Microsoft: Definitely no plans for blu-ray

[Timboo]

Microsoft has confirmed it has "absolutely no plans" to support any other optical formats, especially blu-ray. In January, Peter Moore suggested that Microsoft would be willing to adapt and possibly use other formats. Microsoft has reiterated though by saying: "We're fully committed to HD-DVD and have absolutely no plans to support other optical formats."

"We firmly stand behind the HD-DVD format as the best choice for consumers. Current reports indicating that Microsoft has a back-up plan which includes Blu-ray support are incorrect,"

News source: <a href="http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=25092" target="_blank">gamesindustry.biz</a>

[XxBigP123xX]

peter moore can blow me for all i care

[OblivionX]

peter moore can blow me for all i care

well both formats aint taking off at lightning speed. But im happy with hd-dvd quality. Esspecially compared to ps3s blu ray playback. And your sig is quite good lol, hes trying so hard to defend the ps3 and fails so badly. Just the bit about surf the web with friends and about the 360 games lol. Infact im not quite sure what point hes trying to make, the ps3 has no games so he plays 360 ones but the ps3 should be used for other means....

[Aeond]

"We give you the choice " So much for that..:rolleyes:

[Sinar]

Theres no new black xbox 360 honest.
This will come back to haunt them if they u-turn, it's always deny deny deny from ms even when they have stuff sitting on the production line.

[OblivionX]

its called an NDA all companies deny products or say they arnt planned when they are not announched. They are running a business and there are times when announcements are more benifiting.

[Michael1]

Peter moore can go blow a sheep for all I care.

He is one person not be taken seriously.

HD DVD has its advantages yes i'll admit, but in some areas Blue Ray is overtaking the format. I think in a years time or so Mr Moore will be eating his words.

[Frak-Frakistan]

Theres no new black xbox 360 honest.
This will come back to haunt them if they u-turn, it's always deny deny deny from ms even when they have stuff sitting on the production line.

You are 100% right



well both formats aint taking off at lightning speed. But im happy with hd-dvd quality. Esspecially compared to ps3s blu ray playback. And your sig is quite good lol, hes trying so hard to defend the ps3 and fails so badly. Just the bit about surf the web with friends and about the 360 games lol. Infact im not quite sure what point hes trying to make, the ps3 has no games so he plays 360 ones but the ps3 should be used for other means....



Youre happy becuse you are the unlucky one who got a hddvd.Ps3's blu ray playback is totally above the 360's hddvd.(Visually + its seperate so it's one ugly piece of garbage).its the best speech because it stops 360 bithces from saying ps3 has nothing, just like you

HD DVD has its advantages yes i'll admit


the hddvd has no advantage over the bluray,if youre talking VC1,it can be fixed not a big issue.But the a dual layer hdvd can never store 50 gigs

[Michael1]

the hddvd has no advantage over the bluray,if youre talking VC1,it can be fixed not a big issue.But the a dual layer hdvd can never store 50 gigs


You are quite correct. I forgot! We're on top for once!! :rolleyes: :D

[Dark_Vendetta]

Wanna bet they'll give us a Bluerayplayer if BR wins the "battle"?? :rolleyes:

[Michael1]

The "battle" as you call it will end up between the Wii and the Ps3. Just wait and see. :cool:

[{{909}}]

Wanna bet they'll give us a Bluerayplayer if BR wins the "battle"?? :rolleyes:

they probably will in that situation.

This stateent doesnt mean they never will release a BD addon, If they announced they had plans for one now it would be almost like saying Bluray is looking to be the winner in this format war and they would be stupid to confirm it this early on when it could still go either way.

[Michael1]

IF M$ want their 360s to survive they will have to add a blue ray player add on eventually.

I bet even though they let out that statement, their engineers are working on one right now! :D

[PSPWAD]

The "battle" as you call it will end up between the Wii and the Ps3. Just wait and see. :cool:
I'm glad to see the PS3 fans do have optimism, let's just hope that Sony can recover after loosing over $500 million (mostly due to the PS3)...

[Michael1]

I'm glad to see the PS3 fans do have optimism, let's just hope that Sony can recover after loosing over $500 million (mostly due to the PS3)...


LOL, Sony themselves declared they were expecting a big loss for this year.

No need to worry there, the Ps3 is going to bounce back as soon as the games start rolling..and thats not long to go now :cool:

[whackawookie]

IF M$ want their 360s to survive they will have to add a blue ray player add on eventually.

I bet even though they let out that statement, their engineers are working on one right now! :D

first off your being niave. a movie encoded at extremely high quality with vc1 gets 5.5hrs on hd-dvd 30gb. a movie ranges from 1.5-2.5 hrs in length. there is absolutely no need for that much extra content to get crammed on a single disc. you wanna talk about somebody having one up over the other then that would be hd-dvd considering that it is region free. 50gb of data is not only redundant its possible on hd-dvd on its other side. hd-dvd are dual sided and have been with releases of combo discs but honestly most people watch the extra content once if at all, after that its just taking up space

[Xenogears V]

Obvious choice, to pay the rights to Sony, that is a competitor rival, would have been absurd. But unfortunately the 360 (with Hd-Dvd) is confirmed an obsolete console.:(

[Michael1]

first off your being niave. a movie encoded at extremely high quality with vc1 gets 5.5hrs on hd-dvd 30gb. a movie ranges from 1.5-2.5 hrs in length. there is absolutely no need for that much extra content to get crammed on a single disc. you wanna talk about somebody having one up over the other then that would be hd-dvd considering that it is region free. 50gb of data is not only redundant its possible on hd-dvd on its other side. hd-dvd are dual sided and have been with releases of combo discs but honestly most people watch the extra content once if at all, after that its just taking up space

Oh yeah, but I was more meaning for games whackawookie. with the extra space available on the Ps3, the Console is going to outshine even your precious 360!

[whackawookie]

Oh yeah, but I was more meaning for games whackawookie. with the extra space available on the Ps3, the Console is going to outshine even your preciuous 360!

i'm not going to get into this bluray game arguement its been discussed over and over again all that i'll say is resistance developers insominiac ranted and raved about the game being so big that it was only possible on bluray yet when you play the game the graphics are so so and the length is not that long, so whered all the space go

[Michael1]

i'm not going to get into this bluray game arguement its been discussed over and over again all that i'll say is resistance developers insominiac ranted and raved about the game being so big that it was only possible on bluray yet when you play the game the graphics are so so and the length is not that long, so whered all the space go

RFOM was just meant to show what Blue Ray can do. It was a LAUNCH title!
Also it was meant to be compared with a PC game!

Yes its not that bad but it is not that good either! Thats why I chose motorstorm over it.

Insmomiac did not do that bad considering it was a LAUNCH title! They will be developing much better games from now on in..Just look at the new R&C! thats only the beginning!

Geeze whackawookie....you insist on comparing the 360's games of today with the Playstation 3's launch titles! That cannot be done. You should be comparing the 360's launch titles with the Ps3 Launch titles! Christmas will see the Ps3 Juggernaught really speeding up and the developers get to know the Ps3 and its cell etc more.

Things are going to change my friend, then maybe you'll start to understand what I mean.

[whackawookie]

RFOM was just meant to show what Blue Ray can do. It was a LAUNCH title!
Also it was meant to be compared with a PC game!

Yes its not that bad but it is not that good either! Thats why I chose motorstorm over it.

Insmomiac did not do that bad considering it was a LAUNCH title! They will be developing much better games from now on in..Just look at the new R&C! thats only the beginning!

Geeze whackawookie....you insist on comparing the 360's games of today with the Playstation 3's launch titles! That cannot be done. You should be comparing the 360's launch titles with the Ps3 Launch titles! Christmas will see the Ps3 Juggernaught really speeding up.

Things are going to change my friend, then maybe you'll start to understand what I mean.

ok what about call of duty 2, that was a launch title for the 360 since you insist on keeping this going

[Michael1]

ok what about call of duty 2, that was a launch title for the 360 since you insist on keeping this going


Your always the one going on about wanting exclusives whackawookie!!

At least RFOM was EXCLUSIVE!

Call of Duty 2 is on the PC as well the 360! PMSL
:D :D

One last point..I've been saying this for ages and its so true, the xbox is very similer to a pc. The PS3 is in a different league.

[whackawookie]

it was exclusive. in my eyes exclusive means if its only on one console its exclusive. pc is its own league since not everyone can afford to keep up the video cards or needed ram or new motherboards for the latest cpu. but if you wanna go there fine what about need for speed most wanted. exclusive looked great and was under dvd9. you are also forgetting the fact that sony developers got much much more time to work on there games then the 360 with the delays and year after the 360 launch but because i know you probably didn't know that i'm going to play ball with your rules. project gotham 3, perfect dark and kameo. while you may not like any of these games they are pretty much in the same category as resistance in terms of availability and graphics plus all exclusive

[pCeSlAyEr]

Your always the one going on about wanting exclusives whackawookie!!

At least RFOM was EXCLUSIVE!

Call of Duty 2 is on the PC as well the 360! PMSL
:D :D

One last point..I've been saying this for ages and its so true, the xbox is very similer to a pc. The PS3 is in a different league.
really now, then why has the PS3 been regarded as a computer since day one by sony?

[whackawookie]

really now, then why has the PS3 been regarded as a computer since day one by sony?

because for the purpose of his arguement sony's comments are irrelevant. lol

[modojojo]

i'm not going to get into this bluray game arguement its been discussed over and over again all that i'll say is resistance developers insominiac ranted and raved about the game being so big that it was only possible on bluray yet when you play the game the graphics are so so and the length is not that long, so whered all the space go


Bro, I read through your post and all your talking about Is first gen games. IMO you should wait until the PS3 Is In It's stride before anyone can past judgement on blu-ray games and the space they use.

[whackawookie]

Bro, I read through your post and all your talking about Is first gen games. IMO you should wait until the PS3 Is In It's stride before anyone can past judgement on blu-ray games and the space they use.

your still forgetting that the ps3 is basically on its second gen games. the games its getting are ports from the 360 which are second gen games. there are no exclusive second gen games except heavenly sword on the horizon everything else is a multiplatfor game meaning obviously developers aren't having that hard of time doing everything possible on bluray on dvd9

[Michael1]

Bro, I read through your post and all your talking about Is first gen games. IMO you should wait until the PS3 Is In It's stride before anyone can past judgement on blu-ray games and the space they use.


Thankyou modojojo, thats the point I was trying to get across.
The Ps3 needs more time before anyone can pass judgement on blue ray games and their quality and whether or not all that space is justified.

I myself have no doubts whatsoever that those people who are knocking the Ps3 and the games now will be taken aback and more than impressed in the months to come.

@whackawookie...The Ps3 is still in its infancy stages in Europe...you are going to be pleasently suprised once the Ps3 gets into its stride.

[pCeSlAyEr]

Thankyou modojojo, thats the point I was trying to get across.
The Ps3 needs more time before anyone can pass judgement on blue ray games and their quality and whether or not all that space is justified.

I myself have no doubts whatsoever that those people who are knocking the Ps3 and the games now will be taken aback and more than impressed in the months to come.
The space of Blue-Ray will be used primarily by 1st party devs.. and honestly how many titles come from 1st party? the majority of game sales are done with 3rd party titles.. so... yea BRD will not be utilized as long as the 360 is the primary console for development and I don't see this fact changing any time in the near future.

[whackawookie]

Thankyou modojojo, thats the point I was trying to get across.
The Ps3 needs more time before anyone can pass judgement on blue ray games and their quality and whether or not all that space is justified.

I myself have no doubts whatsoever that those people who are knocking the Ps3 and the games now will be taken aback and more than impressed in the months to come.

@whackawookie...The Ps3 is still in its infancy stages in Europe...you are going to be pleasently suprised once the Ps3 gets into its stride.

its funny you argue telling me to name first gen games so i do then i get come down on saying im comparing to first gen games. then you throw out that the ps3 is still in its infancy in europe but its been out months before in the us and jpn. if your going to argue something stick to your guns but dont make excuses with claims of infancy and first gen to second gen to bluray space and blah blah blah. you sound like the marketing advisor for sony telling people of why the price is so high

[RottenFox]

RFOM was just meant to show what Blue Ray can do. It was a LAUNCH title!
Also it was meant to be compared with a PC game!

Yes its not that bad but it is not that good either! Thats why I chose motorstorm over it.

Insmomiac did not do that bad considering it was a LAUNCH title! They will be developing much better games from now on in..Just look at the new R&C! thats only the beginning!

Geeze whackawookie....you insist on comparing the 360's games of today with the Playstation 3's launch titles! That cannot be done. You should be comparing the 360's launch titles with the Ps3 Launch titles! Christmas will see the Ps3 Juggernaught really speeding up and the developers get to know the Ps3 and its cell etc more.

Things are going to change my friend, then maybe you'll start to understand what I mean.

what a lot of total fucking shite,you spew..
RFOM,has been in development for years...so **** if it was a "launch" title..its had all the time to be polished,and finished,just like motorstorm,and they both are mediocre in looks and play.
hell,im amazed my buggy in motorstorm never got a puncture with all the jaggies that are on it..
its sony that have the ineptitude,and the manufacturing plants that caused delays.the ps3 should have been out a long time before now.
its going to be a while before a title jumps out,and looks mind blowing on the ps3,if ever,as i think most companies will dev for 360 and wii.

[pCeSlAyEr]

what a lot of total fucking shite,you spew..
RFOM,has been in development for years...so **** if it was a "launch" title..its had all the time to be polished,and finished,just like motorstorm,and they both are mediocre in looks and play.
hell,im amazed my buggy in motorstorm never got a puncture with all the jaggies that are on it..
its sony that have the ineptitude,and the manufacturing plants that caused delays.the ps3 should have been out a long time before now.
its going to be a while before a title jumps out,and looks mind blowing on the ps3,if ever,as i think most companies will dev for 360 and wii.
its like claiming gears is a first gen title..

well technically it is since it was being developed far before the console ever launched.

[modojojo]

your still forgetting that the ps3 is basically on its second gen games. the games its getting are ports from the 360 which are second gen games. there are no exclusive second gen games except heavenly sword on the horizon everything else is a multiplatfor game meaning obviously developers aren't having that hard of time doing everything possible on bluray on dvd9

That's cool and all, but you can't count ports of games that are already on other systems that don't utilize blu-ray space to begin with . example FEAR, the developers are not going to waste money and redo a whole game just for the ps3. there just going to recode what they have an port It. Now Heavnly Sword, lair and uncharted would be good examples If these games use more space than an average dual-layer dvd.

[SSChevy2001]

Sorry PS3 fans, but Blu-ray is useless, unless your loading your games with HD FMVs + $hits loads of languages + dummy files, which is what Sony dev do now. Blu-ray vs HD-DVD is pointless as both have plenty of space for high quality movies. HD-DVD can at least support the combo disc.

[cardboardbox]

if/when blu-ray wins, MS will sell it as an add on for 360.

[pCeSlAyEr]

if/when blu-ray wins, MS will sell it as an add on for 360.
doubt it... I think MS would rather take the loss then kiss sonys ass...

[grd94533]

One of the reasons vhs won over beta was because they were cheaper. That's not the case here since both formats are the same price. If hd dvd really has a chance to win they need to come down on the price a little more. EXAMPLE: I would not buy Superman Returns on blu-ray for $29.99 if I could get it for $24.99 on hd dvd. But it actually cost $34.99 which is more than the blu-ray price so I would rather get the blu-ray. That's another sale for blu-ray, and another loss for hd dvd. They claim hd dvd is cheaper to make so why are they charging so much for them? I was a big supporter for hd dvd at the beggining of this war but I've slowly switched sides to blu-ray because I honestly think they will win.

[Calidrifter]

doubt it... I think MS would rather take the loss then kiss sonys ass...
That seems to be MS mentality. "We can take the losses... cuz we have money!!!!:D " Pointing out that they are idiots as far as financial matters go is not exactly the best way to defend MS.

[pCeSlAyEr]

That seems to be MS mentality. "We can take the losses... cuz we have money!!!!:D " Pointing out that they are idiots as far as financial matters go is not exactly the best way to defend MS.
who's defending Microsoft.. I'm just saying I doubt they will ever adopt BRD.

and yes they seem to make lots of costly decisions, but you have to take risks to succeed... and well they take lots..

[stop_loading]

fully committed my foot

if you're fully committed you would use hd dvd drive as standard in the first place

[whackawookie]

fully committed my foot

if you're fully committed you would use hd dvd drive as standard in the first place

using it as a standard format for games has nothing to do with being fully commited. if the format isn't needed for the games then why would you put it in the system

[stop_loading]

using it as a standard format for games has nothing to do with being fully commited. if the format isn't needed for the games then why would you put it in the system

yes it is needed, you expect to rely on dvd9 for the next 5 years? that's a joke

plus, if they put HD DVD drive on x360, blu ray will have a lot less chance of winning, therefore killing the ps3, not to mention it's better for gaming, let the dumbass customers cry for the price, it'll be better suited for the future and price will go down eventually

HD audio alone could take over 3 gig, not to mention if developers want to include some videos, dvd9 is useless