Is Wiikey the best?

[MrHockey20]

I currently have a Wiikey and had someone install it for me and I was told it was the best. I still love to play my gamecube games but I can't since their update is taking ever so long. My question is if there are any modchips that work just as good with Wii games and still will work with the Gamecube games? Keep in mind I dont know how to do any of the hex programming or whatever is used to get things working. I just like the plug and play and if I have to upadte it I can just put a dvd in the wii.

thanks guys

[Icefeldt]

the "WiiD" Modchip is exactly as good as the Wiikey, but has the Advantage that alll Gamecube Games work flawlessly.

[Sousanator]

you can still play gc games with wiikey, they are only a very few that dont work
as for any other modchip, just about all of them do what you want

[MrHockey20]

with Wiid can u put in a setup disc that updates the firmware and stuff on it or do u have to connect the cchip to the computer?

[Icefeldt]

with Wiid can u put in a setup disc that updates the firmware and stuff on it or do u have to connect the cchip to the computer?


updates via DVD

see: http://www.wiidmod.com/

[Slowking]

My advice: Build one yourself. If you don't want to I would take a Wiinja. (they have many years of expereance with the Gamecube[their drivecode was one of the bests and often used in softmodes] and since the drivecodes are basically the same...)

[numms]

WiiKey is only missing the audiofix, so you should still be able to play around 90-95% of the gamecube games.

Cyclowiz has a proven DVD upgrade feature and supports the audiofix.
Wiid and wiinja both have the audiofix as well, but the wiinja does not have upgrade functionality to the best of my knowledge.

[Slowking]

Wiinja Deluxe is updateable, since the code is stored in the EEPROM. (just in case someone argues, that pics are not updateable)

[_bell_]

Wiinja Deluxe is updateable, since the code is stored in the EEPROM. (just in case someone argues, that pics are not updateable)

Hey... The 12F683 has 256 bytes of eeprom. Wiinja v2 uses at least 700 bytes of drivecode. Are you telling me that in Wiinja deluxe all the drivecode fits withing the 256 bytes of eeprom?

[wares]

Don't get a wiikey. Even the "official" forums have been silenced/censored about the ever late upgrade ability.

The Wiinja Deluxe is easily the best commercial modchip. There's a lot of confusion on this board, as well as others about the wiinja because there have been 3 wiinja's released. But this just goes to show how far along wiinja is compared to their competition.
wares.

[Sebastian25]

Hell Tha F$#% No!

Don't Buy A Wiikey. Get The Clones, Or Buy A Wiija Deluxe.

[shadow_cruiser]

I read last night for 5-6 hours aboout Wii modchips. I've found that the openwii chip is the best solution.

*$15 for chip and comes pre-wired for easy install
*open source so if the original developer decides to quit the project, anyone can take over
*updates are out once every couple weeks. Not like commercial chips where you gotta wait and wait, and wait some more with empty promises
*features of this chip are already surpassing those of commercial chips

http://www.openwii.org/

With this chip, its sky's the limit!!

Wiikey has really good publicity but if you read other forums, Wiifree and Openwii are just as popular. After being a Qoob chip owner for 3 years, I got fed up with the commercial companies. They just take the money and run.

[MrHockey20]

Well I have had my Wiikey for a few months now but I have been waiting for this update forever. I want to play my gamecube backups as well... but most do not work...

:/

[zikronix]

i have a wiinja deluxe and its been upgraded and it works fine. the only thing that doesnt work is the cube disc that i put more than one game on...(multi game dvd) not to be confused with multi dsc games like resident evil.

[duros]

Well I have had my Wiikey for a few months now but I have been waiting for this update forever. I want to play my gamecube backups as well... but most do not work...

:/

Most GC games work.
Maybe it's just most of your backups that don't.

[Hanafuda]

wiinja deluxe requires a swapdisk for a lot of gamecube games? I see download links for swapdisk iso's on their website. How big of a problem is this? I have a japanese wii and would mostly use (U) GCN commercial and backups when playing Gamecube. Is this going to be a problem with the Wiinja Deluxe?

[Cantenna]

wiikey "Yeah! We are posting our fw update "around the 15th" la, la, laaa.....
"Its now June?, la, la, la.....:rolleyes:

[swiftlydead]

I read last night for 5-6 hours aboout Wii modchips. I've found that the openwii chip is the best solution.

*$15 for chip and comes pre-wired for easy install
*open source so if the original developer decides to quit the project, anyone can take over
*updates are out once every couple weeks. Not like commercial chips where you gotta wait and wait, and wait some more with empty promises
*features of this chip are already surpassing those of commercial chips

http://www.openwii.org/

With this chip, its sky's the limit!!

Wiikey has really good publicity but if you read other forums, Wiifree and Openwii are just as popular. After being a Qoob chip owner for 3 years, I got fed up with the commercial companies. They just take the money and run.

does it support audiofix?

[_bell_]

does it support audiofix?

No, none of the Open Source chips do. Personally I think $15 for an OpenSource chip is a ripoff. You can propably build a PIC programmer and buy a 12F629 for around $5 and program it with yaosm, WiiFree or the leaked Wiinja V2 code.

In fact you can get a kit here:http://psx-scene.com/forums/wii-modchips/57238-programmer-kit-atmega8l-us6-99-pic12f629-us5-99-a.html

$7 for an Atmega kit (OpenWii) and $6 for a PIC kit (yaosm, WiiFree, Wiinja V2 (leaked code))

So basicly you can build your own programmer and program your own OpenWii chip for $7 instead of getting a preprogrammed chip for $15.

[shadow_cruiser]

No, none of the Open Source chips do. Personally I think $15 for an OpenSource chip is a ripoff. You can propably build a PIC programmer and buy a 12F629 for around $5 and program it with yaosm, WiiFree or the leaked Wiinja V2 code.

In fact you can get a kit here:http://psx-scene.com/forums/wii-modchips/57238-programmer-kit-atmega8l-us6-99-pic12f629-us5-99-a.html

$7 for an Atmega kit (OpenWii) and $6 for a PIC kit (yaosm, WiiFree, Wiinja V2 (leaked code))

So basicly you can build your own programmer and program your own OpenWii chip for $7 instead of getting a preprogrammed chip for $15.

Actually, openwii is the only one that supports audiofix which will be implemented in the next release.

See here
http://www.openwii.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1459&highlight=#1459

and here
http://www.openwii.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1639&highlight=#1639

Secondly, you can do it for a lot cheaper i know but I was mentioning this for those who didn't want to go out and build their own chip. Triforce on the openwii forums, sells the chip with firmware 2.2 programmed, so its upgradable via DVD in the future without the need of a programmer.

[duros]

screw the haters.
wiikey is the breast!

The wiikey team are the ones who suck.
Get wiid or something if you want updates.

[arashb]

all i care about is saferom flash so far wiikey is the only 1 i see with it.. runs all the wii games perfectly and that makes me happy :)

[_bell_]

Actually, openwii is the only one that supports audiofix which will be implemented in the next release.

First you say that it supports audiofix then you say it will be implemented. ??
Also none of the threads currently says that it will support it in the next release.

Those of us who have read other post by rhcp can easily figure out that he is not the kind of guy that would give the "competition" the audiofix before it was implemented in OpenWii unless he has failed implementing it himself and hopes that someone else can figure out how it works. That's my theory at least. Most likely the code posted is dissassembled drive code from Wiinja.

I really do hope that they do include audiofix in the next release, that would be great step for the OpenSource modchips but I wouldn't go as far as claiming that it will. Actually I hope that before that they will put in some checks that stops any program from wiping the chip. Right now a console modded with OpenWii can be put out of business with one simple DI-command.

[numms]

all i care about is saferom flash so far wiikey is the only 1 i see with it.. runs all the wii games perfectly and that makes me happy :)
That's funny. Perhaps you could tell the rest of us how to flash that chip? While the chip advertises that it has bad flash recovery, they have yet to release the method making it just as valuable as the "Built in audiofix" they also advertise.

Also, all these people suggesting open source chips are doing nothing at all to address the issue at hand. The original poster specifically asked for a plug and play chip and not wanting to have to use a computer to program the chip. In addition to that, since none of the open source chips offer the audiofix, they wouldn't meet the requirements of the request based on that as well. It's all well and good that you want to try and convince as many people as you can to use the same type of chip as you're using, but they made it clear they didn't want to go that route.

Sorry if this rant seems a little longwinded, but why do people insist on turning any thread into the wars that they always become even when specific guidelines are laid out by the person starting the thread??

[Cantenna]

Just found this off their website.

We apologize again for the delay, But we are doing everything we can to release the update sooner.
Our Development Team is currently away on Training Course, titled "Introduction to Programming."

We expect the update shotly after graduation.

Thank you for your patience,

Wikey.

Fun Facts!
:eek: DID YOU KNOW!:Wikey Development Team spend's their spare time watching Paint Dry!?.........I sure didn't!?:eek:

[duros]

Just found this off their website.

We apologize again for the delay, But we are doing everything we can to release the update sooner.
Our Development Team is currently away on Training Course, titled "Introduction to Programming."

We expect the update shotly after graduation.

Thank you for your patience,

Wikey.

Fun Facts!
:eek: DID YOU KNOW!:Wikey Development Team spend's their spare time watching Paint Dry!?.........I sure didn't!?:eek:

Why post fake wiikey updates?? Boredom?

[MrHockey20]

All I was asking for when I posted this was to see what other chips are out there that support Wii games just as good as the WiiKey. I have had the Wiikeyy for a few months, but I really want to play some Gamecube games like Windwaker. I can't though since the Audiofix doesn't work.

Is there any chip that suports Wii games as good as the Wiikey but also does a better job with the Gamecube games?

I also need a chip that I can update by burning a disc and putting it in the Wii. I cannot program them because I don't have the abilities to do so.


Once again, thanks.

[idunder]

Just found this off their website.

We apologize again for the delay, But we are doing everything we can to release the update sooner.
Our Development Team is currently away on Training Course, titled "Introduction to Programming."

We expect the update shotly after graduation.

Thank you for your patience,

Wikey.

Fun Facts!
:eek: DID YOU KNOW!:Wikey Development Team spend's their spare time watching Paint Dry!?.........I sure didn't!?:eek:

hahhaha

In all seriousness it's been confirmed that they (Wiikey) don't actually do their coding themselves. They have some 3rd party doing it.

Big surprise.

What a joke company.

[numms]

Why post fake wiikey updates?? Boredom?
ummm, because fake wiikey updates are the only ones you can find right now?

All I was asking for when I posted this was to see what other chips are out there that support Wii games just as good as the WiiKey. I have had the Wiikeyy for a few months, but I really want to play some Gamecube games like Windwaker. I can't though since the Audiofix doesn't work.

Is there any chip that suports Wii games as good as the Wiikey but also does a better job with the Gamecube games?

I also need a chip that I can update by burning a disc and putting it in the Wii. I cannot program them because I don't have the abilities to do so.


Once again, thanks.
In this particular example, the wiikey will work fine for you. There are a very limited number of games that contain the audiofix and to the best of my knowledge, LoZ WW isn't one of them. If you're looking for a chip that you can plug into your system and update via DVD, I think that only the cyclowiz and wiinja deluxe are the only chips capable of that right now, although the need to update via dvd should not really be an issue as the current version of mod chips already do all they'll be able to. You would really have no reason for additional updates as everything works fine right now. However, when wii bios is cracked, there will most likely be a whole new type of chips available which will need access to different points on the board making the current gen of chips obsolete. This future mod is only speculation as neither I nor anyone else is able to see the future.

[Nomar1245]

The above poster suggests Cyclowiz or Wiid. I would have to second that, but you should look at Wiid a little more than Cyclowiz. I had a Cyclowiz installed, but when I went to update it shorted out and caught fire.

I'm not saying that is the norm, at all, but I have heard others having trouble after updating Cyclowiz(not fires persay, but their chips no longer operate.)

I just opted for the WiiKey myself to replace it because of the high level of Wii compatibility, but if it were not available I would go with Wiid.

Hope that helped some.:)

[shadow_cruiser]

I see there is a long thread at psx-scene about the "Wiikey Firmware ETA Date".I also notice people talking about this in this thread, so here's my theory after reading countless threads.

The Wiikey team is outsourcing their coding to a 3rd party developer which is emu_kidd. There are other 3rd party coders I'm sure but this is the only one thats been confirmed.

emu_kidd has said he's really really busy with university **** right now, personal stuff, etc and cannot attend his projects (GCOS, nesds, etc) because he doesn't have time.

On another forum he states he's going to start his N64 emulator project mid-July for the Wii once he finalizes a "project" he's doing right now. This leads me to believe his current project is the Wiikey update.

On assumption, the new Wiikey update will come mid-July due to the fact I gave above. On another forum, a member who keeps in contact with the Wiikey team states the update is coming definitely but he doesn't know the date.

On a final note, I have a feeling this is the first and last firmware update from the Wiikey team. I think they are only releasing this because they advertised audiofix and just want to get this update out there to shut everyone up since they did say an update was coming. Secondly, there are no major problems with the Wiikey except audio-streaming games so there's no real reason for them to release another update

This whole scenario looks like the Qoob 1.4 bios update fiasco all over again. Only with the Qoob, they promised it but took off in the dust. Lets see what happens with Wiikey folks!

[idunder]

I see there is a long thread at psx-scene about the "Wiikey Firmware ETA Date".I also notice people talking about this in this thread, so here's my theory after reading countless threads.

The Wiikey team is outsourcing their coding to a 3rd party developer which is emu_kidd. There are other 3rd party coders I'm sure but this is the only one thats been confirmed.

emu_kidd has said he's really really busy with university **** right now, personal stuff, etc and cannot attend his projects (GCOS, nesds, etc) because he doesn't have time.

On another forum he states he's going to start his N64 emulator project mid-July for the Wii once he finalizes a "project" he's doing right now. This leads me to believe his current project is the Wiikey update.

On assumption, the new Wiikey update will come mid-July due to the fact I gave above. On another forum, a member who keeps in contact with the Wiikey team states the update is coming definitely but he doesn't know the date.

On a final note, I have a feeling this is the first and last firmware update from the Wiikey team. I think they are only releasing this because they advertised audiofix and just want to get this update out there to shut everyone up since they did say an update was coming. Secondly, there are no major problems with the Wiikey except audio-streaming games so there's no real reason for them to release another update

This whole scenario looks like the Qoob 1.4 bios update fiasco all over again. Only with the Qoob, they promised it but took off in the dust. Lets see what happens with Wiikey folks!

I would agree.

I also believe everything leading up to now supports the possibility that the original wiikey "clones" that were out even before the "official" product hit the streets was probably the same exact design as the official product. Whoever was really behind this chip coming to market made several mistakes and has never had their act together.

It sure was fishy that the wiikey was the ONLY wii mod that had clones out the day of their official release.

Hell there was even that website that cloned the "official wikkey" site to sell "clones" Probably was one of the original people of this messed up company who also had the designs and code.

Either way, if your happy with the Wiikey, and can live without audio fix on the GC or any support if needed in the future keep it.

If not, there is really NO reason to buy a wiikey when the Cyclowiz or the Wiinja deluxe will give you what you need today and have their own in house programmers for better future changes if the need arises. (if you don't want to go open source)

Those that keep justifying Wiikey's actions and cannot see things for the way they are really need to take a step back and look at all the details.

It's been over 3 months with NO firmware updates, and has been confirmed they don't actually handle the programming for their own mod chips. Great business.

[duros]

Those that keep justifying Wiikey's actions and cannot see things for the way they are really need to take a step back and look at all the details.

It's been over 3 months with NO firmware updates, and has been confirmed they don't actually handle the programming for their own mod chips. Great business.

Stop crying jackass, no one cares about your retarded opinions.

[numms]

Stop crying jackass, no one cares about your retarded opinions.
If nobody cared, why are so many people upset about it?

[duros]

If nobody cared, why are so many people upset about it?

Speak for yourself crybaby.. :o

[bobit]

Just found this off their website.

We apologize again for the delay, But we are doing everything we can to release the update sooner.
Our Development Team is currently away on Training Course, titled "Introduction to Programming."

We expect the update shotly after graduation.

Thank you for your patience,

Wikey.

Fun Facts!
:eek: DID YOU KNOW!:Wikey Development Team spend's their spare time watching Paint Dry!?.........I sure didn't!?:eek:

it should read
We apologize again for the delay
Our Development Team are currently on the piss
and the coder got a better price else where making so called clones
the guvner has thrown a paddy and spat his dummy out
and dont know what to do next
Wikey.

[idunder]

Stop crying jackass, no one cares about your retarded opinions.

Funny, this is being talked about in most forums.

Unless your going to post some type of counter argument, shut up already. (Given your previous arguments it's apparent your either really a troll, or just clueless)

No one is making you reply to my posts. So quit trolling.

[idunder]

Speak for yourself crybaby.. :o

It's hard to believe you really are that stupid..

God, it must suck to be you.

[duros]

It's hard to believe you really are that stupid..

God, it must suck to be you.
I'm flattered you have the time to think of me so frequently.

Go back to your hot glue expert forums where people care what you think.

[numms]

Funny, this is being talked about in most forums.

Unless your going to post some type of counter argument, shut up already. (Given your previous arguments it's apparent your either really a troll, or just clueless)

No one is making you reply to my posts. So quit trolling.
Too late man. Trolls have been looking for a home since they shut down the yahoo message boards. Best bet is just to ignore him. What makes it difficult is that even blocking their stupid @ss b.s. posts, you still have to see their crap in the replies of everyone that takes the bait with their posts. Best thing to hope for is ignore them, and hope everyone else here has the same good sense. Please don't feed the trolls.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/numms/150px-DoNotFeedTroll_svg.jpg

[duros]

Too late man. Trolls have been looking for a home since they shut down the yahoo message boards. Best bet is just to ignore him. What makes it difficult is that even blocking their stupid @ss b.s. posts, you still have to see their crap in the replies of everyone that takes the bait with their posts. Best thing to hope for is ignore them, and hope everyone else here has the same good sense. Please don't feed the trolls.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/numms/150px-DoNotFeedTroll_svg.jpg
Takes one to know one huh numms ;) Don't worry.. I won't feed you or your troll friends anymore. It's amusing to watch you and your band of trolls fool yourselves into thinking you actually contribute here and people give half a crap about your crybaby rants. Go back under your bridge little one...

[idunder]

Too late man. Trolls have been looking for a home since they shut down the yahoo message boards. Best bet is just to ignore him. What makes it difficult is that even blocking their stupid @ss b.s. posts, you still have to see their crap in the replies of everyone that takes the bait with their posts. Best thing to hope for is ignore them, and hope everyone else here has the same good sense. Please don't feed the trolls.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/numms/150px-DoNotFeedTroll_svg.jpg


Yeah it would be nice to block certain users posts entirely. Nothing like reading a new thread and seeing Duros add his moronic two cents to everything as he tries to increase his post count.

He will either agree to something someone else has said earlier without adding anything of value, or call someone a troll, or post something to help that he has NO clue on and is completely wrong about.

[duros]

Yeah it would be nice to block certain users posts entirely. Nothing like reading a new thread and seeing Duros add his moronic two cents to everything as he tries to increase his post count.

He will either agree to something someone else has said earlier without adding anything of value, or call someone a troll, or post something to help that he has NO clue on and is completely wrong about.
Idiots love company. Move along little troll...