Wiikey bugs with audio streamed GC games.

[idunder]

I think it's ironic that the site that so heavily hyped the wiikey does not push the bugs the wiikey has. (wiinewz) They sure did allot of bashing of the Cyclowiz during the time the update was being prepared.

For those that do not already know, the wiikey cannot play ANY audiostreamed games from the GC properly. One of the listed features of this chip is the capability to do this automatically. There is even the capability to toggle it on and off.

It's obvious the makers of Wiikey did not test this feature. They could have played ANY one game that has audio streaming on the GC to see this issue.

There is NOTHING that I can see on the wiikey site regarding this issue, or any plans on fixing it. At least Cyclowiz owned up to problems they had.

So how do the wiikey fanboys justify this?

Hopefully the makers of the wiikey will announce plans to fix this issue.

[Stefanic]

What gamecube games have streaming audio?

I'm no fanboy, chose the wiikey for compatibility and upgradability.
But if what you say is true I am disappointed...

[whackawookie]

What gamecube games have streaming audio?

I'm no fanboy, chose the wiikey for compatibility and upgradability.
But if what you say is true I am disappointed...

its been a while since the gc days but I think a few are, eternal darkness, waverace, starfox and 1080. there are more but I don't have a good memory on this manner

[Mordenkainen]

RE 0 & 4 IIRC

Lost Kingdoms - This one I am sure uses it.

Morden.

[CUBERT]

I'm playing RE0 right now and it's working flawless.

[idunder]

I'm playing RE0 right now and it's working flawless.

Yeah I don't think that game streams audio.

Wave racer, etneral darkness, and the ikarugua or whatever it's called (the oldschool shooter) are the three ones that I noticed with. I know there are a few other popular ones also.

There are others that stream audio also, just not as popular.

I have read that others have emailed the makers of wiikey with no responces.

[CUBERT]

At least Cyclowiz owned up to problems they had.

So how do the wiikey fanboys justify this?


Simply as this.... it's cause Cyclocheese-wiz cant solve their problems, so they have to mention it.

[idunder]

Simply as this.... it's cause Cyclocheese-wiz cant solve their problems, so they have to mention it.

Do you mean, simple as this? And what exactly do you mean?

[CUBERT]

I didnt play any games that you mention with my Wii (wave race, ethernal darkness, ikaragua) beside ethernal darkness the others are not great games anyway.

And yes... like i mention before. When you know that u cant fix your problem(like cyclowiz) u better have to mention it on your site.

At least wiikey can solve them.

it's not that i'm a wiikey fan.....but i buy this one because for me it's look like it was the best.....and i have nothing bad to say about this chips for now....all that i'm throwing at just work flawless (wii backup, gc backup, Gba games, snes games, multidisk dvd....)

[Tall King Crap]

thought the app FSTfix 1.5f solved these problems for gamecube stuff
either the old fashioned command prompt version (FSTFIX_v1.5f) or the GUI version (wiped gcm fixer GUI)

This seemed to solved a lot of troublesome GC iso problems of streaming and ensures that gcm's or GC iso's were padded correctly to the proper size (1,459,978,240 bytes or whatever it is)

Helped fix a few titles for xenogc owners as well as Viper/Qoob owners too

[idunder]

I didnt play any games that you mention with my Wii (wave race, ethernal darkness, ikaragua) beside ethernal darkness the others are not great games anyway.

And yes... like i mention before. When you know that u cant fix your problem(like cyclowiz) u better have to mention it on your site.

At least wiikey can solve them.

it's not that i'm a wiikey fan.....but i buy this one because for me it's look like it was the best.....and i have nothing bad to say about this chips for now....all that i'm throwing at just work flawless (wii backup, gc backup, Gba games, snes games, multidisk dvd....)

But Cyclowiz, did fix their issues. So I am not sure what you are refering to.

And wiikey has not fixed anything yet, everyone touted how well the wiikey works when it has obvious bugs.

It was sold as a chip that can be quick soldered. (yeah right)
It was sold as having audio fix capabilties on GC games. (Does not work)

At this point the Cyclowiz (and the wiinja/wiinja deluxe? - not sure) is the only chip that really offers quick solder solution and works with all WII and supports GC with audio fix.

So I am not even sure what you are going on about.

And yes there is a tool to modify ISO's to work around the audio fix. But from what I recall it still is not 100% (At least back when you needed to do it with the Cobra, there were still audio glitches which were annoying)

[CUBERT]

i did mine quicksoldering

So I am not even sure what you are going on about.

Let me remind you that's it's you who came posting bad things about the wiikey...so maybe your the one who's a fanatic of cyclowiz.


ok enough badmouthing.....you are happy with your chip and i'm happy with mine....so let just be happy of what we got and enjoying it instead of jurking the other chips :)

[idunder]

i did mine quicksoldering

Great, you either had to use wire extensions (2+mm of wire from the PCB) or you bridged solder over 2 mm's of wiikey PCB which is not very reliable.

The board is almost 3 times thicker then the Cyclowiz and only has copper on the topside of the PCB on 4 of the connections. (I have a wiikey)

Post a pic of you soldering job if you don't mind.

[idunder]

i did mine quicksoldering

So I am not even sure what you are going on about.

Let me remind you that's it's you who came posting bad things about the wiikey...so maybe your the one who's a fanatic of cyclowiz

Hey I am just posting the truth.

If you can't handle it, there are other posts to troll in.

[CUBERT]

yes briged the chips to the Wii.....but the job was done under 5 minutes

ok enough badmouthing.....you are happy with your chip and i'm happy with mine....so let just be happy of what we got and enjoying it instead of jurking the other chips.

But next time...please support your chips instead.

[Tall King Crap]

FTSfix failed to fix a certain Star Wars Rouge Sqaudron II game but is was screwed anyway and failed to boot in

viper with 1.2 cobra bios
Qoob SX 1.2c i think
&
Xenogc 1.0

where as at least 3 maybe 4 moody titles did work flawlessly
(one was only 1gb gcm size and after fixing my son finished the game so I know it worked on Attack of the Twonkies)

besides, if there exists the odd 1 or 2 GC titles that may not work 101% perfect I am not too fussed, coz GC stuff in itself can be a bit picky.
(check out some of the fun n games some peeps have had with modded GameCubes and yet others have had no real problems at all - burneers & media can make a big difference on GC)

Lets face it, the 360 can't play all xbox originals, the PS2 can play every PSX title out there etc.....

If there is some actual list of troublesome games then I may look into it, but the possible 1 or 2 titles that may or may not work - I thin I can live with that

[Basta]

idunder you are a gay, for me wiikey dont have any issue, played f-zero and starfox on multi disk, it works good without audio problems maybe you spend not much money for wiikey and bought a wiikey clone.

[idunder]

idunder you are a gay, for me wiikey dont have any issue, played f-zero and starfox on multi disk, it works good without audio problems maybe you spend not much money for wiikey and bought a wiikey clone.

Just because you do not have any issues with the wikkey does not mean it does not have issues. Re-read the first message in this this thread.

The wiikey has known issues with ALL GC audiostreaming games.

Look around, others have confirmed this.

Just like people that called Cyclowiz on their issues, the makers of the wiikey should be called on this.

They claim it supports automatic fixing of GC audio stream games, it does not work. It's doable since other chips support it fine.

[Sebastian25]

how did maxconsole "push" the wiikey... they were too busy boasting how great the cyclowiz is. I think you need to get ur head examined, your whole post reaks of hypocrisy.

the cyclowiz BRICKS Wiis and they FINALLY fixed some of the issues. Xeno is already working on a fix for the audio stream ... so hold ur horses. DAMN.

[Sebastian25]

so of u are so damn impatient, why don't you complain about cyclocrap... it has been out longer and took longer to fix... ASS.

[SpanKie]

the cyclowiz BRICKS Wiis and they FINALLY fixed some of the issues. Xeno is already working on a fix for the audio stream ... so hold ur horses. DAMN.

The WIZ doesn't BRICK Wiis, people do.

I've modded over 15 Wii with the WIZ all different versions and never had a single problem. Every report of a dead drive, etc with the WIZ install was due to the lack of skills or knowledge of installing one. (and yes, I've done WK installs as well.) All wired jobs.

[idunder]

how did maxconsole "push" the wiikey... they were too busy boasting how great the cyclowiz is. I think you need to get ur head examined, your whole post reaks of hypocrisy.

the cyclowiz BRICKS Wiis and they FINALLY fixed some of the issues. Xeno is already working on a fix for the audio stream ... so hold ur horses. DAMN.

When was it said in this post that Maxconsole pushed the Wiikey?

I think you need to take another ritalin. And re-read.

[OntzA]

If you are looking for a full list of audio streaming games here you have it:

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/gamecube-chat/streaming-audio-fix-game-list-91.html

IMO Wiikey and Cyclowiz are just expensive and nothing else. I bought a Wiimod 1.2 (Wiimod isn't a Wiinja clone as someone said, it's imposible because the 1.03 version didn't have audiofix and Wiinja did) for 10€ and everything works. No DREs, no drive speed issues, no GC audio problems and the selfboot multigame GCOS works pefectly.

Of course, it doesn't have those flashy features as region patching or DVD update. Who needs them if patching an ISO takes 1s and any future update won't bring any important feature (I won't say ripping original Wii games to SD is a key feature, you can do it now in 2h 30min with an LG drive in your computer, no need to split the ISO).
Well, may be having DVD+RW support could be something I miss... but WiiFree will have it soon enough, and I don't need to open my Wii to change the modchip. Future updates? With free modchips you get updates in not much time and building a PIC programmer device is way cheap.

[garyopa]

The board is almost 3 times thicker then the Cyclowiz and only has copper on the topside of the PCB on 4 of the connections. (I have a wiikey)

If you WIIKEY only has copper on the topside, then it is a CLONE.

Check out this picture:

http://www.eurasia.nu/images/submitted/wk_clone.jpg

You will see that the CLONE version only has "copper" on the topside.

The original REAL WIIKEY has "copper" on both sides.

[Lazycus]

It's in another thread but the GC audio fix has already been looked at and will be in the next WiiKey update.

Each chip has it's pros/cons so you fanboys should stop exaggerating and get back to playing your backups.

[Dazimus]

As Lazycus says, the Wiikey team are aware of the bug and have fixed it for the next firmware update. Seems to me someone is trolling REAL bad ...

[chromium]

thought the app FSTfix 1.5f solved these problems for gamecube stuff
either the old fashioned command prompt version (FSTFIX_v1.5f) or the GUI version (wiped gcm fixer GUI)

This seemed to solved a lot of troublesome GC iso problems of streaming and ensures that gcm's or GC iso's were padded correctly to the proper size (1,459,978,240 bytes or whatever it is)

Helped fix a few titles for xenogc owners as well as Viper/Qoob owners too

Doesn't work in this case. I tried Eternal Darkness and Ikaruga, with every posisble combination using FST 1.5 and no luck. Wiikey need to release a fix and fix it fast, I've been banging on about this issue for ages now. Really pissing me off Eternal Darkness and Ikargua are awesome games I need to play on my Wii.

[Sebastian25]

When was it said in this post that Maxconsole pushed the Wiikey?

I think you need to take another ritalin. And re-read.

Sorry. ur lame ass trolling made me lose all focus ... same **** different day.. i tend to zone out people like u. whatever, why don't you go do something more productive with ur time.. like go play in traffic.

[chromium]

When was it said in this post that Maxconsole pushed the Wiikey?

I think you need to take another ritalin. And re-read.


Funny that you are getting abuse from these obvious Wiikey fanbois.
There are clear issues with the Wiikey GC compatibility, it broke my original Eternal Darkness (for the umpteenth time). Those who want to sweep it under the carpet fine, but it's not going away.

[chromium]

Sorry. ur lame ass trolling made me lose all focus ... same **** different day.. i tend to zone out people like u. whatever, why don't you go do something more productive with ur time.. like go play in traffic.

How the hell is it trolling??
The Wiikey has broken audio fix for GC games, it makes some games DRE, even originals. Wiikey may well know of this issue (of course they do), but they haven't made their customers aware that they know or their intentions to fix it. Wake up guys!

[chromium]

idunder you are a gay, for me wiikey dont have any issue, played f-zero and starfox on multi disk, it works good without audio problems maybe you spend not much money for wiikey and bought a wiikey clone.

So two GC games work fine for you and that means there are no issues with any games?

That's hardly what I'd call a decent sample size.

[11111]

how did this even turn into an argument?

wiikey's gonna update soon so i dont see how this issue is a big deal.

[idunder]

As Lazycus says, the Wiikey team are aware of the bug and have fixed it for the next firmware update. Seems to me someone is trolling REAL bad ...

Trolling? Where does it state anywhere on the official wiikey site that they plan on fixing this issue with streaming audio.

Nowhere that I have read.

[idunder]

If you WIIKEY only has copper on the topside, then it is a CLONE.

Check out this picture:

http://www.eurasia.nu/images/submitted/wk_clone.jpg

You will see that the CLONE version only has "copper" on the topside.

The original REAL WIIKEY has "copper" on both sides.

I have the 1st version, (on your screenshot - first row) and only 2 of the points have conductive material on both sides of the PCB. I should not have said copper.

It looks like the "latest version" pics (2nd row) that have gold traces, those 4 connections now go through the PCB, as you can see on the bottom screenshot. So at least quick solder would work better with that version.

If you look closely at the first row pics, which I have.. the 4 connections only have the conductive trace on the top of the PCB, you can see PCB clearly in the pic.

I got my wiikey through Divineo China

[idunder]

how did this even turn into an argument?

wiikey's gonna update soon so i dont see how this issue is a big deal.


Where does it state there is an update to fix this issue on the wiikey site?

[Basta]

So two GC games work fine for you and that means there are no issues with any games?

That's hardly what I'd call a decent sample size.

I posted only this where i thought to had audi stream, the other games like mario party 4-8, full mario serie, baseball kart, soccer etc works great too so i dont have any problems with this games on multiboot dvd, mabye its your messes up rip.

[ASSPOP]

I have the 1st version, (on your screenshot - first row) and only 2 of the points have conductive material on both sides of the PCB. I should not have said copper.

It looks like the "latest version" pics (2nd row) that have gold traces, those 4 connections now go through the PCB, as you can see on the bottom screenshot. So at least quick solder would work better with that version.

If you look closely at the first row pics, which I have.. the 4 connections only have the conductive trace on the top of the PCB, you can see PCB clearly in the pic.

I got my wiikey through Divineo China

and you know divineo.cn is selling clones and real ones at the same time right?

[Yopadato]

It's true that Wiikey modchip can't run any GC Audio Streaming game properly. I think they're aware of this issue. emu_kidid told me he discussed with a member of the Wiikey team and that the problem was already fixed. So, hope it will be fixed in the next firmware ! :cool:

So two GC games work fine for you and that means there are no issues with any games?

That's hardly what I'd call a decent sample size.

You're right chromium this is not a decent sample size! Anyway, F-Zero and Starfox don't get DRE with my Wiikey, but does anyone can run following games with Wiikey ?

- Ikaruga (DRE at first stage)
- Wave Race : Blue Storm (DRE when coming back to the menu or even before)
- Eternal Darkness (DRE when launching a game)
- Naruto 1 - 4 (DRE at battle loading screen)

You can either play with original dics or backups, you'll get same DRE's...

[chromium]

I posted only this where i thought to had audi stream, the other games like mario party 4-8, full mario serie, baseball kart, soccer etc works great too so i dont have any problems with this games on multiboot dvd, mabye its your messes up rip.

My original Eternal Darkness is a bad rip? Funny that it works on my GC
Yes, lots of games do work, but I bet you can't play Eternal Darkness or Ikaruga on your Wii with a Wiikey installed.

[Perkele]

I bought a Wiimod 1.2 (Wiimod isn't a Wiinja clone as someone said, it's imposible because the 1.03 version didn't have audiofix and Wiinja did) for 10€ and everything works.
Even 10€ is a rip off, the 12F629 costs about 1€ and the code they use is available for free.

[Sebastian25]

Where does it state there is an update to fix this issue on the wiikey site?

"And yes, the first firmware update is already being worked on. Stay tuned!"

---

and emu_kidd spoke with them and confirmed that it has been fixed and the release date is pending. now STFU.

[idunder]

"And yes, the first firmware update is already being worked on. Stay tuned!"

---

and emu_kidd spoke with them and confirmed that it has been fixed and the release date is pending. now STFU.

You are a complete utter moron, "And yes, the first firmware update is already being worked on. Stay tuned!" does not translate to we know there is an issue with audio streaming and it will be fixed.

They have NOT acknowledged the bug on their website, which is what I said, you come back with that as proof. Just shut up already, you are no help.

As far as emu_kidd, you are just reposting what Yopadato posted before you.

Like you would know anything at all. You can't even read. You come in here responding to me about **** I did not even post, if you don't like me questioning the chip, don't post.

Thanks Yopadato at least for the info, it would be nice if Wiikey let everyone know they were working on a fix.

[idunder]

and you know divineo.cn is selling clones and real ones at the same time right?

I've read that, and as far as the pics that I have seen go, I have an original. (And I have run the disc to toggle items without issue) - So even if I had a clone, it would have to be the same micro controller.

Even if it turned out they got a batch of "clones" if it's the same exact micro controller , It would update the same. (and work the same) The PCB is a very very simple design.

I can understand people pushing don't buy clones etc, but as far as stability goes, if it's the same micro controller. There should not be stability issues. As you can see from the pictures the boards are almost identical.

[Sebastian25]

You are a complete utter moron, "And yes, the first firmware update is already being worked on. Stay tuned!" does not translate to we know there is an issue with audio streaming and it will be fixed.

They have NOT acknowledged the bug on their website, which is what I said, you come back with that as proof. Just shut up already, you are no help.

As far as emu_kidd, you are just reposting what Yopadato posted before you.

Like you would know anything at all. You can't even read. You come in here responding to me about **** I did not even post, if you don't like me questioning the chip, don't post.

Thanks Yopadato at least for the info, it would be nice if Wiikey let everyone know they were working on a fix.

hey buddy ... take a PAXIL and calm the F00K down... you sound like a lil b!tch. maybe that sand in ur vagina is makin ur cranky. *farts in yo mouth* you smell like **** ... aahahahhahahahahaha

what part of UPDATE doesn't translate to a FIX, ur so f00kin anal rententive... get a LIFE asshole

[idunder]

hey buddy ... take a PAXIL and calm the F00K down... you sound like a lil b!tch. maybe that sand in ur vagina is makin ur cranky. *farts in yo mouth* you smell like **** ... aahahahhahahahahaha

what part of UPDATE doesn't translate to a FIX, ur so f00kin anal rententive... get a LIFE asshole

They never said what is being updated, oh wait that's right you can't read.

You couldn't even mod your own wii. What are you doing here anyhow?

Just stop posting in this thread, you have nothing valuable to add.

This thread was to discuss the current bug with the wiikey and as it stands currently, there has been NO official announcement from the makers of the wiikey that they even plan on fixing this bug.

So it might be helpful for those looking to purchase a chip NOW, if they want better compatibility (ie to play GC games with audio streaming) maybe the Cyclowiz would be a better alternative, or any other mod that is also working with the GC streaming titles.

[chromium]

Are the Wiikey guys just ignoring this and hoping it goes away?
Because it's not going to.
Does anyone have any info on an update?
How can I retire my GC when my original Eternal Darkness doesn't work on my Wii? Do I have to remove the Wiikey or what?

[arashb]

either way idc if it cant do that all i care about is the recovery flash part

[11111]

i have already emailed support to please update the audiofix.

everyone should email them too so they know it exists.

[Eddie25]

I turned off Audiofix on Wiikey and tried using fstfix to fix the audio on an image of eternal darkness. It had exactly the same result as when I had audiofix turned on on the Wiikey. So the Wiikey apparently fixes the audio the same way it was fixed on the gamecube, but because of some difference between the Wii and the gamecube, the same technique doesn't work.

That's probably why there's been some delay in fixing the firmware because they have to figure out what the difference is between the Wii and the gamecube in terms of the way they handle gamecube audio streams. If it was simply some error in the implementation it would likely have been promptly fixed.

[Yopadato]

That's probably why there's been some delay in fixing the firmware because they have to figure out what the difference is between the Wii and the gamecube in terms of the way they handle gamecube audio streams. If it was simply some error in the implementation it would likely have been promptly fixed.

Yeah...but it works with other modchips. I can play Naruto 4, Eternal Darkness, and Ikaruga with my Cyclowiz and WiiFree, but doesn't work with Wiikey...if other teams can fix it, Wiikey team should be able ti fix it!

[11111]

yep i'm waiting for updates too.

no.1 i want to see them actually do some updating for possible better dre issues and audio fix.

no.2 i want to see them zap clones. we'll see if they'll walk the walk.
if it ends up zapping people's supposed clones from divineo that site needs to get ready to close down. they'll be in sooo much crap.

[Eddie25]

yep i'm waiting for updates too.

no.1 i want to see them actually do some updating for possible better dre issues and audio fix.

no.2 i want to see them zap clones. we'll see if they'll walk the walk.
if it ends up zapping people's supposed clones from divineo that site needs to get ready to close down. they'll be in sooo much crap.

I wish that they would stop this nonsense about zapping clones. I suspect the reason we don't have the firmware update yet is because they're trying to make sure they can zap the clones.

Bear in mind that most of the people who purchased clones believed they were buying the real deal (and supposedly a number have purchased them from Divineo, a retailer many people thought to be reputable).

BTW, I do have a real Wiikey purchased from an authorized dealer.

[amptor]

If you WIIKEY only has copper on the topside, then it is a CLONE.

Check out this picture:

http://www.eurasia.nu/images/submitted/wk_clone.jpg

You will see that the CLONE version only has "copper" on the topside.

The original REAL WIIKEY has "copper" on both sides.

hmm this doesn't say much, I'd be more interested in knowing for sure if the clone has a real ATMEL chip on it or not. It looks the same apart from the whole top of the chip being sanded off. Looks like the clone is the same thing as original besides the board appearing different (everything connects the same). Not sure what the big deal is over this clone, if it works it'll work exactly 100% the same as the original. Also it's funny watching people squabble over the clone, when there are no patent or copywright laws about bootlegging bootleg merchandise. Plus those who complain aren't the ones making money off of it, someone's sitting back with a box of popcorn paid for with your money ;)

btw I've seen a lot of threadbashing maxconsole on these forums about chips and vendors... I think those users are lame..this is a good site, good news, and I think the maxconsole bashers should be banned on sight, should be a forum rule to not disobey the admins.

[11111]

^
i do agree that this site is a great site. and honestly even if they are biased with some things the admins and mods put up with alot of crap and i give em props for handling that well.

anyways i also would like to know the integrity of the wiikey clones compared to 'originals'. hopefully sometime soon someone will be curious and smart enough to tell us the difference.

[Elitetowerguard]

old thread didn't mean to revive it sry.

[evala]

i know its a really old thread but WTF, i recently bought a Wiikey2 and the streaming audio GC games still doesn't run on???

Will the Wiikey Team evar fix this problem or they are sliding it away with the time?!?