Forza 2 causing Xbox 360's to come to a screeching halt - no video?

[Zeus]

A large number of gamers on the Xbox forums are reporting that their Xbox 360 units are suffering from a new type of defect, one which results in no video when they turn on their console. Audio channels seem to be working fine, but the new problem presents gamers with a black screen due do an issue with a video. Since the original post at <A href="http://forums.xbox.com/1/13392007/ShowPost.aspx#13392007" target="_blank">Xbox.com</a>, scores of gamers have confirmed that they have the same issue as a result of playing Forza 2.

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[prodriguez32]

That same exact thing happened to me in the beginning of May. I was watching a movie dvd and then the screen distorted. I shut it off then back on and no video. I sent it in to get fixed by microsoft and all they did was replace my unit. Its a shame because up until then my 360 worked perfectly. Now the replacement unit freezes up every 3rd time I turn the unit on. Thanks Microsoft!!!!!

[blade47167]

Thats what you get for buying MS POS360.

[Jarua]

I have the exact same problem.

[satel]

all xbox 360's should be pulled out of the market. microcrap should leave gaming scene to Sony & Nintendo & just stick to making patches for windows.

[bonsc]

More and more i hear stuff like this the more am starting to think what a load of crap the 360 is.The best thing is M$h1t always say its not therefault its your fault

[cloporte]

It's really not normal that M$

is not getting sued , because of the poor built of the 360 ,

But i wonder who will have the guts and money to sue them !

off course i had a 3 RLOD too .

thank you M$ you first introduced us to the BSOD with window snow we got the

RLOD with the 360 and what else ? i'm pretty sure the color will we green

so it will be something like green ***** of death

...

[Sinar]

Noobs blaming forza 2 it looks like a simple case of their gpu's becoming faulty and dying or solder melting from the video out. Microsoft has good repair support,warranty services and some stores offer long 1yr returns (Why put up with a refurb). The hardware is nowhere near the quality of what you would expect after the last 20 years of gaming.
(I hope this never happens to me :mad:)

It just remains to be seen if ps3 will really last the failure mark of one year, maybe sony is right to charge so much and loose so much per console they seemingly are well built and of good quality an example microsoft should follow

[C-5]

Every major game release or system update is blamed for crashing 360's. The fact is that the consoles are a ticking time-bomb waiting to RLOD. This doesn't stop me from enjoying the hell out of mine.

[arnold101]

It's really not normal that M$

is not getting sued , because of the poor built of the 360 ,

But i wonder who will have the guts and money to sue them !

off course i had a 3 RLOD too .

thank you M$ you first introduced us to the BSOD with window snow we got the

RLOD with the 360 and what else ? i'm pretty sure the color will we green

so it will be something like green ***** of death

...
quote <_< never seen a consol error, thx marciosoft

[alkalinetrio]

Noobs blaming forza 2 it looks like a simple case of their gpu's becoming faulty and dying or solder melting from the video out. Microsoft has good repair support,warranty services and some stores offer long 1yr returns (Why put up with a refurb). The hardware is nowhere near the quality of what you would expect after the last 20 years of gaming.
(I hope this never happens to me :mad:)

It just remains to be seen if ps3 will really last the failure mark of one year, maybe sony is right to charge so much and loose so much per console they seemingly are well built and of good quality an example microsoft should follow

a year?

360's were doing this from day one!!

[Au{R}oN]

Thats what i call KILLER APP!!
Yeah it KILL the console... hahahaha

[Xenogears V]

Forza 2 throw it in the garbage, is the place that deserves.

[mac456]

/\/\/\/\/\/\ are u you crazy, forza 2 is a top game....

[Carcus]

The same thing happened to my 360 about 6 months ago. It was doing this "blacked out" video thing for 2 days before it actually 3ROLDed. I personally think it is due to the solder melting and making the connection to the gpu short out. My 360 was out of warranty so I went ahead and fixed the X-Clamps myself. Low and behold my 360 has been working flawlessly for the past 6 months since the repair. It also only cost me $7.48 to fix the unit instead of sending it to MS and paying $180 which they originally quoted me.

[Sinar]

a year? 360's were doing this from day one!!
Most launch bugs bad power supplies/ventilation and some bad apple boxes, it takes a fair while playing for the xclamps and heat to cause its problems.
Apart from some people that have bad luck the slightly better than average built 360s last just beyond the 1 year expiry date then fail, This would be why so many pay ms for repairs and hence a one year benchmark is more than an acceptable test.
It would be nice if we could see the actual number of failures vs total unit sales
over time.

[lc204]

The same thing happened to my 360 about 6 months ago. It was doing this "blacked out" video thing for 2 days before it actually 3ROLDed. I personally think it is due to the solder melting and making the connection to the gpu short out. My 360 was out of warranty so I went ahead and fixed the X-Clamps myself. Low and behold my 360 has been working flawlessly for the past 6 months since the repair. It also only cost me $7.48 to fix the unit instead of sending it to MS and paying $180 which they originally quoted me.

Can you explain how you fixed the X-Clamps yourself?

[mystic54]

Every major game release or system update is blamed for crashing 360's. The fact is that the consoles are a ticking time-bomb waiting to RLOD. This doesn't stop me from enjoying the hell out of mine.
THANK YOU! I have been saying the exact same thing for months. Everybody always blames whatever has been just released (game wise). It is a console problem not a game problem.

[pinho2005]

THANK YOU! I have been saying the exact same thing for months. Everybody always blames whatever has been just released (game wise). It is a console problem not a game problem.

totally agree, and i believe they will need another update to fix it.

[narutoramen]

nice. just when i get the urge to buy a 360, i get reminded why i shouldn't.

[mystic54]

totally agree, and i believe they will need another update to fix it.
An update for a manufacturing problem? I am not sure you are realizing the issue with the 360.

I myself haven't had an issue with the 360 yet but it always seems like majority doesn't have issues with theirs but the people that do, make the biggest noise.

[hacktek]

Every major game release or system update is blamed for crashing 360's. The fact is that the consoles are a ticking time-bomb waiting to RLOD. This doesn't stop me from enjoying the hell out of mine.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Also, the poster of this is a dumbass since this has nothing to do with forza.

[snipersnake]

THANK YOU! I have been saying the exact same thing for months. Everybody always blames whatever has been just released (game wise). It is a console problem not a game problem.
yup, the bending of the mobo due to poor xclamps

[gonepostl]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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[bruce_ko]

prob its GPU problem, just replace the x-clamp.
here's a guide on how to replace the x-clamp on your 360 mobo.

[festwa]

I had the same problem after a dash update about a year ago.
Reset the video settings and all was good.

1.Remove any discs from the disc tray.
2.Turn the console off.
3.Turn the console on.

(Note If you are using an Xbox 360 Wireless Controller, turn the console on by using the Xbox Guide button on the controller. Make sure that you use the player 1 controller when you do this.)

4.As the console starts, press and hold the Y button, and then pull the right trigger at the same time, keep holding them down until the console turns off.
5.The Xbox Dashboard resets the display settings to the default settings, and then automatically restarts the console.

Thought it may be worth a try if your suffering

[humpmasterflex]

Man, M$ needs to just stop trying. What makes you think their Hardware that they release will be good in the first place, when first of all they cannot get their software straight *cough*vista*cough*. No wonder why they droped Vista prices by 200 bucks.

This video really does suite the 360 after all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZQA2zGihCs

[Scorpion3]

Rofl. I'll just leave this thread to the pathetic, ignorant Sony fanboys. :) Something bad happens, blame MS! They didn't make the game? Who Cares, it's their faults anyway! :rolleyes: What's funny though, it doesn't sound like a problem with Forza at all, it sounds like an obvious problem with the video input.

[gonepostl]

Every major game release or system update is blamed for crashing 360's. The fact is that the consoles are a ticking time-bomb waiting to RLOD. This doesn't stop me from enjoying the hell out of mine.

There's two ways of looking at that. Obviously certain games are gonna stretch the system more then others. So in essence it is due to the game and the high polygon count causing the gpu to warm up real good. Am I right? Sorta

Rofl. I'll just leave this thread to the pathetic, ignorant Sony fanboys. :) Something bad happens, blame MS! They didn't make the game? Who Cares, it's their faults anyway! :rolleyes: What's funny though, it doesn't sound like a problem with Forza at all, it sounds like an obvious problem with the video input.

Your fukin ignorant. Ya the video problem MAY not be caused to overheating and that seems to be the case. In which case you may be correct. If your saying that it isn't Microsoft's fault for other peoples games refer to my excellent gpu example. Fuker doesn't heat up without the help of the game obviousely. My ati 9800 just died yesterday because of teh same reason. I was 2-boxin WOW, fragments on screen, ejected the card, applied more thermo goo and a bigger fan. Back on. Improper cooling standards + graphical intensive games = big duh.

Keep calling me ignorant I'm lovin it.

[Calidrifter]

Rofl. I'll just leave this thread to the pathetic, ignorant Sony fanboys. :) Something bad happens, blame MS! They didn't make the game? Who Cares, it's their faults anyway! :rolleyes: What's funny though, it doesn't sound like a problem with Forza at all, it sounds like an obvious problem with the video input.
You need to understand that ultimately it is MS fault. If you are going to sell a product, make sure it does what it was intended to do. You guys say it's a "Games" console...well.. the "Games" are killing the system...MS needs to acknowledge this and fix it.

[Scorpion3]

You need to understand that ultimately it is MS fault. If you are going to sell a product, make sure it does what it was intended to do. You guys say it's a "Games" console...well.. the "Games" are killing the system...MS needs to acknowledge this and fix it.

I agree, since they were the publisher of the game they do hold some fault but all of it like the some people think, that's just pure fanboy-ism. When a game like this or Guitar Hero makes problems for the 360, I can see when someone can blame Microsoft but when they give the tools to make a game without any problems which has been done right more than just several times, it's the devs who are screwing up when making the games, not Microsoft. That's like someone who gives you a set of rules, and if you break them, you blame them despite them telling you how to do it right.

BTW, love how you automatically assumed I was calling you ignorant Gonepostl, is it because you made a fanboy remark? Cause...I don't think I mentioned you at all. :confused:

[kcvfr400]

I agree, since they were the publisher of the game they do hold some fault but all of it like the some people think, that's just pure fanboy-ism. When a game like this or Guitar Hero makes problems for the 360, I can see when someone can blame Microsoft but when they give the tools to make a game without any problems which has been done right more than just several times, it's the devs who are screwing up when making the games, not Microsoft. That's like someone who gives you a set of rules, and if you break them, you blame them despite them telling you how to do it right.

BTW, love how you automatically assumed I was calling you ignorant Gonepostl, is it because you made a fanboy remark? Cause...I don't think I mentioned you at all. :confused:

But your reasoning is dependant that the hardware is very stable and not been overclocked to much and has decent cooling, which we all know not to be the case. Also then you are implying that 360 games have hit there peak or they will crash the machine if they try to get more out of the hardware via pushing the tools and making tools that push more out of the 360, which would be a real shame and show that microsoft have failed with the 360 then.

[Carcus]

Can you explain how you fixed the X-Clamps yourself?

Go here it will explain everything on the process of replacing the X-Clamps

The "official" X-clamp Replacement Success Thread (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595746)

[Scorpion3]

But your reasoning is dependant that the hardware is very stable and not been overclocked to much and has decent cooling, which we all know not to be the case. Also then you are implying that 360 games have hit there peak or they will crash the machine if they try to get more out of the hardware via pushing the tools and making tools that push more out of the 360, which would be a real shame and show that microsoft have failed with the 360 then.

It doesn't seem that physical aspects of the console is what's making games do this kind of thing, and it's not about the 360 being pushed too far because if that was the case games like Dead Rising which have great graphics with an almost infinite possibilities in gameplay would give the 360 problems as well. Basically, Hardware doesn't apply here, it's all software problems. Like I said, Microsoft gave them developing kits and showed them exactly how to make a game with them, and not **** up coding to cause something like this, yet it still happens. The same could happen for the Wii or the PS3.