Looks Like Wiikey Support is Dead!

[odinfire]

YUP! LOOKS LIKE SUPPORT FOR WIIKEY IS DEAD!!!

They finally updated their site and took down any mention of an update. This is what it says:

[07.04.27] Clone update
We generally refrain from making statements on individual companies offering clones, as it is obvious in most cases that it is a clone. However, when people blatantly claim that they are selling the genuine product we have to issue a statement, as it confuses our customers. We have already mentioned that www.wiikey.com.cn is in no way affiliated with us, and that thechip they offer is in fact a clone. Another obvious scam is Cybershop Ltd (aka Spyphone-UK, Dart Impex) who is offering clone wiikey as well as triwing screwdrivers with wiikey logo, which is not endorsed or approved by wiikey (the use of the logo, we dont have any claims on screwdrivers ).

NO MENTION OF AN UPDATE ANY LONGER. I GUESS WE CAN ALL GO STICK OURSELVES ACCORDING TO THEM. :mad:

THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE CLONE ISSUE. NOTHING ELSE.

FUTURE SHOPPERS... DO NOT BUY A WIIKEY! YOU WILL REGRET IT!

[Sebastian25]

in fact don't EVER buy anything from that group again

Boycott team xeno

do NOT buy their Blaster 360 or any other product. They can go$%&* themselves.

[numms]

YUP! LOOKS LIKE SUPPORT FOR WIIKEY IS DEAD!!!

They finally updated their site and took down any mention of an update. This is what it says:

[07.04.27] Clone update
We generally refrain from making statements on individual companies offering clones, as it is obvious in most cases that it is a clone. However, when people blatantly claim that they are selling the genuine product we have to issue a statement, as it confuses our customers. We have already mentioned that www.wiikey.com.cn is in no way affiliated with us, and that thechip they offer is in fact a clone. Another obvious scam is Cybershop Ltd (aka Spyphone-UK, Dart Impex) who is offering clone wiikey as well as triwing screwdrivers with wiikey logo, which is not endorsed or approved by wiikey (the use of the logo, we dont have any claims on screwdrivers ).

NO MENTION OF AN UPDATE ANY LONGER. I GUESS WE CAN ALL GO STICK OURSELVES ACCORDING TO THEM. :mad:

THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE CLONE ISSUE. NOTHING ELSE.

FUTURE SHOPPERS... DO NOT BUY A WIIKEY! YOU WILL REGRET IT!
I apologize in advance, I don't mean to get anyone riled up, but...

How many people using the wiikey were the same ones screaming about the cyclowiz not being upgradable? The constant bashing of the cyclo in general as a half baked chip because the wiikey is so much better.

I have to sit back and laugh at those posts...

Admit it, there is a certain amount of irony in the whole thing.

[wiiismybaby]

YUP! LOOKS LIKE SUPPORT FOR WIIKEY IS DEAD!!!

They finally updated their site and took down any mention of an update. This is what it says:

[07.04.27] Clone update
We generally refrain from making statements on individual companies offering clones, as it is obvious in most cases that it is a clone. However, when people blatantly claim that they are selling the genuine product we have to issue a statement, as it confuses our customers. We have already mentioned that www.wiikey.com.cn is in no way affiliated with us, and that thechip they offer is in fact a clone. Another obvious scam is Cybershop Ltd (aka Spyphone-UK, Dart Impex) who is offering clone wiikey as well as triwing screwdrivers with wiikey logo, which is not endorsed or approved by wiikey (the use of the logo, we dont have any claims on screwdrivers ).

NO MENTION OF AN UPDATE ANY LONGER. I GUESS WE CAN ALL GO STICK OURSELVES ACCORDING TO THEM. :mad:

THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE CLONE ISSUE. NOTHING ELSE.

FUTURE SHOPPERS... DO NOT BUY A WIIKEY! YOU WILL REGRET IT!

Actually you're wrong.....if you go to the news section...the post of the 1.2 config is still there along with them talking about an update....they just took it off the main page.

[Viewsat]

This is why you should just use WiiFree. It works the same as Wiikey and can be programmed on a PIC that costs around $1 usd. The code is always being updated and improved. Who needs these commercial mods? :D

[hexa666]

No mention within the last 3 weeks since that update was released or in their latest "news"

[bobit]

no honour among thieves:)

i bet the Clone gets Cloned

[odinfire]

Actually you're wrong.....if you go to the news section...the post of the 1.2 config is still there along with them talking about an update....they just took it off the main page.

Just forget it. They have no intention. They would have mentioned it in this update if they did.

[outphase]

TALKING IN CAPS BECAUSE I FEEL CHEATED OUT OF CHEATING OUT OTHER COMPANIES!!!

Like what was said earlier, "No honor among thieves." Either move on to alternatives or stay quiet about it.

[duros]

They finally updated their site and took down any mention of an update. This is what it says:



This seems like a bashing thread disguised as bogus news....

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

From the site: http://www.wiikey.cn/news.html STILL under news:
"[07.04.06] wiiKey base 1.2 released!

Version 1.2 of the setup disc is now available for download. It combines
various applications into a single bootable disc. This release includes:

- wiikey configuration
- wiikey dvdDump (dumps discs to sdcard)
- some of the most popular gamecube homebrew apps:

- SDLoad 1.0 by Costis
- Snes9x 1.43 GX 0.5 Port by Softdev
- GCOs MultiGame Version by emu_kidid
- MFE Distro 1.0 by Isobel

We like to point out that this disc does not update the chips firmware
in any way. It merely adjusts the configuration stored in EEPROM.

what's next ?
==============================
Coming up next will be the first wiikey firmware update. Among some new
features/improvements, it will fix the audiostreaming bug, that causes
several gamecube games to crash right now. More details will be
announced soon on the official website."

[Cantenna]

This seems like a bashing thread disguised as bogus news....

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

From the site: http://www.wiikey.cn/news.html STILL under news:
"[07.04.06] wiiKey base 1.2 released!

Version 1.2 of the setup disc is now available for download. It combines
various applications into a single bootable disc. This release includes:

- wiikey configuration
- wiikey dvdDump (dumps discs to sdcard)
- some of the most popular gamecube homebrew apps:

- SDLoad 1.0 by Costis
- Snes9x 1.43 GX 0.5 Port by Softdev
- GCOs MultiGame Version by emu_kidid
- MFE Distro 1.0 by Isobel

We like to point out that this disc does not update the chips firmware
in any way. It merely adjusts the configuration stored in EEPROM.

what's next ?
==============================
Coming up next will be the first wiikey firmware update. Among some new
features/improvements, it will fix the audiostreaming bug, that causes
several gamecube games to crash right now. More details will be
announced soon on the official website."


:eek: This news suprises me!!!:eek:

[duros]

:eek: This news suprises me!!!:eek:

Jumping the gun by saying "Wiikey support is dead!!" all in caps is pure chip bashing speculation.

And telling everyone that they "took down any mention of an update" is just a lie. I want an update just as much as anyone that owns a wiikey, but going off the deep end won't make it happen any faster.

This topic creator is jumping the jun just a wee bit.

[odinfire]

Jumping the gun by saying "Wiikey support is dead!!" all in caps is pure chip bashing speculation.

And telling everyone that they "took down any mention of an update" is just a lie. I want an update just as much as anyone that owns a wiikey, but going off the deep end won't make it happen any faster.

This topic creator is jumping the jun just a wee bit.

ACTUALLY...

Maybe you need to visit Wiikey's "official" forums. One of the administrators that "does" have contact with the team specifically says that the Wiikey team is working on a new chip and the update is not their priority.
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QUOTE from xiaNaix:

"v2 hardware is certainly on the horizon (for Wiikey) but the bit in the email about not buying Wiikey products just does not seem logical. Why would the Wiikey team, who is still producing chips and shipping them to resellers, tell people NOT to buy them?"

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That same administrator said that he tried to get them to release just the audio fix, but they will not do any update until they get the clone issue taken care of. Further, the Wiikey has been cloned 1:1, meaning there is NOTHING they can do to keep clones from working with an update. SO...

What does this mean...

First, it means that if you dont care about future updates and the audio fix for gamecube, save yourself some money and buy a Wiikey clone. $8 is about all they are worth anyway considering the original never fully worked as advertised.

It also means that the makers of Wiikey are creating a new "secure" chip and they are dropping support for their original product. If by chance you do see an update, it will not be until well into the new chips release. Original Wiikey updates are pretty much a lost cause.

EVEN FURTHER... Why on God's green earth would a release group TELL the public that the next update for their chip will wipe out clones? Wouldn't the most logical step be to release it silently and let it kill them off? This tells you that all they are doing is creating fud to scare off clone purchases because they cannot kill them.

You can ignore it all you want... you can deny it... you can dream up your happy scenerio... but the fact of the matter is, Wiikey is a non-supportive group and they have no intention of truly supporting their customers without squeezing every last dime they can out of them.

As far as them taking down the update, yes.. you are correct they did only move the information off the main page... BUT by not saying anything in their latest comments secures the fact that the update IS NOT their priority. THE CLONES ARE. Customers be damned.

I was beaten down weeks ago for comparing this issue with the cloning in the FTA scene and stating that using clone kill code or trying to disable them only hurts the true customers...

Well... let me revert back to 4th grade for a moment...

I TOLD YOU SO.

Maybe some of you should listen to people with some experience. I was only trying to help to begin with. Now, I still do the same... THE ONLY WAY that the Wiikey team will release an update is through bad word of mouth and pressure by the user base. Perhaps some of you should make your way over to their "official" forums and voice your opinion. At the very least, you may be able to help others from making a similar mistake buying their product.

[davepsp]

ACTUALLY...

Maybe you need to visit Wiikey's "official" forums. One of the administrators that "does" have contact with the team specifically says that the Wiikey team is working on a new chip and the update is not their priority.

That same administrator said that he tried to get them to release just the audio fix, but they will not do anything until they get the clone issue taken care of. Further, the Wiikey has been cloned 1:1, meaning there is NOTHING they can do to keep clones from working with an update. SO...

What does this mean...

First, it means that if you dont care about future updates and the audio fix for gamecube, save yourself some money and buy a Wiikey clone. $8 is about all they are worth anyway considering the original never fully worked as advertised.

It also means that the makers of Wiikey are creating a new "secure" chip and they are dropping support for their original product. If by chance you do see an update, it will not be until well into the new chips release. Original Wiikey updates are pretty much a lost cause.

You can ignore it all you want... you can deny it... you can dream up your happy scenerio... but the fact of the matter is, Wiikey is a non-supportive group and they have no intention of truly supporting their customers without squeezing every last dime they can out of them.

As far as them taking down the update, yes.. you are correct they did only move the information off the main page... BUT by not saying anthing in their latest comments secures the fact that the update IS NOT their priority. THE CLONES ARE. Customers be damned.

I was beaten down weeks ago for comparing this issue with the cloning in the FTA scene and stating that using clone kill code or trying to disable them only hurts the true customers...

Well... let me revert back to 4th grade for a moment...

I TOLD YOU SO.

Maybe some of you should listen to people with some experience. I was only trying to help to begin with. Now, I still do the same... THE ONLY WAY that the Wiikey will release an update is through bad word of mouth and pressure by the user base. Perhaps some of you should make your way over to their "official" forums and voice your opinion. At the very least, you may be able to help others from making a similar mistake buying their product.


im sorry but i still think that email is bogus just someone trying to defile the wiikey team because they cant stand that its so good and that they are not saying anything because you amongst others are putting them down:mad:

[odinfire]

im sorry but i still think that email is bogus just someone trying to defile the wiikey team because they cant stand that its so good and that they are not saying anything because you amongst others are putting them down:mad:

The email you are referring to can be ignored. Who really knows if it is true. I tend not to believe it myself. The quote I refer to is from the administrator at the site. You just need to dig around a little there. Things are mentioned here and there in different posts from the admin.

[idunder]

Like this was hard to see coming.

Waaaaay too funy. (And I own a wiikey!)

Lesson should be anything that wiinewz endorses, stay WELL away from.

All the bitching and moaning about max console being biased, the cyclowiz sucks, blah blah blah, the wiikey is the greatest blah blah blah.

In the end anyone that bought a cyclowiz is in a better postition. (I know there are free alternatives) But if you just wanted to by a mod chip and have update capabilities, the Cyclowiz was the better of the two.

And people bashed Max Console for pushing the better chip? They look pretty stupid now. (The constant, whiners about Maxconsole being biased, etc etc etc)

I really hope people speak with their money and NEVER support this sorry ass company that produced the wiikey in any of their future business.

[Sousanator]

just because they have updated their site about something not related to a wiikey update DOES NOT mean they aren't working on the update.

that is just a new post, if you click 'news' you will notice all the previous posts are still there


and even if there wont be an upgrade, i dont care, because everything that i wanted works

give them time and it will come

[DKing]

If it's true.. And they do come out with a new chip instead of releasing a firmware for the one currently out, I definitely wont be buying it. And they should be boycotted by everyone at that point.

However, I'm waiting for an official announcement before I jump to any conclusions. I don't have a problem being patient.

[Lush78]

i think that all of us wiikey owners are feeling a little cheated from empty promises...

[Sebastian25]

why would they believe that ANYONE in their right mind would buy a NEW modchip from these #$%%ers when they ripped people off $30 a pop. Why would we buy a new modchip when

A) Wiija Deluxe
B) Cyclocrap

are available and the supposeded list of "features" for the new chip are NOTHING revolutionary.

**** em. Im making sure that all my friends interested in just paying wii backups buy the clone WIIKEY for $8 and save themselves 30$ from these crooked companies.

[Topher84]

Out of curiosity... what exactly are you wanting to be updated on the firmware? The chip does what it needs to which is allow Wii backups to be played.. if you are that up on playing gamecube games you can get a gamecube for like $20 if that

[outphase]

Lesson should be anything that wiinewz endorses, stay WELL away from.

WiiFree is better than the commercial chips as it stands, and their official support forum is wiinewz

[Sebastian25]

considering that the GAMECUBE doesn't read DVD-Rs (full discs) without modding the case, and does not boot full 4 GB of homebrew (BOTH FEATURES advertised by WIIKEY)... why the hell were people paying 40$ for a modchip that didnt do HALF of what it was suppose to do? The list of "features" were nothing more than lies to attract people AWAY from other products that were not inferior.

They should issue refunds, if not be sued for false advertisement.

[Sousanator]

considering that the GAMECUBE doesn't read DVD-Rs (full discs) without modding the case, and does not boot full 4 GB of homebrew (BOTH FEATURES advertised by WIIKEY)... why the hell were people paying 40$ for a modchip that didnt do HALF of what it was suppose to do? The list of "features" were nothing more than lies to attract people AWAY from other products that were not inferior.

They should issue refunds, if not be sued for false advertisement.
what are you talking about?
the wiikey can play gamecube games, on either dvd-/+r's, and all the gc homebrew
theres only the very few gc games that need that audio fix(none of which i have expeirenced yet) and all gc originals still work

[Y2Bogus]

There's a whole lot of gun jumping going on about absolutely nil.

[spyderfreek2k]

TALKING IN CAPS BECAUSE I FEEL CHEATED OUT OF CHEATING OUT OTHER COMPANIES!!!

Like what was said earlier, "No honor among thieves." Either move on to alternatives or stay quiet about it.



Word. Maybe, just maybe, if we cause a hubabaloo we can annoy the wiikey guys soooooo much, that they may create an update!


/Sarcasm


Im sure these guys are taking a while because they are making an update that will screw up wiikey clones, unfortunately, the clones probably use the same chip and code.

I'm glad i have my cyclowiz, when there was a lot of talk of no update i got worried, and when there was no D2B support i wanted to cry....now, im pretty happy.

[davepsp]

just because they have updated their site about something not related to a wiikey update DOES NOT mean they aren't working on the update.

that is just a new post, if you click 'news' you will notice all the previous posts are still there


and even if there wont be an upgrade, i dont care, because everything that i wanted works

give them time and it will come

wow someone who agrees with me

i think that all of us wiikey owners are feeling a little cheated from empty promises...

i dont, neither does this guy so dont prejudge us faithful wiikey owners:mad:

[duros]

YUP! LOOKS LIKE SUPPORT FOR WIIKEY IS DEAD!!!

They finally updated their site and took down any mention of an update.

This is simply not true. That's all I have to say.

[junbo]

I have to say I have been happy with my Wiikey.
Cost me $39 bucks and has paid for itself many times over.
I have not once had any trouble with single back-up I have burned. The wiikey site still mentions the update. It's only been like a month since they mentioned it. I guess though I have not really even cared about the update. The chip installed well, works well, and I can play all my oodles of Wii games.
Guess it all comes down to what you are wanting out of the thing.
But I'm happy and that's what matters to me. :)

[jagojago]

Suckers, shoulda gone with a Cyclowiz.

OH WAIT, IRONY? :cool:

[Lush78]

i dont, neither does this guy so dont prejudge us faithful wiikey owners:mad:

I'm a wiikey owner too... i've installed 4 of them now... i just wish that the support was a little better... that is why i sided with this chip...

[Sebastian25]

what are you talking about?
the wiikey can play gamecube games, on either dvd-/+r's, and all the gc homebrew
theres only the very few gc games that need that audio fix(none of which i have expeirenced yet) and all gc originals still work

theres OVER 20 titles that clearly don't work at all.... and that's considering that not all 300 games have been tested.

[OblivionX]

erm maybe im wrong, but I remember with the gamecube that you could apply the audio fix to the games iso. If you can still do that now whats the problem?

[|Ed|]

The Update Is Coming :D

[07.04.29] Some more info on the coming update

We have received a lot of questions on the coming update lately.

The upgrade is now near completion. It has been delayed due to a few factors; the base system disc took longer than expected to complete, and there have been a few unexpected issues that are currently being worked on.


Making the update incompatible with clones is NOT one of those issues, though. We would also like to clarify that we do not intend to brick or render clones inoperable.

[lordsilence]

I have to stand up and defend wiikey.
It's easy to install if you know what you're doing. I'm a first time chipper, but still did it without a flaw. I thought it didnt work the first time but turns out I had just inserted the dvd upside down. :)

Basicly.. dont use any soldering iron which is >300degrees (means you'll fry that annoying capacitor near the mount point).

I dont mount it using the easy soldering points. Instead I mount it using wires. Meaning, if I want to remove it I can remove the chip and make it look factoryinstalled. Simple, just heat the solderpoints. Remove excess solder.

[odinfire]

The Update Is Coming :D

[07.04.29] Some more info on the coming update

We have received a lot of questions on the coming update lately.

The upgrade is now near completion. It has been delayed due to a few factors; the base system disc took longer than expected to complete, and there have been a few unexpected issues that are currently being worked on.


Making the update incompatible with clones is NOT one of those issues, though. We would also like to clarify that we do not intend to brick or render clones inoperable.

We'll see... looks like they started taking some heat from the buyers.

[rnelson1415]

We'll see... looks like they started taking some heat from the buyers.
They've been working on the update the whole time! Just because they didn't say anything doesn't mean people haven't been asking about it.

[diablos30]

odinfire is nothing but a troll, he keeps bashing wiikey even after its annouced that the update is coming out. just ignore him and hopefully he'll go away.

[duros]

odinfire is nothing but a troll, he keeps bashing wiikey even after its annouced that the update is coming out. just ignore him and hopefully he'll go away.
Pretty much... unsubstantiated accusations and blatant lies about site info is just good old fashioned chip bashing.

[odinfire]

odinfire is nothing but a troll, he keeps bashing wiikey even after its annouced that the update is coming out. just ignore him and hopefully he'll go away.

Actually, all I was doing was trying to keep others informed on how coders using clone kill are pretty much unethical. Bottom line is, Wiikey team advertised their product with false claims to begin with... they lied. When they finally acknowledged it... a month later, they let their cutomers hang while they decided to deal with clones... as a matter of fact... Wiikey customers are still hanging...

Believe what you want, I follow other electronic scenes that deal with clones, and clone killing is nothing new. While you will continue to wait for your precious update with added clone kill, I will be enjoying a different product that has ethical coders and puts their users first (open source).

I hope when they do release their update with clone kill code it kills your genuine Wiikey. Then you can wait longer for another fix. Enjoy your headaches.

[Sebastian25]

HOW IS CLONE KILLING UNETHICAL?

just because you bought a clone doesn't mean they owe you ANYTHING.

[DKing]

Believe what you want, I follow other electronic scenes that deal with clones, and clone killing is nothing new. While you will continue to wait for your precious update with added clone kill, I will be enjoying a different product that has ethical coders and puts their users first (open source).

Sweet. I guess that means you'll not be participating in any future WiiKey threads. Enjoy your different product! We wont miss you very much.

[AceMilo]

This is pointless chip bashing. First we saw it with the cyclo and now ppl are bashing the wiikey. There is no reason to post blatant hate. Closed.