Duplicate Weather and News Channel

[Sniffer]

I have a PAL Wii (2.2E) with a Wiikey installed.

I loaded the USA version of Pokemon Battle and it tried to do an update...........and appeared to succeed.

Everything still works but I now have an extra Weather Channel and an extra News Channel - neither of them work.

Also, I've noticed that my original Weather Channel is slightly different and asks me to click start to begin as if it's starting from the very beginning.

I can still access all the settings and still play all the same games - anyone come across this before ?

I believe I can backup all the game saves and the Mii data and reformat the Wii to possibly get rid of them but is there an easier way ?

:confused:

[lenselijer]

you should have removed the update before burning the image...

[Sniffer]

you should have removed the update before burning the image...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing :D

Any other pearls of wisdom ?

[AceMilo]

Ever since paper mario, ppl are still dumb enough to update their wii with a different region game. I don't get it... There's nothing you can do besides formatting the wii. Try updating again with a game from your region.

[Sniffer]

Ever since paper mario, ppl are still dumb enough to update their wii with a different region game. I don't get it... There's nothing you can do besides formatting the wii. Try updating again with a game from your region.

As I said.......stating the bleeding obvious ain't exactly helping.

Paper Mario tried to do an update but then realised it was the latest firmware and stopped - I assumed that Pokemon would do the same as I have the latest firmware....which is aligned to the US firmware revision....although for some reason it obviously does something to the channels - probably to do with the online capabilities !!

If anyone actually has anything positive or helpful to add then post away.....

[lenselijer]

reset your wii and stop whining ?

[akayfortyseven]

Nothing you can do except reset your wii and use brick blocker to remove the update on future burns. Or, wait till nintendo releases another pal update which may remove it.

[Sniffer]

reset your wii and stop whining ?

That's helpful - thanks!

Any instructions you can point me in the right direction ?

[Sniffer]

Nothing you can do except reset your wii and use brick blocker to remove the update on future burns. Or, wait till nintendo releases another pal update which may remove it.

OK, cheers - any idea whether it will still keep all the Mii high scores in Wii Sports if I back the Miis up (along with the game saves) and then restore them?

[akayfortyseven]

No, it wont, since you only transfer the mii itself, ive done it before. Personally, Id just wait for an update, there will be one in a few months probably. Are you sure you cant delete them through data management?

[Sniffer]

No, it wont, since you only transfer the mii itself, ive done it before. Personally, Id just wait for an update, there will be one in a few months probably. Are you sure you cant delete them through data management?

Yes, pretty sure - it looks like you can only delete the voting and Internet channels (plus any VC games) and not anything else

[link-]

just move the channels to another empty tab on the right and wait for an update.

[Sniffer]

just move the channels to another empty tab on the right and wait for an update.

Hmm.....how do you move the channels ?

[AceMilo]

Hmm.....how do you move the channels ?

Grab it with A+B and move it where you want.

[anh]

I have a similar problem with an NTSC-J system. Duplicate Weather and Internet Channels, but trying to access the Wii's configuration menu results in the Opera error page. Are there any other ways to reset the console?

[Lettuce]

Ive got the same problem. Ive tried the system format, but that doesnt delete the channels, there still there!! Im guessing they must be tied in with the firmware? Hopefully having 2 duplicate channels wont effect any future updates? Is there no other way to reset the whole console other that system format, maybe removing the battery?

[Nawz]

Yeah, i have this problem too. Doesn't bother me that much but i called Nintendo EU on friday and they said they would get in touch. When i speaking to one of the customer representative he said "This is the first time i've heard of this problem, none of my colleagues have heard of it before. We will need to report this to higher support team" or something along the lines.

[Lettuce]

Are they going to get back in touch with you then??

[Nawz]

They never rang me today....
Tomorrow i will chase them up and post an update on the situation.

[fanni]

Would like to hear what they have to say maybe there is finally a way of deleting them

[Nawz]

They just contacted me. I have to take some screenshots and email them. They will get back in touch in 4 hours or tomorrow.
They probably will send me some sort of disc that forms the nintendo wii, im not to sure.

[fanni]

Nice one keep us updated :)

[Nawz]

Email sent. Waiting for reply/telephone call. If you are a NTSC/U/J user i don't know if this will help you....since i have a pal console.

[fanni]

Email sent. Waiting for reply/telephone call. If you are a NTSC/U/J user i don't know if this will help you....since i have a pal console.

I'm UK as well mate ;)

[Nawz]

Dear Customer, thank you for your e-mail.

Thanks very much for this. We forwarded your images on to Nintendo of Europe, who should be now analysing the problem. In the mean time, we can certainly replace your Wii Console to solve the issue, so if you would like to do this, please follow the instructions below.

As your Wii is under warranty, we will happily replace it for you. Please send it to the service centre address below with a copy of your proof of purchase, your return address details and a short description of the fault. We will try to replace the unit within 7 working days.

In this case, we should be able to guarantee a transfer of your saved data, and all Virtual Console games and Wii Points will automatically be transferred to your replacement Wii.

Kind regards,

Jackson

Your Nintendo Team


I asked the guy to email me if there is an alternative instead of sending in my nintendo wii. I guess Nintendo Europe will try and solve this problem.

[ckw0n]

It's good to see there maybe another option for you guys...


The moral of the story is.....

Always update through the web. If a disc asks you to update, and you're already current- don't play it!

[glimpse79]

So there is no way ro remove them?

I hope that a future PAL update no cause more problems..

[Nawz]

Dear Customer, thank you for your e-mail.

There will be no software update to resolve this problem that we are aware of. In fact they need your Wii to ascertain what the problem is so that they can fix it. I do urge you to reconsider letting us replace it for you so that the matter can be fully resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

Kind regards,

Your Nintendo Team

--- UPDATE ---
Okay i got some good and bad news.
So the person that is dealing with my duplicate channels case is awesome. Such a down to earth guy.
He knew my wii was chipped so i didn't bother denying it...However, i mentioned i only chipped it to play wii import games since other action replay discs didn't work anymore. And he agreed that was fine, he would've done that himself *shh*
So after that conversation he said that my wii's warrenty maybe invalid and i would have to pay a £52 replacement fee, but he told me not to worry abut it and keep my wii instead since the duplicate channels don't really harm the system.
I later told him how i got the duplicate channels, i mentioned about having a 2.1 [region] console and a 2.1 [different region] game will not screw your wii up but add duplicate dead channels.
I also told him a 2.1 [region] console and a 2.2 [different region] game would screw your wii up.
I later told him that, this is not a hardware issue, it is a software issue. You can add channels and you can remove them, simple.
He told me that he would contact Nintendo Europe and tell them about this info. but for them to make/send a disc that would fix the nintendo wii they need to contact Nintendo Japan. The reason is because of security measurements and what not. He said that it might happen it might not.

I also told him that, Nintendo have to act now....it is only a matter of time until a commercial company like Action Replay makes a import loader and would create this problem, and he also agreed.

I'll update everyone when i get news, probably tomorrow, monday etc..

[davepsp]

thank u for the info u are a credit to this forum:D

[Fe2O3]

Hmmm I highly doubt nintendo will make a disc to 'unbrick' your Wii. If I were the people at nintendo Japan I'd laugh my ass off at the request quite honestly. Only to play imports, yup and jail is filled with innocent people too ~:-) Tough luck and go buy a new one or deal with the channels.

An action replay or whatever that creates this problem is also not a problem for nintendo. They will never fix any issues that something as an action replay creates. It undermines their region coding and if they fix issues associated with action replay they might as well take away all region protection. Besides, if they are recalling Wiis to cut the legs (costs them more then they gain I believe) what makes you think they'll do anything to support modding or getting around region coding.

I also doubt a firmware update would do anything to your duplicate channels. In fact at best it will update all four channels and make them functional. At worst it will update two and then completely brick your Wii cause for some reason you have 4 and the FW isn't designed to handle that ... I'd be cautious with all FW updates, even for my own region if I had double channels ... The only way a FW update might fix this is if they specifically put in code to check for defective channels, which would go back to my point above. Not very likely.

Sending it in to Nintendo right now would mean you get back a 100% legs cut Wii, and perhaps a D2C with the legs cut even just to be sure. So no more 'safe' modding, or modding at all. That is, untill the 'next' gen modchips that most likely will go somewhere on the mainboard.

[Nawz]

I am going to keep my wii anyway.
And my wii isn't proper bricked. Just has dead channels...i don't know if thats what you call bricked.

[Fe2O3]

I am going to keep my wii anyway.
And my wii isn't proper bricked. Just has dead channels...i don't know if thats what you call bricked.

Like I said, live with the channels (not like you have to look at the channel display all day anyways)

But my point was that any future firmware update might worsen it, as the Wii is not supposed to have 2 'defect' channels.

[glimpse79]

anyone tries with Big Brain Academy_USA?

...someone tells that the game update unbrick the wii

[Nawz]

In terms of "unbrick" do you mean remove the dead channels?

[glimpse79]

In terms of "unbrick" do you mean remove the dead channels?

yes... but i never try

[Nawz]

Where did you get your answer from? Source??

[glimpse79]

Here (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=65234)

But seems that only work on NTSC wii not PAL

[Nawz]

I gathered that....but if there was a pal version of this that would be happy. So im asking who told you this works? And where.

[SPIDERMA]

i put Big Brain Academy usa in my pal wii by misstake and done the update and this game was the one that gave me the 2 duplicate channels

[leigh.chris]

I gathered that....but if there was a pal version of this that would be happy. So im asking who told you this works? And where.

Hi Nawz, did you manage to get any further with this?

Have you tried running the PAL Mario Party 8?

I read in this forum it may resolve the problem but im not sure if i read if it was a lower version or not, either way, im going to try running it to see if it tries to update my PAL wii.

(I have semi-brick - no settings page - games play fine)

Regards

Chris

[Nawz]

Nope news will come on monday-tuesday.

[leigh.chris]

awesome thanks...

like i said i would try the Mario Party 8 PAL game, mustn't have had an update in as it didn't work...(WoxXx at this post http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=583967&posted=1#post583967 also confirmed it didn't resolve a similar problem - 2 of each of the wii channels weather and news) or the update version number was same as the one already on my PAL wii... :(

[Nawz]

Even though i may get news on monday/tuesday i really doubt nintendo will make a disc fix, who knows. But they probably will add some sort of safety checker in future updates. So i guess we just have to wait and see till the replies come.

[leigh.chris]

tbh Nawz, im not gonna get my hopes up, maybe i will speak with nintendo, let them know i ran an NTSC update on my PAL console, maybe i will get a replacement wii... you dont happen to have the number you dialled to hand do you?

Thanks

*EDIT* hrm thinking that through... how would i have run the update if i didnt have a modchip of some sorts?!

[Nawz]

Don't call them yet. Wait till i get some notice etc

[leigh.chris]

hrm ok *waits impatiently* :cool:

[Nawz]

Bad news guys,

Nintendo Europe said that they have no intention to make this software disc or an update that will remove the channels. However, nintendo of America are apparently working on a case similar...but it is at low priority. Your will not be replaced for free. A £52 Charge will be placed.

One method i would ask people to do is remove the wii battery boot it up (it will freeze at home and safety), plug back the wii memory and restart it and see what happens.

[leigh.chris]

suppose if it gets really desperate £52 is better than 180, hell i can mod a friends wii for £52 ;)

GL

Chris

[Nawz]

Duplicate channels aren't really a huge problem though. Chris you get msn? If you do please PM me it or post it. Thanks.

[Fe2O3]

See as I said, nintendo will not do anything about dupe channels cause it's not their problem. We'll, they'll fix it for a price and they're laughing their asses off at anyone paying for it as it is caused by 'illegal' use of a Wii.

I am awaiting the Wii FW that allows you to effectively delete channels however. Because as more and more channels are available eventually Wii will get full and you'd have to have the option to delete em ^^. VC games already put you to a max if you are dirty richt I think hehe.

This would have to come with a FW update though, so you'd need alteast a semi working Wii got get this update and get the delete channels option to delete anything wrong on your Wii.

[Nawz]

you can already delete channels. But not the channels that came with the console i.e. news and forecast.

[mbriody]

I don't have the dupe channels but I have lost the settings menu. I only just got a network adapter so the connection was never set up and now I can't get in to set it up.

Anyone tried the battery suggestion above? Will it help me? Sorry for the dumb question but does this involve disassembly?

I have a Wiikey - is there anything is the config of the Wiikey disk that can help reset my Wii?

[glimpse79]

any news about this prob?

[bedimon]

I removed the battery bfore (though didnt boot the wii). tha only thing happened is that my calendar was resetted

[Lettuce]

Well just update the Wii to version 3.0e, and the duplicate weather channels are still there :( . But on the Plus side everything still works :D