered a very diverse portfolio of gaming experiences and this year is no different," the statement said, citing upcoming titles such as "Gran Turismo 5" and "Metal Gear Solid 4."
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So-Unreal
09-24-2007, 10:12 PM
I think its called marketing.
Aeond
09-24-2007, 10:13 PM
I partially agree. Yes Microsoft relies on Halo 3, but not only on Halo 3. There are also a lot of other great games.
And it's true that the PS2 had a large variety of different games which appeal to many people. I think also the PS3 will deliver in this respect.
willizm
09-24-2007, 10:14 PM
Sony wishes they had a game they could rely on, but this Christmas ain't looking to good. $50M to develop with an expectation of the game making $300M+. Thats one hell of a ROI. I don't think they need to rely on anything as Bioshock came out a month ago and did exceptionally well.
Rinny
09-24-2007, 10:17 PM
This year
Sony
Ratchet
teasers of MGS
M$
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Halo 3
M$ has the big three this year. I dont know what to expect next year as Im not really all that hyped about any 08 exclusive for the 360 yet. It looks like this year the 360 will be absolutely dominant. $ony has done a pretty good job of hyping up MGS though and if it comes out this year Ratchet and MGS alone could beat or tie all of M$'s offerings.
Hassass1n
09-24-2007, 10:30 PM
lol, great pic to go with the story
Shin555
09-24-2007, 10:40 PM
I partially agree. Yes Microsoft relies on Halo 3, but not only on Halo 3. There are also a lot of other great games.
And it's true that the PS2 had a large variety of different games which appeal to many people. I think also the PS3 will deliver in this respect.
I agree.
M$ has the big three this year. I dont know what to expect next year as Im not really all that hyped about any 08 exclusive for the 360 yet. It looks like this year the 360 will be absolutely dominant. $ony has done a pretty good job of hyping up MGS though and if it comes out this year Ratchet and MGS alone could beat or tie all of M$'s offerings.
I honestly think the PS3 will come into its own next year, there are scheduled to be some big things happening, but the word schedule is always loose with Sony. I know one thing there are quite a good few games i got my eye on for the PS3.
But, i have both so whatever happens i just hope they concentrate on making amazing games and stop this console war bitching. To settle it they should go have some Deathmatches or something, cos i'm tired of hearing it....Capture the Flag Paintballing every 6 months...Round Robin style, Microsoft, Nintendo and PlayStation....the winner can have all the bragging rights until the next tourney.
nwo504
09-24-2007, 10:40 PM
lmao @ the pic but metal gear is not a system seller
Deadulas
09-24-2007, 10:43 PM
can this place be anymore bias toward 360 and MS?
mystic54
09-24-2007, 10:44 PM
I guess the Metal Gear and FF series come into mind in Sony's case. Really though, if they think Halo 3 is the only thing that will sell consoles this fall, they are wrong. Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and COD 4, will all push tons of consoles.
nwo504
09-24-2007, 10:45 PM
I guess the Metal Gear and FF series come into mind in Sony's case. Really though, if they think Halo 3 is the only thing that will sell consoles this fall, they are wrong. Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and COD 4, will all push tons of consoles.
bioshock really didnt do anything
mystic54
09-24-2007, 11:06 PM
bioshock really didnt do anything
Only the fact that it will probably be up for game of the year?
Adopted
09-24-2007, 11:08 PM
lol, great pic to go with the story
quoted for truthiness
DaFireStarter
09-24-2007, 11:11 PM
WTF?! XBOX 360 has way better 3rd party than all three consoles. Don't forget about AceCombat and Too Human! Plus just the fact that the 360 runs most if not all cross platform games better. I have a feeling Assasin's Creed isn't going to do so hot on the PS3.
Deadulas
can this place be anymore bias toward 360 and MS?
How are we biased? Have you even looked at the facts? Maybe two exclusive games PS3 has that are actually good while MS is a juggernaut! Look at IGN.com's fall releases for all consoles. XBOX 360 flatout owns this season. Adleast we have actual facts unlike the crapp that comes out of the average 13yrs old PS3 fanboy....
BTW: Are you the author of the PSP N64 emulator? Great job keep up the work!
Fahennessy
09-24-2007, 11:30 PM
Wii
Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
I'm pretty sure Wii wins this year.
Rinny
09-24-2007, 11:35 PM
Wii
Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
I'm pretty sure Wii wins this year.
original IPs? No.
360 is the hands down winner on breadth and selection of IPs this year. 2008 will probably be the year of the PS3, but this year 360 has too many good exclusive IPs.
I'm not dissing Zelda or Mario or Metroid, but they are rehashes. Halo 3 is one of the worst rehashes and Ill admit that. Wii will definitely win the year on console sales. I just dont know how a lineup of 4 sequels, one of which that came out at launch is overpowering.
Rinny
09-24-2007, 11:39 PM
can this place be anymore bias toward 360 and MS?
by posting Sony's statement or are you judging it by the response of posters here.
end3rbr0
09-24-2007, 11:44 PM
I guess the Metal Gear and FF series come into mind in Sony's case. Really though, if they think Halo 3 is the only thing that will sell consoles this fall, they are wrong. Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and COD 4, will all push tons of consoles.
I think if we see another price drop on Sony's side, thats where you will see the most change as far as moving consoles this fall. Halo 3 isn't really a console mover, it is a game that 360 owners are excited about, Halo fans already own xbox's so although it will do extremely well in sales, I don't think it will move that many more consoles.
I think you underestimate the selling power of well established franchises on Sony's front though. Ratchet and Clank, Unreal Tournament 3, COD4, and let's not forget SOCOM: Confrontation, all of which will move consoles, especially if there is another price drop. Besides those titles though, they have some newcomers in the form of HAZE and Uncharted that should be hits as well. Gran Turismo 5 prologue, Little Big Planet, Wipeout HD, are just 3 great, low cost-play now solutions from the PSN. Even though Home was delayed, they should still get an open beta before Christmas.
360 is gonna have to fend off alot of horrible consumer reports this holiday as the hardware defects still haven't been fully addressed(if you think people don't read those reports during the holidays you are smoking crack)and aside from their golden boy Master Chief, M$ doesn't really have any AAA exclusives for it's console this season. Most of the AAA titles coming to 360 are multiformat. Mass Effect and BioShock may be great games(BioShock for sure)but they will most likely fade because of Halo 3. Also with BioShock there is a huge PC user base that has access to the game as well. Why buy a new console for a game you could just spend 50 bucks to get on PC? So I don't expect BioShock to move that many consoles, it's already lost in the mix that is HALO.
Oh, but I saved the best for last....Expect Wii to move TONS of consoles, simply because it hasn't really lost steam since it's release and with a new Smash Bro's, Mario game and the recently released Metroid, you can't count Nintendo out due to lack of exlcusives.
All in all, I expect a big shift in the Video Game Industry this Holiday season. Expect Master Chief to break every conceivable sales record. Expect Sony to earn alot of respect back from it's fanbase. And expect Nintendo to keep being #1
XxBigP123xX
09-24-2007, 11:49 PM
original IPs? No.
360 is the hands down winner on breadth and selection of IPs this year. 2008 will probably be the year of the PS3, but this year 360 has too many good exclusive IPs.
I'm not dissing Zelda or Mario or Metroid, but they are rehashes. Halo 3 is one of the worst rehashes and Ill admit that. Wii will definitely win the year on console sales. I just dont know how a lineup of 4 sequels, one of which that came out at launch is overpowering.
yeah you said just about everything i would've said. nice job:)
Blades
09-25-2007, 12:21 AM
A news outlet contacted Sony last week to ask for their response on the market impact that Halo 3 will have. A Sony rep responded by implying that Microsoft are relying on Halo 3 too much and commented that unlike MS, Sony have never been depedent on one game and Playstation never fails to offer a broad portfolio of games with this year being no different.
Ummm,... what is that I smell...sniff..sniff..ahhh, yes. That smells just like jealousy to me.
Come on Sony, you get your moments with Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy. Let MS have theres. Geez..:rolleyes:
;
pwntendo
09-25-2007, 12:54 AM
All in all, I expect a big shift in the Video Game Industry this Holiday season. Expect Master Chief to break every conceivable sales record. Expect Sony to earn alot of respect back from it's fanbase. And expect Nintendo to keep being #1
I agree wholeheartedly except for the bit about Sony. It won't be until mid to late 2008 before we see anything on the PS3 that's going to earn them "respect" or market share.
snipersnake
09-25-2007, 02:38 AM
You are dribbling sh!t, here let me wipe your mouth.
Metal Gear Solid = hyped by Kojima Studious, NOT SONY.
Final Fantasy 13 = hyped by SQUARE ENIX, not Sony.
If you fail the basics, you are not getting anywhere.
stop_loading
09-25-2007, 02:44 AM
2 games: mgs4 and FFXIII
they're not much better
kcvfr400
09-25-2007, 03:29 AM
I have always believed microsoft has relied on halo to much thats why they have such a very weak 1st party development compared to sony and nintendo.
Its clear their stratergy to back only the 1 game has some merits on income but it will overshadow too many games for the 360 from other developers this year, which is not good for the long term stratergy.
The hype alone could become damaging as pathetic reviewers (who contradicted themselves in their reviews lol) make claims like you won't need another multiplayer game until the next xbox console. Any third party developer is not going to want to hear that one are they.
I think this is why sony do not rely to much on 1 particular 1st party title as it can become a problem if that title overshadows all third party titles, a problem nintendo had with the gamecube I believe funnily enough.
loliix
09-25-2007, 03:37 AM
You are dribbling sh!t, here let me wipe your mouth.
Metal Gear Solid = hyped by Kojima Studious, NOT SONY.
Final Fantasy 13 = hyped by SQUARE ENIX, not Sony.
If you fail the basics, you are not getting anywhere.KillZone 2 == Made and Hyped by Sony
Just like the original KillZone on PS2 (aka the Halo killer) was severely overhyped by Sony.
FF13 is just mentioned on speciallity sites and not yet hyped. The reason is simple, it is far away from completion let alone release.. give time to time.
MGS4 has been hyped by both Konami and Sony, just look at the press release statements from Sony pre-PS3 launch and post-PS3 launch.
armagedalbeebop
09-25-2007, 04:00 AM
lol, great pic to go with the story
you are wise my powerful one :eek:
neurotoxin
09-25-2007, 04:24 AM
LOL @ the picture of metal gear, that made me chuckle.
........ But when Microsoft say anything about sony is it filed under the PS3 Forum, or 360?
Just wondering because it says 360 above, and this is clearly IS PS3 news?!
Strange that.
TomIsADeftone
09-25-2007, 05:01 AM
PS3 and Sony imo are ruing the fact they didn't get GTA before Xmas or a Resident Evil.
Halo3 is jst a part of a very strong Fall line up for the 360, the same can't be said for the PS3.
satel
09-25-2007, 05:07 AM
A Sony rep responded by implying that Microsoft are relying on Halo 3 too much and commented that unlike MS, Sony have never been depedent on one game and Playstation never fails to offer a broad portfolio of games with this year being no different.
best comment by sony thus far ;)
Evolution
09-25-2007, 05:18 AM
original IPs? No.
360 is the hands down winner on breadth and selection of IPs this year. 2008 will probably be the year of the PS3, but this year 360 has too many good exclusive IPs.
I'm not dissing Zelda or Mario or Metroid, but they are rehashes. Halo 3 is one of the worst rehashes and Ill admit that. Wii will definitely win the year on console sales. I just dont know how a lineup of 4 sequels, one of which that came out at launch is overpowering.
Are you even aware of the sheer Irony of those statements?
And what are MGS4 and FF13? Brand new IP?
Sony are as reliant on rehashes (although games companies would prefer to call it a tried and tested formula) as anyone.
Killzone 2
MGS 4
DMC 4
GTA4
GT5
Tekken 6
Resident Evil 5
All scheduled for release on PS3 some time within the next year.
They are all at it. And people are fed up with it.
Xenogears V
09-25-2007, 06:43 AM
Can't a game do the difference, and then the PS3 has, God Of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4 ect ect, but after, what games are there?, the nothing.
ricflairandy
09-25-2007, 07:28 AM
360 line up for 08 looks fantastic
Gears 2
Banjo kazooie 360
gta 4
saints row 2
and loads of others. but they are my most lookforward to.
GameMonarch
09-25-2007, 07:38 AM
With no big guns to counter this year I expect they will make many more of these lame comments. It was a mistake for me to buy PS3, I am not impressed. It’s over priced hype.
Go Mario and M$ finish the fight.
whackawookie
09-25-2007, 07:38 AM
ms so reliant on one game? maybe sony doesnt realize how powerful the halo franchise is. over rated or not money talks and right now its made more money then sony could dream.
twEAkEd
09-25-2007, 08:19 AM
Sony don't rely on any one game or games. They sold this console relying on bwu-way.
RyuCheese
09-25-2007, 09:36 AM
Are you even aware of the sheer Irony of those statements?
And what are MGS4 and FF13? Brand new IP?
Sony are as reliant on rehashes (although games companies would prefer to call it a tried and tested formula) as anyone.
Killzone 2
MGS 4
DMC 4
GTA4
GT5
Tekken 6
Resident Evil 5
All scheduled for release on PS3 some time within the next year.
They are all at it. And people are fed up with it.
I, personally, don't mind sequels. As long as the game is fun, what does it matter if it's part 1 or part 13?
felixm477
09-25-2007, 10:14 AM
can this place be anymore bias toward 360 and MS?
you must have missed the news posts on the halo RROD nascar or the 33% death rates and all the other negative 360 news. this site isnt biased its the forum users that make it look that way, sites like this with open views tends to harbor tons of fanboy battles.
xplayer
09-25-2007, 10:17 AM
I'm personally excited about Ninja Gaiden 2....
mmm... blood...
grapeape
09-25-2007, 10:18 AM
M$ has the big three this year. I dont know what to expect next year as Im not really all that hyped about any 08 exclusive for the 360 yet. It looks like this year the 360 will be absolutely dominant. $ony has done a pretty good job of hyping up MGS though and if it comes out this year Ratchet and MGS alone could beat or tie all of M$'s offerings.
I apologize for going off topic but why do ps3 owners expect Ratchet to be a system seller? Only one Ratchet game has even cracked the top 50 in sales on the ps2 and that was Ratchet & Clank Up Your Arsenal with a little over 1 million sales. I realize that it has a decent following, I think its a fun platformer myself but I think many are overestimating its appeal especially when its going head to head with Mario Galaxy.
felixm477
09-25-2007, 10:19 AM
ms so reliant on one game? maybe sony doesnt realize how powerful the halo franchise is. over rated or not money talks and right now its made more money then sony could dream.
if anything sony is the one reliant on 1 game. if you recall sony seems to only st their eyes on 1 title at a time as their ace up the sleeve, and when that title releases and fails expectations they quickly move over to the next "coming soon" title. i remember when it was all up to Resistence, then it went on over to Motorstorm, then Lair and HS and so on and so on. Sony is always hoping the next title will save them where MS really could care less they have so many titles that even crappy sellers would keep the in the game, MS just happens to be aware of the fact Halo will sell them millions any time they want.
TheClockWork
09-25-2007, 11:56 AM
best comment by sony thus far ;)
haha :D ya, they're really talkin sh!te : >
Deadulas
09-25-2007, 01:00 PM
idk it just seems that the front page is all over 360 and how great it is and yes it does also post the bad and people see it, comment on it, and generally aren't really effected by it at all but when ps3 or sony story comes along say like this one on how "we aren't relying on one game this fall" (something like that) the person who posted it, posted a picture of mgs as if they are trying to stir up **** or trying to say something to the effect of "are you kidding me look here mgs is your banking game" i just don't think thats right for a news type blog but thats just my opinion
shemmy
09-25-2007, 01:07 PM
I, personally, don't mind sequels. As long as the game is fun, what does it matter if it's part 1 or part 13?
exactly. it doesn't matter what number comes after the game title as long as the game is good.
let me say one thing: resident evil 4. show me someone who doesn't say it's the best game in the series so far, and i'll show you a guy i just bludgeoned to death!
LeGioN1202
09-25-2007, 02:51 PM
WTF?! XBOX 360 has way better 3rd party than all three consoles. Don't forget about AceCombat and Too Human! Plus just the fact that the 360 runs most if not all cross platform games better. I have a feeling Assasin's Creed isn't going to do so hot on the PS3.
Deadulas
can this place be anymore bias toward 360 and MS?
How are we biased? Have you even looked at the facts? Maybe two exclusive games PS3 has that are actually good while MS is a juggernaut! Look at IGN.com's fall releases for all consoles. XBOX 360 flatout owns this season. Adleast we have actual facts unlike the crapp that comes out of the average 13yrs old PS3 fanboy....
BTW: Are you the author of the PSP N64 emulator? Great job keep up the work!
This is exactly what he means MS Troll.
2 exclusives?
M S is hanging on my a fucking thread with this stupid Halo 3 crap. After that, what do you have? I would REALLY love an answer for that. Is it going to hold off until Halo 4? They had Eternal Sonata which was going to make me buy a 360, but with EVERY GOD DAMN TITLE ON PC plus the fact that the games I want are also coming to PS3... how many exclusives do you have son?
Sony still has Ratchet and Clank this year, along with Haze, UT III, GT5 Prologue, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Little Big Planet right after the New Year, Disgaea 3, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS 4, Devil May Cry 4, God of War III, GT4, Guitar Hero III, Rock Band, Home shortly into next year, there are plenty more but I just proved my god damn point.
You have NOTHING to look forward to in 08 besides the few multiconsole titles mentioned, so I will be patient and wait until PS3 owners can watch to see as MS falls, Sony rises and Maxconsole changes their approach, as they did before this MS/360 bullshit.
When the site was respectable...
Evolution
09-25-2007, 04:07 PM
This is exactly what he means MS Troll.
2 exclusives?
M S is hanging on my a fucking thread with this stupid Halo 3 crap. After that, what do you have? I would REALLY love an answer for that. Is it going to hold off until Halo 4? They had Eternal Sonata which was going to make me buy a 360, but with EVERY GOD DAMN TITLE ON PC plus the fact that the games I want are also coming to PS3... how many exclusives do you have son?
Sony still has Ratchet and Clank this year, along with Haze, UT III, GT5 Prologue, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Little Big Planet right after the New Year, Disgaea 3, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS 4, Devil May Cry 4, God of War III, GT4, Guitar Hero III, Rock Band, Home shortly into next year, there are plenty more but I just proved my god damn point.
You have NOTHING to look forward to in 08 besides the few multiconsole titles mentioned, so I will be patient and wait until PS3 owners can watch to see as MS falls, Sony rises and Maxconsole changes their approach, as they did before this MS/360 bullshit.
When the site was respectable...
Jesus Christ kid, take a chill pill. You are bordering on pathological hatred there, not good.
Its a fucking games machine we are taking about, not world peace.
Honestly some people take this thing WAY too seriously. Do you have the rosary out praying for MS failure every night? :D
_Mazza_
09-25-2007, 06:54 PM
Are you even aware of the sheer Irony of those statements?
And what are MGS4 and FF13? Brand new IP?
Sony are as reliant on rehashes (although games companies would prefer to call it a tried and tested formula) as anyone.
Killzone 2
MGS 4
DMC 4
GTA4
GT5
Tekken 6
Resident Evil 5
All scheduled for release on PS3 some time within the next year.
They are all at it. And people are fed up with it.
Yeah and 3 of them are scheduled for 360 release too.
I can't wait for Banjo-Kazooie, Mass Effect, Too Human, Huxley (if it is ever released), Kane and Lynch, Alan Wake and Timeshift.
I honestly think that the PS3 is not going to catch up, at least here in the UK. Everyone I know owns a 360.
Hidari_Mak
09-26-2007, 12:47 AM
This is exactly what he means MS Troll.
2 exclusives?
M S is hanging on my a fucking thread with this stupid Halo 3 crap. After that, what do you have? I would REALLY love an answer for that. Is it going to hold off until Halo 4? They had Eternal Sonata which was going to make me buy a 360, but with EVERY GOD DAMN TITLE ON PC plus the fact that the games I want are also coming to PS3... how many exclusives do you have son?
As far as upcoming 360 exclusives go, there's also Mass Effect (which won various "RPG of show" and "game of show" awards), Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Kane & Lynch, Banjo Kazooie, Beautiful Katamari, Ace Combat 6, Project Gotham Racing 4, as a few others which come to mind.
Sony still has Ratchet and Clank this year, along with Haze, UT III, GT5 Prologue, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Little Big Planet right after the New Year, Disgaea 3, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS 4, Devil May Cry 4, God of War III, GT4, Guitar Hero III, Rock Band, Home shortly into next year, there are plenty more but I just proved my god damn point.
You forget that Devil May Cry 4, GT4, Rock Band, UT III, and Guitar Hero 3 are also coming to the 360, as are other former Sony exclusives as well as the previous cross platform franchises.
By the way, perhaps you should calm down some. These was a whole lot of Resistance hype, we've been hearing about MGS4 for a long time already, and I suspect that the next 12 months will have dozens of FF XIII stories just as the previous 12 months did. And somehow, considering how obsessed and emotionally tied to the PS3 that you appear to be, I doubt you'll be whining about too many stories for those games.
grapeape
09-26-2007, 01:12 AM
As far as upcoming 360 exclusives go, there's also Mass Effect (which won various "RPG of show" and "game of show" awards), Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Kane & Lynch, Banjo Kazooie, Beautiful Katamari, Ace Combat 6, Project Gotham Racing 4, as a few others which come to mind.
You forget that Devil May Cry 4, GT4, Rock Band, UT III, and Guitar Hero 3 are also coming to the 360, as are other former Sony exclusives as well as the previous cross platform franchises.
Dont forget Splinter Cell Conviction, Marvel Universe Online, Fable 2, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2, CryOn, Dead Island, Postal 3, etc...I dont think 360 gamers are going to be hurting for content any time soon.
Soldiers On LSD
09-26-2007, 04:02 AM
WHAAAAAT?! Damn I thought games were comming to 360 but didnt thought were that many!!:eek: This will go to my sig... just a reminder of games to get. :D
edit:LOL!! Could not put all the games comming to 360 due the 500 character limit...:p oh well!! that means the 360 have nothing to fear in 08
felixm477
09-26-2007, 10:26 AM
Dont forget Splinter Cell Conviction, Marvel Universe Online, Fable 2, Infinite Undiscovery, Ninja Gaiden 2, CryOn, Dead Island, Postal 3, etc...I dont think 360 gamers are going to be hurting for content any time soon.
btw have u heard any news on Marvel Univ? being a fan of COH im dying to see some info on it. as for the topic it will take Sony more much more than 1 really good game to cause a dent in the 360's library of rated 9+ titles wich are a few and growing. ppl seem to be too busy noticing halo and gears to see that MS actually has other genres while not as exaggerated as with the ps2 wich was an rpg flooded library.
end3rbr0
09-26-2007, 11:45 AM
As far as upcoming 360 exclusives go, there's also Mass Effect (which won various "RPG of show" and "game of show" awards), Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Kane & Lynch, Banjo Kazooie, Beautiful Katamari, Ace Combat 6, Project Gotham Racing 4, as a few others which come to mind.
Accept that Kane & Lynch isn't a 360 exclusive. :(
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