New Wii Firmware update bricking moded Wii consoles?

[Zeus]

Earlier on, Nintendo took down their shopping channel for approximately 3 hours and it has returned with a new look. A new firmware update on the Wii adds many a small feature and arugably an increase in the speed of the UI. There is also a message which has something to the effect that if you have modded your Wii, then your console may be disabled or lock up! If you want to avoid this update, then you will have to power down the system.

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After you update and go back to the update section to before a "test update" you will be greeted with a message that says something to effect that if you have a modified Wii your console may be disabled or lock up. Mod Chippers owned? If you want to cancel you have to power down your system.


News Source: <a href="http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=12114" target="_blank">Vooks.net</a>

[akayfortyseven]

*unplugs wiifree*

I wonder if I update without the mod, then after its installed, plug it back in, would that work?

[Mithos]

3.0 locks out SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs, they don't boot anymore.

[Zak]

3.0 locks out SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs, they don't boot anymore.
So you think they are refering to those "software" solutions? That would mean modchip owners are not affected. Can anybody confirm?

[whackawookie]

So you think they are refering to those "software" solutions? That would mean modchip owners are not affected. Can anybody confirm?

i got a better question, what does this update do? do we need the update to use virtual console shopping and crap or is it like the ps3 and 360 where if you dont update your beat

[Mithos]

Wii firmware 3.0 changes (thats known so far)

Channels:
-Digital Clock added to the Wii Menu right under the channel bar
-Forecast Channel now displays the current condition (cloudy, raining, etc.) directly in the Wii Menu in the Forecast Channel box
-News Channel can now show 2 scrolling headlines at a time in the Wii Menu, 3 when you click on the button (supposedly this requires occasional downloading of the headlines to keep the ticker updated)
-Message Board now has the "Today's Accomplishments" message as a white message which allows it to stand out from other messages
-Address Book entries can now be shifted around using A+B (supposed to be a launch feature) but only to empty spaces. Not too convenient.
-Calendar in Message Board no longer shows "Today's Accomplishment" only days as having messages
-Scrolling messages in the Message Board now uses a different sound

Wii Shop Channel Overhauled (Visual aesthetic is the same, changes made to organization and browsing methods mostly)
-New Welcome screen detailing 4 Recommended Titles and the points they cost (gone is the title screen bar that had linkable games). The title bar can be clicked on to bring up a list of 20 recommended games.
-Titles You've Downloaded was moved to the main shop menu
-New ways to browse
-Popular Titles (2 pages of 10 and includes launch games so not only based on recent info)
-Newest Additions remains the same
-Search for a title which can use partial names
-Search by Category
-System shows the different systems and how many titles have been released under each
-Publisher showing different publishers and amount of titles released (Nice logos!)
-Genre (different genres listed and amount of titles under each)

Settings
-Warning added pre-system update detailing that technically modified consoles may cease to function upon being updated. Also the only way to not accept an update is to power down the console by holding the button for 4 seconds (the user can't back out of hitting I Accept w/o powering down)

List taken from someone else forumpost somewhere else (it not mine)

[felixm477]

3.0 locks out SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs, they don't boot anymore.
thats probably due to the fact action replay and most cheating game discs use "other" methods to boot. i believe the ps2 versions used crazy taxi and some crafty workarounds to direct boot without being stamped?

[felixm477]

well atleast nintendo has taken measure to prevent their forum from being overrun with "my xxx chip doesnt work after update help!" lol

[panyan1991]

i wont uprade unless *ABSOLUTELY* necessary, as long as i can play my backups, im not fussed

[WhiteDog]

i wont uprade unless *ABSOLUTELY* necessary, as long as i can play my backups, im not fussed

And how long before some game will require this firmware to work? Start worrying now...

Has anyone actually TESTED if your Wii will be bricked?

[IBNobody]

I can confirm that 3.0U does not lock out WiiKey consoles. Backups play fine, although I had a DRE right after I rebooted. I had to eject and insert the disk to get it to play.

But they still haven't fixed that $#%# WiiConnect24 problem. Instead they added extra error codes to News/Weather. NEWS00001!

[panyan1991]

^whitedog:

i'm just wishing that update blocker will continue to work!


can someone please test out a cyclowiz

[WhiteDog]

^whitedog:

i'm just wishing that update blocker will continue to work!
can someone please test out a cyclowiz

Yes but they can design a game so that it actually checks for what firmware is installed. Or use functions from a newer firmware so that the games does not play because it needs some feauture in the new firmware...

Lets just hope the wikkey / cyclowiz dudes can come up with some better stealth firmware...

[chromium]

3.0 locks out SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs, they don't boot anymore.

My Freeloader no longer boots, neither does the Wiikey setup disc :(

Looks like I don't really care for the Wiikey update anymore as I doubt it will load on my Wii and all my GC games are NTSC which don't play properly without Freeloader.

Oh well, time to get the GC modded I guess.

[IBNobody]

Also, a GCOS multi-boot disk works with WiiKey and 3.0U.

It looks like they just locked out non-drivechip solutions.

[manias]

My Freeloader no longer boots, neither does the Wiikey setup disc :(

Looks like I don't really care for the Wiikey update anymore as I doubt it will load on my Wii and all my GC games are NTSC which don't play properly without Freeloader.

Oh well, time to get the GC modded I guess.
yer gc games should work fine without freeloader on gcos I think? Isn't freeloader just for non-modded consoles.. :P

[PSPWAD]

Also, a GCOS multi-boot disk works with WiiKey and 3.0U.

It looks like they just locked out non-drivechip solutions.
Who would have thought...Nintendo pushing Modchip sales...LOL!

[Zak]

I think its good that they are honest and upfront about it. They don't hide it as a *security fix* like Sony does for the PSP.
At least people know that their modding solutions may not work. A cancel button would have been nice but still... nice move.

[Brandogg]

Cyclowiz 2.0 with 3.0 update still works fine, with the latest update.

[TheClockWork]

Worked flawless with my WiiKey (PAL)

[Matrixxx]

Anybody tried with a Wiinja Deluxe (PAL)?

Thanks

[Kehoku]

wiinja works :) ntsc. Not sure if i have the deluxe or not but on their forums it said it was ok to update and I did.

A side note you can use action replay disks if you boot it with the wiinja gamecube disk loader. Tested it on mario sunshine and still works!

just in case some were wondering. It WILL NOT boot normaly though like it used to from the wii menu, you must use the disk. But its the only issue i've had so far.

[chromium]

yer gc games should work fine without freeloader on gcos I think? Isn't freeloader just for non-modded consoles.. :P

Correct, I just tried GCOS 0.3 and it booted fine.
Good stuff!

[Cloudkill]

Ok I have a Cyclowiz on V1 firmware I'm one of those people who just didn’t want to install the switch, and I didn’t get the warning about modded consoles! It just let me run a system update, and I have Wiiconnect24 running.

Ok my backup of Resident Evil 4 runs fine, and I’ve noticed now that when you eject the DVD it shows the blue light.

I don't have a Max media lancher to test but I don't think it will work now, also I have a PAL console.

[Xenogears V]

Too funny, brick firmware!.:D :D :D

[gcmospeada]

does anyonw know if i will be able to update if i have a Wiifree home made chip? and what version of wiifree should i use?

thanks.

[zipped123]

I can also confirm that it works on PAL Wii's with WiiKey!

Did not experience any problems at all and backups are running just fine. Loading times have become a tiny bit faster tho :p

[redsquirrell]

apparently wiifree's do not work. Dont install if you have one, at least until more news comes out..

[confused_dude]

Will I be able to update with a partially bricked console?? You know where you have the web page instead of system settings!! Thanks

[ninjya]

Everything still works perfect for me.
The only ones I've seen having trouble are Wii's that havnt been modded correctly, bad soldering etc. And not because the update really but because shorts.

[morp]

I CAN CONFIRM WORKING :

Wiikey PAL WORKS

Wii backups - WORKS
Gamecube Backups - WORKS
Mutli Disk - WORKS
Emulators - WORKS

[creison]

Console wii NTSC-u version with external mod , using socket for pics (12F629).
What i did is:
Turn on my wii without any modchip in socket.
Update to 3.0u.
Turn OFF and place a pic with (WiiFree_2_51) and boots ok but non of the 6 games i have try worked !
Turn OFF and place a pic with (WiiNja_v2) and boots ALL of the games!:D
Conclusion i get is wiifree team have some work to do :D
Thank u ALL!
PEACE!

[DaFireStarter]

Don't care because Wii online absolutely blows with rehashed vc games and no support for online games so as long as they don't make me update via disk I'll live.

[djhazee]

I have a wiifree 2.45 and upgraded with the chip still installed, backups still work for me, as well as online play. Stop scarring people.

Also, If the wiikey update disk doesnt work anymore I find that hilarious, if they dont come out with a working update disk then looks like they are SOL with their buisness.

[manias]

I have a wiifree 2.45 and upgraded with the chip still installed, backups still work for me, as well as online play. Stop scarring people.

Also, If the wiikey update disk doesnt work anymore I find that hilarious, if they dont come out with a working update disk then looks like they are SOL with their buisness.
all update discs work fine if u just run gcos first

[omega59]

This is all the update offers.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/nintendo/wii-gets-a-firmware-update-1-feature-is-a-clock-286691.php

[creison]

djhazee Im just info whats happen with me !

[flip1976]

Hi,

Works here,pal wii with firmware 3.0e and cyclowiz v3.5 firmware

[Inferno_20]

I updated my Wii to the new firmware and my Cyclowiz still works fine.

[getsomefood]

Do i need a GC controller to use GCOS?

[nitsud707]

all update discs work fine if u just run gcos first

can u please explain this for me im a noob. i think u mean gamecube operating system but i have no clue how to do this to get my wiikey setup disc to work.

[manias]

can u please explain this for me im a noob. i think u mean gamecube operating system but i have no clue how to do this to get my wiikey setup disc to work.
GCOS is a simple menu that u can burn on a disc basically.. and if u boot that as an ngc game, you can then in that menu get it to load another disc (eject gcos disc n insert the other)
google gcos :) (the letters stand for gamecube operating system yeah but just search for gcos)

[redsquirrell]

after update, i have 2 weather and 2 news channels!!!

[maxo777]

the fan works in stand by now

[halomasta203]

the fan works in stand by now

Really? I'm suprised they haven't posted that anywhere else when they listed all the improvements/updates. That is a huge update. Thats why I had to get a replacement; gpu overheating.

[instigator]

I will not be installing this update any time soon and I would urge anyone else to do the same. Looks like interesting times ahead :)

[MisterXausDE]

the fan works in stand by now

Is not correct!

[msaraiva]

the fan works in stand by now

No, it doesn't.

(3.0E / PAL)

[nitsud707]

GCOS is a simple menu that u can burn on a disc basically.. and if u boot that as an ngc game, you can then in that menu get it to load another disc (eject gcos disc n insert the other)
google gcos :) (the letters stand for gamecube operating system yeah but just search for gcos)

ok i downloaded gcos 1.5 from gamecubeos.com but im stll unsure about stuff. which file do i burn to a disc? how do i make it a GC game so it loads?

[Coolza]

Hey I have a Wiikey in my Wii and I want to know if I can update this safely.

[lithium210]

does this mean you cant use a gecko anymore after the update??

[NeverX]

I'm also interested in knowing the steps necessary to take to create a GCOS disc that'll be purely used only to switch over to the Wiikey setup disc. The readme file isn't very newbie friendly at all.

[qwwq]

damnit, the action replay doesn't work with this update! stupid update, you are dead to me update.:mad:

[HUYI]

can anyone test:

action replay backup of version 1.14b PAL on a PAL Wii system with Wiikey installed.
action replay version 1.06 PAL on a PAL Wii system with Wiikey installed.
action replay gamecube compatible with the Wii version 1.0E PAL on a PAL system with Wiikey installed.

and test this all on the latest 3.0E firmware and post the results please? thanks, i will not update unless i know that all of this lot works fine on the latest firmware!

[manias]

the fan works in stand by now
did you test it? others say this is not true

[Lok1]

I will not be installing this update any time soon and I would urge anyone else to do the same. Looks like interesting times ahead :)

Why???????

[manias]

ok i downloaded gcos 1.5 from gamecubeos.com but im stll unsure about stuff. which file do i burn to a disc? how do i make it a GC game so it loads?
I haven't tried it yet, check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_Ld-VDqII

I'm guessing you get an iso from gamecubeos.com ? just burn that n do as the video?

[Icefeldt]

Someone hast a WIID Modchip?

[|greatTeacher|]

wiikey dvd config disk don't work :'(

[Coolza]

Hey I really need to know if it is safe for me to update my Wii, I have a Wiikey installed in it and I really don't want to brick it.
Anyone test it?

[x_water]

I updated my Wii to the new firmware and my Cyclowiz still works fine.

which cyclowiz do u have? i have the very first batch shipped out and i haven't updated it yet.so i basically have cycowiz v1

[halomasta203]

wiikey dvd config disk don't work :'(

That is the only thing that I have heard so far that would make me not update.

[Happsai]

Hey I really need to know if it is safe for me to update my Wii, I have a Wiikey installed in it and I really don't want to brick it.
Anyone test it?
In the time between your two postings of the same question you could have read the answer four or five times in this thread.

[x_water]

I updated my Wii to the new firmware and my Cyclowiz still works fine.

which versoin of cyclowiz? does it work with the first versoin?

[manias]

That is the only thing that I have heard so far that would make me not update.
it works fine with gcos

[hoonboy]

Works fine for my wii (PAL) with DMS chip and Cyclowiz V1 firmware 3.0:)

[x_water]

does it work with ntsc-u cyclowiz version 1? has any1 tested it?

[sho100]

Hi guys, can anyone tell if a wiikey clone will work after installing the latest 3.0 update. thank:)

[LordWill0722]

Hey guys, just tried the update on my wiinja deluxe. worked fine. tried to get another update and got that warning message lol. so i think it's just a message for further updates. weather/news channel, pretty sweet. digi clock nice touch. like the blue light when inserting/ejecting games.

Once again Confirmed

Wiinja Deluxe
NTSC Wii
New F/W 3.0U

[picopir8]

wiikey dvd config disk don't work :'(

Great. This should push off the wiikey update by a good 6 months or so while they develop a new update program.

[inde]

work fine on my pal wii with wiikey.
setup disc dont work but i loaded it with gcos and all is ok, can still use the wiikey settings menu, sdload etc.
as long as it can still be booted, it will do for me

[rawheadREX]

Nothing worthwhile is gained by updating. You are also only disabling some features at this point. Wait until absolutely necessary, besides, vulnerabilities may be found in the earlier firmwares which could lead to exploits that could be used to eventually create something like a custom firmware. Updating when not necessary will always lead to regret if the firmware introduces security features.

[NeverX]

it works fine with gcos
How do you make the gcos disc?

[nitsud707]

for reals can anyone help us with the wiis gcos iso image ? ive downloaded both versions of 1.5 and cant figure it out to save my life.....

[friko]

for reals can anyone help us with the wiis gcos iso image ? ive downloaded both versions of 1.5 and cant figure it out to save my life.....

Google "how to burn an iso image"
Honestly mate, you have access to all the wealth of the internet, use it

[inde]

your just puting off the inevitable really.
when a game is released that needs 3.0, your gonna have to update whether you like it or not.
the wii brick blocker aint gonna work forever, i was reading on gbatemp that some games brick blocked give black screens as they required the 2.2 update

[NeverX]

Google "how to burn an iso image"
Honestly mate, you have access to all the wealth of the internet, use it
How do you get GCOS to make the iso image?

[friko]

How do you get GCOS to make the iso image?

Tell you what mate, I copied and paste your exact question into google and here's what it returned
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=How+do+you+get+GCOS+to+make+the+iso+image

[HUYI]

How do you get GCOS to make the iso image?

i would like to know that aswell, i'm gonna search the forums to see if i get some info first though.

[etb]

wiid (pal) Works

[NeverX]

Tell you what mate, I copied and paste your exact question into google and here's what it returned
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=How+do+you+get+GCOS+to+make+the+iso+image
A lot of this stuff goes right over my head. If there's a simple 10 second solution I'd rather just know that.

[diddy_rj]

Hi! Anyone had Tried with Wiifree 2.44a?

Tks!

[KanaTi]

Anyone know if it works with the new update?
Thanks

[Kumba]

i wont uprade unless *ABSOLUTELY* necessary, as long as i can play my backups, im not fussed
You mean "pirated copies of games I don't own" instead of "backups", right?



I will not be installing this update any time soon and I would urge anyone else to do the same. Looks like interesting times ahead :)
Why not? I installed the update and rather like some of the new changes, especially the overhaul done to the shop channel (which was badly needed as their catalog size increased).



Nothing worthwhile is gained by updating. You are also only disabling some features at this point. Wait until absolutely necessary, besides, vulnerabilities may be found in the earlier firmwares which could lead to exploits that could be used to eventually create something like a custom firmware. Updating when not necessary will always lead to regret if the firmware introduces security features.
Disabling features? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I guess you mean that by updating, you won't be able to play your downloaded copies of games anymore, right? Which is, yanno, kinda the point for these "security features": To prevent you people from pirating this stuff in the first place.

Ya'll can go on and on about how this is all really for potentially running homebrew software, backing up game discs in the odd event that your dog chews up a game disc, or some other asinine excuse. But the truth, gamers and gentlemen is, these mods are for the 95% of you people too cheap to actually buy the game.

Some of ya'll simply do the try-before-you-buy bit. To those, I give kudos -- the demo channel will be fun to toy with, won't it?. To those who are truly in it for the homebrew development, who seek to do unprecedented things with such unique hardware, I give double kudos (and I look forward to seeing your software in WiiWare next year). The rest of you guys who simply want games for free, you deserve the bricking headed your way.



And yes, this post is written with the intent to stir up flames and otherwise cause chaos and dissent (because it's a Tuesday, and I'm in a snarky mood).


Cheers! :)


--Kumba

[NeverX]

You mean "pirated copies of games I don't own" instead of "backups", right?




Why not? I installed the update and rather like some of the new changes, especially the overhaul done to the shop channel (which was badly needed as their catalog size increased).




Disabling features? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I guess you mean that by updating, you won't be able to play your downloaded copies of games anymore, right? Which is, yanno, kinda the point for these "security features": To prevent you people from pirating this stuff in the first place.

Ya'll can go on and on about how this is all really for potentially running homebrew software, backing up game discs in the odd event that your dog chews up a game disc, or some other asinine excuse. But the truth, gamers and gentlemen is, these mods are for the 95% of you people too cheap to actually buy the game.

Some of ya'll simply do the try-before-you-buy bit. To those, I give kudos -- the demo channel will be fun to toy with, won't it?. To those who are truly in it for the homebrew development, who seek to do unprecedented things with such unique hardware, I give double kudos (and I look forward to seeing your software in WiiWare next year). The rest of you guys who simply want games for free, you deserve the bricking headed your way.



And yes, this post is written with the intent to stir up flames and otherwise cause chaos and dissent (because it's a Tuesday, and I'm in a snarky mood).


Cheers! :)


--Kumba
Saying that when you sit down on the toilet it's usually to take a **** would have been just as much of a shocking revelation.

[duros]

You mean "pirated copies of games I don't own" instead of "backups", right?



And yes, this post is written with the intent to stir up flames and otherwise cause chaos and dissent (because it's a Tuesday, and I'm in a snarky mood).


Cheers! :)


--Kumba
I suppose mommy didn't love you right? You sir, are an idiot.

[Kumba]

I suppose mommy didn't love you right? You sir, are an idiot.
I'm not the one whose avatar picture is that of a surprised baboon. ;)


Cheers,

--Kumba

[Almighty_Peanut]

I suppose mommy didn't love you right? You sir, are an idiot.

must have taken you awhile to think up that comeback. good game, sir.

[duros]

must have taken you awhile to think up that comeback. good game, sir.
Minimal effort was required for pond scum like that.

[|greatTeacher|]

Here is a way I have found to make the dvd config disk 1.2working with wiikeys :

Juste put a Gcos disk on to the wii .
Run it with the wii
When It ask you to put a dvd , eject the gcos on and insert the dvd config disk
Then Press "A"
Now you will have an explorater , just select the ".dol" file and It will run the dvd config disk , just like it was working before !
;) ;) ;) Enjoy ;) ;) ;)

[thecheekymonkey]

OK wel heres a bit of news.

brand new wii > genuine wiikey fitted > power on > backup works > goto update (it is on 2.1e) > update to 3.0e > try backup wont work > try original > wont work > try wiikey setup disk > wont work.


OK just to counter out that theres a possibility that the soldering is a bit iffy (believe me it isnt) just tried another two different drives in there and all the same as above.


not sure whats going on ???

[duros]

I'm not the one whose avatar picture is that of a surprised baboon. ;)


Cheers,

--KumbaSpider monkey to you. Your cheezy reaper phantom is waay cooler. Go back to the pokemon forums troll.

Did your dog die or something?

[kickinass]

Has anyone here tried the update who has a Chiip?

[duros]

OK wel heres a bit of news.

brand new wii > genuine wiikey fitted > power on > backup works > goto update (it is on 2.1e) > update to 3.0e > try backup wont work > try original > wont work > try wiikey setup disk > wont work.


OK just to counter out that theres a possibility that the soldering is a bit iffy (believe me it isnt) just tried another two different drives in there and all the same as above.


not sure whats going on ???
I'm sure your soldering is spot on Cheeky. It's weird that people are getting such varied results.

[Kumba]

Minimal effort was required for pond scum like that.
Actually, Pond Scum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pond_scum), also known as Algae, is a useful, and critical component of our world's ecosystem. I like to do my part in producing the majority of the world's oxygen. Thanks for recognizing my contributions! =D


--Kumba

[GTluver]

GCOS is a simple menu that u can burn on a disc basically.. and if u boot that as an ngc game, you can then in that menu get it to load another disc (eject gcos disc n insert the other)
google gcos :) (the letters stand for gamecube operating system yeah but just search for gcos)


So what is really the purpose of GCOS? To load a different GC game(or GC backup) without turning off the wii?. Or is this loader only benefits non-modded wii's? Maybe this is what i heard about putting a few GC games into one DVD?

[Kumba]

Spider monkey to you. Your cheezy reaper phantom is waay cooler. Go back to the pokemon forums troll.

Did your dog die or something?
It's actually a modified picture of Nom Anor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nom_Anor).

And I didn't come from the pokemon forums, I came from 4chan.org/b/, and Anon is most displeased.

And thirdly, I don't like dogs; I like cats. And they're both in good health. Thanks for asking.


--Kumba

[duros]

Actually, Pond Scum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pond_scum), also known as Algae, is a useful, and critical component of our world's ecosystem. I like to do my part in producing the majority of the world's oxygen. Thanks for recognizing my contributions! =D


--Kumba
You smell like bacon. 17 posts huh? What pile of primordial pig **** were you spawned from?

[Kumba]

You smell like bacon. 17 posts huh? What pile of primordial pig **** were you spawned from?
It's not the number of posts that matter, it's how you use them.

And I smell like bacon? Can you get any more original than that?


--Kumba

[duros]

It's not the number of posts that matter, it's how you use them.

And I smell like bacon? Can you get any more original than that?


--Kumba
You simply aren't worth the effort. Cheezy phantoms that desire to be flamed are so last season.

[Kumba]

You simply aren't worth the effort. Cheezy phantoms that desire to be flamed are so last season.
I thought I was the one doing the flaming here -- You took my bait, after all ;)


--Kumba

[duros]

I thought I was the one doing the flaming here -- You took my bait, after all ;)


--Kumba
Oh is that the game you're playing? How does that make you any less of a troll?




And yes, this post is written with the intent to stir up flames and otherwise cause chaos and dissent (because it's a Tuesday, and I'm in a snarky mood).


Cheers! :)


--Kumba

[friko]

Come on, let's get back on topic guys
Will people who post feedback on whether their updates have worked or not please state the:
1. PAL or NTSC
2. Chip fitted and version (if any) + firmware versions
3. Whether Wii backups, GC backups, Config discs etc.. work

[BlackDove]

Guys could you leave your flirting for another thread please, this one's a bit too important.

[BlackDove]

OK wel heres a bit of news.

brand new wii > genuine wiikey fitted > power on > backup works > goto update (it is on 2.1e) > update to 3.0e > try backup wont work > try original > wont work > try wiikey setup disk > wont work.


OK just to counter out that theres a possibility that the soldering is a bit iffy (believe me it isnt) just tried another two different drives in there and all the same as above.


not sure whats going on ???

I don't think anyone would suspect iffy soldering from you.

If this is the case though and Nintendo are basically bricking consoles completely, isn't that going to unleash a potential legal shitstorm on them ? I mean to prevent a modded console from booting backups or playing online is one thing but to prevent it from pretty much functioning at all is quite another.

[duros]

Guys could you leave your flirting for another thread please, this one's a bit too important.
(points at cheezy reaper)... He started it!

This is an important thread. And that's exactly why the trolls have arrived.

Seeing all the intermittent results makes me want to avoid this update like the plague.

[Quantumsource]

Does any one know if the Chiip or if another atmega firmware works.

[kickinass]

Does any one know if the Chiip or if another atmega firmware works.
That's what i'm wondering but those other two tards buried my post with their arguing.

[BlackDove]

I suppose the drive doctor would be good because you could update using the nintendo stock firmware and then just put wiinja back on it.

[wiggim]

nintendo has to completely change the scheme of how games boot to disable any drive mod, which isn't possible for various reasons..
different chips
different controllers
games hardcoded to load a certain way

Anyone having problems with a modded wii - have you tried disabling/uninstalling the chip to see what your results are?

enough said.

[RoboChicken]

Come on, let's get back on topic guys
Will people who post feedback on whether their updates have worked or not please state the:
1. PAL or NTSC
2. Chip fitted and version (if any) + firmware versions
3. Whether Wii backups, GC backups, Config discs etc.. work

4. DVD type (D2A, D2B, D2C)
5. Updated with chip off/removed or chip on?

Yes please stay on topic. And I don't completely trust everyone on this thread. Who knows what your actual intentions are

[djhazee]

The first thing I checked for was the fan being on during standby. It wasnt moving at all, but I did not give it time to heat up to see if it comes on after a certain time.

So far, no fan on standby as far as I know.

[duros]

nintendo has to completely change the scheme of how games boot to disable any drive mod, which isn't possible for various reasons..
different chips
different controllers
games hardcoded to load a certain way

Anyone having problems with a modded wii - have you tried disabling/uninstalling the chip to see what your results are?

enough said.

Agreed, but they really don't have to disable the drive mod to disable functionality. They could just disable wiiconnect or the drive itself.

They are most likely well aware of all the chips and the method of installation. No doubt there are moles around us that are paid to infiltrate the scene and find the weakness to exploit in order to detect modifications and disable features/drive functionality.

Like robochicken said.. don't trust everyone in this thread.

[instigator]

Agreed, but they really don't have to disable the drive mod to disable functionality. They could just disable wiiconnect or the drive itself.

They are most likely well aware of all the chips and the method of installation. No doubt there are moles around us that are paid to infiltrate the scene and find the weakness to exploit in order to detect modifications and disable features/drive functionality.

Like robochicken said.. don't trust everyone in this thread.

LOL! Moles? All they'd have to do is buy a few chips and they'd be away to the races! Nothing Top Secret there :)

[gr04ts]

it's time to use the "upgradeBlocker" on Wii ISO's ;-)

[duros]

LOL! Moles? All they'd have to do is buy a few chips and they'd be away to the races! Nothing Top Secret there :)
Exactly my point. By moles I was referring to their malicious intent.

[thecheekymonkey]

OK further to my last post.

ok the console with 3.0e is brand new , just upgraded from 2.1e.
its PAL
the wiikeys are all genuine.

ive tried drives with varying chipsets dms / d2b / legless or sober ;) all the same.


the funny thing is ive just powered the console down for 15 minutes and tried again with all drives and they seem to be working fine now!!


So really not sure whats been going on but on 3.0e wiikey is working fine now.



very strange.

[duros]

OK further to my last post.

ok the console with 3.0e is brand new , just upgraded from 2.1e.
its PAL
the wiikeys are all genuine.

ive tried drives with varying chipsets dms / d2b / legless or sober ;) all the same.


the funny thing is ive just powered the console down for 15 minutes and tried again with all drives and they seem to be working fine now!!


So really not sure whats been going on but on 3.0e wiikey is working fine now.



very strange.

When Cheeky doesn't know what is going on... be afraid. Glad to hear the problem has mysteriously been rectified. You mentioned the firmware was 2.1e? Why didn't you upgrade to 2.2e previously?

[msaraiva]

1. PAL
2. WiiKey
3. Wii Backups OK / GC Backups OK / Homebrew THROUGH GCoS OK
4. D2A
5. CHIP ON all the time

About the setup discs, i guess they just blocked the DISCs ID (The disc starts and displays for a sec, but then wii gives an error)

There's another thread with new WiiKey setup ISOs that are supposed to work with 3.0, but i don't have any blank dvds now to test.

[Kiriyami]

Pal Wii - Wiikey + UPDATED FINE!

[yomer]

Has anyone updated their Wii with the Wiid mod? Did you disable the chip with the optional reset wire?

[sharkybr]

Just confirming it still works with WiiFree
My Wii is from the american launch, all virtual console games work and so do the weather and news channels.
Wii backups also work flawlessly, although I haven't tested any config discs or action replay.

[Kumba]

Oh is that the game you're playing? How does that make you any less of a troll?
Who said I was trying to be less of a troll?


Let me be real for a moment.

I read MaxConsole day-in and day-out for news on the video gaming world. Or rather, links to news (MC is a lot like slashdot, in that it's an aggregator of news resources rather than an actual news site itself). Equally, the forums are fun to read, and occasionally, I comment on something of interest.

What probably annoys me is that, the forums these days just seem to be filled with a bunch of whiny, wannabe-pirates whose only goal is to get games for any system w/o actually paying for them. And I say whiny, because you guys all whine and complain when someone at Nintendo (or Sony for that matter) implements a new way to block your efforts. Maybe this isn't the actual case, but that's just my perspective of it. Equally, this thread is a fine example of where my perspective comes from anyways, especially with you and BlackDove referring to this thread as "important" (important to pirate, hah, please).

What I'd also like to see here is useful conversation on games and systems and other such associated topics. NOT on whether some stupid mod tool lets you guys pirate more games (seriously, go buy the fscking game for once). This thread could've (and probably should've) been more based on what features this firmware update brought us. Not whether or not it disabled illegal mods to the system (largely, this blame falls to he whom created this news post in the first place).



As an FYI, I didn't get the warning screen when I picked up the update, which signals to me that Nintendo has a way of detecting mods to the system. This could spell trouble for ya'll down the road. Something to keep in mind. (More to the point, at least Ninty was kind enough to warn, whereas the other two companies just push out an update and couldn't care one bit if it bricks the system).


Cheers,

--Kumba

[thecheekymonkey]

its entirely possible if they have anything up there sleaves that its a timed event.................................
who knows.


i didnt update to 2.2e as its brand new today, just did the update and straight to 3.0e :D

[manias]

How do you make the gcos disc?
I just made a multi-game gamecube disc with GCOS (it's some executable very easy) and that also gives you the option to insert another disc if u wanted to.. www.gamecubeos.com

[msaraiva]

Who said I was trying to be less of a troll?


Let me be real for a moment.

I read MaxConsole day-in and day-out for news on the video gaming world. Or rather, links to news (MC is a lot like slashdot, in that it's an aggregator of news resources rather than an actual news site itself). Equally, the forums are fun to read, and occasionally, I comment on something of interest.

What probably annoys me is that, the forums these days just seem to be filled with a bunch of whiny, wannabe-pirates whose only goal is to get games for any system w/o actually paying for them. And I say whiny, because you guys all whine and complain when someone at Nintendo (or Sony for that matter) implements a new way to block your efforts. Maybe this isn't the actual case, but that's just my perspective of it. Equally, this thread is a fine example of where my perspective comes from anyways, especially with you and BlackDove referring to this thread as "important" (important to pirate, hah, please).

What I'd also like to see here is useful conversation on games and systems and other such associated topics. NOT on whether some stupid mod tool lets you guys pirate more games (seriously, go buy the fscking game for once). This thread could've (and probably should've) been more based on what features this firmware update brought us. Not whether or not it disabled illegal mods to the system (largely, this blame falls to he whom created this news post in the first place).



As an FYI, I didn't get the warning screen when I picked up the update, which signals to me that Nintendo has a way of detecting mods to the system. This could spell trouble for ya'll down the road. Something to keep in mind. (More to the point, at least Ninty was kind enough to warn, whereas the other two companies just push out an update and couldn't care one bit if it bricks the system).


Cheers,

--Kumba

I don't know how many times i'll have to repeat this, but: THE WARNING ONLY COMES UP WHEN YOU TRY TO UPDATE AGAIN, AFTER YOU'RE ON 3.0, IT DOESN'T COME UP BEFORE THE UPDATE...

Ninty is simply stating that they are not LIABLE for any damages that may incur to your modified console after an update. IANAL, but that's just legal mubo-jumbo.
They can't detect modchips yet, and i guess they won't be able for a long time...blocking the update disc does not mean they detected a modchip, it just means they probably blocked the disc ID.

[nitsud707]

I just made a multi-game gamecube disc with GCOS (it's some executable very easy) and that also gives you the option to insert another disc if u wanted to.. www.gamecubeos.com

can u please explain to me how you did this? after i downloaded GCOS 1.5 from the website i cant find the iso image to burn after you extract it.

[hoky]

Kumba,

you need to get your eyes out that tunnel and remember what site you posting and reading on.

Just remember what this site was founded on and you'll be ok...

[duros]

What probably annoys me is that, the forums these days just seem to be filled with a bunch of whiny, wannabe-pirates whose only goal is to get games for any system w/o actually paying for them

What I'd also like to see here is useful conversation on games and systems and other such associated topics. NOT on whether some stupid mod tool lets you guys pirate more games (seriously, go buy the fscking game for once).

Cheers,

--Kumba

Your blatant intent to incite flames negates any attempt at creating an intelligent commentary on the state of the modding community.

Have you upgraded your modded console yet Kumba? What results did you get?

[kcvfr400]

No problems here after the 3.0e European update, but didn't see the screen like the front page warning of modchips just the usual disclaimer like other updates before install. It was bloody slow though took 20mins to download the update.

[msaraiva]

No problems here after the 3.0e European update, but didn't see the screen like the front page warning of modchips just the usual disclaimer like other updates before install. It was bloody slow though took 20mins to download the update.

Do you people at least read the threads you are posting on? Please read a few (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showpost.php?p=624518&postcount=126) posts before yours and you'll see why you didn't see the warning.

[NeverX]

Would you trolls all stop trying to get the last word in already.

[BlackDove]

Yeah they're pissing me off now, this thread needs a bit of an overhaul just basically post your setup and say if you've had any problems since the update or not.

[maxcxa]

Cyclowiz 3.0 >>>> disabled via reset switch
PAL Wii

Update worked...however nothing worth updating for

[manias]

can u please explain to me how you did this? after i downloaded GCOS 1.5 from the website i cant find the iso image to burn after you extract it.
I'll make a new thread with an attachment in the wii hacking forum so everyone finds it :)

[msaraiva]

Would you trolls all stop trying to get the last word in already.

I tried to contribute with my setup...but i don't like ppl spreading FUD or misinformation, so i had to clarify about the warning screen.

[Kumba]

Your blatant intent to incite flames negates any attempt at creating an intelligent commentary on the state of the modding community.
I guess it's a lost cause then, isn't it? Creating intelligent commentary on a community that is totally devoid of it. Oh well. C'est la vie.


Have you upgraded your modded console yet Kumba? What results did you get?
My console is unmodded and as pristine as the day I bought it. It'll be worth money should Ninty ever cook up a way to lock out the majority of you pirates.



Kumba,

you need to get your eyes out that tunnel and remember what site you posting and reading on.

Just remember what this site was founded on and you'll be ok...
Origins are precisely that: origins. What this site was in the past is irrelevant now, except as a historical footnote. It's grown into something that's much more.

Nintendo started out by making playing cards, and Sony started out by making radios. Do you think either still caters to that narrow, specific market anymore? MC may've started out catering to the mod community, but it seems to me to have progressed and grown beyond that now. I would imagine the user base has progressed with it.


--Kumba

[msaraiva]

I guess it's a lost cause then, isn't it? Creating intelligent commentary on a community that is totally devoid of it. Oh well. C'est la vie.



My console is unmodded and as pristine as the day I bought it. It'll be worth money should Ninty ever cook up a way to lock out the majority of you pirates.




Origins are precisely that: origins. What this site was in the past is irrelevant now, except as a historical footnote. It's grown into something that's much more.

Nintendo started out by making playing cards, and Sony started out by making radios. Do you think either still caters to that narrow, specific market anymore? MC may've started out catering to the mod community, but it seems to me to have progressed and grown beyond that now. I would imagine the user base has progressed with it.


--Kumba

Look at this:

As an FYI, I didn't get the warning screen when I picked up the update, which signals to me that Nintendo has a way of detecting mods to the system. This could spell trouble for ya'll down the road. Something to keep in mind. (More to the point, at least Ninty was kind enough to warn, whereas the other two companies just push out an update and couldn't care one bit if it bricks the system).

Do you even know when the warning screen is supposed to appear? Like i said a million times before, it doesn't show up BEFORE the update, but after you're on 3.0 and try to do a new system update. Now, if you really want to contribute to this thread, make a video of your unmodded console at the system settings and try to update your console again (now that you're on 3.0). If it doesn't show the warning screen, then yes, nintendo is already able to detect modchips (which i doubt they are), but if not, please STFU and stop spreading FUD. If you don't like the fact that people are talking about modifications on a section called "Wii Hacking, Tuning & Customization", go elsewhere.

[Almighty_Peanut]

Do you even know when the warning screen is supposed to appear? Like i said a million times before, it doesn't show up BEFORE the update, but after you're on 3.0 and try to do a new system update. Now, if you really want to contribute to this thread, make a video of your unmodded console at the system settings and try to update your console again (now that you're on 3.0). If it doesn't show the warning screen, then yes, nintendo is already able to detect modchips (which i doubt they are), but if not, please STFU and stop spreading FUD. If you don't like the fact that people are talking about modifications on a section called "Wii Hacking, Tuning & Customization", go elsewhere.


his bad for not trying to update an update to confirm after he already updated.



Kumba,

you need to get your eyes out that tunnel and remember what site you posting and reading on.

Just remember what this site was founded on and you'll be ok...


that's true, but the kids don't have to look like starving children in somalia for their game pirating fix :D

[duros]

My console is unmodded and as pristine as the day I bought it. It'll be worth money should Ninty ever cook up a way to lock out the majority of you pirates.


So you are here because you intend to police the unworthy and cast your self righteous accusations of right and wrong on Max Console?

Get a life much?

[msaraiva]

his bad for not trying to update an update to confirm after he already updated.

You should only state as a fact what you're 100% sure of, or else you end up spreading misinformation, or what's worse FUD (which exactly what he tried doing, spreading FUD)

[Nawz]

Lets all have a party because we now have a digital clock lawl.

[odinfire]

I updated my modded Wii to 3.0 today and now whenever I stick in a Xbox 360 disc, it wont play. I get DRE's.

Did I do something wrong???

[x_water]

I guess it's a lost cause then, isn't it? Creating intelligent commentary on a community that is totally devoid of it. Oh well. C'est la vie.



My console is unmodded and as pristine as the day I bought it. It'll be worth money should Ninty ever cook up a way to lock out the majority of you pirates.




Origins are precisely that: origins. What this site was in the past is irrelevant now, except as a historical footnote. It's grown into something that's much more.

Nintendo started out by making playing cards, and Sony started out by making radios. Do you think either still caters to that narrow, specific market anymore? MC may've started out catering to the mod community, but it seems to me to have progressed and grown beyond that now. I would imagine the user base has progressed with it.


--Kumba


okey, seriously. if ur wii isnt modded, why the hell r u comimng on the hacking fourm just to nag at ppl that we're cheep. yeah, we are cheap, who cars. u do ur thing, we'll do our. oh, and stop trying to use a large vocabulary to try n sound smarter. u dont have to take 20 min 2 think up what words to use to get a point across.

[manias]

I updated my modded Wii to 3.0 today and now whenever I stick in a Xbox 360 disc, it wont play. I get DRE's.

Did I do something wrong???
you win the award of the day :P

[BlackDove]

I've got the same problem everytime I try to boot a rice cake in mine, it's having none of it.

[manias]

Now that we sort of know that the update works fine apart from needing gcos now.. I've also read quite a few people having trouble with the news application? Anyone not got any problems after resetting their internet settings etc?

[pwntendo]

There is a new tool for making working isos over at wiinewz.com I tried it with the wiifree config disc and it works fine now. They say it works with the wiikey one too. Pretty cool that they got this fixed in only a matter of hours.

[Kumba]

So you are here because you intend to police the unworthy and cast your self righteous accusations of right and wrong on Max Console?
Self righteous? Nah, just annoyed and bored at all of you who freak out over a bloody firmware update, because it might make your pirate lifestyle a little more difficult.


Get a life much?
"Life" is overrated -- there's no power ups, extra lives, cheats, or continues. Plus, it's chock-full of bugs that the original programmer has never bothered to resolve, and the code is 100% undocumented.


--Kumba

[Kumba]

I updated my modded Wii to 3.0 today and now whenever I stick in a Xbox 360 disc, it wont play. I get DRE's.

Did I do something wrong???

Time to become an hero now.

[mrbigjonstud]

kumba is just mad that pirates get more booty than him :)

arrrrrr it's fun being a pirate

it's time to download some illegal games and movies on my cracked windows computer

[Kumba]

okey, seriously. if ur wii isnt modded, why the hell r u comimng on the hacking fourm just to nag at ppl that we're cheep. yeah, we are cheap, who cars. u do ur thing, we'll do our. oh, and stop trying to use a large vocabulary to try n sound smarter. u dont have to take 20 min 2 think up what words to use to get a point across.

I actually came in off the link from the posting on the front page. As such, I didn't really give much attention to the actual forum location of this particular thread, and was looking more for information/observation of what actually changed in the 3.0U update (like the fan working in stand-by mode). Nintendo doesn't exactly post a changelog of changes for each of their firmware updates.

Am I out of place? Of course. That was my intent from the very beginning once I read through the first 4 pages and only found 3-4 posts actually discussing the changes in the new firmware, and the remaining posts about people freaking out that their pirated games may not work anymore. It's a slow, quiet Tuesday, nearly 100F outside, I've spent most of the day tweaking file permissions on a new network I'm building, so I figured, it'd be fun to stir up some scheiße a little bit.

This is also why I keep referring to you guys as "pirates" and not "hackers". Pirates are cheap, like you say, and copy games with impunity. Hackers actually try to do something with the system (that's different from the prescribed norm). All those DS Homebrew games -- awesome stuff. The people behind that are true hackers.

And I'm not intentionally using "big words" to try and sound smarter. That's just my preferred vocabulary. Just like you like to use shortcut words in yours. Like you said, we each have our preferences.

That said, you'd had the most intelligent response to my original inquiry yet. Kudos.


--Kumba

[brentbizzle]

Kumba... you are clearly posting in the wrong forum.

I we wanted a lecture, there are a number of places we can go to get one. There are some people who mod systems so that they can play backups of games they own... which they should be able to do. There are others that pirate, which probably makes up the majority of the people here.

Those who pirate know what they are doing. If anyone thinks that pirating is right, well, they're naive. That being said, this forum is here for one reason... Wii hacking, tuning and customization. We are here because we want our consoles moded. When Nintendo interferes with that, of course we're gonna sit here and complain. We know what we are doing may not be right, but it doesn't mean that Nintendo's actions aren't going to annoy us. If you don't want to read complaints... then don't come here.

[Kumba]

Kumba... you are clearly posting in the wrong forum.

I we wanted a lecture, there are a number of places we can go to get one. There are some people who mod systems so that they can play backups of games they own... which they should be able to do. There are others that pirate, which probably makes up the majority of the people here.
Riddle me this -- what's the need to "backup" a game anymore these days? Whether we're allowed to or not is a legal grey area presently, so it can go either way (until some lawsuit finally settles the matter). My experience has been that when something gets damaged or destroyed, calling the publisher usually gets it replaced or repaired. Yes, an exchange is sometimes needed (i.e., dog chews disc), or a proof of purchase of some kind. And yes, sometimes you'll have to sit on the phone for a half-hour, talking to someone in India with a bad accent, then wait three weeks for the package to arrive. But in the end, the few times I've had to get a game replaced, I've had no problems (the one exception was NWN2).

This line of thinking is why when I see people mentioning the word "backups", I read it as "pirating".



Those who pirate know what they are doing. If anyone thinks that pirating is right, well, they're naive. That being said, this forum is here for one reason... Wii hacking, tuning and customization. We are here because we want our consoles moded. When Nintendo interferes with that, of course we're gonna sit here and complain. We know what we are doing may not be right, but it doesn't mean that Nintendo's actions aren't going to annoy us. If you don't want to read complaints... then don't come here.
Do they? Some might, yes. And when I say might, I mean fully understand that they're depriving a developer a given amount of income that would've been obtained had the game been physically bought. The rest, I think simply see these modding devices as a way to get "free" games, and give little extra thought to what it is they're actually doing.





Anyways, with that said, the work day is over here, so I think I'll take my leave. I think I've caused enough trouble for one day, yes? :)

Ya'll have been a fun crowd. I'm sure we'll be interacting again in the future at some point!


--Kumba

[duros]

This Kumba tool obviously has no clue. He sees everyone that mods their consoles as a pirate. Which makes him just about as pertinent as he is relevant to anything being discussed here.

There is a new tool for making working isos over at wiinewz.com I tried it with the wiifree config disc and it works fine now. They say it works with the wiikey one too. Pretty cool that they got this fixed in only a matter of hours. Great news. Homebrew is safe for now...

[Ed_209]

http://dogtoe.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

[duros]

And if you lose?

[brentbizzle]

And if you lose?
Then you're Kumba

[Xcessive]

So now that the one guy is gone, maybe we can find out some info.

Does anyone have an un-modded wii to check and see if they get the same message?

[weathejx]

I have no problems with the update.


Mod: wiikey 1.2
Wii: Got mine on release date, whatever version that is (US/NTSC)
Wii backups: Ok
GC Mulit boot: Ok
Single GC: No boot, but can use GCOS to boot.

this is what this thread should look like. Not a bunch of babies yelling at each other.

[Kumba]

This Kumba tool obviously has no clue. He sees everyone that mods their consoles as a pirate. Which makes him just about as pertinent as he is relevant to anything being discussed here.
That's because the only point to mod a console is to play a pirated (or in your words, "backed up") game. For now, at least. When someone produces a true Homebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_%28video_games%29) game, then my assumption will be invalidated.

If ya'll really want to invalidate me, then someone needs to go create a homebrew game (anything counts -- code up a homebrew Pong for Wii using the Wiimote to control the paddle by moving it up or down), and put out a playable copy someplace.

--Kumba

[Kumba]

And if you lose?
Then you're Kumba
Whoever said I was here to "win" or "lose"? :)

I'm here for the fun of arguing with you guys. There's no winning or losing in it for me ;)


--Kumba

[manias]

That's because the only point to mod a console is to play a pirated (or in your words, "backed up") game. For now, at least. When someone produces a true Homebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_%28video_games%29) game, then my assumption will be invalidated.

If ya'll really want to invalidate me, then someone needs to go create a homebrew game (anything counts -- code up a homebrew Pong for Wii using the Wiimote to control the paddle by moving it up or down), and put out a playable copy someplace.

--Kumba
uhh.. no?
yes, it runs copied games. It also runs all gamecube homebrew (mediaplayer, emulators, etc). It also runs (most) gamecube and wii imported games (so e.g. games that never will be released in europe).
Get ur facts straight :P

[odinfire]

I've got the same problem everytime I try to boot a rice cake in mine, it's having none of it.

I think maybe you shouldnt use peanut butter on your rice cakes when you try to load them...

[duros]

If ya'll really want to invalidate me,
You have done that all by yourself. Why don't you just take your leave again?

Or must you further cement your flagrant ignorance into idiot troll history?

[TheLaw]

I think maybe you shouldnt use peanut butter on your rice cakes when you try to load them...

Have you tried toasting your rice cakes @ 4x instead of 8x.

Or maybe your rice media isn't good quality? Try memorcake or verbiscuit

[DaveMode]

Although I'd love to keep the flame war alive, I figure I'll just post results:

USA Wii (purchased at launch)
Cyclowiz ver 2 (never updated as I didn't install switch)

Everything works fine!

[kickinass]

Although I'd love to keep the flame war alive, I figure I'll just post results:

USA Wii (purchased at launch)
Cyclowiz ver 2 (never updated as I didn't install switch)

Results? You haven't posted any results...

[DaveMode]

Results? You haven't posted any results...


Good catch. Last line didn't post for some odd reason. I've edited it. Everything is working great for me.

[nesianstyles]

The only real thing I wanna know about the new firmware, is...
Does the Gamecube Region trick still work?

[brentbizzle]

Whoever said I was here to "win" or "lose"? :)

I'm here for the fun of arguing with you guys. There's no winning or losing in it for me ;)
I wasn't saying you lost, I was saying you're retarded. :p

[kenkiller]

Whoever said I was here to "win" or "lose"? :)

I'm here for the fun of arguing with you guys. There's no winning or losing in it for me ;)


--Kumba

Did you even read the title of this thread? You're the one who's off-topic.

[Adopted]

Time to become an hero now.

will you go away if we speak to you in your language /b/tard?
Lurk moar

Edit: Wiikey on US console, update no problem.

[sho100]

hey guys, can anyone tell me if a wii modified with a wiikey 'clone' will work with the new firmware update, and can anyone tell me if there is anyway, i can check if i have a genuine wiikey in my wii without having to open it it up as i did'nt modify my wii myself:confused: . thanks

[rsxonly]

alrite so after 12 pages of reading im still not sure if i got the info correct

so please correct me if i am wrong-i have a wiikey and launch system

step 1-update system to 3.0
step 2-backups will no longer work
step 3- run gcos disc and then wiikey setup disc
step 4-backups will work again

can you guys please confirm these are the steps to take???

thanks

[panyan1991]

i just updated my cyclowiz 3.0 which had 2.2U to 3.0U WITHOUT disabling chip - all went fine, everything works great

[deadrabbit]

If nintendo continues to include firmware updates with its games, then surely this warning is relevant to the people who use grey imports on their modified wii's and brick due to foreign firmware (similar to previous situations with 2.2).

It appears not to brick via online update thus far!

(Although has anyone tried the update with wiid yet? hehe!)

I also read that the 3.0 update is fine, then the 3.3 update follows it (this being the one with the warning) is that correct?

[manias]

If nintendo continues to include firmware updates with its games, then surely this warning is relevant to the people who use grey imports on their modified wii's and brick due to foreign firmware (similar to previous situations with 2.2).

It appears not to brick via online update thus far!

(Although has anyone tried the update with wiid yet? hehe!)

I also read that the 3.0 update is fine, then the 3.3 update follows it (this being the one with the warning) is that correct?
there is NO 3.3 update. EVERY single person in teh world with a wii gets that message when they click update once they are at 3.0! Not just people with modchips. The wii doesn't detect them at all! Nobody has bricked.
3.3 is a myth, does not exist yet.

[delboy2004]

can anyone confirm that a Wiikit clone of the Wiikey can be updated with the latest update please

Also my modchip can be unplugged and would this work by doing that.

any help would be appreciated

[theyalwaysscore]

update done 2.2e to 3.0e everything seems to be fine


launch wii
cyclowiz 3.0
disabled chip before update


the screen at the start of this thread is the
screen you get after youve done the update
when your wii is already running 3.0:)

[Handle_Knivez]

confirmed working on wiid ntsc with 3.0u update.

backups- all regions- tested strikers pal, and various ntsc
did not test online but that should not be a problem.

gcos with various gamecube backups- worked fine

everything seems the same.

[stansoid]

I did the update last night at around 11 PM EST.. I did not get that "if you modded your wii you better watch out!" screen.

I was very disappointed :( Anyone else find that? I wanted to see big N's saber rattling for myself!

- Stansoid
Wii /w Wiikey

[downlowfunk]

You mean "pirated copies of games I don't own" instead of "backups", right?




Why not? I installed the update and rather like some of the new changes, especially the overhaul done to the shop channel (which was badly needed as their catalog size increased).




Disabling features? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I guess you mean that by updating, you won't be able to play your downloaded copies of games anymore, right? Which is, yanno, kinda the point for these "security features": To prevent you people from pirating this stuff in the first place.

Ya'll can go on and on about how this is all really for potentially running homebrew software, backing up game discs in the odd event that your dog chews up a game disc, or some other asinine excuse. But the truth, gamers and gentlemen is, these mods are for the 95% of you people too cheap to actually buy the game.

Some of ya'll simply do the try-before-you-buy bit. To those, I give kudos -- the demo channel will be fun to toy with, won't it?. To those who are truly in it for the homebrew development, who seek to do unprecedented things with such unique hardware, I give double kudos (and I look forward to seeing your software in WiiWare next year). The rest of you guys who simply want games for free, you deserve the bricking headed your way.



And yes, this post is written with the intent to stir up flames and otherwise cause chaos and dissent (because it's a Tuesday, and I'm in a snarky mood).


Cheers! :)


--Kumba

Hey Loser, Wii love our mod chips, so suck it buddy!!! Ok so you got some fire outta me. And yeah we backup everything, even stuff that we dont have copies of why? because its easy to do.

[downlowfunk]

I did the update last night at around 11 PM EST.. I did not get that "if you modded your wii you better watch out!" screen.

I was very disappointed :( Anyone else find that? I wanted to see big N's saber rattling for myself!

- Stansoid
Wii /w Wiikey

Yeah no Mod warning here. upgrade went well. my forecast and news channels are now fixed.

I forgot all about the Firmware could break an exploit thing, oh well Ive got XBMC ill be happy for a while.

If it wasnt MaxConsole I wouldnt of even known about this. Thanks Guys!!!

[Fr3ak0r]

As you all might know, USB Keyboards are now Supported.

Proof&more Info (http://wii.ign.com/articles/811/811436p1.html)

[msaraiva]

I did the update last night at around 11 PM EST.. I did not get that "if you modded your wii you better watch out!" screen.

I was very disappointed :( Anyone else find that? I wanted to see big N's saber rattling for myself!

- Stansoid
Wii /w Wiikey

You don't get it before the update. Try updating again, now that you're already on 3.0

YOU WILL SEE THE WARNING, whether you have a modchip or not

It's just legal mumbo-jumbo

[manias]

By the way, I've also updated to 3.0 and did not get any channel problems whatsoever, all work just fine. Zero problems apart from ofcourse the setup disc block blah (and ofcourse GCOS works fine)

[DaveMode]

I think you have to click the update button from the email that's sent to your Wii to get the modchip warning. I updated through the options menu and didn't get the warning at all. After it updated, I clicked the update button on the email. I then got the warning, and then was told my Wii already had the most updated software.

[manias]

I think you have to click the update button from the email that's sent to your Wii to get the modchip warning. I updated through the options menu and didn't get the warning at all. After it updated, I clicked the update button on the email. I then got the warning, and then was told my Wii already had the most updated software.
You get the warning after you updated, if you click on the update button in whatever form (thru the menu or email or whatever).
Everyone gets this, nothin to worry about :)

[deadrabbit]

Ahh I gave in, how could I resist the clock! hehe.

Upgraded from 2.2e to 3.0e (UK)
Wiid chip
Everything works fine -

Wii backups work, (PAL tested only)
NGC backups work,
Online ranked match on Mario Soccer worked (original version)

The wiid firmware update disk may even work - it spins in the machine and does the usual 'disk cannot be read error' (which used to confirm the firmware had been updated!)

D.

[BlackDove]

I think maybe you shouldnt use peanut butter on your rice cakes when you try to load them...

I didn't, I did put some blackcurrant jam on there though, would that make a difference ?

It was a bastard getting them into the slot drive, next time I'll try matzah I've heard even the rewritable ones work.

[pure3d2]

Get a room, you two.

[rsxonly]

alrite so after 12 pages of reading im still not sure if i got the info correct

so please correct me if i am wrong-i have a wiikey and launch system

step 1-update system to 3.0
step 2-backups will no longer work
step 3- run gcos disc and then wiikey setup disc
step 4-backups will work again

can you guys please confirm these are the steps to take???

thanks


can anyone please confirm?

[manias]

can anyone please confirm?
you could've read all along wiikey works fine, no backups are blocked. only the wiikey setup disc is blocked which does work with gcos. Also action replay, sdloader, etc is blocked before gcos.

For everyone then: WiiKey works perfectly, the only thing that does not work is the wiikey setup disc (and other modchip setup discs).
To fix this, boot gcos, then the setupdisc. All backups WORK 100% like before without any extra crap!
And if you already have a wiikey installed you don't need loaders for wii games..

[Quantumsource]

what about chiip? or that other atmega firmware (wiiFree or Openwii I can't remeber)

[duros]

As you all might know, USB Keyboards are now Supported.

Proof&more Info (http://wii.ign.com/articles/811/811436p1.html)
What!? Nice!

[reini]

Upgraded my wii(pal) from 2.2e to 3.0e with original wiikey installed - backups (mario strikers + harry potter) tried so far are still working great :)
BootDisc 1.2 of course not but i'm not gonna need it

[rsxonly]

you could've read all along wiikey works fine, no backups are blocked. only the wiikey setup disc is blocked which does work with gcos. Also action replay, sdloader, etc is blocked before gcos.

For everyone then: WiiKey works perfectly, the only thing that does not work is the wiikey setup disc (and other modchip setup discs).
To fix this, boot gcos, then the setupdisc. All backups WORK 100% like before without any extra crap!
And if you already have a wiikey installed you don't need loaders for wii games..

ohh i see.... why do ppl need to use the setup disc anyways? i havent used mine since i got it modded...

[duros]

ohh i see.... why do ppl need to use the setup disc anyways? i havent used mine since i got it modded...

for booting homebrew...

[krayzied]

They cant brick wii's with chips, It is not illegal to have a chip in australia and if they made software to brick the chips they would have a shitload of lawsuits.

Its just a scare tactic

[Fr3ak0r]

yeah, but they can ban you from the online service. i dont know what stands in the contract you accept by connecting to wiiconnect24, but in the german one you say, that your not connecting with any modded console (or so)

[Yessy2952]

I have read 14 pages,half of those pages are people arguing on stupid things.... >.>
And for the last time a person needs to ask...
Will a WIIKEY CLONE work if updating to 3.0us? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks,
Yessy

[goexplodex4]

Original Cyclowiz v1 with v1 firmware works fine with update.

Backups and originals workin.

[mikecanada]

I have read 14 pages,half of those pages are people arguing on stupid things.... >.>
And for the last time a person needs to ask...
Will a WIIKEY CLONE work if updating to 3.0us? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks,
Yessy


All of the modchips still work

[Yessy2952]

All of the modchips still work
Are you sure? I have heard that Wiifree does not work with the update but I will keep searching for answers.

[mikecanada]

Are you sure? I have heard that Wiifree does not work with the update but I will keep searching for answers.


I saw one person on another site say that there wii stopped reading any discs with that chip but they took it out reprogrammed it and then everything worked fine

but I have seen other people with that chip who are saying that everything works fine

[tigger9878]

thats what chip udates are for, If they every stop your chips from working, a new update will come out to bypass their programs, But I'm still waiting for the promissed wiikey update that they were working on before this news came out, I say it will probably be even longer for it to come out now. I don't play online anyway, why pay $50 to $60 a game WINK WINK, then have to pay to play, Not me happy playing by myself, or with someone in the same room:)

So I say don't worry be happy:)

[pyrokid123]

ok wtf is everyone talking about. There are ppl who say that their wii got fucked up and some that say it doesnt. what is evryone talking about.
And right now i got my wii updated but it crashed halfway saying that theres some error thing. Now i check my wii settings and it says i have 3.0U but the menu hasnt changed. wtf is happening LOL
and when i try to click the update thing. it gives me that warning . what am i suppose to do right now? update?
+ i have a USA wii . does it matter if its USA OR PAL?

[koolfur]

ok wtf is everyone talking about. There are ppl who say that their wii got fucked up and some that say it doesnt. what is evryone talking about.
And right now i got my wii updated but it crashed halfway saying that theres some error thing. Now i check my wii settings and it says i have 3.0U but the menu hasnt changed. wtf is happening LOL
and when i try to click the update thing. it gives me that warning . what am i suppose to do right now? update?
+ i have a USA wii . does it matter if its USA OR PAL?

I have read through several website regarding to the bricking of modded PAL/NTSC-U and came to a conclusion that is a nothing but a hoax... As there have been many reported successful updating of wii console. Besides, I myself have updated my wiikey clone modded NTSC-U console and it seems to have worked just fine.

However, I am still very hesitant to try it on my wiikey modded NTSC-J as I still cant bear agmbling with the possibility of not playing with Donkey Kong: Jet Racing... :p

[tolga9009]

What about the Flash Player in the Opera browser? Has it been updated, too?

Tolga

[djatzmo]

What about the Flash Player in the Opera browser? Has it been updated, too?

Tolga


no! i've already try it. still crashes with youtube video.

[manias]

no! i've already try it. still crashes with youtube video.
doesn't crash with youtube here at all, never did even on 2.2

[mikecanada]

no! i've already try it. still crashes with youtube video.

youtube still works for me it has never given me any problems

[Fr3ak0r]

they mean a general bug in adobe flash player. i think one of the big security/anti-vir companys made a video which crashes several versions of flash player.

newest chiip firmware with 3.0E works just fine.

[Samus]

I have read 14 pages,half of those pages are people arguing on stupid things.... >.>
And for the last time a person needs to ask...
Will a WIIKEY CLONE work if updating to 3.0us? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks,
Yessy

Yes, Wiikey clones work with 3.0U. Updated mine last night and both originals and backups boot.

[sharkybr]

I saw one person on another site say that there wii stopped reading any discs with that chip but they took it out reprogrammed it and then everything worked fine

but I have seen other people with that chip who are saying that everything works fine

Christ, guys, just read the whole topic before posting...I've already said it works with wiifree, since I have one myself. Didn't need to reprogram anything, it just worked like before, running backups & originals (both wii and gc), and also all the channels are working perfectly as well as virtual console games.

[Cline2]

I updated mine from 2.2U to 3.0U no warning message at first then I put Boogie in it has to update from that it has warning message I clicked I accepted it updated from Boogie then all channels works fine I also went to Wii Setting to update again the warning message comes up I clicked I accpeted again it did not update it just tell me that I have the latest no issue here I had Cyclowiz 3.0 after update I updated from 3.0 to 3.5 for Cyclowiz and no issue all working.

[manias]

I updated mine from 2.2U to 3.0U no warning message at first then I put Boogie in it has to update from that it has warning message I clicked I accepted it updated from Boogie then all channels works fine I also went to Wii Setting to update again the warning message comes up I clicked I accpeted again it did not update it just tell me that I have the latest no issue here I had Cyclowiz 3.0 after update I updated from 3.0 to 3.5 for Cyclowiz and no issue all working.
That is ooooooone long sentence :P
But peeps I think we can safely say that nobody bricked anything so this topic is kinda over..

[wlof]

I updated mine from 2.2U to 3.0U no warning message at first then I put Boogie in it has to update from that it has warning message I clicked I accepted it updated from Boogie then all channels works fine I also went to Wii Setting to update again the warning message comes up I clicked I accpeted again it did not update it just tell me that I have the latest no issue here I had Cyclowiz 3.0 after update I updated from 3.0 to 3.5 for Cyclowiz and no issue all working.
So Boogie does ship with the 3.0 update?

[r0tten1]

after much heistation, i said F it and tried the update on my NTSC-U with wiifree installed. after a long nail bitting update i'm proud to say it works fully..gamecube backups work just fine as well as wii backups. I did however have a problem with the Godfather...could just be my disc but over all it worked just fine.

hope this clears some peoples concerns about wiifree

-r0tten

[madridi4ever]

Just a simple question..

Wiikey on US wii v 2.2U, when upgraded to 3.0U, will the "gamecube" backups still work? (ones that used to work on 2.2U)

not homebrew gamecube cds or whatever.. normal backed up games
still work?

[manias]

Just a simple question..

Wiikey on US wii v 2.2U, when upgraded to 3.0U, will the "gamecube" backups still work? (ones that used to work on 2.2U)

not homebrew gamecube cds or whatever.. normal backed up games
still work?
could've read the topic dude everything works fine

[madridi4ever]

I did.. I just got confused about the whole (non authorized gamecube games not working) thing.. didnt know if that meant games or what exactly..

same reason why I didnt ask about Wii games

Thanks for your answer =)

[duros]

I did.. I just got confused about the whole (non authorized gamecube games not working) thing.. didnt know if that meant games or what exactly..

same reason why I didnt ask about Wii games

Thanks for your answer =)

From Wiikey.com:
[07.08.08] Wii firmware 3.0 issues

Nintendo has released firmware 3.0 via online updates. It will NOT brick or disable Wiikey; however, base and config discs will not load 'natively', neither will any other GC disc with El Torito standard header format. WiiNewz have reported that there are already tools available for building bootable config and setup discs, as well as other discs with applications and emulators. We are currently researching why the El Torito format no longer works. Once this is completed new versions of the config and base system disc will be made available.

[herculon]

does the parallelport - pc as a modchip

WABMODCHEAP

still works after the update? i have a pal wii and wabmodcheap final 3.

please tell me - i really want to upgrade because i really love to have keyboard-support!

[madridi4ever]

From Wiikey.com:
[07.08.08] Wii firmware 3.0 issues

Nintendo has released firmware 3.0 via online updates. It will NOT brick or disable Wiikey; however, base and config discs will not load 'natively', neither will any other GC disc with El Torito standard header format. WiiNewz have reported that there are already tools available for building bootable config and setup discs, as well as other discs with applications and emulators. We are currently researching why the El Torito format no longer works. Once this is completed new versions of the config and base system disc will be made available.

I did read that as well.. and the bold parts are EXACTLY what I dont understand.

Thanks to Manias, I understand that regular GC games work but I still dont get the bold parts. What is El Torito format standard header format?

[duros]

I did read that as well.. and the bold parts are EXACTLY what I dont understand.

Thanks to Manias, I understand that regular GC games work but I still dont get the bold parts. What is El Torito format standard header format?

Not sure exactly... i'm assuming it is what gameshark/action replay and other 3rd party homebrew/cheat developers used to boot their software on the gamecube.

Just google El Torito format gamecube, I'm positive you will get reams of info you won't feel like reading. :o I know I did.:p

[City Ninja]

hm, after doing the 3.0 update I accepted the Boogie disc update now it gives me an error when the disc loads. :(

any ideas? should I just burn another copy of it?

[bobbo22]

got my wii the first day it came out and install original wiikey($17.95) on firmware 2.2u backup works, original works, and update to 3.0 and everything still works great

[Cline2]

hm, after doing the 3.0 update I accepted the Boogie disc update now it gives me an error when the disc loads. :(

any ideas? should I just burn another copy of it?


What country your console is? what modchip??

[City Ninja]

Wii Console NTSC (USA) WiiKey

[Cline2]

Wii Console NTSC (USA) WiiKey


Thats weird try different media or re-burn at low speed

[City Ninja]

weird, I reburned at fast speed(like normal) new disc played fine, maybe it blocked THAT disc? weird.

[Cline2]

weird, I reburned at fast speed(like normal) new disc played fine, maybe it blocked THAT disc? weird.

weird but at least you got it to work

[Solrak]

hm, after doing the 3.0 update I accepted the Boogie disc update now it gives me an error when the disc loads. :(

any ideas? should I just burn another copy of it?

The same here!

weird, I reburned at fast speed(like normal) new disc played fine, maybe it blocked THAT disc? weird.

Nope, I tried re-burning the game, same problem.

Now I'm going for the third burn, I'll burn it at 2X to make sure.

-=Solrak=-

[S_E]

The same here!



Nope, I tried re-burning the game, same problem.

Now I'm going for the third burn, I'll burn it at 2X to make sure.

-=Solrak=-

I have a wiikey original modded NTSC/U console. I never updated to 3 but I did put in boogie, (honest original) not thinking about the update. I kinda freaked out when it updated. I then backed it up and put it in to make sure it was working after the boogie disc update...

works fine. All backups, all originals. Sounds like you guys (both?) are using a bad dump or something. I backed up my own original. Works just fine.

[lost123]

So is it safe to updat the wii (mines PAL-Australian)...would i be still able to play all 'backups'??

[manias]

I'm really surprised it's been so many days and people are still saying the same things :P Just read this thread before you freak out, nothing broke, just non-modchip stuff, and use GCOS to boot chip setup discs. All backups work. That's all!

[jonb123]

I don't think anyone would suspect iffy soldering from you.

If this is the case though and Nintendo are basically bricking consoles completely, isn't that going to unleash a potential legal shitstorm on them ? I mean to prevent a modded console from booting backups or playing online is one thing but to prevent it from pretty much functioning at all is quite another.


Unless they put up a warning first, then its fine (apparently )

[nintendokid]

will backups of action replay work either by itself or in a multi game disk with the 3.0 update?

[Treatment X]

ANOTHER update was released, I have a Wiikey, NTSC-USA, works perfectly.

[herculon]

cool! but still - anyone tested if the pc tool WAB Mod Cheap still works with the update 3.0 (that thing via parallel port cable) ??

[sunny5011]

hi can anyone confirm if the update works for chiip opensource modchips

and can u also tell me if its ok to updat for madden 08 on firmware 2.2 or does it hav to be 3.0

[manias]

by the way the newest "update" which was released today i think is more like a hotfix looks like to the internet channel.. doesn't change firmware #

[Happy13178]

K, this is what I've gathered from all 17 pages of nonsense.

Wii NTSC
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - Works
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - Works
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Wii PAL
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - ?
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - ?
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Both
SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs - Not Working

[manias]

K, this is what I've gathered from all 17 pages of nonsense.

Wii NTSC
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - Works
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - Works
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Wii PAL
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - ?
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - ?
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Both
SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs - Not Working

everything works, nobody in the world bricked, all discs not labeled as Gamecube or Wii blocked, such as action replay and chip setup discs. One sentence for so many pages! :P

[arashb]

K, this is what I've gathered from all 17 pages of nonsense.

Wii NTSC
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - Works
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - Works
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Wii PAL
Wiikey - Works
Wiinja - ?
CycloWiz - Works
WiiFree - ?
Wiip / Chiip - ?
WiiD - Works

Both
SD Media Launcher, Maxdrive and Action Replay discs - Not Working


thanks :) made it all easier... zeus label these threads better... it says it will make the modchip bricked not the wii :/

[rvvisse]

thanks :) made it all easier... zeus label these threads better... it says it will make the modchip bricked not the wii :/

NOOOO Modchips are 100% working, it's the softmods. GOSH!

[amim]

I am new here, just want to check anybody had tried this new FW on the NTSC-J console... becoz most of you are reffering to the NTSC-US.
Another thing is how to check the console is with wiikey or not without dissemble the console? Can I try to load with the setup disk to confirm?? The willkey setup disk can use for other mod chip??

[Handle_Knivez]

Action Replay confirmed WORKING with 3.0U (latest ver with internet fix).

So i read some pages and i found that the general consensus is that action replay no longer works. I'm not sure if its been discussed as of yet, but i found a way to make the AR 1.14b (version i have) work, along with another action replay MAX my friend had.

What you need to do is load gcos multigame and wait till it asks u to insert a dvd to load. Eject the gcos multigame disk and insert the the AR disk.
The AR splash screen shows and then you can enable some codes.

I recently got Naruto 4, so i went online and searched for some codes to manually type in. I went to the japanese section and type them in.

Then i saved them and it told me to eject the disk.

Now this is the important part. When you eject the disk, the wii will automatically reset itself. If you had action replay inside a GCOS multigame image, the wii will reset to the GCOS menu asking you to select a game. This will keep happening over and over, so maybe that is why people said that AR no longer works even with gcos.

However, if you only used a GCOS multigame disk as a loader for an AR disk, then when the wii resets itself, it will reset back to the original AR menu and this time, it will work when you eject the disk. Everything will be normal and you can switch the AR disk to the game disk (i.e. naruto 4).

I have unlocked all the chars in naruto 4 and all the stuff in gnc warioware using this method on my wii, so i know it works.

The setup i have now for AR is the following- A gcos multigame burned image with AR 1.14b inside. I labeled it AR loader.

I use this image to get to the AR menu, and RIGHT AFTER i exchange that disk with another one i called AR (real disk) - which is simply the AR burned on a disk without GCOS . THen when action replay asks to switch disks, the wii will reset, and this time will load the AR from the new disk, and that will work.

so gcos multigame AR does not work by itself.
And regular AR disk is blocked from being read by the 3.0 firmware.

However, combining the gcos multigame disk as a loader for the regular AR disk will work. You just gotta swap the disks when you get to the AR menu and then activate some codes and press start until it says "eject disk". WHen you press eject disk, the wii will reset itself and load the regular AR disk without problems. THen you will be able to enable codes and eject that disk without it resetting again, and now you can swap that disk with a game disk.

Hope this helps anyone, and i havent tried any of the freeloader features built into AR since my wii is partially region free.