List of pal games compatible with pro scan - 480p

[LordPWC]

Thanks to qoob bios pro v1.3, there is a progressive support for pal games.

It could be great to make a compatibility list for pal games.
From what i've read :


Games compatible :
- Mario Kart DD pal
- Mario Party 6 pal
- Resident Evil 4 pal
- Doshin the Giant
- Killer 7 pal
- Micromachines PAL
- Ikaruga PAL
- Wave Race Blue Storm
- Wario Ware Inc. (Strange because i read that the NTSC doesn´t work)
- Resident Evil 0 - 4 (1 flickering!)
- Resident Evil Code Veronica
- Zelda Mega Collection
- Wario World (gfx issues)
- Super Smash Brother Melee
- All Mario Titles
- Eternal Darkness (only on 50 HZ)
- Final Fantasy Chronicles
- Super Monkey Ball 2
- Beach Spikers
- 1080 Avalanche
- Baten Kaitos
- Dragon´s Lair 3D Special Edition
- Sonic Adventure
- Pokemon Box
- Tales of Symphonia
- Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
- Zelda Four Swords
- Paper Mario 2
- StarFox Assault
- StarWars Roque Leader (german pal)
- Pikmin 2
- Gotcha Force
- P.N.03 (flickering!)
- Donkey Konga 1
- Skies of Arcadia
- Bomberman Generation
- Viewtifull Joe 1,2 (both flickering)
- Metroid Prime 1 (50Hz Mode necessary!)
- Need for Speed Underground 2
- Wario world (PAL)
- Animal Crossing (PAL)
- Starfox adventures (PAL)
- Buffy the vampire slayer (PAL)
- Hello Kitty Roller Rescue (PAL)
- Crash Bandicoot The Wrath Of Cortex (PAL)


Games non compatible
- Viewtiful Joe pal
- Resident Evil - Works ok with major flickering at top and bottom of screen making the game near unplayable
- Resident Evil 0 pal (menu and the cut scenes Ok, rest =messed up)
- UK gameboy player boot disc
- Pokemon Colloseum
- Animal Crossing
- Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes
- Star Wars Rebel Strike (german pal)
- Pikmin 1
- Metroid Prime 2


I know that games like Re0 or Animal crossing are on the 2 list. It means they have worked in pro scan mode for some people but not for all.


Please complete this list :)

[TestType]

While the NTSC versions of those games that are compatible according to your list are all progressive scan compatible your non-compatible list is another story.

NTSC Viewtiful Joe has progressive, the other Resident Evil games do not.

But yeah it would be great if somebody would host a list for all the games that work. I thought I read somewhere even a few non native progressive NTSC games work in the forced progressive mode, that would be even more useful if somebody could keep track of those games (if true).

[Kazuya]

Doshin the Giant - Works fine
Resident Evil - Works ok with major flickering at top and bottom of screen making the game near unplayable

[LordPWC]

Thanx for your feedback kazuya.

I've edited the list in the first post.

[kyu81]

killer 7 pal works fine with forced 480p:)

[LordPWC]

kyu81> Great ! i uptade the list

Wait. I thought killer7 would be on store 7/7 ! I wonder how..... ;)

If you have tried any other pal games in pro scan mode, please tell us whether it works or not :)

[Souzar]

Micromachines PAL works in progressive mode, full screen, no glitches.

Ikaruga PAL works fine full screen -is it just me or is this version FAAAAST? (compared to the DC version)

All using qoob pro 1.3a, on a Q.

@LowrdWPC, I have timesplitters 2, NTSC version and when I promote it to progressive scan I get mash up graphics in the borders but not on the area of gameplay. I just expand the monitor vertically so its not visible and the rest of it looks and runs fine. this is a NTSC game on an NTSC machine. Is that sismialr to the problem you are getting with the PAL resident Evil? (NTSC version doesnt work at all for me)

[plagiarise]

the UK gameboy player boot disc won't be forced. it boots fine but in 480i. :(

[LoRd AvAtAr]

This Games works:
Wave Race Blue Storm
Wario Ware Inc. (Strange because i read that the NTSC doesn´t work)
Resident Evil 0 - 4 (1 flickering!)
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Zelda Mega Collection
Wario World (gfx issues)
Super Smash Brother Melee
All Mario Titles
Eternal Darkness
Final Fantasy Chronicles
Super Monkey Ball 2
Beach Spikers
1080 Avalanche
Baten Kaitos
Dragon´s Lair 3D Special Edition
Sonic Adventure
Pokemon Box
Tales of Symphonia
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Zelda Four Swords
Paper Mario 2
StarFox Assault
StarWars Roque Leader (german pal)
Pikmin 2
Gotcha Force
P.N.03 (flickering!)
Donkey Konga 1
Skies of Arcadia
Bomberman Generation
Viewtifull Joe 1,2 (both flickering)
Metroid Prime 1 (50Hz Mode necessary!)
Need for Speed Underground 2


Doesn´t Work:
Pokemon Colloseum
Animal Crossing
Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes
Star Wars Rebel Strike (german pal)
Pikmin 1
Metroid Prime 2

[Souzar]

Which bios are you using? and tales of symphonia; I can't seem to get my backup to display progressive but my originals do?!. Weird.

[LoRd AvAtAr]

I use 1.3a.
I have the german Pal Version, but other Pal´s must also work.

[Shakey_Jake33]

Resi 4 PAL seems to crash for me, have you guys all got this working?

[xcadaverx]

what the heck is progressive? other than car insurance. :|

[LoRd AvAtAr]

My savegame of Resi 4 is crashed. I can´t test it...

Progressive means VGA

[MODIT]

what the heck is progressive? other than car insurance. :|

Progressive scan is a video mode that Older crt type tellys can't display, older crt tellys display an interlaced image, EDTV and HDTV tellys will display the progressive signal which is shown at upto 100 COMPLETE frames in one second. Older crt tellys only display 50 or 60 frames/second displaying half the screen then the rest in the remainder of the second.

The result of the progressive signal is a very clear real life like appearing image with extremely low colour bleed. Whereas the older crt interlaced telly is quite the opposite.

To get this progressive display you have to purchase one off the following

Plasma/lcd/front projection/rear projection based telly system which is either EHTV or HDTV compliant or get a Luxury (17"+) sized pc monitor with the correct adapter.

The onset of progressive capable tellys reminds of the first time I played Ferari xXx on a Dreamcast in RGB display mode compared to the standard av scart connection it appeared so crisp and clear. Well progressive clean and clear kicks the ass of RGB :)

This is far from the complete story on progressive scan, there are loads of sites doing the complete history and all the techy news on this marvelous new technology which has been about from 1997 and before anyone asked it was Panasonic that launched it comercially with either a 51" or 52" inch plasma display, so if you want the best you now know what to buy.

To identify weither or not your telly can accept a progressive signal check out the link below, it explains and shows pics of what connections to look out for.

http://www.flattvpeople.com/tutorials/dec-cable.asp

[Shakey_Jake33]

I've had a little play around with PAL Resident Evil 4 a bit, and have somewhat gotten it to work, at least up until the title screen.

Basically, it seems to crash if it tries to load the 50/60Hz selector menu.
A workaround is to load the game normally (i.e Prog. Scan off), then choose 50Hz. This prevents the 50/60Hz selector fro appearing again (unless you hold B on startup).

Now the game will load fine. It loads in 50Hz mode, but since your forcing 480p, your actually playing the game full speed anyway.

This had highlighted a few problems in the Qoob software actually, namely the fact that when you choose 60Hz on a PAL game, it seems to reset the video settings you have chosen on your Qoob, meaning you have to set them again, and restart your machine, every time. Something that badly needs fixing.
Or even better, hold a button to enable 480p mode =)

[humbert]

i have a question,tell me plz ,if i'll buy a multi vga box 2 from divineo ,will i be able to play games in progressive scan on a pc monitor?

[Hyllian]

Star Wars Rogue Leader PAL has some graphic problems when you begin to control your ship, at the first level. Half of the screen is scrambled. Sniff...

RE2 PAL works perfect.

[lyris]

Progressive means VGA
Progressive isn't the same as VGA. VGA almost always uses Progressive Scan, that is, the image is sent from top to bottom in one pass, rather than Interlaced. Progressive Scan signals are usually sent to the TV using Component Video cables, DVI cable, or HDMI cable. In the case of the existing consoles, it's Component.

CRT screens can display Progressive images as well as HDTV images, but this is rare in Europe.

progressive signal which is shown at upto 100 COMPLETE frames in one second. Older crt tellys only display 50 or 60 frames/second displaying half the screen then the rest in the remainder of the second.
60 full frames per second is the maximum that can be sent on todays' TV connectors. Old Interlaced CRTs show 25 or 30 FULL frames each second, but as you said that can be upped to 50 or 60 through interlacing.

[Shakey_Jake33]

Does anyone know if Sonic Mega Collection works in forced 480p mode?

[rakker]

i have a pal gamecube

Eternal darkness (pal) (multi)

works only on 50 HZ

60 HZ will freeze sometimes with a blue error screen from the bios :eek:

ps. i have choose this option in the game

Works:


Wario world (PAL)
Animal Crossing (PAL)
Starfox adventures (PAL)
Buffy the vampire slayer (PAL)
Hello Kitty Roller Rescue (PAL)
Crash Bandicoot The Wrath Of Cortex (PAL)

[Souzar]

Anyone tried wwe DOR Pal version in progressive mode? NTSC version divides the screen up horizontally or something, like its been wrapped around 5 times so there are 5 copies of the action onscreen but squished up. Not playable, but it still loads up!

[LordPWC]

Ok !

Thx everybody. I've updated the list on my first post :)

[LoRd AvAtAr]

Update:
Mario Superstar Baseball Pal works perfect!
Mario Smash Football doesn´t work! :-(
Pokemon XD Pal doesn´t work!

[trollkopf]

does Wind Walker PAL (on PAL cube) work with forced progressive mode?
any PAL users had success with progressive mode on CRT or TFT monitor?
what cable did you use? is there a direct cable from the old gamecube Digital Video Output to a TFT DVI-D input?
please share your experiences :)

edit:
is it possible to get progressive mode on pal cube with a NTSC Game ? or is this function disabled by nintendo (via Bios or somehow) ?

[Merle]

Does Resident evil 4 (pal) has 480p on pal cube with component cable?

And what about King Kong?

[LordPWC]

trollkopf>> I 'm quite sure Zelda TWW pal can't be forced in pro scan.

And yes it is absolutely possible to get progressive mode on pal cube with a NTSC Game.
For example, i play Re4 NTSC on my pal GC in pro scan mode thanx to a D-terminal cable moded in VGA cable.

Merle> Look at the list on the first page ;)

[flobo]

trollkopf>> I 'm quite sure Zelda TWW pal can't be forced in pro scan.

And yes it is absolutely possible to get progressive mode on pal cube with a NTSC Game.
For example, i play Re4 NTSC on my pal GC in pro scan mode thanx to a D-terminal cable moded in VGA cable.

Merle> Look at the list on the first page ;)
I just bought a D-terminal cable for my european cube and Zelda TWW works in prog scan (european version).
I tried also Mario sunshine PAL, but it was strange, it worked, but it is impossible to see the buttom of the screen.

[LoRd AvAtAr]

Upadte List:
Odama didn´t work with progressive.

[liquitt]

http://hdgames.net/

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=hdlists

[Stremon]

Metroid Prime 2 PAL Work fine in 480p, but not with the forced progressive scan mode. You just need to connect the yuv cable and press "B" at game's start.

[Kyro]

hi,

bringing this topic back to life with a controversal question : does GC twilight princess support 480p ? cant find a clear answer when googling

[lydiachris]

Click on this link:

http://hdgames.net/

Type in twilight princess and you'll get your answer!
It does actually support 480p apparently, i've just ordered my qoob pro and will let you know asap