Team Cyclops CycloWiz Wii Update Officially enter Test Phase!

[Zeus]

To the delight of many current and potential CycloWiz owners, Team Cyclops has announced that their firmware upgrade for the Wii mod has officially entered the testing phase. Rest assured an elegant and cool looking update complete with a GUI is on the way, and it is only a matter of DAYS before an official public build is out there. Team Cyclops have even challenged the beta testers to release their alpha build should something not surface very soon. Either way, an update is coming and in the very near future.

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Sorry for the lack of news lately. While we didn't update the site we tried to keep up with support mails as we wanted to wait for something concrete for the site. We clearly underestimated the time needed to create the upgrade disc and we apologize for that.

First of all, solving the slowdown issue was only possible by changing the whole firmware structure. Technically speaking, up until now the chip was becoming transparent just before disc started to spin. It was not possible to use this method while using full speed reading. This major structure change lead to some other problems that had to be resolved and a lot of testing and debugging had to be performed. That alone took much more time than what we expected, but we now have an elegant solution, the chip becomes transparent as soon as the disc is initialized. The other major challenge was making an upgrader with a GUI, what we didn't plan to do at first. While it sounds simple, the complexity of the task was not properly evaluated.

We are happy to say than both the new firmware and the upgrader are entering testing phase. While we still have to fix a couple of minor bugs and test it on several consoles, we are really close to the public release.

We already sent the current version of the upgrader to a few respected sceners. One video of the upgrader in action on a first generation CycloWiz has already been put online here. We know that people don't want videos or reviews, but be assured that it's only a question of days : the testers are free to release the alpha upgrader should we not provide a final upgrader within one week. We'll keep you updated daily until it's released. We hope this clarifies the situation.


Official Website: <A href="http://www.teamcyclops.com" target="_blank">TeamCyclops.com</a>

[*StoneCold*]

So if this is not released in 7 days from now, whackawookie is allowed to release the version he has? Thats EXACTLY what they are sayin.

[foobar2k]

Finally TeamCyclops have answered our prayers.

This is EXACTLY how a company should act.

Perfect (but a little late ;) )

[coadyj]

team cyclops are theifing bastereds. Probably stole code from wiifree or something like that.

We still dont know that it is upgradable. just that they can write a gui.

[foobar2k]

team cyclops are theifing bastereds. Probably stole code from wiifree or something like that.

We still dont know that it is upgradable. just that they can write a gui.

I just looked at your post history and there are plenty of posts laying into cyclowiz and teamcyclops. Do you work for wiinja/wiikey perhaps? Haha

Just keep quiet if you have nothing constructive to say, your trolling is wasting space.

[mistermisfit]

This is good news indeed ! :D

In fairness, TC did answer emails regarding the update and although its late it seems they are true to their word.

[tX_ram]

Wasn't the update supposed to be out weeks ago?

[foobar2k]

Wasn't the update supposed to be out weeks ago?

Yeah it was, it took them much longer than expected.
Check out their news announcement on the homepage for more details:

http://www.teamcyclops.com/news.html

Edit: Or in fact read the OP to see the text there!

[Happsai]

This is great news, although I'm still very displeased with the lack of communication with delay after delay. Oh well.
So for now this really is nothing new for us (still waiting)...
I don't want to turn this into another one of those threads, but how come this makes the front page almost immediately meanwhile wiikey has been having some fantastic news/reviews over the past couple of weeks and been completely neglected?

When it comes to MC front page coverage: Wiikey has some great news--nothing. Someone at Teamcyclops farts--front page!

Don't get me wrong, I think both chips are excellent! As such, praise is deserved for both. I have stood up to the bias accusers at MC in the past, but the issue is very quickly becoming too obvious. Keep the commercials, keep the publicity and links and promotions, but please try to cover all the products with full zeal so MC can be a complete news source.:)

[dohclude]

Does anybody know if it would be possible to get my V1 Cyclowiz working on my D2B wii with this new update? I never could get the reseller OR teamcyclops to issue me a replacement, so I have a $40 keychain as of now, still wrapped in the ESD package. :( :( :(

[foobar2k]

Does anybody know if it would be possible to get my V1 Cyclowiz working on my D2B wii with this new update? I never could get the reseller OR teamcyclops to issue me a replacement, so I have a $40 keychain as of now, still wrapped in the ESD package. :( :( :(

I think the new update includes D2B support but I have no idea if you would be able to actually flash your cyclowiz using a D2B wii and this update. Probably best to email teamcyclops they are good at replying to emails.

[dohclude]

They WERE good at answering my emails, and they even told me that they had sent me a replacement V2 chip after I showed them my receipt... but that was two weeks ago. I never recieved my replacement AND they stopped answering my emails completely. Very shady business indeed.

[nowaymon]

I'm very glad things are moving in the right direction. We finally have a substantive news update from both resellers and TeamCyclops. It does look like "end of the week" again but at least there is a reasonable rationale behind it this time.

Both the resellers and TeamCyclops are now doing what they should be doing so please discontinue any critisisms as they are unwarranted.

Please remember that as consumers you do have a voice; if you direct it at the appropriate parties you most likely will receive a positive response. Some people will still say it was unfair to push back so hard on the resellers over the last four days but considering that the response that we received today was significantly better than the void we were dealing with for the last month the results speak for themselves.

[drquack02]

What is the difference between the alpha and the version they are trying to polish up?

Wondering if I should hold off due to an increased risk of bricking...or if I'll just be missing some extra features..

[ammmmn]

lol and this is news???

wiikey already R E L E A S E D 2 updates and it's not on the frontpage once!


cyclocrap

[whackawookie]

lol and this is news???

wiikey already R E L E A S E D 2 updates and it's not on the frontpage once!


cyclocrap

It made front page because nobody believed it was possible to upgrade, people with 100% certainty made statements about no way in hell it could be done. Wiikey was pretty much known from release hell it even had an update before it arrived at peoples houses.

[high-as-a-kite]

this is news. why are you arguing about that? there are plenty of posts about wiikey etc. not being in the news, please go there and leave this thread alone

[jaxxster]

THe wiikey hasnt had 2 updates, they've had 2 different versions of a setup disk, that isnt an update to the wiikey chip

[thePANICHIOteam]

lol and this is news???

wiikey already R E L E A S E D 2 updates and it's not on the frontpage once!


cyclocrap
The first one was posted on the "front page" and the second was a crap bug fix so it wasnt posted. So get your facts straight.

Everyone said this couldnt be done and it has been done, thats why its been posted.

[ammmmn]

It made front page because nobody believed it was possible to upgrade, people with 100% certainty made statements about no way in hell it could be done. Wiikey was pretty much known from release hell it even had an update before it arrived at peoples houses.

yes I agree it's posted once...

but why 2 times rofl...

[jbondsr]

I know that people said it couldn't be done and that why it's front page news. But I think that its sad that we've gotten to the point that we have to resort to making videos just to prove such a trivial thing as an update.
I say its trivial, because I highly doubt that someone who wants to continue selling their fairly new product would say an update is coming, and then have it prove to be impossible.

[EpochCT]

Finally TeamCyclops have answered our prayers.

This is EXACTLY how a company should act.

Perfect (but a little late ;) )

Not really, it shouldn't have come to this, and the update still isn't out. They should've saved themselves the trouble and just announce for the first time once they were this close. I guess the fact that it's at that state NOW shows how close there were to really releasing it all those weeks ago when they kept on announcing it. Great news for CycloWiz owners though.

[fredward]

How do you update it once its available? Do you put the disc in the system and then updates it?

[Xboxmodder999]

How do you update it once its available? Do you put the disc in the system and then updates it?
You boot the disc in GC mode, and then follow the instructions to flash/upgrade the chip.

[oscarRSM]

Guys,

I read so many funny things from this team last weeks...

We know UBICOM family very well, in the past we produced TITANSX, a SX28 modchip for homebrew firmwares of PS2...

Damn if really cyclowiz will release a working update method I think they are WIZARD in electronics market...
and if REALLY this system is stable, they did something that is difficoult to explain in electronics...

I spoke with my suplyer (ubicom agent in Italy) that develope many many application on SX28, when I said him what happen in WII market with SX28, and expecially I explained the UPGRADE procedure study for WII, he start to laugh... and told me "oscar, technical is impossible that this update work, first at all if you allow users to update the modchip, you will release the FINAL CODE, this mean that ALL after can buy an UBICOM SX28 and spend about 100 times less than a RETAIL PRICE of CYCLOWIZ, second the update procedure will be so unstable that is like to play with POKER!!"

In all cases I think so, all in this world can be possible... better is to wait what finally cyclowiz team release... I hope that MAXCONSOLE and DIVINEO choose the right way to support this modchips until now, sure after so many problems was better don't show a video and tell "NOW UPDATE IS SURE", I think who have a BIG forum like maxconsole, need to be carefull with announcements expecially after so many problems got on this product!!!

For sure this: "You can buy the CycloWiz v2 from Divineo.cn / Divineo.com / Germany / Italy and Spain." is a suggestion that give many responsability to maxconsole about the sell of CYCLOWIZ...

BYE BYE
OSCAR

[EpochCT]

Not to undermine your credibility, but you will get bashed and not be taken seriously simply because you are an official retailer of the WiiKey. But you are right, all that remains is waiting until "next week" and see the results one way or the other.

[jse08]

tbh they didnt show anything

they showed a gui

how do you even know a cyclowiz is installed in that wii ?

[jse08]

edit
double post sorry

[whackawookie]

tbh they didnt show anything

they showed a gui

how do you even know a cyclowiz is installed in that wii ?

riiight. Well its my wii and everyone thats been in these forums knows that I got a cyclowiz. Again I dont care if you believe or not but it will be released in a few days thats a guarantee

[AceMilo]

Wow, now they are attacking wookie's credibility. Can't people just accept the fact that cyclops didn't lie and the chip is fully upgradeable?

[foobar2k]

Welcome to the Mod Chip Fanboy era.

[darkmc667]

How do we know its whackawookie and not a team cyclops hacker?
</sarcasm>

[Friks]

whackawookie , does it fix DRE issues ? Rayman and other known games with problems work ?

I Never doubt TeamCyclops .. and well it seems i was right ^^.

:D :D

[psp11]

I am not badmouthing the chip or anything and not saying it isn't upgradeable, but this video shows no proof. I could just be gamecube homebrew that looked like it was updating the chip, but in reality did nothing.

[xllzerollx]

I am not badmouthing the chip or anything and not saying it isn't upgradeable, but this video shows no proof. I could just be gamecube homebrew that looked like it was updating the chip, but in reality did nothing.
i think think the same, what is this the 4rth week?
great support, expect much in the future

[jaxxster]

Well they've lied again, theyd said they'd keep us updated daily and no daily update today!

[xllzerollx]

Well they've lied again, theyd said they'd keep us updated daily and no daily update today!
hahah like i say, great support

[LilaQ]

Well they've lied again, theyd said they'd keep us updated daily and no daily update today!

Same thing I just wanted to post...

[EspeN]

Stop whining!!

To be honest I stopped support cyclowiz for my customers BECAUSE i thought there would be NO UPDATE at all!!

The update is comming, so stop complaining! Jeeeesus.

Now i will prob start support cyclo again after i sold out this batch with wiikey.

[foobar2k]

Stop whining!!

To be honest I stopped support cyclowiz for my customers BECAUSE i thought there would be NO UPDATE at all!!

The update is comming, so stop complaining! Jeeeesus.

Now i will prob start support cyclo again after i sold out this batch with wiikey.

Same thing I just wanted to post...

[AceMilo]

I am not badmouthing the chip or anything and not saying it isn't upgradeable, but this video shows no proof. I could just be gamecube homebrew that looked like it was updating the chip, but in reality did nothing.

Jesus christ, can't you accept the fact that its upgradeable??? Wookie has no reason to lie, he told me before he posted the video that it was coming, he has NO REASON to lie. They even told him to release the update if they didn't by the end of the week. Now give me a fucking break and stfu.

[segaton]

email me the upgrade file. I'll be a guinea pig :D

[zorlac]

I hope there is an upgrade, but to be honest, as someone who has been modding consoles for a very long time, something here is not right.

They say there is an alpha release out in the scene being tested?
Put your hand up if you have seen a leak of this on a newsgroup, a torrent site, P2P etc? I haven't, now that is odd. Everything gets leaked, usually within hours of release. Believe me if you can get a full retail copy of vista weeks before release they have little chance in keeping a CW update under wraps......

I'm not bashing CW, If they don't come through I'll just hold off until the "best chip" war is settled and replace my CW with whatever that may be. But as a great man once said "Strange things are afoot, at the circle K".........

[EpochCT]

What "best chip" war? It makes it sound as if they were comparable. Take a look at the modchips out right now, at this very moment, and you will see there's no contest. How can there be a war if all the promised and late update does is catch up to the competition, and it isn't even out yet to boot. It really boggles the mind that the CycloWiz still sells.

[whackawookie]

I hope there is an upgrade, but to be honest, as someone who has been modding consoles for a very long time, something here is not right.

They say there is an alpha release out in the scene being tested?
Put your hand up if you have seen a leak of this on a newsgroup, a torrent site, P2P etc? I haven't, now that is odd. Everything gets leaked, usually within hours of release. Believe me if you can get a full retail copy of vista weeks before release they have little chance in keeping a CW update under wraps......

I'm not bashing CW, If they don't come through I'll just hold off until the "best chip" war is settled and replace my CW with whatever that may be. But as a great man once said "Strange things are afoot, at the circle K".........

well people who leak things are @$$holes. I was trusted with this file for testing and proving purposes and I won't break that trust. I will release the file when the deadline hits as told to by the devs but until then the file is staying right where it is

[OriginalXOR]

well people who leak things are @$$holes. I was trusted with this file for testing and proving purposes and I won't break that trust. I will release the file when the deadline hits as told to by the devs but until then the file is staying right where it is

I concur, when in past experiences leaks have been evident people have gone into a serious rage due to odd things happenening after using leaked test builds, these test builds are exactly what they say FOR TESTING. Sometimes a bit of unfinished or WIP is used, and everybody complains due to something not quite working as expected. Or even having a bad install in the first place, yet still blaming the chip/developer for thier inadiquacy for fundumentally a simple install job - take a look at these forums, these people are everywhere - I've broken this, busted that, burnt a hole through some components, used a 400w soldering iron, what-have-you. These testers are trying to conduct tests for most of these scenarios, only a matter of time before a release comes along - well that is unless something bad is found, and then you should be thanking these guys for finding issues so they dont happen to YOU.

Finally it appears that we have a mod team where the 'trusted alpha testers' can actually be trusted not to send code out on IRC or suchlike - to be honest a applaud these testers for standing fast and NOT leaking the code.

[Mrgrinder]

There whont be an update on sunday, dont you understand that cyclowiz whants the alphaupdate to be released instead. Couse this way they cant be held responsible for all bricked chips, couse its an alphaupdate and realy not supposed to be out in the public! And all they have to say is "we didnt release this to the public, it leaked from our testers"

And this is funny!

Well keep you updated daily until it's released. We hope this clarifies the situation.

2 days and nothing on there website! Whats up with that?

[whackawookie]

They will keep you upated when theres something to report. They aren't going to blog a day where nothing happened. Relax they are doing there best and again one way or another an update will be out.

[whackawookie]

people wanted an update from them so heres an update

http://www.teamcyclops.com/news.html

We were asked if the chip disable wire going to the Reset button is needed to upgrade. No, it's not needed! Some people are also wondering what kind of tests we are performing. Here is a picture of a part of our testbench. It's a time consuming task, we're making sure everything runs smoothly on a lot of different drives, consoles and chips so that everything will fine on each and every user setup. It also helps us find bugs, a couple were already fixed since last post :) Stay tuned...

[EpochCT]

Yeah, too bad it's not the update.

[mehoo]

So if this is not released in 7 days from now, whackawookie is allowed to release the version he has? Thats EXACTLY what they are sayin.

ill chime in a tad late here...

yes tahts what they are saying but given the ONE SIDED nature of MC that i've seen in my very short time here, do you really think he would do that to them? you'd have to be a retard not to see the connection between cyclops and MC so i hardly see that happening. and MC, you can claim the opposite all you want but im not blind and either you really hate all other modchips, or you are somehow linked with cyclops. i've seen news posts that say they are going to release.... then that they are in alpha.... and now that they are in the test phase.. how is that news? is it out? no... when its released THEN its news. this site's news casting is more biased than the war-loving USA press and thats hard to top. [yes im american]

and if they miss this date again.. someone nail that fuckers mouth shut for shooting it off every other week with new "dates" because hes starting to piss me off.

[high-as-a-kite]

ill chime in a tad late here...

yes tahts what they are saying but given the ONE SIDED nature of MC that i've seen in my very short time here, do you really think he would do that to them? you'd have to be a retard not to see the connection between cyclops and MC so i hardly see that happening. and MC, you can claim the opposite all you want but im not blind and either you really hate all other modchips, or you are somehow linked with cyclops. i've seen news posts that say they are going to release.... then that they are in alpha.... and now that they are in the test phase.. how is that news? is it out? no... when its released THEN its news. this site's news casting is more biased than the war-loving USA press and thats hard to top. [yes im american]

and if they miss this date again.. someone nail that fuckers mouth shut for shooting it off every other week with new "dates" because hes starting to piss me off.

wow... chill out... it's not like they sold you a chip that did nothing and then said they would release the program that makes it work and then kept delaying... it's an update, so have some patience

also, how is releasing news for cyclowiz all the time constitute hating the other chips? it means they like the cyclowiz... big deal.

[nowaymon]

Instead of people simply complaining for another week when there is a higher certainty of some form of an update being released (at least compared to the last couple of weeks), perhaps folks can spend their time instead setting up a process to document upgrade successes / failures instead?

In my opinion it make more sense to release the upgrade earlier on Sunday (assuming TeamCyclops doesn't release it....) to one (or two) people in the general public that have each Wii region / DVD firmware / Cyclowiz version set before releasing it to everyone. After about an hour everyone should be able to report back to state that it worked on their particular setup. At least that way someone can update the download page prior to releasing the upgrade warning people that the upgrade may/may not work for their particular setup.

I know TeamCyclops said they are testing the upgrade on different setups, but we can't rely on their work if they don't authorize the update as a final working update. I also don't think it's a smart idea to release an early build upgrade on the general public if there is a chance there are bugs in it. At least using the method above, if there are any problems they will only impact a few folks.

Do the alpha testers have a site that already works through a similar type of documentation of sucesses/failures? Any other thoughts?

[mehoo]

wow... chill out... it's not like they sold you a chip that did nothing and then said they would release the program that makes it work and then kept delaying... it's an update, so have some patience

also, how is releasing news for cyclowiz all the time constitute hating the other chips? it means they like the cyclowiz... big deal.

blah blah.. still no update and i still cant play some of the only games i wanted to play due to lag. seems unusable for me at least.

my point is they keep missing deadlines.. not our deadlines.. theirs. thats real poor in my book. delays or not its getting old hearing that its "going to be coming out" soon...

and if you want to be blind and not see the one sidedness of this site then thats your deal. yeah i could understand why they like the cyclowiz so much more i mean.. it does so much more than the others right? nah it has nothing to do with the connection to the developers at all.

[high-as-a-kite]

blah blah.. still no update and i still cant play some of the only games i wanted to play due to lag. seems unusable for me at least.

my point is they keep missing deadlines.. not our deadlines.. theirs. thats real poor in my book. delays or not its getting old hearing that its "going to be coming out" soon...

and if you want to be blind and not see the one sidedness of this site then thats your deal. yeah i could understand why they like the cyclowiz so much more i mean.. it does so much more than the others right? nah it has nothing to do with the connection to the developers at all.

do you watch tv and get mad at shows for advertising coke when you like pepsi better? if you are so smart that you realize that mc favors cyclowiz and you happen to disagree... don't buy one. done.

[whackawookie]

blah blah.. still no update and i still cant play some of the only games i wanted to play due to lag. seems unusable for me at least.

my point is they keep missing deadlines.. not our deadlines.. theirs. thats real poor in my book. delays or not its getting old hearing that its "going to be coming out" soon...

and if you want to be blind and not see the one sidedness of this site then thats your deal. yeah i could understand why they like the cyclowiz so much more i mean.. it does so much more than the others right? nah it has nothing to do with the connection to the developers at all.

you need to go rewrite your book then. Every post you make your complaining. Take up a hobby because you got some stress issues. NO update yet, well they said if they dont release the update within this week I can release the alpha, my deadline hasn't hit yet and they really didnt give one for theres. They are saying that instead of making people wait for there completed one that might take longer then a week then people will get the choice regardless to atleast upgrade there chip to get better compatibility until then. If you want to use it you are free to but if you choose not to then you can wait. Until then though I wouldnt complain since the week is ending very soon

[zorlac]

well people who leak things are @$$holes. I was trusted with this file for testing and proving purposes and I won't break that trust.

A bit of generalisation going on there. Leaks have played a large part in history, without them we would never have had HL 2 early or indeed access to Paris Hiltons phone book, not to mention any excuse to annoy Bill Gates works for me. Thats ignoring the ramifacations of leaks from the 2nd world war and onwards that have seen governments topple and leaders overthrown.......
The irony of a "moderator" on a forum mainly interested in hacking consoles and games for said consoles, claiming "I am above reproach! I will not let these people use this code!" is not lost on me.......

I will release the file when the deadline hits as told to by the devs but until then the file is staying right where it is

And where would that be exactly? Oz? Narnia? Middle-earth per chance? With Plutus in the 4th circle of hell perhaps?

I do not appreciate moderators on forums acting like children, keep a discussion on point and avoid flaming. Leaks happen and the people who are responsible are not all anuses(the correct term for the plural of @$$hole BTW).

[EspeN]

http://www.maxconsole.net/banners/cyclowiz2.jpg

Found this advert very funny!

[whackawookie]

A bit of generalisation going on there. Leaks have played a large part in history, without them we would never have had HL 2 early or indeed access to Paris Hiltons phone book, not to mention any excuse to annoy Bill Gates works for me. Thats ignoring the ramifacations of leaks from the 2nd world war and onwards that have seen governments topple and leaders overthrown.......
The irony of a "moderator" on a forum mainly interested in hacking consoles and games for said consoles, claiming "I am above reproach! I will not let these people use this code!" is not lost on me.......



And where would that be exactly? Oz? Narnia? Middle-earth per chance? With Plutus in the 4th circle of hell perhaps?

I do not appreciate moderators on forums acting like children, keep a discussion on point and avoid flaming. Leaks happen and the people who are responsible are not all anuses(the correct term for the plural of @$$hole BTW).

look at what we have here somebody thinking there somebody to argue. So because I refuse to break the trust of a developer you rag on me because I have the title mod, kind of idiotic. Coming down on me because I choose to keep the file on my pc you generalize stupid things like middle earth and narnia. Somebody is stuck in dungeons and dragons fantasies. Leaking a file that is in testing stages before the developer feels its appropriate is the risk of dead chips and if you can't appreciate that then tough tittie. I will only release the file at the deadline after numerous flashes from myself and the dev's proving that the only risk of bricking is from the enduser who doesn't follow the onscreen instructions. You don't have to appreciate mods and I still don't see how me commenting about not releasing a file is acting like children but then again I'm talking to somebody who's referencing disney movies. Its people like you that makes me not want to f**ng release proof and whatnot because no matter what I do or say its not good enough and right for ridiculing but whatever

[zorlac]

look at what we have here somebody thinking there somebody to argue. So because I refuse to break the trust of a developer you rag on me because I have the title mod, kind of idiotic. Coming down on me because I choose to keep the file on my pc you generalize stupid things like middle earth and narnia. Somebody is stuck in dungeons and dragons fantasies. Leaking a file that is in testing stages before the developer feels its appropriate is the risk of dead chips and if you can't appreciate that then tough tittie. I will only release the file at the deadline after numerous flashes from myself and the dev's proving that the only risk of bricking is from the enduser who doesn't follow the onscreen instructions. You don't have to appreciate mods and I still don't see how me commenting about not releasing a file is acting like children but then again I'm talking to somebody who's referencing disney movies. Its people like you that makes me not want to f**ng release proof and whatnot because no matter what I do or say its not good enough and right for ridiculing but whatever
Didn't make it to school much did you? I would suggest you look up some of the longer words in my post, else you risk feigning idiocy when you reply. If you are to converse with adults do it in an adult manner please. I would suggest some schooling in basic english and punctuation.
On a brighter note I appear to have hit a nerve......... which is nice.

Narnia was a book many years before it was a disney movie. And it, like your alpha version is fantasy, which is the point you appeared to miss.

Please note anger gets you nowhere, we are having a conversation pertaining to our views on the cyclowiz, you are obviously not interested in our views as you have your own somewhat scewed perspective on things.

My suggestion would be that you "go forth and moderate" rather than arguing. You give us "facts", we then discuss those "facts".

I would suggest you read the wiki on forum mods, may give you some much needed insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

[whackawookie]

I don't understand your logic. Because I have a cyclowiz I have a screwed up perspective? Your taking this whole topic way off course bro and its all because you obviously have some sort of agenda against me. You hit a nerve? no sorry not didn't happen. I'm going on with my day like i did before I even knew you existed.

[foobar2k]

Didn't make it to school much did you? I would suggest you look up some of the longer words in my post, else you risk feigning idiocy when you reply. If you are to converse with adults do it in an adult manner please. I would suggest some schooling in basic english and punctuation.
On a brighter note I appear to have hit a nerve......... which is nice.

Narnia was a book many years before it was a disney movie. And it, like your alpha version is fantasy, which is the point you appeared to miss.

Please note anger gets you nowhere, we are having a conversation pertaining to our views on the cyclowiz, you are obviously not interested in our views as you have your own somewhat scewed perspective on things.

My suggestion would be that you "go forth and moderate" rather than arguing. You give us "facts", we then discuss those "facts".

I would suggest you read the wiki on forum mods, may give you some much needed insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

Ban this troll

[crumpster]

Would you idiots please leave whackawookie alone, he has done nothing but keep the trust of the develeopers. He is a GOOD guy, unlike many people and if he said it you can believe him. Hell, if this came from any other place i would of said fake, but whackawookie is NO fake. I've seem him in the scene for YEARS.

[Q*bert]

Didn't make it to school much did you? I would suggest you look up some of the longer words in my post, else you risk feigning idiocy when you reply. If you are to converse with adults do it in an adult manner please. I would suggest some schooling in basic english and punctuation.
On a brighter note I appear to have hit a nerve......... which is nice.

Narnia was a book many years before it was a disney movie. And it, like your alpha version is fantasy, which is the point you appeared to miss.

Please note anger gets you nowhere, we are having a conversation pertaining to our views on the cyclowiz, you are obviously not interested in our views as you have your own somewhat scewed perspective on things.

My suggestion would be that you "go forth and moderate" rather than arguing. You give us "facts", we then discuss those "facts".

I would suggest you read the wiki on forum mods, may give you some much needed insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

whackawookie,

Please ignore this idiot. After reading his earlier post it occurred to me that the irony of an "adult" on a forum mainly interested in hacking consoles and games for said consoles, claiming "to be an adult" and then using childish, insulting comments is not lost on me....... What a snob.

I'm amazed that you're still willing to offer any information at all when you know anything you say will be twisted and perverted by such morons.

Thanks for tolerating the nonsense from the few so that the rest of us can get an inside view of the testing program.

[whackawookie]

whackawookie,

Please ignore this idiot. After reading his earlier post it occurred to me that the irony of an "adult" on a forum mainly interested in hacking consoles and games for said consoles, claiming "to be an adult" and then using childish, insulting comments is not lost on me....... What a snob.

I'm amazed that you're still willing to offer any information at all when you know anything you say will be twisted and perverted by such morons.

Thanks for tolerating the nonsense from the few so that the rest of us can get an inside view of the testing program.

i'm not sweating it. I get upset then the anger goes away and I move on. I won't let one person ruin others chances eventhough sometimes I blurt stuff out. Tonight I will be testing every game that didn't work since I have time for a change. Any game you can think of that doesn't work on the original cyclowiz whether gamecube or wii or doesn't work on anyother chip either please post or pm to me and I will start a testing thread in anticipation of the release. If I have or can get the game I will test it. I know call of duty 3 is a big one for people so I will even try to do a video montage of all the games running.

[R3PUBLIC0N]

i'm not sweating it. I get upset then the anger goes away and I move on. I won't let one person ruin others chances eventhough sometimes I blurt stuff out. Tonight I will be testing every game that didn't work since I have time for a change. Any game you can think of that doesn't work on the original cyclowiz whether gamecube or wii or doesn't work on anyother chip either please post or pm to me and I will start a testing thread in anticipation of the release. If I have or can get the game I will test it. I know call of duty 3 is a big one for people so I will even try to do a video montage of all the games running.

If I may ask, will you be releasing the latest alpha tomorrow or the one that we saw the video of earlier in the week?

[whackawookie]

If I may ask, will you be releasing the latest alpha tomorrow or the one that we saw the video of earlier in the week?

I'll have an answer for you hopefully later tonight. The moment I get an answer it will be posted

[splattered]

Sweet :)

Thanks for your patience with the trolls on the board Whackawookie :)

[CRUCi]

preach on brotha whackawookie. we anxiously await your word on the update :D

[cravavr3]

OK not sure, as i have not seen posted anywhere.

But what upgrades were in the alpha/beta release. Seeing as this maybe released to public 1st, just wondering if worthwhile or if it was a mock up install with few issues fixed/added ( aka lets test switch and lets test disc speed update - now let check and see if code protected during update).

[ku16610]

i'm not sweating it. I get upset then the anger goes away and I move on. I won't let one person ruin others chances eventhough sometimes I blurt stuff out. Tonight I will be testing every game that didn't work since I have time for a change. Any game you can think of that doesn't work on the original cyclowiz whether gamecube or wii or doesn't work on anyother chip either please post or pm to me and I will start a testing thread in anticipation of the release. If I have or can get the game I will test it. I know call of duty 3 is a big one for people so I will even try to do a video montage of all the games running.


Rogue Squadren 2 (PAL ) [GC], Final Fantasy Crystal ( PAL ) [GC], Trauma Ntsc Patched to (PAL) [WII] if you could :)

[mehoo]

Is it out yet?

Noone answered my earlier questions.. perhaps its because i was complaining.

It happens.

For the past week they have been working on an interface? or more code changes?

who wants an alpha if its not complete? if its just not as pretty of an interface, sure i'll bite.

you guys take this all so seriously its hilarious. im not mad at anyone here, unless you guys work for cyclops... yet you all seem like MAC fanboys.. destined to defend the very company who could care less that you exist.

funny.

regardless, will the release be a forum-specific thing? bittorrent available? etc?

[jaxxster]

release it exclusivley to GBAtemp :P

[whackawookie]

Rogue Squadren 2 (PAL ) [GC], Final Fantasy Crystal ( PAL ) [GC], Trauma Ntsc Patched to (PAL) [WII] if you could :)

I can try rogue squadron and final fantasy but theres no reason to try try trauma center patched to pal since the update you dont need to patch and trauma center ntsc runs perfectly as is :D

[jaxxster]

What time will you be releasing it tomorrow? Unfortunatly it doesnt look like team cyclops will make thier deadline but knowing our luck you'll release it tomorrow and then sunday the 100% one will come out

[ku16610]

I can try rogue squadron and final fantasy but theres no reason to try try trauma center patched to pal since the update you dont need to patch and trauma center ntsc runs perfectly as is :D


Thats great news if trauma now works :)

[hoagie_one]

I'm hoping this update will solve my issues. I recently emailed support and you can read that and their reply.



Is the upcoming Cyclowiz update going to address the issue where the cyclowiz seemingly loses sync and requires the power to be cycled off \on, sometimes several times before it starts working correctly, or is this a separate issue, possibly a bad chip?
Thanks

Mike

--------------

Dear Customer,

Sorry for the late answer.

One customer having the problem you described sent us his Wii, and what we
belived was an installation problem is in fact a problem with some
CycloWiz V1 due to some difference in power circuit on some rare Wii
units. This made the issue very hard for us to reproduce, because of its
rarity we weren't able to find such a problematic Wii by ourselves.

The upgrade will fix the issue. In fact CycloWiz sold in branded bags
don't have this problem at all.

In the meantime there is an easy workaround: Simply turn on your Wii (make
sur the LED was red, not orange) without any disc inserted and with the
upgrade switch enabled. Disable the switch afterwards, then insert the
disc. It should work fine.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience. Should you have any more question
don't hesitate to contact us again.

Best Regards,
Team Cyclops - Tech Support

[ku16610]

wish ppl would learn to just be patient

[EpochCT]

Wish people would learn to just deliver punctually.

[darkmc667]

Didn't make it to school much, did you? I suggest you look up some of the longer words in my post, else you risk feigning idiocy when you reply. Feigning idiocy means faking idiocy. Why would he fake idiocy? Your attempt to insult him has failed. If you are to converse with adults, do it in an adult manner please. I suggest some schooling in basic English and punctuation.
On a brighter note I appear to have hit a nerve......... which is nice.

Narnia was a book many years before it was a disney movie. And it, like your alpha version, is fantasy, which is the point you appeared to miss.

Please note that anger gets you nowhere. We are having a conversation pertaining to our views on the Cyclowiz, and you are obviously not interested in our views as you have your own somewhat scewed up perspective on things. You used the term "screwed" wrong. Furthermore, you stated that this is an adult conversation, yet you used a word that is considered slang and or vulgar. In your previous post, you pointed out the usage of a vulgar word in his post, and yet you contradict yourself by using a vulgar word as well.

My suggestion would be that you "go forth and moderate," rather than arguing. You give us "facts," we then discuss those "facts".

I would suggest you read the wiki on forum mods, may give you some much needed insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

You forget that a moderator is a person as well, and has the right to argue his/her stance. You state that you are having an adult conversation, yet you contradict yourself by childishly attempting to "hit a nerve." You say he is arguing, yet you provoke him. You tell him to get basic English and punctuation lessons, yet you seem to be having trouble with that as well. Your posts don't have any valid points, and you are merely attempting to attack whackawookie, and you are failing terribly.

Just like you are entitled to your opinion, he is entitled to his. He believes that those who break the trust of others are "@$$holes," but that is his opinion.

By the way, this is an online forum, not an English class. As long as his message is understood, his English does not matter. Not everybody speaks perfect English anyway.

[EpochCT]

What is man? Nothing but a miserable pile of secrets!

[jaxxster]

Stop arguing, Tomorrow we at least get the alpha version of this update!

[Tjoho]

Yeah soon we will know, either teamcyclops release an update or whackawookie have to do! or some other betatester. I hope teamcyclops will release ít, or i am afriad they will blame it on the user if they update the cyclowiz and something fucks up

[brpn]

teamcyclops should post something on their website tomorrow even if they post the beta and say use at own risk. something gd

[LenLen]

quick stupid question-

How do you get the Wii led to go red, instead of orange?

The only way I have done this is by unplugging it.

[R3PUBLIC0N]

Well, it's Saturday at least in the eastern time zone. Let's have at that alpha.

[bob1dun]

quick stupid question-

How do you get the Wii led to go red, instead of orange?



Hold the power button down for around 5 seconds!

[coolcepi]

Or turn off Wiconnect24 :D

[LenLen]

Or turn off Wiconnect24 :D

That's what I thought too before turning it off. :eek:

[punisher007]

You do not have to turn off wiiconnect 24, just disable standby internet.

Disabling wiiconnect 24 sux, because you then aren't able to use internet when it's on either.

[whackawookie]

Well, it's Saturday at least in the eastern time zone. Let's have at that alpha.

I talked to teamcyclops and they are almost done with the final. I don't think it would be wise to release the alpha today and have the final released tomorrow (sunday is the deadline I got the date wrong and that is my fault). There is only one day now until the upgrader so just a little bit more patience. sorry about the error guys that was my bad not theres

[jaxxster]

Well why dont they post that on thier website instead of someone informing us through a forum, Wheres the daily updates? If they were really almost finished with it wouldnt that be a big enough annoucement to warrant a news post on thier site?

[whackawookie]

Well why dont they post that on thier website instead of someone informing us through a forum, Wheres the daily updates? If they were really almost finished with it wouldnt that be a big enough annoucement to warrant a news post on thier site?

no because everytime they post it on there website with a date they get chewed out from people. I don't know if they are going to post such news on there site today but I am letting you know whats happening now.

[jaxxster]

So you'll still be releasing the alpha version tomorrow if no offical update comes out?

[whackawookie]

So you'll still be releasing the alpha version tomorrow if no offical update comes out?

Tomorrow is the official deadline. I was told that if they don't have the final done by tomorrow evening then the alpha can go public but they say they don't feel the alpha will need to be released :D

[jaxxster]

Haha thats cool, The update isnt really needed much i just hope the update that makes the drive spin quicker stops my wii from sounding like an old man about to croak when it tries to load a game.

[whackawookie]

Haha thats cool, The update isnt really needed much i just hope the update that makes the drive spin quicker stops my wii from sounding like an old man about to croak when it tries to load a game.

lmao.... well if your drive sounds like that think of this as its digital defibrillator

[solwretep]

I talked to teamcyclops and they are almost done with the final. I don't think it would be wise to release the alpha today and have the final released tomorrow (sunday is the deadline I got the date wrong and that is my fault). There is only one day now until the upgrader so just a little bit more patience. sorry about the error guys that was my bad not theres

That is very nice of you to inform us. I also have some connections and the rumours state a sunday release.

I am on your side!

[whackawookie]

thank you, its nice not to get beat up just for trying to inform people

[R3PUBLIC0N]

Sounds good, one more day won't kill us. Maybe I'll actually get some work done today.

[coolcepi]

Yeah, it wont´kill us at all. We´ve been waiting, what? a month or so? naaah, I guess I could wait a couple of days more IF it is the good stuff.

[oogieboogie]

Thanks for the update, don't mind the wait. Rather have it done right, than have it fast. :D

Some don't understand how hard it can be to get the coding working properly, just look at Mr. Gates and the security fiascos from Micro-world domination-soft...:p

[slipstream00]

Bring on the Cyclowiz update and bring an end to all this crap - lol.

Team Cyclops are getting slated all over the net with regards to missed deadlines, buggy chips, fake updates etc, etc, etc.

If/when this update comes out, they will be propelled from villain to hero.

[adrenalin_uk]

Cool. I've been waiting for some great news from teamcyclops, and after all the reading i've done over the last couple of weeks about it not being even technically possible, I shall be smiling tomorrow when the update (hopefully) arrives. :D

One question though! Will it be provided as an iso image and is it okay to burn on a full size dvd-r? Excuse my ignorance, but I know the update runs in Gamecube mode and as far as i'm aware, aren't there certain issues with running GC stuff on full sized discs or are those issues only with backups? :confused:

[EpochCT]

Why hero? They'd just be playing catch up, and slowly to boot.

[whackawookie]

Cool. I've been waiting for some great news from teamcyclops, and after all the reading i've done over the last couple of weeks about it not being even technically possible, I shall be smiling tomorrow when the update (hopefully) arrives. :D

One question though! Will it be provided as an iso image and is it okay to burn on a full size dvd-r? Excuse my ignorance, but I know the update runs in Gamecube mode and as far as i'm aware, aren't there certain issues with running GC stuff on full sized discs or are those issues only with backups? :confused:

it is an iso you burn to regular sized dvd yes. The issue isn't full size dvd but data beyond the 1.35g mark (around that size).

[corsasri]

well lets all keep our fingers crossed.

[punisher007]

I wonder if Naruto JAP can be played on PAL wii now :)

[RaDuKa]

i hope these guys from team cyclops will release the update tomorrow

its the half of march now and the update should have been on february 28th online

this time is the last possibility for them to keep my hopes up and advise everyone to buy the cyclowiz
if they fail i will get another chip

maybee a wiifree
they released almost 5 updates
which also means that nothing is perfect

i hope they will give it to us tomorrow

[adrenalin_uk]

it is an iso you burn to regular sized dvd yes. The issue isn't full size dvd but data beyond the 1.35g mark (around that size).


:) thanks whackawookie..

i shall look forward to an update release tomorrow:cool:

[LilaQ]

Boy, am I glad I replaced my Cyclo with a WiiKey...

[cravavr3]

If and when a update comes people will complain and new issues will arise and new update required.

Its a not win situation.

Its normal for modchip makers to be off on deadlines, look at team xecuter on xbox......what date have they made and within days...no months.

You must remember the wii DVD hack is new and monitoring/probing code to detect howto implement/make changes for hacks takes time.

Maybe they decided to recode from scratch, maybe issues with one region wii's. Maybe this is something doen on spare time, and coders are not working 24/7 maybe only a few hours a day here and there with spare time.

[Sp3kt3r]

If and when a update comes people will complain and new issues will arise and new update required.


The next update should come faster than this one.. the reason why it took a long time for this one is the GUI programmation. the firmware is already done since couple of days. but not the procedure with all the test.

[RaDuKa]

If and when a update comes people will complain and new issues will arise and new update required.

Its a not win situation.

Its normal for modchip makers to be off on deadlines, look at team xecuter on xbox......what date have they made and within days...no months.

You must remember the wii DVD hack is new and monitoring/probing code to detect howto implement/make changes for hacks takes time.

Maybe they decided to recode from scratch, maybe issues with one region wii's. Maybe this is something doen on spare time, and coders are not working 24/7 maybe only a few hours a day here and there with spare time.

yeah maybe they had a lot of time but my xox runs fine with all games on the m8 bios
for about 3 years now
not every uodate breeds new problems

[crumpster]

I think everyone should settle down and play some God of War 2 (PS2) then tomorrow grab the update and be happy.

[R3PUBLIC0N]

The next update should come faster than this one.. the reason why it took a long time for this one is the GUI programmation. the firmware is already done since couple of days. but not the procedure with all the test.

It is very hard to programmate things

[Reckless]

no because everytime they post it on there website with a date they get chewed out from people. I don't know if they are going to post such news on there site today but I am letting you know whats happening now.

Dont behave like they woulkdnt know that if they send the news to you, you wouldnt post up the news here on MC and the wount get chewed too!!

my comment: best joke ever

[Yokotuna]

whackawookie, does the update version support Naruto or Crayon Shin Chan games?

[Sp3kt3r]

I think everyone should settle down and play some God of War 2 (PS2) then tomorrow grab the update and be happy.

I AGREE ! it's really good!!!!!! :)

[Bizquick]

I just doubt the chip can update cause mass people still have V1 chips and they didnt even post a update to the v2 chip. I mean that tells me that I these guys really dont have them selfs organized. Its sad with the others like FreeWii and OpenWii are doing a better job and their products are free. I'm betting I'll wake up tomorrow and find nothing to download on the site. And if I do I question it will even work. I know WiiKey promised some cool tools as well but at least they posted a simple update to prove them selfs.

[adrenalin_uk]

I just doubt the chip can update cause mass people still have V1 chips and they didnt even post a update to the v2 chip. I mean that tells me that I these guys really dont have them selfs organized. Its sad with the others like FreeWii and OpenWii are doing a better job and their products are free. I'm betting I'll wake up tomorrow and find nothing to download on the site. And if I do I question it will even work. I know WiiKey promised some cool tools as well but at least they posted a simple update to prove them selfs.

I had the same doubts also about the chip being updatable, especially seeing as so many respected modders & programmers said the SX series was nigh on impossible to program without a programmer! But I also have faith in whackawookie's honesty and I think you should too!

As Cyclowiz owners, we haven't REALLY suffered that much of a loss from not getting a quick update have we? Fine, we couldn't play a couple of games and suffered choppy audio & video throughout a few others but we're still in the early stages of mod-chips for the wii.

I do agree that Teamcyclops has shown a bit of non-professionalism in the way that they've handled the whole situation, and probably lost a lot of respect from certain people by constantly missing deadlines. I also believe that if they were to start again from scratch that they would make a better job of it than they have done. Mistakes aren't neccesarily bad though, as long as they are made up for, and everybody learns from them!!

As far as i'm concerned though, i'll be happy once the update appears and I can continue my gaming without any issues!!! :D