I got AR max 1.4b on wii with this trick

[dolqube]

EDIT: yes they put me on the main page (a name ref would have been nice);)

The wii scans AR and rejects it because it thinks its ntsc region.
Thats where all the problems are coming from.

THIS SHOULD WORK WITH ANY VERSION OF AR
AND IMPORTS ALSO

i was playing for a while seeing if i could get a game to reboot into ar
for example in pso when it returns from the web page mode with no avail


but i found a hole in the wii itself.... hehehe

------------------\
Dolqube's disc trick|
------------------TUTORIAL-------------------------

1. put an orig gc game into the wii.
2. hover the remote over the start button.
3. press the eject button.
4. press start at last second. ie. before the button is disabled
5. swap discs really fast .ie get it started before blue light comes on.
6. away we go AR and imports. note: AR not needed for imports

-------------------------------------------------------------------

good luck all. hope they dont patch this. no more updates for me.

[Slowking]

Deosn't work here. When I press play and eject at the same time Wii simply restarts.
German PAL Wii Firmware 2.0E

[dolqube]

sorry i was a bit vague above. not the same time.

1. Press the eject button and leave it as late as possible to press play before the button is disabled.

2. Swap the discs really fast so it can read the barcode before it reboots.



It worked the first time i tryed it for me (obviously a fluke)
but it took me another thirty trys to get it going again.

but i can do it every time now.

but....

ar sometimes is buggy and cant read the memory cards.
took about 3 times before it could.

good luck

let me know how you get on ;)

[drowen0]

I just tried this and it works, can we boot into gcos now?

[drowen0]

You can boot original NTSC GC games this way too

[dolqube]

i already said that. imports are a go. lets hope there is no update for this.
Maby i shouldn't have told anyone.... NOT (this is for all to see lol)

Homebrew wii will soon be a go.
from a wii overflow


Hint to all if you want this.
Dont update ill release that crack soon. hehehe....

EDIT: gcos wont boot backups.

EDIT: currently all firmware up to 2.0E are supported for both the gc trick
and wii homebrew trick


This trick will (un)officially called dolcube's disc trick

dolqube was here.............. <<------------- (all over the wii that is lol)

[syzygy]

sorry i was a bit vague above. not the same time.

1. Press the eject button and leave it as late as possible to press play before the button is disabled.

2. Swap the discs really fast so it can read the barcode before it reboots.



It worked the first time i tryed it for me (obviously a fluke)
but it took me another thirty trys to get it going again.

but i can do it every time now.

but....

ar sometimes is buggy and cant read the memory cards.
took about 3 times before it could.

good luck

let me know how you get on ;)

Ok, I'm in the States here. Just wanted to clarify the instructions...

1. Insert gc title
2. Go to "disc channel"
3. "hover" on start
4. press eject and leave disc sticking out of wii
5. press start before it greys out
6. swap disc

Does this sound right...

[dolqube]

correct.
but you must swap really fast or the wii will reboot

[Paterchon]

Ok i test it on my Wii Europe 2.0E-no update.

My Brother test it too with Update 2.1E and it works too.
Very Thx for The Tip

Bye

[magind]

haha, this is awesome. So, just to clarify for us retards. This only works on PAL machines [so far, all PALs] and so far, can only be used to boot AR, PAL imports and GC originals?

[dolqube]

EDIT: may work on ntsc also

someone should post this on main page lol
its big news

dont you mean us and jap imports.

and to think i was gona pay 30+ for datel sd lancher

EDIT: note it seems to work if you get it recieving the disc before the blue light comes on

[reggiestyles]

i found another hole to play wii backups without a chip or soft mod.
but thats a secret for now.

Sounds like you've got something there. Good work! But more importantly, what the deal with the quote above? If you've actually got something that's working, why not share it? I'm getting real tired of people who like to claim they have some softmod or exploit only to say - "I'll prove it later". I really don't understand what people get out of doing that.

This open-source community is exploding with releases. If you've got something (and are not looking to manufacture/sell it), why not just post your ideas and let the community flush it out?

[GalaxyFraulein]

my friends.

thats AMAZING - its works....

ALSO WORKING WITH:
- Freeloader 1.06 Pal Version (yeah baby)

confired working:
- Resident Evil US Version @ PAL Wii with newest firmware!!!


UPDATE:
well, if this works with GC GAMES ;)
why not with Wii Games...

If someone has a game for another region, give it a try !!!

[puppyonastik]

Sounds like you've got something there. Good work! But more importantly, what the deal with the quote above? If you've actually got something that's working, why not share it? I'm getting real tired of people who like to claim they have some softmod or exploit only to say - "I'll prove it later". I really don't understand what people get out of doing that.

This open-source community is exploding with releases. If you've got something (and are not looking to manufacture/sell it), why not just post your ideas and let the community flush it out?

I agree, please release some details ASAP!

[magind]

my friends.

thats AMAZING - its works....

ALSO WORKING WITH:
- Freeloader 1.06 Pal Version (yeah baby)

confired working:
- Resident Evil US Version @ PAL Wii with newest firmware!!!


UPDATE:
well, if this works with GC GAMES ;)
why not with Wii Games...

If someone has a game for another region, give it a try !!!

We apprecieate your contribution, but please address the question above... dont ignore it.

[dolqube]

[quote]

UPDATE:
well, if this works with GC GAMES
why not with Wii Games...

If someone has a game for another region, give it a try !!!

[quote]

lol thats where the wii hack is.
I can overflow a buffer and load homebrew.

test this with 2 wii games and you will see it crash the wii.
i put in special disc and volia overbuffer. does that adresses it

it needs a mod for now
not for long lol

[dolqube]

I know i should use edit but inaway.

the reason the gc exploit exsists.

the wii checks ar and other region games and detects then as such.
and decides to block them.

this trick basecally gets a pal region game.
and loads. the switch is then done.

the wii still reads the barcode incase of an eject, but it has already been told to boot the disc. which is why is doesn't care about the region... etc

Peace lol

[hugoliva]

I know this will sound retarded, but, what is AR max?

[dolqube]

Action Replay MAX

it doesn't have to be max edition thats just the one i used

[Z80]

Did I miss something, will the Wii not boot the Action Replay disc? I don't have a Wii at the moment, but I hadn't heard anything about it not starting AR, though I remember newer GameCube systems wouldn't boot older ARs.

[hugoliva]

Action Replay MAX

it doesn't have to be max edition thats just the one i used
Thank you!

[syzygy]

Did I miss something, will the Wii not boot the Action Replay disc? I don't have a Wii at the moment, but I hadn't heard anything about it not starting AR, though I remember newer GameCube systems wouldn't boot older ARs.

So far the gist of the thread is that this exploit allows imports and ntsc titles on pal consoles. No one has confirmed anything like this on US consoles.

My apologies for any confusion...I now understand...no backups without a mod (i.e. chip)...sorry....

[b00-b00-man]

yep works great for me took a couple of atempts but plus needed 2 of us one ejecting and one selecting but got there in the end booting ar 1.14b

ive got gcos setup on memcard and use gcos to boot it but it didnt show me the action reply code andbody else see it in code list ?

so what does it check after the swap? does it still check if its a backup ? or just past the reigen check

[temporary_user]

I hadn't heard anything about it not starting AR


The GameCube Action Replay Disk does not boot on PAL Wii consoles using the normal way.


Now, with the help of this little trick, it is possible!

[dolqube]

no thats not what i said.

I said that using the same trick for the wii i can overflow a buffer for code tobe executed.

No backups without mod for now.
but what im saying is that gives you acess to all wii functions ie. dvd drive firmware which can be changed to boot backups.

Homebrew is more important though.

a mod is needed to boot this overflow disc though.
which is why it is still needed for now

[magind]

So far the gist of the thread is that this exploit allows imports and ntsc titles on pal consoles. No one has confirmed anything like this on US consoles. Furthermore, an adapted method of this exploit can allow wii backups without need for a chip. As far as gc backups are concerned, I haven't seen a clear confirmation of that, yet...

Where did the adapted method part thing come from? Please explain further!

[dolqube]

@b00-b00-man: yes it basecally passes a region check.

try a few times because ar loads a bit buggy sometimes.

I have gcos1.x on my memcard using samsons exploit not sd load
and it works fine


The adapted method is not released because i cant control the code it executed. it overflows but to what addresse is the problem.
it might be some time before i get it working fully though.

Is kind of like the tiff exploit for the psp *hint*

[Silversand]

I have a North American Wii... this swap trick has nothing to do with me since my AR boots normally on my Wii... correct?

[magind]

@b00-b00-man: yes it basecally passes a region check.

try a few times because ar loads a bit buggy sometimes.

I have gcos1.x on my memcard using samsons exploit not sd load
and it works fine

What can be accomplished by running gcos? anything useful?

[b00-b00-man]

ok cheers yeah im booting the same samsons boot loader to gcos 1.5 final,

thats what i thought it was just doing bypassing the check would be nice if it went a bit further but its a big start!!!

well done

nothing can be achievied by gcos running but would look great wii running gcos lol if only it was working lol

[dolqube]

@Silversand: you could possably boot pal games ???

try to do it with two differnet games not nesessarily pal
and see if it boots. then we will know its a global thing

@b00-b00-man: it will leave datel with a load of junk. rofl,rofl,rofl :D
ie. no need for wii compat discs.

[dolqube]

YES YES YES YES YES

I made a special disc that works for loading ntsc wii games ie a free loader

It overflows the buffer (sorry all but not homebrew i was mistaken about the full caps of the overflow) it just makes the wii re read the animation over and over. Maby homebrew is possible with a bit more searching.

but i got it too delay for a time of 5 secs and boot a ntsc wii game.

Maby i could process these discs (become the new datel)

doltel
and my product can be Regionwii

lol

[maglat]

It works for me too.
Test on a German Pal Wii:
Swapped with Zelda WW Pal an player Resident Evil 4 NTSC. Both are originals

[dolqube]

another regionwii happy customer. lol



Edit: ill expand on my last post for wii games there is not enough time
to swap unless your superman.

basecally it needs to be swaped and loaded in .1 secs.

the overflow disc (that i now made) gives time to swap the discs.

Edit again:

this swap disc is the origonal disc inserted.
this can only be done with a chip for now.
because i burned it.

when it is told to boot.
it overflows for a couple of seconds.
then i put in a ntsc disc.
and away wii go

[GalaxyFraulein]

@ dolqube

awesome progross :) keep on the good work ;)

But one thing i can't figure out at the moment.
When I'll to do this GameCube trick instead with Wii Discs, this won't work - cause everytime i eject one wii disc, the console itself restarts at once...

could you give more info on how swapping wii discs? or did i missunderstand sth.?

[magind]

Oh, look. What a surprise, I emailed maxconsole 5 minutes after this guy posted the exploit with all the details and credits.

Malloc copies/pastes my email into the news page and doesnt mention the OP OR me...

wow...

[HUYI]

this is completly pointless if you have a freeloader for cube that works on the wii (like i do), i would be intrested if this booted wii games though.

[carloshgdv]

dude, you are a freakin genius, I already got Cyclowiz installed. However the idea of a GCOS style disc is awesome. You definetly should have the right to call the exploit whatever you want. Props to you and hopefully the scene gets started

[dolqube]

@HUYI: were you reading.

it works for wii games now.

[HUYI]

@HUYI: were you reading.

it works for wii games now.

what the hell? how? will this work on burnt games or is this only for import wii orignals? i wouldn't expect this exploit to last long though as nintendo will patch it quickly if word travels about (VC browser hack anyone?) but i just had a thought, could this work on gamecube discs that were unable to boot previously on the wii like the old gamecube action replays? i would like to try and boot my old advanced gameport disc, that curently dosn't work on the wii...

[Paterchon]

Respekt for found this hole.
But 1 Question:

I have the Samson Bootloader too.I installed this with PSO+BBA but my AR says please insert a Memcard in Slot B.
The Original AR Memcard works.

What is the problem?Can you help me?

Bye

[dolqube]

@all: o ya did i mention im coding a gc emulator

www.emutalk.net

i posted a special build of gcube 0.4 there like a year ago. which runs pretty fast for an interpreter.

Im working on a gc emulator called Winphin for about 10 months now.
check it out

[Horrorwood]

another regionwii happy customer. lol



Edit: ill expand on my last post for wii games there is not enough time
to swap unless your superman.

basecally it needs to be swaped and loaded in .1 secs.

the overflow disc (that i now made) gives time to swap the discs.

Edit again:

this swap disc is the origonal disc inserted.
this can only be done with a chip for now.
because i burned it.

when it is told to boot.
it overflows for a couple of seconds.
then i put in a ntsc disc.
and away wii go

You dont have anything.

[webbyhome07]

this is excellent processes...

however you must to remember one thing... the wii is running in cube mode. there might be ála restrictiones

but if can execute the patch code (wiinja hex from C file)
write some simple eject insert application restart the wii home page... then we should be able around this and play whatever we want... im not surprised that GCOS doesnt boot backups fine

wii is a super nintendo gamecube.. the dvd drive has changed its very possible now you can boot homebrew code via AR method...

feel free to start WiiOS right here :) i do some graphic work so if you think we can together would be fun to make somethings

YES YES YES YES YES

I made a special disc that works for loading ntsc wii games ie a free loader

It overflows the buffer (sorry all but not homebrew i was mistaken about the full caps of the overflow) it just makes the wii re read the animation over and over. Maby homebrew is possible with a bit more searching.

but i got it too delay for a time of 5 secs and boot a ntsc wii game.

Maby i could process these discs (become the new datel)

doltel
and my product can be Regionwii

lol

[Phonebone]

this is completly pointless if you have a freeloader for cube that works on the wii (like i do), i would be intrested if this booted wii games though.For me it's a godsend. I only own NTSC cube games (and one PAL game I bought a few weeks ago :D )

I have a Freeloader, but it's version 1.06b, so it won't work on a PAL Wii.

I just tested this with Superman: Shadow Of Apokolips. Works great after a few tries to get the timing down.

If a Wii freeloader disc is released (preferably as a burnable image), I could finally get my Trauma Centre on... Or that might be a game that won't work, as it apparently checks for region in game, seeing that it doesn't work with the NTSC->PAL patch out there.

[magind]

@HUYI: were you reading.

it works for wii games now.

This is is missleading... please answer clearly, CAN YOU BOOT BACKUP WII GAMES W/ YOUR 'SOFTMOD'?

[dolqube]

@Horrorwood: Correction I have everything. rofl

@Phonebone: it would have tobe printed for the dvd drive to accept it without a mod

[magind]

@Horrorwood: Correction I have everything. rofl

@Phonebone: it would have tobe printed for the dvd drive to accept it without a mod

Until you answer my direct question RIGHT ABOVE, YOU HAVE NOTHING.

[dolqube]

sorry no i misread.
no you cant for now

you can boot other region legit games


what im saying is if there is more to the overflow.
and i get raw code running then anything is possible for my wii little friend

[magind]

yes i can but the time gap is not big enought todo it the same way

does that anser it.

I basecally buy some time with an overflow disc

Wait, you can, but you can not?. Translation, this trick will not boot backup wii games.

[dolqube]

no what im saying is that I MAKES IT REGION FREE

ie. legit games


there is not enough time for a normal disc todo this though
which is why a mod is necessary or it needs to be printed like an origonal

[Horrorwood]

@Horrorwood: Correction I have everything. rofl


I can tell from your posts that you do not. Thanks!

[darkmc667]

Does this play GC backups or only imports? This thread is very confusing. :confused:

[dolqube]

NO backups. Just region free. lol

My babble just makes things complicated

[magind]

Yeah, Im not sure if it was the OPrs intention, but this thread is very annoying and missleading. Your trick just tricks the check so PAL gamers can play NTSC GC games... and maybe wii games... sorry, but that's really not a big deal...

[xllzerollx]

Wait, you can, but you can not?. Translation, this trick will not boot backup wii games.
will boot original from other regions, NOT backups

[dolqube]

here is a break down.


the custom wii disc has to be booted as the first disc in the swap.
it delays for a swap.
then any wii disc is inserted and booted

i burned this disc with a dvd burner which is why it needs a mod
if it was a produced by datel or someone then it could be a region free loader

that was the whole idea.
still its big news

[HUYI]

Yeah, Im not sure if it was the OPrs intention, but this thread is very annoying and missleading. Your trick just tricks the check so PAL gamers can play NTSC GC games... and maybe wii games... sorry, but that's really not a big deal...

excatly, although i'm still curious if this exploit lets you boot gamecube discs that didn't work before.

[DaRk_ViVi]

here is a break down.


the custom wii disc has to be booted as the first disc in the swap.
it delays for a swap.
then any wii disc is inserted and booted

i burned this disc with a dvd burner which is why it needs a mod
if it was a produced by datel or someone then it could be a region free loader

that was the whole idea.
still its big news

But is this disc working for EVERY wii imports game? Like Naruto that is not working with the patcher...

[dolqube]

@DaRk_ViVi: dont know

I onlyy have a zelda tp from the USofA


From the way i see it it should because the wii is compat with all regions. it just has a bit of code restricting it


Why Would i lie if the gc trick works huh

[DaRk_ViVi]

@DaRk_ViVi: dont know

I onlyy have a zelda tp from the USofA

And for GC Games? Is it working also for NTSC-J games?

[reggiestyles]

here is a break down.


the custom wii disc has to be booted as the first disc in the swap.
it delays for a swap.
then any wii disc is inserted and booted

i burned this disc with a dvd burner which is why it needs a mod
if it was a produced by datel or someone then it could be a region free loader

that was the whole idea.
still its big news

why not share this code. Maybe someone else can find a way to run it with a mod.....

[magind]

here is a break down.


the custom wii disc has to be booted as the first disc in the swap.
it delays for a swap.
then any wii disc is inserted and booted

i burned this disc with a dvd burner which is why it needs a mod
if it was a produced by datel or someone then it could be a region free loader

that was the whole idea.
still its big news

Im sorry, you had me, but you lost me when you started posting missleading stuff and editing your posts every 5 seconds. I have no life, I can see all :( .

If it were produced by Datel, it would not be free. Why would the make this? Nintendo would never allow it.

Gee, I can come up with all kinds of cool **** that would be AWESOME if nintendo pressed my discs...

[darkmc667]

Im sorry, you had me, but you lost me when you started posting missleading stuff and editing your posts every 5 seconds. I have no life, I can see all :( .

If it were produced by Datel, it would not be free. Why would the make this? Nintendo would never allow it.

Gee, I can come up with all kinds of cool **** that would be AWESOME if nintendo pressed my discs...

Its like Free Loader or the Swap Magic for PS2, the disc has to be made to work on a non modded system. He can't do it so some kind of company or something would have to do it.

[magind]

Its like Free Loader or the Swap Magic for PS2, the disc has to be made to work on a non modded system. He can't do it so some kind of company or something would have to do it.

Ya, I know. I understand what he's saying. Im just amazed at how he goes and posts that instead of addressing the 100 questions about his trick.

[evlspcmk]

friggin genious, its working with the latest pal update in australia, i got AR working and loaded up SD loader so ive got full GC homebrew woot

[magind]

friggin genious, its working with the latest pal update in australia, i got AR working and loaded up SD loader so ive got full GC homebrew woot

Can you please give us some examples of the cooler things we can do now that we have unlocked the awesome capabilities of GC homebrew?

[Tomobobo]

Well, so here's my useless tests.

I have a NTSC-U Wii.

First test, which has already been discussed did not work.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U GC backup. The disc inserts, gets read, then shuts the machine off.

Second test, of course it worked.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U GC original (different games, game 1 was Soul Calibur, game 2 was SSBM), disc inserts, is read, and boots.

Third test, I was just curious.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U Wii original (SSBM -> Wii Sports). Disc inserts, is read, and spins, screen is black.

Don't think that this helps anyone at all, but I just wanted to let people know that surely GC backups DO NOT work.

[roy8846]

Can you please give us some examples of the cooler things we can do now that we have unlocked the awesome capabilities of GC homebrew?

This is very helpful to some people and IS/ISNT a big thing to others , if you dont think its much then say so and stfu with all the bitching

btw unless your a PAL wii owner you would not see much point anyway

[magind]

This is very helpful to some people and IS/ISNT a big thing to others , if you dont think its much then say so and stfu with all the bitching

btw unless your a PAL wii owner you would not see much point anyway

I own a PAL wii. My point is not to critize how helpful this is, my point is to clarify its accomplishments. As others agree, something the OP did not do. You bring nothing to the thread. You stated the obvious then made a stupid assumption. Keep your ignorant mouth shut.

[magind]

Well, so here's my useless tests.

I have a NTSC-U Wii.

First test, which has already been discussed did not work.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U GC backup. The disc inserts, gets read, then shuts the machine off.

Second test, of course it worked.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U GC original (different games, game 1 was Soul Calibur, game 2 was SSBM), disc inserts, is read, and boots.

Third test, I was just curious.

Tried swapping NTSC-U GC original with NTSC-U Wii original (SSBM -> Wii Sports). Disc inserts, is read, and spins, screen is black.

Don't think that this helps anyone at all, but I just wanted to let people know that surely GC backups DO NOT work.

That actually helps out quite a bit! Hard proof this pretty much does nothing for NTSC gamers.

[roy8846]

I own a PAL wii. My point is not to critize how helpful this is, my point is to clarify its accomplishments. As others agree, something the OP did not do. You bring nothing to the thread. You stated the obvious then made a stupid assumption. Keep your ignorant mouth shut.

That part about PAL was to tomobobo so as i said stfu with your moaning

[mrgone]

works on 2.1E, atleast mine

is used as boot disc fzero GX, and the import was japanese soul calibur 2

and it is really not much time to swap

[evlspcmk]

Can you please give us some examples of the cooler things we can do now that we have unlocked the awesome capabilities of GC homebrew?

emulators are all i have tested but im going to test other things now

linux isnt working :(

[Guiru]

Could you share your special iso so we all can do tests on wii imports?

[Notorious9i6]

Im a noob with all of this new nintendo stuff,
what is PAL wii and NTSC?

[shark2003]

EDIT: yes they put me on the main page (a name ref would have been nice);)

The wii scans AR and rejects it because it thinks its ntsc region.
Thats where all the problems are coming from.

THIS SHOULD WORK WITH ANY VERSION OF AR
AND IMPORTS ALSO

i was playing for a while seeing if i could get a game to reboot into ar
for example in pso when it returns from the web page mode with no avail


but i found a hole in the wii itself.... hehehe

------------------\
Dolqube's disc trick|
------------------TUTORIAL-------------------------

1. put an orig gc game into the wii.
2. hover the remote over the start button.
3. press the eject button.
4. press start at last second. ie. before the button is disabled
5. swap discs really fast .ie get it started before blue light comes on.
6. away we go AR and imports. note: AR not needed for imports

-------------------------------------------------------------------

good luck all. hope they dont patch this. no more updates for me.

Here's a trick I posted awhile back for people who have a AR Max Drive Pro.

There is a trick to get this disc to boot,because the Wii wont recognize it. Just pop in your GC action replay disc (version 1.08 for me) and boot and choose any game or freeloader and when prompted.. just swap the AR disc with the Max Drive Pro disc and Voila...:) GCOS works but unfortunatley it doesnt play backups but I read you can still play emulators etc.

Later I tried out the SNES9x emu and was having trouble with that....

[magind]

Here's a trick I posted awhile back for people who have a AR Max Drive Pro.



Later I tried out the SNES9x emu and was having trouble with that....

This man is absolutely right! Not only did the OP kinda misslead us with his results, this idea is old!

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=414173#post414173

Besides, as sharky said, the best part snes isnt working even...

[LordX]

how about backup games in same way ? :rolleyes:

[Gherudos]

dolqube please stop all the bullsh1t,you have no idea of coding,you just found a trick by accident(some people really doubt that you found the trick,i dont give a sh1t though about it).Just stop giving people hope of wii homebrew,there is no way this could lead us to wii homebrew,also you dont have a "Regionwii" because you lack the knowledge of coding(comparring the psp tiff exploit with this prove this).Yes you can be proud of what you found but thats all,you should stop there,why ruin your name and then all make fun of you because of all that lies you spread and the editing of your posts.
Its lame and misleading.

[shark2003]

This man is absolutely right! Not only did the OP kinda misslead us with his results, this idea is old!

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=414173#post414173

Besides, as sharky said, the best part snes isnt working even...

I am kind of confused about this thread myself,but this works if you are trying to boot the AR Max Drive Pro disc and I am not really sure why the Wii would never reconogize it in the first place because it is for US GC.
I have had the AR 1.08 and Max Drive Pro for at least 3 Years if not more...I was into the GC scene a few years ago and read alot...I mean alot of posts and fooled with my cube (for about 2 years at least) and learned alot of the tricks but I am not a programmer or anyhting like that...fortunatley had alot of time to mess with it...

[cubenoob]

@all: o ya did i mention im coding a gc emulator

www.emutalk.net

i posted a special build of gcube 0.4 there like a year ago. which runs pretty fast for an interpreter.

Im working on a gc emulator called Winphin for about 10 months now.
check it out
Really how´s it going with your gc emu? FPS? Going to realease it soon? Yes I know dev normally dont like these questions. :D BTW you know the other emu which is soon to be released the Gekko http://www.gekko-emu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42 is yours like this or better?

[evlspcmk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcjWGF2l09A

okits on youtube now
and also i got LINUX working and able to play AVI and MP3s through the SD card so itsa great.
yep heres a vid made by me booting AR on a pal Wii and getting into SDloader and running GC homebrew.. enjoy

[shark2003]

One major thing I just realized that is stopping any kind of Soft Mod Wii Game backup exploit via the Wii Cube is that once you are in GC mode..there is no turning back until you reboot the system i.e. cant bring back the wii menu screen....hmm...you can actually hear the system rebooting itself into the GC mode once a GC game is selected.Also, I think in order to play GC backups...someone will have to re code/modify GCOS to talk to the DVD drive again because appearantly its not the same as the GC originally was and even so...I still had to take my GC apart and tweak the laser with a Multimeter and that took a couple of tries.I dont want to take my Wii apart because I paid too much money to just throw it away if it gets screwed up.
I doubt there is any hope in using the GC feature to play Wii backups...who knows ???:rolleyes:

[dantedeckard]

This is pretty cool, I tried Animal Crossing (US NTSC) on my PAL Wii but I got a black screen after the Nintendo logo, tried it after booting Freeloader and now AC works really well, also played Gundam (JPN) which works too. Neat trick, I was bored of not being able to play my GC imports on the Wii.

[shark2003]

I just tried a couple of things...I noticed that if you hold down the reset button in GC mode,it actually pauses the drive and will continue after letting go of it....I guess this is no different then the GC when I had to tape down (actually I think it was a binder clip or something I used on my eject button and lay the disc straight down on the drive when prompted by GCOS (early version)....

[bullet087]

woops wrong post

[bullet087]

EDIT: yes they put me on the main page (a name ref would have been nice);)

The wii scans AR and rejects it because it thinks its ntsc region.
Thats where all the problems are coming from.

THIS SHOULD WORK WITH ANY VERSION OF AR
AND IMPORTS ALSO

i was playing for a while seeing if i could get a game to reboot into ar
for example in pso when it returns from the web page mode with no avail


but i found a hole in the wii itself.... hehehe

------------------\
Dolqube's disc trick|
------------------TUTORIAL-------------------------

1. put an orig gc game into the wii.
2. hover the remote over the start button.
3. press the eject button.
4. press start at last second. ie. before the button is disabled
5. swap discs really fast .ie get it started before blue light comes on.
6. away we go AR and imports. note: AR not needed for imports

-------------------------------------------------------------------

good luck all. hope they dont patch this. no more updates for me.

You know what will be really good?

If someone posted a video on youtube that shows the entire process.

Makes the instructions alot easier.

[mr.slacker]

another regionwii happy customer. lol



Edit: ill expand on my last post for wii games there is not enough time
to swap unless your superman.

basecally it needs to be swaped and loaded in .1 secs.

the overflow disc (that i now made) gives time to swap the discs.

Edit again:

this swap disc is the origonal disc inserted.
this can only be done with a chip for now.
because i burned it.

when it is told to boot.
it overflows for a couple of seconds.
then i put in a ntsc disc.
and away wii go

Okay, I'll be the first to admit I'm a skeptic by nature that has called BS on many legitimate developments, but who can you claim to have burned a swap disc? If I'm understanding right, you're saying this is some sort of a Wii disc you have burned (so you can play import Wii games), but how is this possible? I was under the impression that Wii discs were somehow signed; if you can play this overflow disc, haven't you succeeded in Wii home brew, as you seem to be claiming this is your own program?

And if you truly did manage to create a buffer overflow with the guess and check method you described, you are very very lucky... Just because the Wii crashes doesn't mean you've created a buffer overflow, but you said you've actually inserted your own code, so, I guess good for you...

If this is real, I'll eat my words, and props to you. Otherwise, it would be nice to quit misleading people...

[evlspcmk]

You know what will be really good?

If someone posted a video on youtube that shows the entire process.

Makes the instructions alot easier.

thats what i did, the vids right above you

[DiemetriX]

tnx alot dolqube.

13 of my cube games where NTSC. Good to finally get them playing on my Wii with component cables <3

[Zeckenberger]

Yes, THX a lot dude!
im so happy. Now i can play all my ntsc games on the wii! :)

[odinfire]

Eh... I'd still rather have a modchip so I can just pop games in and play. Who wants to do all this swappin?

[DiemetriX]

I'd rather have a Wii en every single region. But until then this is great.
Swapping is a hassle but I'm buying a chip when I see a chip with about 50% imports working that is upgradeable. .

[shark2003]

I dont understand any of this...all you need is an original AR disc...LOL
You can go to Wal Mart and buy an original AR disc for the "Original Gamecube" and it will work....it would cost about $15.00 probably alot less than that...

[Adrian DX]

I dont understand any of this...all you need is an original AR disc...LOL
You can go to Wal Mart and buy an original AR disc for the "Original Gamecube" and it will work....it would cost about $15.00 probably alot less than that...

Not for (us) europeans. The wii acts just as if you (an american?) insterted a japanese or PAL GC or Wii game. (Disc could not be read). So this is our window.


This method is okay.
I've tested Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3 and Resident Evil Zero (US Disc 1) and Luigis Mansion (JAP). But out of those 3 only 1 worked (Luigi) and that had small black lines covering the whole screen horizontally near the top. But I guess AR's freeloader feature will work (I'm just to lazy to test it out right now)

[evlspcmk]

Not for (us) europeans. The wii acts just as if you (an american?) insterted a japanese or PAL GC or Wii game. (Disc could not be read). So this is our window.


This method is okay.
I've tested Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3 and Resident Evil Zero (US Disc 1) and Luigis Mansion (JAP). But out of those 3 only 1 worked (Luigi) and that had small black lines covering the whole screen horizontally near the top. But I guess AR's freeloader feature will work (I'm just to lazy to test it out right now)



yea the lines suck i havnt tried imports only home brew but you can see on the vid there are black lines horizontaly in the AR menu and **** but hey SD loader works for us now im waiting for emu kid to make that Wii ripper and then ill get a mod chip :D

PS ok i tried to load a coppy of Pikmin 2 from the states but after the swap it just hangs on the black screen but i booted up AR and then i got it working fine with no lines or anything so if you have probs with the games just buy AR or freeloader and she'll be apples

[HUYI]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcjWGF2l09A

okits on youtube now
and also i got LINUX working and able to play AVI and MP3s through the SD card so itsa great.
yep heres a vid made by me booting AR on a pal Wii and getting into SDloader and running GC homebrew.. enjoy

awesome, i will have to try this, it boots action replay yay!

[evlspcmk]

awesome, i will have to try this, it boots action replay yay!

yep its awesome it boots AR im glad now were not disadvantaged from the NTSC Wiis now.

on another note i made a better video of this process with the Wii and monitor in full view just because some one didnt belive it ad wanted them both in pic at all time to prove it, in this vid i boot up linux and play an MP3 and watch an AVI file allthrough the SD card in the cube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYtMDsOZaHk

and yes im aware that the audio is a bit behind in all the videos but hey thats youtube for you ;)

another thing i saw after watching the video is the camera shows the IR lights in the Wiis sensor bar and when in game cube mode they are turned off so i really dont think the wii functions can at all be accesed through the GC mode since not even the sensor lights turn on during it.. just an observation i made

[HUYI]

lmao i want to try it now, so does the pointer have to be on the start button or do you have to click it? i just can't see the pointer because the video is too bright on the TV.

[byteworkz]

Eh... I'd still rather have a modchip so I can just pop games in and play. Who wants to do all this swappin?

No warranty void.
And personally I think softmodding is way more fun and "hackerish" :D

[evlspcmk]

lmao i want to try it now, so does the pointer have to be on the start button or do you have to click it? i just can't see the pointer because the video is too bright on the TV.


yea after i saw the vid i was like damn.. its to bright, but i dont think it has to be over it but since you have to be fast i recomend it, just hit the eject button wait a sec hit the start button then swap... easy as that

[retman]

Can someone answer this -

1: Does this work with Freeloader?
2: If it does then does that mean PAL wii systems can run NTSC games using the freeloader :D

[HUYI]

wow you have to be extremely fast! as soon as i click start i press eject and put the action replay in but the drive doesn't take it quick enough and it just reset back to the health and safety screen, i tried to delay it for a few seconds but that didn't work, and i can't just take out the disc as i will just get a wii and gamecube disc shown on the menu.

i'm going to watch the video again...

[evlspcmk]

Can someone answer this -

1: Does this work with Freeloader?
2: If it does then does that mean PAL wii systems can run NTSC games using the freeloader :D


well using AR i used the freeloader function to play a NTSC coppy of Pikmin 2, i tried getting it to work just by swapping it like i do with AR but it just hung at the blank screen. using AR freeloader it works fine. so i cant see why freeloader wouldnt work.

and @ HUYI lol you press eject 1st then start!
but man practise makes perfect, it took me a few goes just to get it working and in the 1st vid i made it took me 2 goes to get it working but now i can do it every time:D

[HUYI]

well using AR i used the freeloader function to play a NTSC coppy of Pikmin 2, i tried getting it to work just by swapping it like i do with AR but it just hung at the blank screen. using AR freeloader it works fine. so i cant see why freeloader wouldn't work.

and @ HUYI lol you press eject 1st then start!
but man practise makes perfect, it took me a few goes just to get it working and in the 1st vid i made it took me 2 goes to get it working but now i can do it every time:D

ok i will try that, lmao i just discovered something else, you know how the first poster said something about the pal wii not accepting the discs because it thinks they are from the usa? well i had a thought, if the games are according the the wii drive "usa" then it should work with freeloader! well i tried it and it worked.. but not too well, i booted the action replay for gamecube that is compatible with the wii and then booted my advanced gameport CD and it booted fine, but the sound was very stuttery and slooow, i tried the same thing with the old action replay and it loaded at the title screen but when i pressed start it just froze at a black screen :( it might have something dto do with the fact that the CD is pal and it can't display with component? just speculation there, anyways i'm going to try the swap method again and see if i get it this time.

edit: bah it won't read the disc, perhaps it's because the CD is cracked anyway but it reads fine on my old gamecube, i did the switch perfectly, i press eject, quickly clicked start, while disc was ejecting i took it out swapped it with the action replay and the drive took it perfectly this time, i waited, then i still got the health and safety screen!, i'm going to leave it for now and try later on, because if i do this anymore i will probably end up breaking the thing lol.

another edit: and something bizarre happened to my wii... i left it for a minute while i was typing here and when i came back to it i saw a big red screen with all these distorted numbers wtf? i don't know really if it's worth doing this if my wii will be busted by the end of it, i would rather keep playing the disc that don't work on the wii on my old cube instead, i just don't know...

[evlspcmk]

wow that red numbers thing sounds trippy, care to take a pic of it.. i really want to see this

[HUYI]

wow that red numbers thing sounds trippy, care to take a pic of it.. i really want to see this

it's gone now and it was only random, i have no idea how to make it happen again, i might have a look on google for a picture, you never know.

edit: i just quickly made this in photoshop ;) it was something simular to this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/jalaneme/Image1-2.jpg

except that the numbers were white and the lines are supposed to represent the distortion.

[jbondsr]

I can confirm that this works on an American NTSC Wii for booting NTSC Japanese Gamecube games. Did just what the instructions said.

Booted up a US NTSC Game, and as soon as you hit the eject button, press start right after it. Soon as the disc comes out, take it down fast and push in your JPN game.

I used US Harry Potter and the prisoner of azkaban to boot Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4.

I have not yet tried this for JPN Wii games, and I'm probably sure it won't work like has been said before.

[DandareBR]

it's gone now and it was only random, i have no idea how to make it happen again, i might have a look on google for a picture, you never know.

edit: i just quickly made this in photoshop ;) it was something simular to this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/jalaneme/Image1-2.jpg

except that the numbers were white and the lines are supposed to represent the distortion.

Oh My god.. were the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42? ;-)

[HUYI]

Oh My god.. were the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42? ;-)

no, this is just a example, i can't remember much but there was a lot of 00000's 3, 4 and stuff like that, after that i reset the console in panic lol

[jbondsr]

No, I was wrong before.
If you press start too quickly, it won't work. (It's only about a 1.2 second interval, but believe me, it makes a difference.)

What I advise is to get the timing down on when the start button disappears when you press the eject button. Then, once you've got that down, press start right before its about to disappear, and swap the disc.

I don't know if the timing is different for other people, but I had one of my friends try it on his, and it worked.

I can get it to work 8 out of 10 times without trying now, after getting the timing down.

[injection18]

yep its awesome it boots AR im glad now were not disadvantaged from the NTSC Wiis now.

on another note i made a better video of this process with the Wii and monitor in full view just because some one didnt belive it ad wanted them both in pic at all time to prove it, in this vid i boot up linux and play an MP3 and watch an AVI file allthrough the SD card in the cube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYtMDsOZaHk

and yes im aware that the audio is a bit behind in all the videos but hey thats youtube for you ;)

another thing i saw after watching the video is the camera shows the IR lights in the Wiis sensor bar and when in game cube mode they are turned off so i really dont think the wii functions can at all be accesed through the GC mode since not even the sensor lights turn on during it.. just an observation i made

hi, could you explian me how you launch gc-linux from the sd card please ?
are you using mfe from tehskeen ?
I have sdload working on my pal Wii and I'd like to use Media player without burning a disc, is that what you did ?

[retman]

i'm confused, if this trick lets a PAL wii play Wii NTSC games why is everyone try it with GC games? try it with awii game

P.s does this trick require a action replay (for that freeloader) to play wii and GC imports?:confused:

[Gherudos]

Oh My god.. were the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42? ;-)
are you "LOST" or something? ;)

[shark2003]

using AR freeloader it works fine. so i cant see why freeloader wouldnt work.

Thats what I have been saying....it should just work with a regular AR disc that has Freeloader on it.

[magind]

I dont understand any of this...all you need is an original AR disc...LOL
You can go to Wal Mart and buy an original AR disc for the "Original Gamecube" and it will work....it would cost about $15.00 probably alot less than that...


I know, this thing has been hard to follow from the get-go. Yes, you need an original AR disc. This is only good for the GC side of the Wii and will not allow booting of any backups or good stuff. Yes, you can run GCOS and play vids/mp3s and 80% of roms/emu. Still pretty neat for a softmod where do you dont even need to open the damn case. but remember:

THE OP, DID NOTCOME UP WITH THIS. HE IS DYING TO GET CREDIT FOR IT. SHARKY2003 DID MONTHS AGO AND NO ONE CARED.

[STKD]

Doesn't work with AR v1.06 properly. If you have a memory card in with the sdloader code (tested fine in the Cube itself), it will freeze until you put in another AR unit. If you use the standard AR unit and enter the code manually, sdloader attempts to boot but you get a red line along the bottom of the screen right after the usual red one.

And I also got the strange red screen with white numbers. No distortion though.

[nazgull]

Can I use this method to play backed-up GC game (for instance- pirated game)

[HUYI]

Can I use this method to play backed-up GC game (for instance- pirated game)

no, and no for wii games aswell.

[HUYI]

Doesn't work with AR v1.06 properly. If you have a memory card in with the sdloader code (tested fine in the Cube itself), it will freeze until you put in another AR unit. If you use the standard AR unit and enter the code manually, sdloader attempts to boot but you get a red line along the bottom of the screen right after the usual red one.

And I also got the strange red screen with white numbers. No distortion though.

that's the version i have, v1.06, do you think i need to take the AR dongle out first then put it in after i press start? because when i do that with the AR dongle in i just get a black screen.

[Kai_2040]

Oh My god.. were the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42? ;-)

Ah somebody mentions something useful...... ;)
LOST!!
Wednesday here i come :p

[b00-b00-man]

i get the red screen a number of time when booting 1.14 on gc is it just as it starts because thats when i get mine if it happens again i will take pic

[Waninkoko]

One question.
Some NTSC games can be booted with this trick without FreeLoader/AR?

Thanks.

[HUYI]

yay, i just got action replay to work :D but not by this method posted here, i booted action replay compatible with the wii first and then i booted action replay version 1.06 and it loaded fine, the reason why it didn't load before was because i had the advanced gameport in slot 2 *duh* the only disappointment is that gamecube games run super slooooow and glitchy as hell! so they are basically unplayable :mad: :mad:

[retman]

i'm confused, if this trick lets a PAL wii play Wii NTSC games why is everyone try it with GC games? try it with awii game

P.s does this trick require a action replay (for that freeloader) to play wii and GC imports?:confused:

Please someone answer.

[ModderFokker]

doesnt work with wii games.....

[drowen0]

I chipped my wii with chiip today, and I can confirm that you can use this swap method with backups of gc games if you have a chip in.

[ModderFokker]

I chipped my wii with chiip today, and I can confirm that you can use this swap method with backups of gc games if you have a chip in.

Yeah i know but the other guy is talking about wii games not GC :D

[evlspcmk]

hi, could you explian me how you launch gc-linux from the sd card please ?
are you using mfe from tehskeen ?
I have sdload working on my pal Wii and I'd like to use Media player without burning a disc, is that what you did ?

Well the linux DOL is in the SD main root directory and yoe it just boots fine then it takes you into a menu and you hit CD then you scroll down and hit SD and then you can play all crap from your SD card. i dont know what version it is but i can upload it for you

[injection18]

Well the linux DOL is in the SD main root directory and yoe it just boots fine then it takes you into a menu and you hit CD then you scroll down and hit SD and then you can play all crap from your SD card. i dont know what version it is but i can upload it for you

thanx I'd like to try this one, cause I got a version of MFE with which you must have the file "mfe-fs.bz2" on the dvd in the drive for the program ti work properly, so if you want to play files located on your dvd you must put that file on every dvd you burn.

edit: would you have the "mfe-fs.bz2" file to use with that please ?

edit2; found the complete archive here: http://www.elotrolado.net/showthread.php?threadid=475782 and it works great. I an load files from SD with no problem, but too bad you cant load files from DVD...

[msa]

whaaaaaaat?
it does not boot backups?! useless, isnt it...
not even same-region-backups?!

[dantedeckard]

I found that for best results playing imports on a PAL Wii was to use the freeloader disc. I can play both US and Jap games on my PAL Wii after swapping to the Freeloader disc. The games don't always work right if you swap straight to them.

[shark2003]

This is my last post in this thread...dont throw away your money on a new Wii AR disc that Codejunkies advertises... if you dont already have one for the original GC ...you can probably get a used old AR disc for the GC that will also work on the Wii and you can probably get them for almost nothing on the internet....

[EpochCT]

Gee, I can come up with all kinds of cool **** that would be AWESOME if nintendo pressed my discs...
Like what?

[Resident0]

Just used this trick to boot Metroid Prime USA on my PAL Wii, works great!

Love it! Love it!

Only problem is the title screen of Metroid Prime USA doesn't load it just says "Press Start" but other than that, the game works fine?!?

Also does it matter what PAL game you use to boot games with, as Wind Waker USA won't load via the swap trick but all my other USA games do!

[evlspcmk]

Just used this trick to boot Metroid Prime USA on my PAL Wii, works great!

Love it! Love it!

Only problem is the title screen of Metroid Prime USA doesn't load it just says "Press Start" but other than that, the game works fine?!?

Also does it matter what PAL game you use to boot games with, as Wind Waker USA won't load via the swap trick but all my other USA games do!


if your having problems with some games invest in freeloader or Action replay and boot them that way since they work 100% with all games so far.
i tried the swap method with a NTSC version of pikmin 2 and that just didnt load at all just sat on the black screen, but when i loaded up Action Replay and i booted it through freeloader Pikmin 2 works great.

[Tetsuwan]

FYI palgn.com.au nicked this forum post and posted on their news site, with out referencing Maxconsole (because MC covers all aspects of gaming, not just press releases) and only putting the name of the forum poster. The are even getting click backs from other sites for it. Just thought i'd mention it because this kind of double standards do gooder crap pisses me off. They are stealing your info, links and the like because they don't want to post the source. :mad:

[Rodimus]

Quick question and yes I am an idiot, but can AR be used to boot GC backups?

[Tetsuwan]

I just tried it and it worked, however F-Zero Japanese version misses a layer of graphics, so it isn''t really playable. Plus i coudlnt' get wario to work, but maybe my timing was off. Sorry if this was mentioned before, but far too many posts to read through.:)

[mumbojumbo78]

just wanted to add that us muppets party cruise is working fine (started it 5 times in a row without problem) but seems like karaoke revolution does not work. tried 10 times and all i got is a black screen.
strange.
and my old freeloader 1.06b does also not work with the wii.
damn it!

[Adrian DX]

Quick question and yes I am an idiot, but can AR be used to boot GC backups?

No............

[alexc7496]

Hi Guys,

I'm new and just want to clarify this as I have a NTSC version of RE4 on the GC. I have the Freeloader but the Wii doesn't reconise the game and wont load. I have tried what has been listed here but do not seem to have any luck.

Any chance someone could break it down a bit for me?