Paramount and DreamWorks drop Blu-ray, Shrek 3 goes HD-DVD Exclusive!

[Zeus]

Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation today announced that it will be dropping support for the Blu-ray format and exclusively backing the HD-DVD format. This announcement will affect the upcoming release of Shrek the Third and ALL The movies distributed by Paramount, DreamWorks, Paramount Vantage, Nickeloden Movies and MTV Films. The CEO of Paramount revealed that the move comes as the company believes HD-DVD is the most affordable high quality choice for consumers and a 'smart choice' for Paramount.


Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc. (NYSE:DWA) will offer next-generation DVDs in the HD DVD format and drop support for Blu-ray, further complicating the race between the competing technologies.

Monday's announcement affects the upcoming DVD release of the blockbuster 'Shrek the Third' and all movies distributed by Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Paramount Vantage, Nickelodeon Movies and MTV Films, as well as movies from DreamWorks Animation, which are distributed exclusively by Paramount Home Entertainment.

Paramount previously released movies in both formats.

'Part of our vision is to aggressively extend our movies beyond the theater and deliver the quality and features that appeal to our audience,' said Brad Grey, chairman and CEO of Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc. (NYSE:VIA) 'I believe HD DVD is not only the affordable high-quality choice for consumers, but also the smart choice for Paramount.'


News Source: <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-19015486.htm" target="_blank">CNN</a>

[XxBigP123xX]

nothing like investing in a failing format eh?

[So-Unreal]

Wow where are the little kids at?

[whackawookie]

nothing like investing in a failing format eh?

say what you want but this little investment is what just blew all chances of a clear cut winner. if there was one company that could give bluray a run for its money its this one. its a huge blow

[adamlowery]

you ps3 queers are hilarious. you see a statement such as 95% of all ps3 owners own atleast 1 bluray movie and 45% of ps3 owners own more than 5, and u start going "yea blugay is awesome" forgetting that all of those were given free. And before hd-dvd started the same promotion it was behind bluray by about 5-10% on each of the above and those movies were actually paid for.

[XxBigP123xX]

you ps3 queers are hilarious. you see a statement such as 95% of all ps3 owners own atleast 1 bluray movie and 45% of ps3 owners own more than 5, and u start going "yea blugay is awesome" forgetting that all of those were given free. And before hd-dvd started the same promotion it was behind bluray by about 5-10% on each of the above and those movies were actually paid for.

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 0.

[Meelo]

That's gotta hurt!

[CZroe]

say what you want but this little investment is what just blew all chances of a clear cut winner. if there was one company that could give bluray a run for its money its this one. its a huge blow

Agreed. Considering that the studios stand to sell more with Blu-Ray currently and that there will be GUARANTEED playback devices through the life of the PS3 (regardless of the outcome of the war) means that they are ignoring all that for some reason. Format-neutral provides no risks, so perhaps they were paid off or perhaps they feel that this will give HD-DVD the momentum to more than make up the difference with Blu-Ray disc. Either way, it would have made more sense to sell on Blu-Ray considering that a certain amount of player sales (in the millions) are guaranteed as PS3s throughout the lifetime of the PS3 and that cheap BD players will happen eventually too (shouldn't ignore that).

[ASSPOP]

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6200/lmaopwntwk6.jpg

[MadMax31]

Getting Transformes and Shrek 3 will be a big blow to blue-ray :eek:.

[thebox]

HA HA! Big blow! I here that Disney is next! They just jumped on to XBOX live for downloads, its only a matter of time!

[CZroe]

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 0.
Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.

[[mRg]]

haha .. wonder who dreamworks are partially owned by .. erm .. microsoft .. oh yeah !

[cardboardbox]

Well that evens the field in regards to studio support. One has to wonder why a company would go from supporting both formats to just supporting the one with a smaller installed base now and for the foreseeable future.

[aries2k]

say what you want but this little investment is what just blew all chances of a clear cut winner. if there was one company that could give bluray a run for its money its this one. its a huge blow

I´m sorry to say that I have to agree with you. I don´t think having to formats is going to help the industry or help the adoption rate to HD movies. People are going to be more confused and get fustrated :mad:

[kayjay]

they were paid for going HD-DVD only.
its obvious... but its short sighted.

bluray is here to stay. and i bet it will rule on the pc as the media has more space and there are plenty available burners (starting at 450 usd).

[Banfro]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS3 is dead definetly ...:)

[sigma8]

way to ignore the thread that posted this news on your own forums a good couple hours before you did, Zeus..

Additional info (rumor mill):

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/

[Alastair]

Great news! I'd hate to see Jew-Ray succeeding.

[cardboardbox]

I wonder who HD-DVD is and where they get $150M to pay Paramount/Dreamworks Animation? Is it all of the companies like Toshiba, NEC, MS, etc and are they are writing the checks? Or is there a somewhat independent HD-DVD mgmt that does this?

In any event, I wonder what the Bluray camp's response will be? $150M to Universal? $299 standalone player?

[sigma8]

Great news! I'd hate to see Jew-Ray succeeding.

wtf? Madonna Project's backup account? If religious bigotry is your cup of tea, I should point out Weinstein Bros are HD-DVD exclusive.

Blu-ray is Japanese. Think comfort women.

[geebus]

I knew buying the 360 HD DVD player was the right choice.. EAT CRAP PS3

[sigma8]

I knew buying the 360 HD DVD player was the right choice.. EAT CRAP PS3

Wrong that's still a stupid choice. Get a standalone unit. They don't break down as much, they're quieter, and don't involve dongles.

[kcvfr400]

I knew buying the 360 HD DVD player was the right choice.. EAT CRAP PS3

I could never buy the add on as the 360's sound is tolerable when playing games just about but would ruin a good film that has quiet moments unlike games that tend not too.

[-Solidus-]

Um.. and how many of you are going to run out and buy Shrek 3 and Transformers in a hidef format? you really think your kids are gonna care if its in HD or just on a DVD?

[dcxbox]

this is justa temp thing anyways. bluray has already pretty much won. they need to win few people would want hddvd to win. we dont need another vhs, bluray is better, well bluray has won for game consoles in the future anyways. either bluray will be the standard or the 1TB holodisc will for next gent.

star wars will be the film series to define bluray anyways, fox needs to get them out asap.

[SkynetworX]

Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.

omg thats awesome fucking stupid ... btw. Playstation 3 ist a miserable DVD/BluRay Player ... omg ... how stupid ... awesome!

[grapeape]

umm cool I guess...whatever...doesnt really make me want to go out and get either one but I guess it heats up the war a little bit, glad Speilberg is going for both formats though, that will ensure everyone gets Indy :)

[Oxmyx]

I happened to see all three versions of the same movie at a store this weekend.

$19.99US for the DVD, $24.99US for the Blu-Ray, and $29.99US for the HD-DVD. I personally won't pay more than $20US for any movie. But now I've stopped buying anything thinking I might cheat myself out of having a better copy later.

The sad thing about all this mess is that I can only tell the difference between HD and SD TV if I sit very close to the set. Across the room, on the couch, they look pretty much the same. I will give a little for HDTV and text though, it's much easier to read the titles and sports tickers on HD. Boy was that little feature worth the thousands I've spent in the last year "upgrading" NOT!

Great move Paramount, you're really helping the consumer with higher prices and "more choices".

Shows how little these companies really care about their customers!

Ah yeah, and I own one Blue-Ray disc, the one that came free with my PS3. Well two if you count that one game I have for it too. :)

[cardboardbox]

Ok so here are the official Exclusive studios:

Blu-Ray:
Disney (Buena Vista)
Fox
Lionsgate
MGM
Sony Pictures

HD-DVD :
Universal
Paramount


Wow, so now they have 2 exclusive studios..... congrats. Oh and thats for prolonging a pointless war, AWESOME.........

This is getting ridiculous, only in this time and age do people have to buy 2 different HD receivers in order to watch all of their favorite movie in HD..... so lame.MGM and Lionsgate are too small to matter so its basically 3 vs 2.

[daps83777]

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/state-of-high-definition-whos-winning-the-studio-support-war-291361.php

shows a breakdown of studios for each format. as the article says mgm and fox haven't released a high def movie in months. so its pretty close right now.

[msanchez]

And the plot thickens. As consumers we should all boycott this war, choices are good and all, but having a choice in this matter is not benefiting anyone. Both camps should have made some sort of compromise before all this even started, I would accept HD-DVD the same as I would BD for movies. For games I would rather use BD; although, at the moment it's not doing anything too wow.

The only thing this will do is stretch the war even more; by the time this thing is officially over both formats will probably be obsolete. You gotta figure that 15mbps internet connections will be more common place by then, so downloading movies will probably be a better alternative for some. Anywho I hope that the movie studios realize that the longer this drags on the more money they loose from people that think like me as I will not start building up an HD movie collection without a clear winner.

[cardboardbox]

Well based on your logic it would be 3 vs 1.5 considering the fact that ALL movies directed by STEVEN SPIELBERG were excluded from the EXCLUSIVE deal, so those movies will still be making it to Blu-Ray:D:D:D:D:D:DI suppose thats sort of true. I didnt realize that all his movies were Universal (old ones) or Paramount (newer ones) until I looked them up.

[jerzmob]

BluRay wins in the long run. Paramount and Dreamworks are making big at the moment b/c once HD-DVD dies, since the contract has been made they still have to pay that up. Smooth move M$

[crono]

One fact why hd-dvd will never win in the end, its region free!!!

Hollywood movie makers don't want there movies region free because Europe watchers can then see movies from USA that has have jet to come in the theatres there!!!

[CZroe]

;641894']haha .. wonder who dreamworks are partially owned by .. erm .. microsoft .. oh yeah !

Microsoft is invested in both formats and "wins" no matter who comes out on top. Their reason for supporting HD-DVD more has more to do with subverting the PS3's value for now.

Well that evens the field in regards to studio support. One has to wonder why a company would go from supporting both formats to just supporting the one with a smaller installed base now and for the foreseeable future.

Their motivations are now clear: $150 million from the HD-DVD group. It's hilarious because they were just threatening legal action over Warner's mysterious turn-about when Warner decided to support BD after vehemently opposing its existence. They wanted to subpoena documents to show anti-competitive activity on the part of Sony (looking to see if Sony paid them off).

they were paid for going HD-DVD only.
its obvious... but its short sighted.

bluray is here to stay. and i bet it will rule on the pc as the media has more space and there are plenty available burners (starting at 450 usd).

I know what you mean, and I agree, but I wouldn't say it's "short sighted." They probably looked at how much money they would make on the slow-to-start formats and looked to see how much of that would come from Blu-Ray over the next year and a half (the agreement is only through 2008). They then compared that to how much they will make on HD-DVD and factored in their estimated HD-DVD sales converted from what would have been even more BD sales. If $150 million is enough to more than cover the lost profit, they accept it and hope that their estimates are accurate. Considering that neither format could possibly take off as fast as DVD, they probably made the profitable choice, even if it slows adoption and hold the industry's total profits back. Profit is everything to a studio because they aren't invested in playback devices. Usually, that means that discs sales are all that matter (not player sales) and that's the reason why additional studio support just wasn't going to happen without a pay-off from Toshiba. Toshiba's move just adds to their losses from subsidizing player sales, so they can't keep it up forever. If this doesn't work, consider it a desperation move because they can't afford NOT to.

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 0.
Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.omg thats awesome fucking stupid ... btw. Playstation 3 ist a miserable DVD/BluRay Player ... omg ... how stupid ... awesome!
;)
I can't tell if "ist" means "isn't" or "is" so I'll just say that it's by far the best Blu-Ray player and is the top consideration even as a stand-alone player. My brother works in the cable industry and in home theaters and the vast majority of non-gaming home theaters with Blu-Ray incorporate it with a PS3. Also, it happens to be the best DVD player I own, though I can't stand the stupid piece of junk remote.

BTW, that count includes two bonus discs (Nine Inch Nails, Spiderman 3), each Planet Earth disc separately (because I bought that one from Discovery individually, I count them that way), and it counts the five free ones I have not received yet (on the way; some I plan to get rid of ASAP). Oh, and I do plan on selling a lot of these. What it doesn't count is the fact that I rent them often at Blockbuster and am even renting right now (The Fountain). I have since January 5th. The real reason why I don't own a PS3 game is because I won't consider paying more than $15 for a game if I haven't played the others in the series (and in my backlog) yet and/or the game will only be closer to that price by the time I got around to it. I'm scoring FAR too much for sub-$15 to be worth spending more unless I don't want it spoiled (I'm getting Bioshock for $34.66 on PC... the devs particularly warned against spoilers!).

The ones I plan to get? Heavenly Sword for under $50 (waiting for a deal on God of War II first), Motorstorm for under $25, Resistance: FoM for under $20 (for multi-only as I already rented and beat it), and *POSSIBLY* Stranglehold:CE for nearly full price, though that would go against my tendency to buy any console port available for the PC on that platform (the BD version of Hardboiled included with Stranglehold may sway me). For a time, I considered Half-Life 2 Orange Box because it really is the only PS3 game worth $60, but I own all that except the unreleased Black Box content on PC (HL2 Collector's Edition w/ T-Shirt for $18.96, HL2:EP1 for $6.XX, DoD:S for $7.48, heck, even SiN for $6.XX but that's not in Orange Box). Even if it has KBM controller support, it all comes down to if they remade HL2 with HDR maps or not.

Ok so here are the official Exclusive studios:

Blu-Ray:
Disney (Buena Vista)
Fox
Lionsgate
MGM
Sony Pictures

HD-DVD :
Universal
Paramount


Wow, so now they have 2 exclusive studios..... congrats. Oh and thats for prolonging a pointless war, AWESOME.........

This is getting ridiculous, only in this time and age do people have to buy 2 different HD receivers in order to watch all of their favorite movie in HD..... so lame.

The Weinstein Company may be new/small, but that doesn't keep Blockbuster from parading thier exclusivity agreement (as far as rentals). If BBV thinks it's that important, they are at least important enough to list with HD-DVD there. Besides, their distribution agreements with other studios are quite large! I understand that leaving out Dreamworks/MTV is similar to leaving out Columbia-Tristar from Sony Pictures, so that's entirely OK.

I happened to see all three versions of the same movie at a store this weekend.

$19.99US for the DVD, $24.99US for the Blu-Ray, and $29.99US for the HD-DVD. I personally won't pay more than $20US for any movie. But now I've stopped buying anything thinking I might cheat myself out of having a better copy later.

The sad thing about all this mess is that I can only tell the difference between HD and SD TV if I sit very close to the set. Across the room, on the couch, they look pretty much the same. I will give a little for HDTV and text though, it's much easier to read the titles and sports tickers on HD. Boy was that little feature worth the thousands I've spent in the last year "upgrading" NOT!

Great move Paramount, you're really helping the consumer with higher prices and "more choices".

Shows how little these companies really care about their customers!

Ah yeah, and I own one Blue-Ray disc, the one that came free with my PS3. Well two if you count that one game I have for it too. :)

Yup. That study showing how many PS3 owners have a BD movie excluded those freebies though.

MGM and Lionsgate are too small to matter so its basically 3 vs 2.

MGM has a MASSIVE movie library. Bringing those exclusively to their future disc format is the reason Sony bought the company several years ago. Think about the back-catalog: The Wizard of Oz alone being BD exclusive means alot. Even their theatrical cartoon history: Tom and Jerry collections anyone?

BluRay wins in the long run. Paramount and Dreamworks are making big at the moment b/c once HD-DVD dies, since the contract has been made they still have to pay that up. Smooth move M$

Smooth move Toshiba. MS had nothing to do with this because they win either way (with VC-1 and copy-protection patents in both formats). For the XBOX 360's sake, if makes sense for them to side with HD-DVD for the moment in order to subvert some of the PS3's value, but they really couldn't care less which one we are using several years down the road.

[thebox]

I could never buy the add on as the 360's sound is tolerable when playing games just about but would ruin a good film that has quiet moments unlike games that tend not too.

Just a little tip! Know what you are talking about before you spew! The HD DVD drive is quiet, the loud drives are the ones in the 360 its self, and don't run while you watch HD DVD's!
Thanks for your time!

[xrippa]

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6200/lmaopwntwk6.jpg

Looks like i'll be downloading the x264 rip of that then to play on my ps3 since I was gonna buy the blu-ray version... oh well.

[cardboardbox]

MGM has a MASSIVE movie library. Bringing those exclusively to their future disc format is the reason Sony bought the company several years ago. Think about the back-catalog: The Wizard of Oz alone being BD exclusive means alot. Even their theatrical cartoon history: Tom and Jerry collections anyone?I cant imagine a buyer trying to decide which player to get and being swayed by MGM classics but thats just me.... I'm not a big fan of old movies.

[Trashcat]

Actually the deal Excludes all movies directed by STEVEN SPIELBERG.:D
Oh noes no Schindler's List 2 for me:D

[mysticarcher]

Forget about measly 50 gb blu-ray and 30 gb hd-dvd's, 3.9 TB Holographic versatile disc's for the win! :D

[kcvfr400]

Just a little tip! Know what you are talking about before you spew! The HD DVD drive is quiet, the loud drives are the ones in the 360 its self, and don't run while you watch HD DVD's!
Thanks for your time!

Not talking about the drive I am talking about the chassis fans at the back that are also loud.

[CZroe]

MGM has a MASSIVE movie library. Bringing those exclusively to their future disc format is the reason Sony bought the company several years ago. Think about the back-catalog: The Wizard of Oz alone being BD exclusive means alot. Even their theatrical cartoon history: Tom and Jerry collections anyone?I cant imagine a buyer trying to decide which player to get and being swayed by MGM classics but thats just me.... I'm not a big fan of old movies.

Well, even if the classic James Bond series movies don't appeal, Casino Royale probably does (and the upcoming sequel). MGM is still important!

More new/old MGM stuff:
Rocky series appeals to some while Rocky Balboa appeals to the "new movies only" crowd.
The Pink Panther series appeals to some while I HOPE TO GOD the new Pink Panther (the TERRIBLE 2006 movie) and the 2008 sequel will not!
Stargate appeals to some while the two Stargate SG-1 movies will appeal to others... who am I kidding? They'll all appeal to the same (Stargate's not THAT old).

At their high-point, they released an average of one movie a week. Here is their list of movies from the 2000's alone, but with some titles removed because they don't have home video distribution rights:
Original Sin (2001)
Antitrust (2001)
Josie and the Pussycats (2001)
Hannibal (2001)
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (2001)
Legally Blonde (2001, plus sequel in 2003)
Barbershop (2002)
It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie (2002)
James Bond 007: Die Another Day (2002)
Luther (2003)
Agent Cody Banks (2003, plus sequel in 2004)
Sakura Wars: The Movie (2003)
De-Lovely (2004)
Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London (2004)
Walking Tall (2004)
Swimming Upstream (2005)
Be Cool (2005)
Beauty Shop (2005)
The Brothers Grimm (2005)
Into the Blue (2005)
Night Moves (2005)
Yours, Mine and Ours (2005) (co-production with Paramount Pictures, Nickelodeon Movies, and Columbia Pictures, so I don't know who got distribution rights)
The Amityville Horror (2005)
Dark Angel (2006)
The Pink Panther (2006)
Basic Instinct 2 (2006)
Lucky Number Slevin (2006)
Stormbreaker (2006)
James Bond 007: Casino Royale (2006) (co-production with Columbia Pictures)
Material Girls (2006)
Rocky Balboa (2006)
Flyboys (2006)
Premonition (2007)
School For Scoundrels (2006)
Breaking and Entering (2006)
Honeymoon Criminals (2006)
The Flying Scotsman (2007)
The Ex (2007)
1408 (2007)
Mr. Brooks (2007)
Who's Your Caddy? (2007)
Death at a Funeral (2007)

I've bolded the ones that I think are important to the format whether I like them or not (Nickelodeon movies because it subverts Viacom, "Who's Your Caddy?" because it's currently in theaters and heavily promoted, etc).

[Tridek2]

I'm annoyed by this format war...

WON'T ONE JUST WIN NOW! DAMN IT! :p

[cardboardbox]

Well, even if the classic James Bond series movies don't appeal, Casino Royale probably does (and the upcoming sequel). MGM is still important!ok theres more than I thought but outside the Bond movies, very few of them are blockbusters.

[dc_man]

Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.

No one cares how rich you are faggot.

Now onto the topic, Shrek 3 wasn't very good anyways. But Paramount and Dreamworks..yikes.

[grapeape]

Here's a more complete list sure to flame the fans of format warriors everywhere...if I cared I would join in....:D

Blu-ray

Columbia Pictures
MGM
Disney
Fox
Lionsgate

HD-DVD

Dreamworks
Universal Studios
Paramount
The Weinstein Company/Dimension
Nickelodeon Movies
MTV Films
Wicked Pictures
Pink Visual
Bang Bros.
Digital Playground

Both

HBO
Image Entertainment
Magnolia Pictures
New Line Cinema
Studio Canal
Warner Bros.
Vivid Entertainment

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/state-of-high-definition-whos-winning-the-studio-support-war-291361.php

[Pagala]

Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.

You sir are the definanition of cheap-skate :D But hey guess what I went ahead and bought a ps3 and I own one game and don't plan on buying but maybe one more and one movie before the end of the year. Folding@home ftw, that and ps2 is all i really do on my ps3

[cardboardbox]

Here's a more complete list sure to flame the fans of format warriors everywhere...if I cared I would join in....:D

Blu-ray

Columbia Pictures
MGM
Disney
Fox
Lionsgate

HD-DVD

Dreamworks
Universal Studios
Paramount
The Weinstein Company/Dimension
Nickelodeon Movies
MTV Films
Wicked Pictures
Pink Visual
Bang Bros.
Digital Playground

Both

HBO
Image Entertainment
Magnolia Pictures
New Line Cinema
Studio Canal
Warner Bros.
Vivid Entertainment

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/state-of-high-definition-whos-winning-the-studio-support-war-291361.php

Man, looks like Sony has quit the movie business. :p

But seriously, many of those listed under HDDVD are small... todays news pulls HDDVD pretty close to Bluray. I'll just call their studio support even, though MGM is a little bigger than I thought so it still might be advantage Bluray.

[grapeape]

Man, looks like Sony has quit the movie business. :p

But seriously, many of those listed under HDDVD are small... todays news pulls HDDVD pretty close to Bluray. I'll just call their studio support even, though MGM is a little bigger than I thought so it still might be advantage Bluray.

The small ones would be Nickelodeon Pictures
(Charlotte's Web, Lemony Snicket's A Series Of Unfortunate Events, Nacho Libre, The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, The Spiderwick Chronicles, etc)

and MTV (Napoleon Dynamite, Jackass, Freedom Writers, Husle and Flow, Orange County, Varsity Blues, etc)

The other small ones are the bigger porn studios.

I dont care who wins myself...just listed them as they were posted...but I will say this...Im not a fan of it myself (not prudish just not something im into) but like it or not porn drives video sales...and they are all on HD-DVD with the exception of Vivid. I personally cant see why anyone would want to see some whore's pimpled ass in HD but evidently lots of people do.

[ASSPOP]

Ok so here are the official Exclusive studios:

Blu-Ray:
Disney (Buena Vista)
Fox
Lionsgate
MGM
Sony Pictures

HD-DVD :
Universal
Paramount


Wow, so now they have 2 exclusive studios..... congrats. Oh and thats for prolonging a pointless war, AWESOME.........

This is getting ridiculous, only in this time and age do people have to buy 2 different HD receivers in order to watch all of their favorite movie in HD..... so lame.


LOL i bet this news hit a nerve.... :( hahahha

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[cardboardbox]

The small ones would be Nickelodeon Pictures
(Charlotte's Web, Lemony Snicket's A Series Of Unfortunate Events, Nacho Libre, The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, The Spiderwick Chronicles, etc)

and MTV (Napoleon Dynamite, Jackass, Freedom Writers, Husle and Flow, Orange County, Varsity Blues, etc)

The other small ones are the bigger porn studios.

I dont care who wins myself...just listed them as they were posted...but I will say this...Im not a fan of it myself (not prudish just not something im into) but like it or not porn drives video sales...and they are all on HD-DVD with the exception of Vivid. I personally cant see why anyone would want to see some whore's pimpled ass in HD but evidently lots of people do.a lot of people say thats why vhs won but porn was on betamax also. Way more people get their porn off the web than will buy it so I'm thinking the porn industry will make far less of a difference than the movie studios.

And you still didnt add Sony to your list.

[buddha]

"The CEO of Paramount revealed that the move comes as the company believes HD-DVD is the most affordable high quality choice for consumers and a 'smart choice' for Paramount."

They should leave the choice to the customers instead of talking bullsh1t :rolleyes:

[grapeape]

For HD-DVD you listed 2 porn studios..... as far as I am concerned "College Wild Parties" and "Bang Bus" are not movies, they are amateur porn, so you can take Bang bros. and Pink visual off the list. The rest of the studios you named are small studios which are mostly owned by Paramount and Universal. So based on your logic you should add all the sub studios owned by Sony and others like Tristar and such.

Sorry I didnt even know what they were I just typed in the list I found at gizmondo. Nickelodeon and MTV are mainly up and coming, but MTV has actually had more films in the past 3 years than lionsgate so I left them in. Your right though, Columbia/Tristar should be listed as well.

[xrippa]

For HD-DVD you listed 2 porn studios..... as far as I am concerned "College Wild Parties" and "Bang Bus" are not movies, they are amateur porn, so you can take Bang bros. and Pink visual off the list. The rest of the studios you named are small studios which are mostly owned by Paramount and Universal. So based on your logic you should add all the sub studios owned by Sony and others like Tristar and such.

4 porn studios... and pron distribution doesnt even matter anyways.... the internet is for porn :D

[ASSPOP]

"The CEO of Paramount revealed that the move comes as the company believes HD-DVD is the most affordable high quality choice for consumers and a 'smart choice' for Paramount."

They should leave the choice to the customers instead of talking bullsh1t :rolleyes:

Just like how sony forces blu ray onto their customers? :rolleyes:

[russcarr]

Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.

How the hell do you have time to play all your games if you buy 7 a week? I think 7 games would almost last me a year! Do you have a life?

[segaman1977]

I can't believe people are assuming the HD war is already decided. It is still way to early to make such assumptions. Since HD is an insignificant percentage of overall media sales, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are still in the really in the "investment" stage. Most of your casual gamers are going to view the PS3 as a gaming machine, subconsciously forgetting about the movie playback capability. Even with the PS2 and its DVD playback, there was an initial interest in DVD due to DVD itself being a new technology, but as standalone players became more of a common household item, the PS2's DVD playback function became more of a gimmicky feature than a powerful selling point. The same will eventually be the case with Blu-Ray, whether it wins or not. Standalone players will dictate the market. Whoever can create the value player and aggressively push them at mass retailers, (Wal-Mart), will win. Right now HD-DVD has a better position for that type of scenario. Despite Blu-Ray having more studio backing, Universal and Warner does own some of the highest grossing DVD movies such as the Matrix, Shrek 2, Lord of the Rings. Having an extended battle will force more titles out into the market. This is not a bad thing. I say let'em battle till somebody sells an APEX HD player for $30 :D

[CZroe]

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 0.
Great point. Let me see if I can counter it:

geuss how many blu ray films i own! 23. geuss how many i plan on owning! MORE.

geuss how many PS3 games i own! 0. geuss how many i plan on owning! 3.

I'm an early PS3 owner who currently has TWO PS3s (I just couldn't resist a second PS3 and 5-free BD movies for $400... I can ditch the second but I'd rather wait and see if a firmware hack makes it necessary to ditch the other). I'm also an extreme gamer who buys well over seven games a week (I started this week with a bang... 8 games and I still haven't bought Bioshock!), but the extreme cheap-skate in me refuses to consider any current PS3 game worth the prices I can get them for. Enchanted Arms isn't even worth $14.No one cares how rich you are faggot.

Now onto the topic, Shrek 3 wasn't very good anyways. But Paramount and Dreamworks..yikes.

Rich? I said I'm a cheapskate. I work 24hrs a week (two 12hr shifts) for $9.20 an hour and I get NO additional income. I've worked the same job for the last seven years and I recently graduated with two degrees in June. In fact, until about three months ago, I spent years paying my mother's rent and bills while going to school full-time and working those same 24hrs until she got a social security check with back-pay and paid down the massive debt I generated while supporting her. Now, her contribution is pittence and all I can do is hope my two degrees will land me something that pays better than Geek Squad (they are BEGGING for me). I can't afford expensive games, but I find a way to get the things that I want because I have a passion that I expect to turn into a career. THAT's why I follow the news, THAT's why I participate in forums, THAT's why I own a 1080p XBR television and a PS3, THAT's why I have a Quad-Core PC with SLI: I want to be the authority on all things gaming and technology. I was simply reporting that my statistics AS A[N UBER?]GAMER do not line up with his, so I'm providing the same information he is so that people do not think that he is representative of the typical PS3 owner (nor that I am).

You sir are the definanition of cheap-skate :D But hey guess what I went ahead and bought a ps3 and I own one game and don't plan on buying but maybe one more and one movie before the end of the year. Folding@home ftw, that and ps2 is all i really do on my ps3

Hey, bru! Yeah, exactly: Until I complete the bulk of my PS2 library, what business do I have spending more on PS3 games that'll only be cheaper by that time?

Are you getting your five-free BD movies or did you buy used? I guess you didn't want my second one at-cost. :)

Here's a more complete list sure to flame the fans of format warriors everywhere...if I cared I would join in....:D

Blu-ray

Columbia Pictures
MGM
Disney
Fox
Lionsgate

HD-DVD

Dreamworks
Universal Studios
Paramount
The Weinstein Company/Dimension
Nickelodeon Movies
MTV Films
Wicked Pictures
Pink Visual
Bang Bros.
Digital Playground

Both

HBO
Image Entertainment
Magnolia Pictures
New Line Cinema
Studio Canal
Warner Bros.
Vivid Entertainment

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/format-war/state-of-high-definition-whos-winning-the-studio-support-war-291361.php

You forgot Tristar, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, and Miramax on Blu-Ray. Probably more too.

[jerrykun]

I couldn't care less about Shrek III... but Dreamworks and Universal do have excellent back catalogs that I do care about. And Transformers is a blow, despite what others seem to think of it, I enjoyed it and was stoked for the Blu-Ray release.

Anyone with doubts about the PS3's Blu-Ray or upscaled DVD playback has never seen it in action. It looks fantastic.

[twootwoot]

MGM has a MASSIVE movie library. Bringing those exclusively to their future disc format is the reason Sony bought the company several years ago. Think about the back-catalog: The Wizard of Oz alone being BD exclusive means alot. Even their theatrical cartoon history: Tom and Jerry collections anyone?

You're wrong. Technically outdated for almost 20 years. Ted Turner bought the old pre-1986 MGM catalog. It was a huge entertainment story in the 80s which is why Tom and Jerry appeared on TBS/Cartoon Network. (both used to own by Turner) The old MGM catalog is now owned by Time Warner. (a supporter of the two formats)

[grapeape]

The area where I see this having the most impact is actually Television Series

Paramount:
NBC, Bravo, Chiller, CNBC, CNBC World, MSNBC, mun2, Sci Fi, ShopNBC, Telemundo, Sleuth, USA Network, A&E, the History Channel, History Channel International, the Biography Channel, National Geographic International, the Sundance Channel.

Universal:
CBS, CMT, CMT Pure Country, Comedy Central, Logo, MHD, MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tempo, MTV Tr3́s, mtvU, The N, Nickelodeon/Nick-at-Nite/Nick Jr., Nick Too, Nick GAS, Nicktoons Network, Noggin, Spike, TV Land, TV Land Canada, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul, VH1 Uno

Thats an awful big chunk of TV. Just for recent shows that gives HD-DVD Heroes, Law & Order, ER, Scrubs, 30 Rock, CSI, Jerico, Criminal Minds, Stargate, Monk, Ghost Whisperer, South Park, The 4400, Dead Zone, Numbers, La Femme Nikita, Dreseden Files, Eureka, Battlestar Galactica and of course the oldies like Star Trek, etc...

[danight]

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Thats the reason il will buy a hd-dvd drive.
This is extremly good news for hd-dvd people, extremely bad for the blu-ray camp

[twootwoot]

The area where I see this having the most impact is actually Television Series

Paramount:
NBC, Bravo, Chiller, CNBC, CNBC World, MSNBC, mun2, Sci Fi, ShopNBC, Telemundo, Sleuth, USA Network, A&E, the History Channel, History Channel International, the Biography Channel, National Geographic International, the Sundance Channel.

Universal:
CBS, CMT, CMT Pure Country, Comedy Central, Logo, MHD, MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tempo, MTV Tr3́s, mtvU, The N, Nickelodeon/Nick-at-Nite/Nick Jr., Nick Too, Nick GAS, Nicktoons Network, Noggin, Spike, TV Land, TV Land Canada, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul, VH1 Uno

Thats an awful big chunk of TV. Just for recent shows that gives HD-DVD Heroes, Law & Order, ER, Scrubs, 30 Rock, CSI, Jerico, Criminal Minds, Stargate, Monk, Ghost Whisperer, South Park, The 4400, Dead Zone, Numbers, La Femme Nikita, Dreseden Files, Eureka, Battlestar Galactica and of course the oldies like Star Trek, etc...


Ummm...you're getting American media corporations ownership wrong. (mostly need to switch) Also outdated. Universial, which is part of General Electric, operates NBC, USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel. Viacom (Paramount) owns MTV Networks which includes Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and VH1. CBS Corporation now operates CBS after being part of Viacom for several years. CBS is not part of the new Viacom. If you want to learn more, Wikipedia ain't bad to catch up for summary. History Channel and A&E although partly owned by GE is majority owned/controlled by the Hearst Corporation.

[CZroe]

How the hell do you have time to play all your games if you buy 7 a week? I think 7 games would almost last me a year! Do you have a life?

Sadly, I don't. I live in a fantasy world where I imagine that one day I'd be rich and able to play them all! Until then, I just imainge that I'd never be able to find them for these prices and so they are needed for the collection. :) I didn't pay more than $11 for any of the ones I bought so far this week, though most are still in stores for $35 (DS games).

You're wrong. Technically outdated for almost 20 years. Ted Turner bought the old pre-1986 MGM catalog. It was a huge entertainment story in the 80s which is why Tom and Jerry appeared on TBS/Cartoon Network. (both used to own by Turner) The old MGM catalog is now owned by Time Warner. (a supporter of the two formats)

Ah! Perhaps it was more for the PR "win" of making people think that they have MGM's historical library. You think?

The area where I see this having the most impact is actually Television Series

Paramount:
NBC, Bravo, Chiller, CNBC, CNBC World, MSNBC, mun2, Sci Fi, ShopNBC, Telemundo, Sleuth, USA Network, A&E, the History Channel, History Channel International, the Biography Channel, National Geographic International, the Sundance Channel.

Universal:
CBS, CMT, CMT Pure Country, Comedy Central, Logo, MHD, MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tempo, MTV Tr3́s, mtvU, The N, Nickelodeon/Nick-at-Nite/Nick Jr., Nick Too, Nick GAS, Nicktoons Network, Noggin, Spike, TV Land, TV Land Canada, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul, VH1 Uno

Thats an awful big chunk of TV. Just for recent shows that gives HD-DVD Heroes, Law & Order, ER, Scrubs, 30 Rock, CSI, Jerico, Criminal Minds, Stargate, Monk, Ghost Whisperer, South Park, The 4400, Dead Zone, Numbers, La Femme Nikita, Dreseden Files, Eureka, Battlestar Galactica and of course the oldies like Star Trek, etc...

At least FOX is in charge of House M.D. - The only TV series I'd consider on BD. ;) Edit: OWATE! I just remember that my House M.D. DVDs had the Universal "Jumping Boy" protection and a Universal logo, so let's just hope that FOX has home distribution rights (judging by the on-box ads, I imagine that they do).

[grapeape]

Ummm...you're getting American media corporations ownership wrong. (mostly need to switch) Also outdated. Universial, which is part of General Electric, operates NBC, USA Network, Sci-Fi Channel. Viacom (Paramount) owns MTV Networks which includes Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and VH1. CBS Corporation now operates CBS after being part of Viacom for several years. CBS is not part of the new Viacom. If you want to learn more, Wikipedia ain't bad to catch up for summary. History Channel and A&E although partly owned by GE is majority owned/controlled by the Hearst Corporation.

Yep got those mixed up, thanks, cbs paramount though still handles their television distribution though so other than the History Channel & A&E (which should get interesting..doesnt disney own a bit of them too??) the point still remains that those will generally go with HD-DVD by association.

[twootwoot]

At least FOX is in charge of House M.D. - The only TV series I'd consider on BD. ;)

Okay this has to be the last post from me. I notice I'm growing way too nerdy. Although the Fox Network airs House M.D. It doesn't own the rights to it. House M.D. is owned/copyrighted by NBC Universal. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_M.D.#Production) Not all shows air on certain networks own by the respective companies. Another example, Buffy the Vampire Slayer is owned by Fox but it didn't originally air in it. (The WB and UPN)

[twootwoot]

Yep got those mixed up, thanks, cbs paramount though still handles their television distribution though so other than the History Channel & A&E (which should get interesting..doesnt disney own a bit of them too??) the point still remains that those will generally go with HD-DVD by association.

A&E is co-owned by Disney and Hearst. Thanks for the correction.

[psychospeedster]

you ps3 queers are hilarious. you see a statement such as 95% of all ps3 owners own atleast 1 bluray movie and 45% of ps3 owners own more than 5, and u start going "yea blugay is awesome" forgetting that all of those were given free. And before hd-dvd started the same promotion it was behind bluray by about 5-10% on each of the above and those movies were actually paid for.

I dont believe they included the one free bluray movie in with the survey. It was movies bought, not owned.

[twoeleven]

=) I love it.

[Mikeyy]

What the heck are you HDDVD XBOTS blabbing about? Paramount was Paid $150.000.000 for a PROMOTIONAL PERIOD, this is temporary.

Also HD has 2 exclusive companies, Blu-Ray has 4.

Also the paramount Deal EXCLUDES STEVEN SPIELBERG! OWNED!!

HDdvd is still dead. The entire entertainment media is laughing at paramount right now.

[grapeape]

What the heck are you HDDVD XBOTS blabbing about? Paramount was Paid $150.000.000 for a PROMOTIONAL PERIOD, this is temporary.

Also HD has 2 exclusive companies, Blu-Ray has 4.

Also the paramount Deal EXCLUDES STEVEN SPIELBERG! OWNED!!

HDdvd is still dead. The entire entertainment media is laughing at paramount right now.

Who's ass did you pull that out of? There is one rumor that started here http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/ that there was money involved, but nowhere have I seen an article that said this was some temporary promotion....please cite a reference thats actually reputable.

In the meantime you might want to read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Dueling-DVD-Formats.html?ex=1345262400&en=4da66f6caca393b6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

BTW how many movies has Spielberg released on a HD platform? None. And how many Spielberg releases are on the release calendar up throuh the first quarter of 2008? 1, Close Encounters. Kind of a non-issue at this point.

Why in the hell would $150 million sway two studios anyway...thats not even enough to finance one Hollywood blockbuster. There is alot more to this story, supposedly reasons that will be come to light around the 23rd of November.

[Xenontc]

Who's ass did you pull that out of? There is one rumor that started here http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/ that there was money involved, but nowhere have I seen an article that said this was some temporary promotion....please cite a reference thats actually reputable.

In the meantime you might want to read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Dueling-DVD-Formats.html?ex=1345262400&en=4da66f6caca393b6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

BTW how many movies has Spielberg released on a HD platform? None. And how many Spielberg releases are on the release calendar up throuh the first quarter of 2008? 1, Close Encounters. Kind of a non-issue at this point.

Why in the hell would $150 million sway two studios anyway...thats not even enough to finance one Hollywood blockbuster. There is alot more to this story, supposedly reasons that will be come to light around the 23rd of November.

No reason at all to get worked up over a comment like that one, all it is, is some 10 year old who worships his PS3 and is just angry that he won't get to watch Shrek 3 in HD on his PS3. lol.

[cardboardbox]

Who's ass did you pull that out of? There is one rumor that started here http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/desperation-move-cash-grab-or-intensified-blu-rayhd-dvd-format-war/ that there was money involved, but nowhere have I seen an article that said this was some temporary promotion....please cite a reference thats actually reputable.

In the meantime you might want to read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Dueling-DVD-Formats.html?ex=1345262400&en=4da66f6caca393b6&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

BTW how many movies has Spielberg released on a HD platform? None. And how many Spielberg releases are on the release calendar up throuh the first quarter of 2008? 1, Close Encounters. Kind of a non-issue at this point.

Why in the hell would $150 million sway two studios anyway...thats not even enough to finance one Hollywood blockbuster. There is alot more to this story, supposedly reasons that will be come to light around the 23rd of November.actually thats more than enough to finance one big movie. A lot of talk of paramount/dreamworks releasing on HDDVD exclusively through 2008 with no guarantee after that... When all the business smarts says why would you go exclusive to the losing format you have to believe that a good chunk of cash just changed hands.

[sens8]

EDITED ...For too many F words.

[flightx]

am I wrong in thinking that at the start on this format war both had exclusive backing from the companies they have now? it was just that paramount shifted to a non-exclusive stance halfway through?

[Banfro]

Wrong that's still a stupid choice. Get a standalone unit. They don't break down as much, they're quieter, and don't involve dongles.

you are stupid , who the **** is watching movies on konzoles, ps3 is dead

[Frak-Frakistan]

you are stupid , who the **** is watching movies on konzoles, ps3 is dead

mother fuc**r if anyone is dead thats you,the ps3 is alive and kicking your and every xbots ass.

[kcvfr400]

The area where I see this having the most impact is actually Television Series

Paramount:
NBC, Bravo, Chiller, CNBC, CNBC World, MSNBC, mun2, Sci Fi, ShopNBC, Telemundo, Sleuth, USA Network, A&E, the History Channel, History Channel International, the Biography Channel, National Geographic International, the Sundance Channel.

Universal:
CBS, CMT, CMT Pure Country, Comedy Central, Logo, MHD, MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tempo, MTV Tr3́s, mtvU, The N, Nickelodeon/Nick-at-Nite/Nick Jr., Nick Too, Nick GAS, Nicktoons Network, Noggin, Spike, TV Land, TV Land Canada, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul, VH1 Uno

Thats an awful big chunk of TV. Just for recent shows that gives HD-DVD Heroes, Law & Order, ER, Scrubs, 30 Rock, CSI, Jerico, Criminal Minds, Stargate, Monk, Ghost Whisperer, South Park, The 4400, Dead Zone, Numbers, La Femme Nikita, Dreseden Files, Eureka, Battlestar Galactica and of course the oldies like Star Trek, etc...

Sorry to correct you but stargate sg-1 and atlantis will be blu-ray exclusives as they are mgm trademarks made by sci-fi but mgm own the rights still and so being owned by sony its ovious and scrubs dvd's are buena vista or disney so blu-ray aswell I would think.

[Xenogears V]

Who care?, It is a movie's sh*t!.

[Punyetta]

Who care?, It is a movie's sh*t!.

It wouldn't be if it was BlueRay though. Fanboy.

BTW, Both formats going to stay for a while and there will be players capable playing both.

[whackawookie]

its obviously easy to spot when a fanboy dispute is brewing. you see the same people throwing around the xbot term and start cursing up a storm. its getting very immature everytime a front page post is opened

[Rockman_Joey]

You might wanna read this news, Michael Bay who directed the Transformers Movie isn't happy with Paramount's decision to go HD-DVD exclusive.
Link - Michael Bay Responds to Paramount's Decision: "No Transformers 2 for me! (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=415)

And NY Times has confirmed that $150 Million Payout to Paramount and Dreamworks and the deal is for 18 months

Link - NY Times Confirms $150M Pay-off to Paramount (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=416)

Interesting, so it was for the boost of HD-DVD, I really am wondering how the Blu Ray Assocation are going to respond?

[Frak-Frakistan]

overall after reading and researching and opening all the links provided(god i love the ppl of this community may it be the xbots or PS boys).I have come to the conclusion that this deal will have no significant impact on the sales of bluray discs or bluray players(ps3 included obviously)

and losing Micheal bay and non Spielberg hddvd exclusive,it sounds like 150 million going down the drain.

and in the end no matter what anyone says,microsoft or the hddvd group

THEY ARE IN CONTEST WITH BLURAY AND THE ONLY REASON MICRoSHIT CHOSE HDDVD WAS BECAUSE SONY CHOSE BLURAY.

microsoft does not give a f*ck about giving customers the latest and cutting edge technology.they just want to make a profit,which they have been trying for the last 7 years

[kcvfr400]

Reading bay's comments on the link is interesting as have paramount excepted $150m to lose maybe $200m - $500m on a new transformers film, and I like his attitude that paramount should support both formats just so fans get to see it in hd whoever they are.

Though on a side note speilberg films are not part of this deal so does that means indiana jones films will come out on both formats as speilberg directed them all, which is good news for us the buyers whatever format you have.

[MadMax31]

You all fanboys are coming to conclusions way to early, don't you think that the real media groups (Blue-ray group or the HD-DVD group) know what they are doing?, the have analysts, and marketing experts, they are not going to forge $150 million , just to see what happens.

Also it's not like a desperate move (unlike the price cut of the PS3 from sony :p) to gain base, the real competition as someone said it's DVD.

The other formats are really beginning, and only early adopters (and fanboys of course :D) are supporting them.