EPIDEMIC- Wii burned backups only work first boot [Archive]

cloudd

09-09-2007, 01:07 PM

Wii burned backups only work first boot. If the wii is reset they still work (have not tested the reset test thoroughly though). Once the disc is ejected and reinsterted it NEVER works. I must wait and amount of time until it work like an hour.

I also noticed that with an ohm meter all of my point have zero resistance between each other. After booting the first time I check the resistance again pin 5 and pin 7 now have around 600-700 ohms between them and the power and ground have 68 ohms. This is weird! All I have to do to get a backup to work again is leave the disc in and wait 1 hour with the systen unplugged. Works everytime

This seems to be becoming a huge problem that no one has addressed. People just think we are installing the chips wrong. explain why tons of people are getting this problem on the first boot then.

I have read about many people have this problem.

ar1stotle

09-09-2007, 01:50 PM

I dunno... a similar thing happened to my PS2, but I believe it was related to the laser cable. However, with all these Wii users experiencing a similar problem, I'd expect that it's a problem with the chip install. I mean, originals still run, right? So, it's either a problem with the laser reading burned media, or the chip. All the chip does is tell the drive that the game is legit so that it can load. If this processes is like that of PS2 modchips, then the Wii will not re-check the disk until it is ejected (also how SwapMagic disks worked). So that could possibly explain why it's working the first time. However, it's possible that sometime during gameplay something happens to the modchip... whether it's a connection coming a little loose or what, I dunno, but it might be enough to disable the chip so that it doesn't authenticate the next disk inserted.

Was your chip quicksoldered or was it installed with wires?

Just my guess.

boxxdr

09-09-2007, 03:07 PM

Curious. Is your wii the D2B with the 3 missing pins?

cloudd

09-09-2007, 03:57 PM

linuxares

09-09-2007, 04:17 PM

what media do you use?

Try Verbatim and use DVD-R(!!!)

boxxdr

09-09-2007, 06:09 PM

My wii is the DB2 3 pins missing and I have also replaced the laser and adjust the pot does nothing to help with this problem. Both lasers give the same results.

I am thinking about buying some silver backups and seeing what the results are.

To me this sounds like a weak solder joint. Would love to see a HQ pic of the install. Did you grind the chip down or solder to the stubs without grinding?

cloudd

09-10-2007, 01:41 AM

I scrapped the silicon off with a razorblade and used multimeter.

XPunked

09-10-2007, 08:51 AM

Alot of people are having this problem.

I agree that a high def pic of the install would help.

jweaver

09-10-2007, 12:33 PM

I am seeing something like this with my PAL model bought in Dec 07 with a WiiNja v2

With some games, they play with no errors at all. Then I turn off the Wii.. The next time I play (could be mins, hours or even days) I get a DRE.

I then have to power it off completely where I am back to square one (i.e it plays the first time)

The other iteration of this is where I get a game which gives a DRE over and over.. I then put in another game which works.. I then go back to the first (which gave me a DRE) and now its working again.

Something very strange is going on!!

Jon

gruk

09-10-2007, 01:24 PM

Prior to the latest firmware update my WiiD install was working fine. Now I'm experiencing the same problem as others are. It definitely has nothing to do with a bad install. Something about the latest firmware is causing the problem.

stuart_75

09-10-2007, 02:29 PM

Is it possible that the latest firmware can detect backups but slowly rejects then over a period of time?

rawheadREX

09-10-2007, 05:01 PM

i had this exact problem, especially after the latest firmware update. In my opinion the latest firmware rejects info from discs that has a large consistency of errors, whereas before it was less sensitive. I say this because in order for me to have solved this problem, i went and bought a new pioneer burner. I reburned all the games that worked only once, usually right after a burn, and now they all work perfectly.

I think the new firmware is better at detecting info from a disc that has been burned, especially bad burns with poor quality or older burners. My samsung was the nitemare cause of all this for me.

XPunked

09-10-2007, 10:51 PM

I think rawhex might be onto something.

But it doesn't explain why games work on first boot but then not boot the game again for a few hours. Unless after the laser has warmed up it is more sensitive or something like that, and thus can detect errors better.

rawheadREX

09-11-2007, 12:54 AM

I can't explain that either, all i can say is that it occurred consistently to me before (only ran once, right after being burned) then after the new burner, never occurred again.

senkuo

09-11-2007, 01:29 PM

I can't explain that either, all i can say is that it occurred consistently to me before (only ran once, right after being burned) then after the new burner, never occurred again.

rawheadREX: You may read my posts on other threads that I'm having similar problem. May I know what your new burner is? Thanks.

rawheadREX

09-11-2007, 02:06 PM

I bought the pioneer 112d. It works great and you can get it cheap 35 to 40 bucks. Pleople don't realize that the brand and quality of your burner is of far more importance than the media and speed you burn it at. With a bad burner, yes, you have to use only the best media, and you MUST burn at the 4X speed, but with this pioneer, i can use crap media, and games work flawless even when burned at 16X. Anyway, see this thread:

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=73104&page=2

cloudd

09-12-2007, 02:47 AM

THE ANSWER = Pioneer DVR-112D

perfect burns

I have been screwing with my wii for over 3 1/2 weeks. It would only boot on the first try then I would have to let the system sit for about an hour unplugged before I could get it to boot again. I tried 2 wii kits and 1 wii key. nothing worked. burned disc on a plexor 4x model burn and a sony 16x model. Nothing would work. I finally bought a I bought the Pioneer DVR-112D drive and burn a disc. It worked immediately with same dvd's I had been using all along in the other burners (maxell 16x dvd-r).

BUY A Pioneer DVR-112D it is a MUST!!!
BUY A Pioneer DVR-112D it is a MUST!!!
BUY A Pioneer DVR-112D it is a MUST!!!

XPunked

09-12-2007, 04:33 AM

Sweet!!

Well it sounds like we may have a fix for this annoying problem.

rawheadREX

09-12-2007, 10:54 AM

manias

09-12-2007, 01:23 PM

Excellent. I am glad that worked out for you.

I only wish there was a way to tell everyone having consistent dre's that they are likely not the result of poor media, but rather by the quality of their burner.

it's always gonna be both possibly. always use quality dvd-r's and if it still doesn't work then it's yer burner. easy!

senkuo

09-13-2007, 10:34 PM

manias

09-14-2007, 12:27 AM

Just got a new Pioneer DVR-112D today.
Burnt MarioStrikers with ImgBurn at 4x on Taiyo-Yuden DVD-R.

DRE :eek:

Tried Rayman Rabbids. Same thing. :(

Wondering.... any of you guys with 3.0U check and accept system update?

i've updated as far as u can go.. and many many others have also without problems.
so perhaps ur chip solder points r screwed or perhaps yer lens has worn out a bit from so many crappy burns.. or perhaps you have a bad bunch of taiyos so try tdk-r's for once.
Also the taiyo's could be optimized to function at 8x or 12x instead of 4x. Try everything :)

psp11

09-14-2007, 01:57 AM

Try Nero. Imgburn may be the problem.

babb_z

09-14-2007, 03:07 AM

I used clonecd with a Pio burner on the one i had and got the same problem. It wasn't a burner issue.

cloudd

09-14-2007, 04:07 AM

I was on FW2.2U when I got the pioneer dvr-112D and everything ran perfect. I have since upgraded to FW3.0U and had had a few issues with the disk not reading after it has been on awhile NO DRE's in the game just couldn't get anything to boot once lastnight. I have not had time to test it thoughly though. It is definately nothing like the one read at first boot problem I had with the badly burn media. So FW3.0U is doing something to the disc reading compatibility from what I can see so far.

I need more time to get valid results but I STILL recommend definately buying the DVR-112D! It will eminate a huge problem that you won't have to deal with if you happen to have a couple of shitty burners. At least you know it will NOT be the burner if you are using a DVR-112D! All of my disc are working with it!

I can't speak for any other pioneer models than this one.

rawheadREX

09-14-2007, 11:36 AM

I don't know if this helps you or not, but before i upgraded to the 3.0e firmware, and before I bought the pioneer burner, I turned down my wiikey drive setting to 3X, this tended to lessen dre's and drive reading problems. Since the update however, it almost needs to be on 6X speed. So if you haven't done that it's worth a try.