CycloWiz Vs Wiikey - Which one is best now?

[Zeus]

MC reader Trevor N. sent us the following chart comparing the CycloWiz to the features offered by the WiiKey. From his chart it appears as if the CycloWiz is clearly dominating the state of the play. However do you agree? Let us know which of these high flyign mods is tops in your books and why!

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[omega59]

yawn another boring thread to trash wiikey...
wiikey is by far better chip i don't care what they say.

[Saosin7]

So CycloWiz really is better?

Or have they left out some information?

[zloot]

no wiikey update until they block clone

[Perkele]

Bad flash recovery: Cyclowitz: no, Wiikey: yes
Upgrade without external switch: Cyclowitz no, Wiikey: yes

[BSotM]

you forgot one

is owned by the same company as Maxconsole: yes | no

[PSPWAD]

Maxconsole is not owned by any of the companies! Any more posts that bash Maxconsole will result in a PERMANENT ban. If you don't like us go elsewhere!

[guest]

some things are not true about wiikey:

> quicksolder works perfect (worked for me and I'm a newbie with solders...)
> never found a not working GC iso
> every multi disk made with WiiUI worked perfect.

and wiikey recovers from badflash, cyclowiz doesn't :D

[IBNobody]

some things are not true about wiikey:

> quicksolder works perfect (worked for me and I'm a newbie with solders...)
> never found a not working GC iso
> every multi disk made with WiiUI worked perfect.

and wiikey recovers from badflash, cyclowiz doesn't :D

The GC iso problem is legit. It has to do with the audiofix. Finding Nemo, WaveRacer, and Eternal Darkness won't play right.

[guest]

The GC iso problem is legit. It has to do with the audiofix. Finding Nemo, WaveRacer, and Eternal Darkness won't play right.

WiiUI GC multi disk creator solves the audio problem with GC games. (if I'm not wrong, but I'm not 100% sure)

[IBNobody]

WiiUI GC multi disk creator solves the audio problem with GC games. (if I'm not wrong, but I'm not 100% sure)

No.

Emu_Kidid has stated that his multi-boot program (v3, included in WiiUI) does not fix WiiKey audio problems. It's because the WiiKey uses its own form of audiofix.

[mr_dimsum]

It's interesting they missed some significant points that make owning a Cyclowiz a nightmare..

The need for a switch (if you choose to upgrade), the lackadaisical support from it's developers, the slow firmware upgrades, the even slower D2B-compatible firmware upgrades, the issues with the 2x read speed pre-firmware upgrade, the inability to recover from a flash..

Not downplaying Cyclowiz's future success or anything, but that comparison isn't fair and quite biased towards Cyclowiz being that they did not offer any cons towards the unit when they evidently, there is quite a few that has been expressed by owners with great distress.

[Lefty420]

some things are not true about wiikey:

> quicksolder works perfect (worked for me and I'm a newbie with solders...)
> never found a not working GC iso
> every multi disk made with WiiUI worked perfect.

and wiikey recovers from badflash, cyclowiz doesn't :D

Yup same here that table is bullcrap. Maxconsole has the right to post what they want but at the end of the day its up too you what you to make up you own minds. Read the forums most people prefer wiikey.

[blackstripes]

Maxconsole is not owned by any of the companies! Any more posts that bash Maxconsole will result in a PERMANENT ban. If you don't like us go elsewhere!

:eek: ...........

[Happsai]

Interesting how that chart left out "Ability to recover from bad flash". That is worth more than any of the advantages than cyclowiz has.

And if I were to play by the chart's rules (seemingly) I could add things like "Works right away without firmware updates", or "Good communication from development team to consumers" or "Good reputation for keeping promises on deliverables" or "complete risk-free (from brickage) upon updating".

Interesting how this chart left out some things...:rolleyes:

[byteworkz]

Bad flash recovery: Cyclowitz: no, Wiikey: yes
Upgrade without external switch: Cyclowitz no, Wiikey: yes

Yeah I also think the Wiikey really wins at this point. It is just more easy.
And I see this generation of modchips as temporary solution until "real" modchips are here not just drive chips

[kronikdaddy]

After my cyclowiz froze during upgrade(i let it sit for 2+ hours on the same frozen screen) They just told me its my media or burner. Funny how all my media worked before and NOTHING but originals work now.

I think im going to Wiikey just for the flash failsafe, Cyclowiz was a good chip until i tried to flash it with the flash from their site and their flash killed my chip less than a month after i got it and they dont care and just give me a bunch of BS instead of a new chip.

[vEGA-rJ]

I own a Wiikey, and it works like a charm. Every Gc game i tried it worked perfectly, except the ones without audiofix (like eternal darkness or waverace).
Perfect on the wii side.

[whackawookie]

meh im not about persuading people for the chip to choose. I'm happy with my purchase and hope others are aswell

[AceMilo]

All off-topic posts have been removed. Stay on topic.

[cyph31]

I just wanted to say :

1)Quicksolder exists for wiikey...
but a motherboard/dvd board solder is the worst thing you have to do :

-Bad solder point will destroy circuit on your board : See ebay and the silly "i destroy my wii while trying to install my chip"...
-No real interest.

Conclusion : Quicksolder exists on wiikey (correct your tab, since it is not true...) and quicksolder is definitly NOT a so good feature.

2) Wiikey is as easy to install as cyclo...by a professional...only...
Oh, yes it is, and you don't need a blinking led to understand that you need a professional to do the job...for every chip. Another time : see ebay and the silly "i destroy my wii while trying to install my chip MYSELF...with a sledgehammer...")

3) Finally, on the disabling chip feature, i would only say that i installed the chip to use it...and if some prefer an external DIP (oh my god, a NTSC/PAL external DIP on my old SNES...) i would prefer the Stealth mode feature of the wiikey...

Please next time, compare correctly the features and be objective.
Please correct your tab to say : Quicksolder yes, stealth mode yes
Do not forget to mention that if your learnt "shrimp business" you should not install a chip by yourself, even if you have a blinking led to help you...

Regards

[s00pcan]

The wiikey doesn't have blinking leds and you can't disable it (unless you want to solder a simple switch)! I don't think anyone cares. Also, you can't quicksolder it? Then all of those people that did must be mistaken. This is stupid.

[rommy667]

neither wiinja kicks all their butts its true :)

[Biznarie]

Yah... i would have to say thats quite the biased chart, thing is none of the features the cyclowiz has that the wiikey dosent i really give a crap about, but when i think of the things they left out (bad flash recovery... etc) they are things i need, imo the wiikey is a more solid chip it seems to have more potential then cyclowiz in the future also. Not like i didnt expect something like this to be posted on maxconsole they seem to LOVE the cyclowiz :rolleyes:

Barry~

[Biznarie]

The wiikey doesn't have blinking leds and you can't disable it (unless you want to solder a simple switch)! I don't think anyone cares. Also, you can't quicksolder it? Then all of those people that did must be mistaken. This is stupid.

I believe the quicksolder thing there refering to is the new dvd board on the Wii's from asia, since the wiikey has 1 extra point compared to the cyclowiz it does not line up anymore so you would need to use 1 extra wire. On that point, quicksolder is not the best way to go anyways :p

[Basta]

best thing is, bad flash recovery, cyclo dont have this flash your cylco kill your chip thats best cyclo can do

[AceMilo]

I believe the quicksolder thing there refering to is the new dvd board on the Wii's from asia, since the wiikey has 1 extra point compared to the cyclowiz it does not line up anymore so you would need to use 1 extra wire. On that point, quicksolder is not the best way to go anyways :p

No, it refers to the fact that the points on the wiikey do not line up to the points on the board. The chip is about 1/8" off from the 4 lower points so it is very hard to quick solder, and also the chip's pcb is way too thick to easily quick solder to the board. Altho honestly I would never quick solder either chip.

[Slowking]

All off-topic posts have been removed. Stay on topic.
So to point out a negative thing about the cyclo that is missing on this comparison-chart is of topic now? Na schönen Schrank auch.

[ASSPOP]

wow, what a great comparison on which one is better. :rolleyes: yea, cyclowiz is selling more thats for sure. :rolleyes:

So to point out a negative thing about the cyclo that is missing on this comparison-chart is of topic now? Na schönen Schrank auch.

lol yea, i guess so my friend, they want to delete any negative thing, i mean cmon they don't want people to know of what really the cyclowiz is. ;)

[cyph31]

The wiikey doesn't have blinking leds and you can't disable it (unless you want to solder a simple switch)! I don't think anyone cares. Also, you can't quicksolder it? Then all of those people that did must be mistaken. This is stupid.

1) Yes, wiikey doesn't have blinking led, but, this "only cyclowiz feature" let you think that it will help you...forget this little useless feature, professionnal don't need that and if you are not a professionnal, doesnt count on it.

2) Stealth mode of the wiikey is forgotten in the comparison table...even if a switch is the best thing for paranoid people, i prefer to be factual : stealth mode has NOT been written in the table...strange?

3) Yes, the wiikey can be quicksoldered, but i think it is not a good feature from a different point of view...

http://www.xavboxwii.com/photos/wiikey/Wiikey_3.jpg

[haki]

glad to see this thread cuz i just ordered my wiikey from modchipstore.com =) and now i really know i went with the better mod

[11111]

that quicksolder part is pretty misleading but whatever just hire someone for under 30 bux to do wire like i did.

i also do like that the wiikey doesnt need to have a freaking switch or whatever. that crap bothers me.

but i do wish wiikey team would come out with an update soon for audio fix (really not a big deal to me), more compatibility/less dre, and i want to see their little "we'll zap clones!!!!!!!!!!" fix that they've been posting everywhere trying to scare people on wiinewz.

edit:
at this point i'm a little surprised that those chinamen havent come out with cyclowiz clones. wonder why...

edit2:
LOLOL divineo MOVED from wiikey resellers section. owned.

[AceMilo]

That's enough. I deleted posts that were OFF TOPIC, nothing else. Since this thread has again gone towards flaming, it's been closed.