Wii external Modchip Port and Chip Dongle! With PICTURES!

[German-Guy]

First: Sorry for my bad english, i am from germany ;)

Hi!

Here are some pictures of my external wii chip port. You can connect all released Modchips (Wiibuster, Cyclowiz, Wiinja) incl. in future the Wiikey. The update function of the Cyclowiz with switch and the Sleep-Mode function (with Reset Switch@Wii) works, too.

The Dongle with the Chip (grey Dongle = Cyclowiz, silver Dongle = Wiibuster) have a red Test-LED. Is the LED off, you can disconnect and change the Modchip-Dongle.
Both Modchip works great with the Wii and all games incl. PAL-Version of Rayman, CoD3 and SpongeBob (only with Wiibuster).

You can connect a DIY-cable for: "Wii_DVD_Tool_ISO_Loader_0.2_WinALL-SYNDiCATE" and it WORKS!
Thanks for the brainstorming and help@Phaethon on the wii-toolz.de Forum!


Yes, the Chips are IN the Dongle.

In the grey dongle is the cyclowiz inside.
In the silver dongle is the wiibuster inside.
More dongle with another Modchips (Wiinja, Wiikey) comming soon!

The port with the dongle support all DVD-Drive-Hack Modchips and the Wii DVD_Tool ISO Loader!

The PIN Selection of the D-Sub 9 Port:
PIN:
1 = Chip Pin A
2 = Chip Pin B
3 = Chip Pin C
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V)
5 = G -> Ground
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey

The Cyclo Dongle have a switch for the UPDATE-Mode and both Dongle haves red LED for testet the connection and function!



Here are the pictures (sorry for the wrong date/year at the pictures):
http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBJED.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBJED.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBLPU.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBLPU.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBNFC.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBNFC.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBQY3.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBQY3.html)

http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBR66.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBR66.html)

[foobar2k]

BEST IDEA EVER

This is absolutely great, I wish i'd have done this! Excellent mod.

[riz_ash]

what does this do exactly?

[D-an-W]

Very good work there :D

[darkmc667]

Wait, is the chip inside the dongle or what?

This looks awesome by the way.

[lilskaterpunk]

Srry if this a dumb question as I'm a noob to this modding. Looking at this it seems wicked but what exactly does it do? and help?

[MarkJames]

By the looks of it i would say the port in the wii is connected to all the places the modchips requires wires soldered too, you then solder your modchip to an external dongle and then plug in whichever mod chip you want to use, an excellant idea with all the different and upcoming mod chips.

[foobar2k]

Basically he has put the modchip inside the dongle. This means that the wires on the dvd drive attach to the "serial port" on the wii, so that when the dongle attaches, the mod chip is then attached to the dvd drive.

Absolute genius.

German-guy: can you put pictures up of the inside, showing which wires go where. It would be easy to work it out but to show people how to do it, internal shots are necessary.

[MarkJames]

can you post a wiring diagram please.

[giebdupe]

I have to say, I´m impressed :D
Very good and innovative idea. Thumbs up.

[German-Guy]

Yes, the Chips are IN the Dongle.

In the grey dongle is the cyclowiz inside.
In the silver dongle is the wiibuster inside.
More dongle with another Modchips (Wiinja, Wiikey) comming soon!

The port with the dongle support all DVD-Drive-Hack Modchips and the Wii DVD_Tool ISO Loader!

The PIN Selection of the D-Sub 9 Port:
PIN:
1 = Chip Pin A
2 = Chip Pin B
3 = Chip Pin C
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V)
5 = G -> Ground
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey

The Cyclo Dongle have a switch for the UPDATE-Mode and both Dongle haves red LED for testet the connection and function!

[German-Guy]

By the looks of it i would say the port in the wii is connected to all the places the modchips requires wires soldered too, you then solder your modchip to an external dongle and then plug in whichever mod chip you want to use, an excellant idea with all the different and upcoming mod chips.

Basically he has put the modchip inside the dongle. This means that the wires on the dvd drive attach to the "serial port" on the wii, so that when the dongle attaches, the mod chip is then attached to the dvd drive.

Absolute genius.



Yes, thats it! This is the source of my idea!


German-guy: can you put pictures up of the inside, showing which wires go where. It would be easy to work it out but to show people how to do it, internal shots are necessary

Is i take pictures about in the next days ;)

[RuneEdge]

LMFAO!
So simple yet so effective. You my friend are a genius.

One quick question, how did you get the modchips inside the dongle?

[riz_ash]

do you solder the chips to the dongle or do you slot them or something? :confused:

[German-Guy]

LMFAO!
So simple yet so effective. You my friend are a genius.

One quick question, how did you get the modchips inside the dongle?

The dongle are only a Case for a Serial-Cable. I´m buy some serial-Port Connectors and Cases. The connector and case cost together ~50 Cent...

I´m fix the Modchip one the Case with double-site-tape


Look at this picture (Wiibuster in case without the red test LED):
http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/TBSZU.jpg (http://www.bilder-hosting.de/show/TBSZU.html)

[Hip_N]

Amazing, Simply amazing... I wonder if installers will start doing this instead of soldering the chip inside. AMAZING JOB!

You have to upload a tutorial for noobs like me... please!!

BTW, I need to know... does this mean that you can switch dongles and use different chips? Including the up and coming WiiKey? Also, you can update it just like you would if the chip was soldered inside the Wii?

[RuneEdge]

I'm guessing this also means in the future you could probably update the Wiikey or Cyclowiz without even using the Wii console by plugging the dongle into the PC, right?

[{{909}}]

yes, thats the whole point, basically he has extended the points from the dvd drive where you would solder a chip to a connecter on the outside of the case, from then on any mod that uses the same points can be fitted without the need to re-open the case.

<edit> this wasnt meant for the guy above ^^

[German-Guy]

Amazing, Simply amazing... I wonder if installers will start doing this instead of soldering the chip inside. AMAZING JOB!

You have to upload a tutorial for noobs like me... please!!

BTW, I need to know... does this mean that you can switch dongles and use different chips? Including the up and coming WiiKey? Also, you can update it just like you would if the chip was soldered inside the Wii?

Yes, thats works!

I can´t write a tutorial but my english is very, very, very bad (you read only post :D)

But i´am waiting the wiikey are cheaper. The wonderfull Wiibuster from Germany (a pre-release, i´am a beta tester) works allready great with nearly the some functions!

[xllzerollx]

exelent idea:D
i want one, soo..
can you sell me one?
:)
i want for wiikey
dont worry about your english, if you do a tutorial, theres tons of ppl who would gladly translate

[Hip_N]

Yes, thats works!

I can´t write a tutorial but my english is very, very, very bad (you read only post :D)

But i´am waiting the wiikey are cheaper. The wonderfull Wiibuster from Germany (a pre-release, i´am a beta tester) works allready great with nearly the some functions!


Oh I see. Thanks though, great job on this mod!

yes, thats the whole point, basically he has extended the points from the dvd drive where you would solder a chip to a connecter on the outside of the case, from then on any mod that uses the same points can be fitted without the need to re-open the case.

<edit> this wasnt meant for the guy above ^^

So basically all current modchips including Wiikey and the others will work since they basically use the same points.... right?

But say the new chip made by Team Wiip and Team Xecuter uses different points, you can still make another serial port right? What are the chances of a new chip using completely different points?

[modojojo]

German-guy you should patent and sell your dongles, maybe contact the chip manufactures they may help you get paid. Good ****!!!;)

[xllzerollx]

Oh I see. Thanks though, great job on this mod!



So basically all current modchips including Wiikey and the others will work since they basically use the same points.... right?

But say the new chip made by Team Wiip and Team Xecuter uses different points, you can still make another serial port right? What are the chances of a new chip using completely different points?
as long as theres pins on the conector you can keep conecting cables, so if the modchip uses more than the pin on the seril, well you get the point:)
German-guy you should patent and sell your dongles, maybe contact the chip manufactures they may help you get paid. Good ****!!!;)
patent should be done fast, because someone would probably steal his idea
i would love to buy one.

[Kian82]

I'm guessing this also means in the future you could probably update the Wiikey or Cyclowiz without even using the Wii console by plugging the dongle into the PC, right?

the nice thing about the dongle approach is that it has 9 pins, so that you could connect 9 cables to it. so in fact, all modchips that have up to 9 solderingpoints will be able to be used via a dongle solution...

really great idea i must say...

[Columbo]

Yeah! :D Really... a brilliant idea. :)

[11111]

German-Guy:

when you get the chance please take a few pics of the inside of the wii.
this is pretty amazing. innovation at its finest.

[German-Guy]

No, i don´t patent this. This my "thanks" for all another Mod Idears i find in Forums and use that ;)

when i need more pins i can use an another connector with more Pins... But what the hell i need all Modchips ;) I have 2 chips and that is okay ;)
And i can use with this mod four or more Chips... this is enough!

Oh, in german is 0:51AM. I´am go sleep!
At 8:00AM the academie begins... ;)

GN8 @ll

[supergoose]

so in fact, all modchips that have up to 9 solderingpoints will be able to be used via a dongle solution...
one could just as well use a 15 pin (3 rows instead of 2) connector. same size.

and there's no need for a 'how to' as it's a really simple mod. clever, but in no way hard to do on your own.

[Hip_N]

one could just as well use a 15 pin (3 rows instead of 2) connector. same size.

and there's no need for a 'how to' as it's a really simple mod. clever, but in no way hard to do on your own.

Unless you are a noob like me, or you want to show the installer how you want the mod done (and you have to provide the products needed).

[SteveNZ]

Looks hideous, but it's a good idea :)

[terribly]

Paint them shiny white and you'd be set.

[Gleasonator]

Very clever, German. :) It's the best non-modchip Wii mod I've seen!

But seriously. Please write a tutorial! Even if you write the whole thing in German, we can figure it out. :D

[Gazcoigne]

hat off sir top mod got my vote top mod 2007 yet.

[Kian82]

one could just as well use a 15 pin (3 rows instead of 2) connector. same size.

and there's no need for a 'how to' as it's a really simple mod. clever, but in no way hard to do on your own.

the only painful thing would be however to cut a hole into your wii for the d-sub :(. and in fact it will be th eonly challenge.

btw: i will discuss with the germany guy the tutorial thing. i am also german and we are both a member of the same german modchip board (he doesnt know yet ;) )...

the only tutorial though i think is necessary is for cutting open the wii appropriately...

@gleasonator
in fact, its the only "non-modchip Wii mod" ;)

[{{909}}]

i think we are all getting a little over excited here, its hardly a massive breakthrough or anything, someone did the very same thing with the xbox about 4 years ago and i remember someone fitting 2 mods into a cube at the same time and having a switch on the machine to choose between them.

now if he had routed the connector through the usb port, that would have been more impressive .... ;)

[SpankIt]

Amazing. I'm gonna do this for my chip. Where can we order just the connectors online. Anyone know some Canadian/US Sites that sell the connectors to accomplish this.

[mickcris]

Amazing. I'm gonna do this for my chip. Where can we order just the connectors online. Anyone know some Canadian/US Sites that sell the connectors to accomplish this.
Just go to a computer store (Microcenter, Frys) and they should have the parts.

[Gleasonator]

Oh. O.o Yes. I just came to the realization of how this works. I think that there should be a standard for this mod, though, so people could trade off dongles with no problem.

[Cyclone57]

Amazing, release a guide to do it and it's good as gold. :)

[auyongtc]

German-Guy or anyone here,

Any idea of extending the wires out of the Wii unit and have the socket hanging from the wires at the back of the console? I suppose a lot of us here does not want to cut into their Wii console. Let's discuss some of the ideas here and I'll open up my Wii again to investigate this weekend when I've the time.

[Gleasonator]

It just bothers me that a new Wii is coming out and I wont be able to sell my Wii to GameStop if it's modded. Hmmm... well I do have some friends that might by it. Ah what the hell. :)

[ScaryWii]

good job......

[11111]

It just bothers me that a new Wii is coming out and I wont be able to sell my Wii to GameStop if it's modded. Hmmm... well I do have some friends that might by it. Ah what the hell. :)

lol this isnt a nintendo ds you wont be carrying the system around honestly there is no point to upgrade to a newer system when it's the same unless it's a portable system then i can understand.

ooo a smaller wii with dvd capabilities. let me be 1st in the long line to trade in my old wii for 100 bux. ....GO TO THE BACK YOU LINE CUTTERS, I'M FIRST!!!!!

[soussi]

very nice idea man!! it looks great but it aint something for me cauze i can't solder or fix something like that ... so i guess i will let a store mod my wii with wiikey..

Grzzz

[Hip_N]

Is there any way that this could be done with a USb port instead of a serial port?

[SpankIt]

It can be done with any connection as long as it has more than 5 Pins. USB is only 4.

[halomasta203]

Very nice idea.

[LH1980]

It seems much harder than modding a chip inside. :o

[Sincity]

Very well done. Of course the Germans are great at engineering.

[Biznarie]

Holy ****, thats amazing man what a good idea, i am going to look into doing this for sure, even with 1 modchip easy uninstall or change to fit a new modchip.

[SadSack]

Fantastic!!
He's given us a great idea :) simple. Only little more work(I'm guessing most will install mods) and you can use DVD loader then move on to mods chips later when there fully up and running.

Looks like win win

But there some clever people here can tell me why not.

Great work :)
First post..so be gentle

[billprozac]

I like, but what about running the cables out the bottom (that vent port) and mounting the db9 (or 15) in the base of the wii. Better yet, some third party base. That way, it looks good and is not modding the chassis.

[ejx982]

Now if nintendo could be so kind and include a serial port on stock systems connected to the wii drive...... lol

ejx982

[Z80]

Another thing you could do is cut the traces going to one of the GameCube controller ports, and wire the port pins to the needed modchip points. Then you could have a modchip plug in via the GameCube controller port. You could even sacrifice the 2nd gamecube memory card slot. But if you aren't afriad to cut a whole in the case or you rather not make any cosmetic changes, there are a number of pins to use on the outside.

I mentioned something like this awhile back as modchips just use the same points.

[German-Guy]

Good morning all together ;)
First thanks @all for the great Feedback!
Now to the questions:

Yes, i take more picture at the next days and YES you can with this MOD now use the Win-DVD-Iso-Loader...

If you wan´t to put the cable complete into the Wii this is very hard, but you don´t have enough place for do this -> you must saw or bore a cable-pit into the black plastic neary the vent.

A alternative is you goning out on the Vent port with the cables...
You can connect every Connector of the world (USB, D-Sub, VGA and bigger one: SCSI, IDE, D-Sub 25) but you don´t have enough place into the wii for the cables and on the Wii-Chassis for the Connector.
The online good place to install the Port is the between the vent and the USB Port and you can use a d-sub 9 oder for future a VGA 15 Pin connector.

[Scorpion3]

My God...This is the best thing that has ever happened in the world of modchips, let alone Modding of Consoles.

[loon111]

There must be a way to do this on one of the controller ports,and then use the dongle that comes with the wavebird, if someone could how me the points to solder to, i will try this out this weekend, it saves butchering the wii.Great mod by the way:)

[German-Guy]

Yes, it works with the Controller Ports. No Problem. But i need the Ports for Mario Party, Mario Soccer, Mario Kart and Mario Smash Melee four Player action gaming ;)

[z3on]

am i right in thinking this:

you used a double sided 9 pin connector and drilled a whole on wii for that bit. you then soldered wire to the solder pads where the wii chips are suppose to go?

then you get a dongle, put the wires in the same pin holes and just connect it up?

that make sense? :p

[Kian82]

thats exactly what he did. so actually instead of a quicksolder solution he went for a wire installation ;) (the only difference is that he used some kind of "intermediary", i.e. the d-sub).

[z3on]

thats exactly what he did. so actually instead of a quicksolder solution he went for a wire installation ;) (the only difference is that he used some kind of "intermediary", i.e. the d-sub).

ah.. not that difficult to do then. good idea.

and if nintendo ever put on a firmware update to detect it, you just unplug the dongle (asuming they cant detect you soldered to the double sided connector)

whats the name of the two ports needed to do this? male to male somthing and ?

gonna order two :)

[German-Guy]

Hi!
it´s a male D-Sub 9@the Wii
and a female D-Sub 9@the Dongle

A red LED is on the Dongle to check the Chipstatus.
If the red light on the Chip works (Wii is on or in WiiConnect24-Stand-By). It´s the red liegt off (the Wii is in Stand-By without WiiConnect24 or disconnect from power supply) you can now disconnect or change the dongle.

[MarkJames]

I have to say this is just an awesome idea, to be able to unplug a dongle if i want to go online,update or future chip upgrades, Can you show a good pinout for the led's of the dongles, i assume it would just go inline through pin 4 ?

[fazered]

This is good but I am surprised people are quite so excited. I've seen versions for PS1, Xbox mods in the past and for the average user you never need to remove your modchip unless you are upgrading. Most people don't have two chips or have any need for them. If two chips came out with incompatible benefits so you would want to swap between them for different games then this would be fantastic. It would also be fantastic for testing and development. Hopefully these DVD mods should only be a short-term solution and we'll get a proper bios mod where this could become redundant.

Good work but do think if you really need to do this before you go ahead and cut up your Wii.

[Slowking]

This is really good idea, so I don't see a big use, unless you want to use it with the Linux Drivetool.
If you don't want to drill a hole in your Cube I would suggest a memory-card slot, rather than one of the controllers. This way you have 12 Pins, should you ever need more and most third party memcards are big enough to fit a chip in. You can even get ones from Joytech for 2$ of ebay. (they are crap at saving put this part you'll throw out anyway)

[z3on]

Any chance of some pictures of the solder work done? I'm gonna do this tomorrow ya see and i wanna be certain :)

[supergoose]

i am also german
i am german, too. not much into mod chips myself, but i used to work with arcade stuff such as snk's neo geo mvs and ngh, sammy's atomiswave and capcom's cps2. we used to use db connectors for joyports or av-ports. it's harder to mount them from the inside, because then you really need to be patient with the file or else it will look nasty.

anyway ...
just wanted to add that d-sub connectors are also known as "db" connectors. db9 or db15, for example.
just in case some of you guys have trouble with finding them on radioshack or partsexpress or ...

[gnasher666]

Hi,

I'm going to attempt this tomorrow, it will be my first every solder job. Brave or stupid, I'll let you know.

Before I go ahead I want to make sure I have all the correct tools and wanted to know if anyone knows the best wire to get from maplin and will the standard Dsub9 covers fit a cyclowiz?

Thank you.

[Neglefarot]

could this be done using one of the usb ports?

and a flash usb or one of those sd/mmc key chain card readers (for the size) whit the chip inside?

like this one:

http://www.mercadolibre.com.mx/jm/img?s=MLM&f=13589550_3772.jpg&v=O

http://www.mercadolibre.com.mx/jm/img?s=MLM&f=13589550_2176.jpg&v=O

what do you think?

excellent mod by the way german-guy!

[foobar2k]

Doubtful that would work.

More pins are needed than usb has.

[Neglefarot]

yeah youre rigth, im not too "know-about" in the matter, just and idea. :(

[German-Guy]

on saturday oder sunday i´m shoot and upload some pictures from the wires in the wii...

@gnasher666:
Cyclowiz is very long. From Cyclowiz you need a D-Sub db 9 Case without screws, only with a snap/snatches closing (my grey Dongle).

@Neglefarot: this mod works with all Ports, connectors ans cases. importantly is only the correctly wire transfer and you need at least 5 PINS!

I´am soldering a Cable for the Wii DVD Iso Loader PC Software. Tomorrow i´am test it again!

the reason i build this mod:
- in the PAL Region (Europe) don´t works all PAL Wii Games with the Cyclowiz
- i´am a Beta-Tester of the Wiibuster Chip
- I´am programm in future my Selfmade Chips with a Programmer and test the chips on my Wii -> the next Dongle is a universally Dongle with a Chip Socket for DIY selfmade Chips...

[z3on]

Great ^

Hey, does it matter what pins i put the wires into? as long as they are the same on both the dongle and the connector yes?

[magind]

Really nice work. I really don't see what's all that impressive, though. In a thread a week ago, there was like 12 cats in there saying how they were planning to do the same exact thing the day they got their mod in the mail. It's been done on xbox's to and ps2's also.

Clean work. Keep it up!

[supergoose]

Great ^

Hey, does it matter what pins i put the wires into? as long as they are the same on both the dongle and the connector yes?
no. doesn't matter. just remember to take notes. especially, if you plan to make a 2nd dongle in the future.

[kneehighspy]

i put the cyclowiz in my wii's base, i thought about the dongle, but didn't want to cut my wii's case, and connected it to the wii via homemade connectors. i also have an enable switch with an led to show enable / disable status.

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii1.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii2.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii3.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii4.JPG

[easye1161]

Do you mind posting pics of how you connect that to your Wii? Is there a connection on the bottom or do you route it from elsewhere?

[German-Guy]

Very good and nice work kneehighspy! Respect!

[SupaFly]

Question coming from an outerly noob in respect to modding...
Could this be possible without opening and soldering inside the Wii?

[foobar2k]

Question coming from an outerly noob in respect to modding...
Could this be possible without opening and soldering inside the Wii?

Absolutely no way at all whatsoever!! :)

You need some way to reconnect the dvd drive's serial port, so wires NEED to be added.

[foobar2k]

This is really good idea, so I don't see a big use, unless you want to use it with the Linux Drivetool.
If you don't want to drill a hole in your Cube I would suggest a memory-card slot, rather than one of the controllers. This way you have 12 Pins, should you ever need more and most third party memcards are big enough to fit a chip in. You can even get ones from Joytech for 2$ of ebay. (they are crap at saving put this part you'll throw out anyway)

That is actually a really good idea!

[marmaduke80]

meeeeeeee want it now lol

[pimpfuu]

i love the gc memory card slot idea, especially because there are two, so one could be for a modchip, the other for gc memory, genius im going to attempt this when i get the cash lol

[eprom]

great work german guy, can you upload some photos, i already have the pinouts in the board but if you put photos of your assemblement, that can help much more.
i am waiting for my wii open tool for begin studing this mod to make in memory card instead, this way i do not need to make holes in my wii.

[io09]

hi guys, i'm also a german guy ;)
i had nearly exact the same idea, just had to wait on my 3-wing screwdriver.
also i didn't want to cut the case of my wii. but, see it yourself:

http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00018.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00022.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00026.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00029.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00030.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00031.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00032.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00040.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00041.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00043.JPG
http://www.markusleonhardt.de/bilder/wii/umbau/DSC00044.JPG


at the moment i've got no modchip, but with dvdtool it loads perfectly. but it's "futureproof" with wires for all modchips i was able to find (including wiikey).

ps: sorry for the bad image quality (it's made with my cell phone), sorry for my (maybe) bad english, the cable in the last picture is not the final one.

[Loco001]

damn germans :P

well i am also german i posted pictures of a external install here 2 weeks ago ;)


seems its a typically german engineering idea hehe
Do u think its good idea to use enemal wire?

i used kynar wire (normal wire) ..because its more robust -> i use the usb port to go out of the case...theres some space over the usb port

PS: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=47579

[io09]

i didn't want to go shopping, so i've used what i had here. i know it's a bit risky.
but it works perfect :)
and maybe i'll buy a wiikey when it gets cheaper.

[Whitewiz]

io09.
why are you using resistors in your cable? lol

[Gleasonator]

lol this isnt a nintendo ds you wont be carrying the system around honestly there is no point to upgrade to a newer system when it's the same unless it's a portable system then i can understand.

ooo a smaller wii with dvd capabilities. let me be 1st in the long line to trade in my old wii for 100 bux. ....GO TO THE BACK YOU LINE CUTTERS, I'M FIRST!!!!!

I don't have a DVD player. XD I figure it's a "kill two birds with one stone" thing.

[io09]

@whitewiz
please read carefully and don't just lol around: "the cable in the last picture is not the final one." just for explanation: this what you see in the picture is not what i'm using right now. man, of course i changed it to diods. and if you would have a closer look, you'll see that the soldering makes no sense.

ps: sorry again for my english, i'm only trying to explain what i want to say :rolleyes:

[kneehighspy]

thanks german-guy.

i'll post some more pics of how the wii connects to the base, but its just simply a home made female version of the connector i made for the base.

i know it's not as plug and playable as the dongle mod where as you can just make different mods for different chips (good work german-guy). i may combine the two ideas into something along those lines.

i used to make dongle mods for the ps1 and original xbox using small project boxes that could be painted to match the consoles. if i can find some old ones, i'll post some pics. maybe i'll work on a version for the wii.


Very good and nice work kneehighspy! Respect!

[kneehighspy]

crafty io09,

looks like your camera phone takes better pics than my 6mp canon PowerShot S3IS, of course, could be the photographer too :)



hi guys, i'm also a german guy ;)
i had nearly exact the same idea, just had to wait on my 3-wing screwdriver.
also i didn't want to cut the case of my wii. but, see it yourself:



at the moment i've got no modchip, but with dvdtool it loads perfectly. but it's "futureproof" with wires for all modchips i was able to find (including wiikey).

ps: sorry for the bad image quality (it's made with my cell phone), sorry for my (maybe) bad english, the cable in the last picture is not the final one.

[easye1161]

I looked into using one of the gamecube memory card ports for the dongle, but that would be VERY tough work. The memory card ports are covered in shielding and are soldered very closely to the motherboard.

Instead, I conceded and ended up dissecting an old dreamcast controller and using one of the memory card slots from that. I routed all the wires through the gap above the USB slots and used double sided tape to attach it to the side of the system so that it can be used horizontally or vertically. I then put my cyclowiz in an old aftermarket 2gb memory card. Works perfectly! I would post pics, but believe it or not, no one in the dorms seems to have a digital camera. Thanks for the inspiration german guy.

[KandyKid]

Germanguy,

what type/brand of diodes did you use for the db25 cable?

great job on the mod!

[German-Guy]

Hi!
I use 1N4148 standard diodes.

[Hip_N]

What did you make the whole with?

[imsomebody]

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.e8f8eb436d.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e8f8eb436d.jpg)


http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.9f20f0e319.jpg (http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?9f20f0e319.jpg)

[lilskaterpunk]

Looks good, was thinking of maybe doing the same...

[MaxSteel74]

Do what I did, i connected the wires inside, and ran them out the fan area. I have a female connector hanging out. and a male connector attached to my mod -- It's pretty handy, as I've been playing with them all on a breadboard..lol..

EDIT: hahaha, after reading further, I see io09 did the same thing! good job, I'm only 1/4th german hehe..


German-Guy or anyone here,

Any idea of extending the wires out of the Wii unit and have the socket hanging from the wires at the back of the console? I suppose a lot of us here does not want to cut into their Wii console. Let's discuss some of the ideas here and I'll open up my Wii again to investigate this weekend when I've the time.

[Pacotera]

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[eprom]

i have removed the cover and the black pastic in the gamecube ports and passed the wires in the gaps of the covers, and stay like that i am still waiting for the wiikey so no need to close everything right now, my cable works very nice, i am thinking in making the german guy mode for using chips and cable as i want.

[Zx-81]

hi,
first thx for ue idea !!!
i think this wednesday I ll recieve from Gamefreak my WiiKey ! I plan to put it in a dongle too, caus I dont want to open my Wii.
here is what i read on ur first post :

The PIN Selection of the D-Sub 9 Port:
PIN:
1 = Chip Pin A
2 = Chip Pin B
3 = Chip Pin C
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V)
5 = G -> Ground
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey

and here is what i see in the Wiikey manual :

http://perso.latribu.com/ArcadeFan/Wii/WiiKey.jpg

My questions how should i connect the Wiikey to the Dongle ??
is the Chip Pin A egual to the 1 on the picture ?? and what are the numbers for the ground and voltage ?

hope you ll understand what I mean caus my english is very bad too ;(

[momagic]

hi,
I plan to put it in a dongle too, caus I dont want to open my Wii.
here is what i read on ur first post :


You'll have to open up your Wii to install a dongle.

[German-Guy]

hi,
first thx for ue idea !!!
i think this wednesday I ll recieve from Gamefreak my WiiKey ! I plan to put it in a dongle too, caus I dont want to open my Wii.
here is what i read on ur first post :

The PIN Selection of the D-Sub 9 Port:
PIN:
1 = Chip Pin A
2 = Chip Pin B
3 = Chip Pin C
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V)
5 = G -> Ground
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey

and here is what i see in the Wiikey manual :

http://perso.latribu.com/ArcadeFan/Wii/WiiKey.jpg

My questions how should i connect the Wiikey to the Dongle ??
is the Chip Pin A egual to the 1 on the picture ?? and what are the numbers for the ground and voltage ?

hope you ll understand what I mean caus my english is very bad too ;(

1 = Chip Pin A = Pin6 Wiikey
2 = Chip Pin B = Pin 5 " "
3 = Chip Pin C = Pin 4 " "
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V) = Pin 2 " "
5 = G -> Ground = Pin 1 " "
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey = Pin 3 Wiikey

[Zx-81]

thx German_guy for ur work and for the answer, but why must I open the Wii ??

i missed something ?

[biff]

you have to open it, because you have to solder the wires for the chip on your drive... its not very different as the solution with wires...

in fact there are three methods of getting these chips to work

1. quick solder
2. wires
3. wires with port and dongle

2 and 3 are NOT THAT different as you might see on this ugly little drawing :P

PS: i am from germany *LOL*

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1534/donglehl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[brentbizzle]

This is pretty much the same thing you have to do for the syndicate/wab loader mod. If you're not jumping for joy about cutting or removing anything from your wii there are plenty of little nooks and crannies to stick wires out of to have an unmounted connector. You can bring the wire through the spaces where the gamecube port door cover hinges go. You won't be able to put one of the doors on after that, but its easy to stick it through and doesn't harm your wii.
There are also some spaces around the USB ports in which you can snake wire through (that's where mine is for the loader mod).

[Zx-81]

Thx to u all for ur expert advice !!!!
but then if i had to open the Wii, i ll use the quicksolder solution. ( Schaden )

ps : biff ur drawing is ugly for you but a great help for me !!!

thx thx !

i am from Belgium but near Germany ;p

[Glom]

For those of you asking, if it could be done through an usb port, i say it might be possible..

For the dvd serial port hack you need at the minimum 5 wires(with a microcontroller installed..). 3 for the cn302 port(CLK, in and out signals), 1 wire for supplying your microcontroller with +5v and a wire for common grounding.

The usb port has 4 wires, but it also has (usually) a metal shielding. What im proposing is to use this metal shielding for the common grounding. You would have to make sure that the metal shielding that goes inside the wii is disconnected from the rest of the shielding inside it. Noise could be a problem, but thats what capasitors are for :p

Anyways, bottom line is, it probably could be done if you really needed it done..as with everything else, it just takes time and effort.

Keep in mind, that I still haven't got my hands on a wii.. so i cant say for certain if its doable..but it probably is :p

[Loranga]

I think I will go with soldering wires. But i will make the wires extra long so I can upgrade to a dongle later on.

[biff]

heres is my chiip
i did not want to drill a hole for the port so i decidet to use long wires.

i can hide the chiip and everything so the wii looks very tidied up :)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3457/mychiipav1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[kneehighspy]

that's basically what i did, but i didn't use a viewable external dongle, the mod is in the base to hide it, you have to open the base to change chips, but three screws only, so no big deal and everything is outta site.

i also included a disable switch and status led.



http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii/wii1.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii/wii2.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii/wii3.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/kneehighspy/wii/wii4.JPG

[biff]

oh thats interessting ;) i did not think about the stand as a room for hiding the chiip... could you please make a foto of the innards of your stand and how the chip fits in? do you have the programmer in there too??

and please - a better quality foto if possible :p

[German-Guy]

Very good work!

It´s the same with my Mod! Only a cable is between Programmer and Chiip ;)
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=52199&highlight=2in1
I use a normal Serial Cable between Wii Port and my Dongle :)

[kneehighspy]

i'll take some additional photos for you this evening, i'll try to make them better quality, i know it's not the camera cause i'm using my canon powershot s3 6mp camera, so it's the photographer that sucks :)

i'll post them later tonight.



oh thats interessting ;) i did not think about the stand as a room for hiding the chiip... could you please make a foto of the innards of your stand and how the chip fits in? do you have the programmer in there too??

and please - a better quality foto if possible :p

[CasterBC]

i made the "dongle" like biff.

http://update.boxcracker.us/UserOrdner/caster/wii_pics/07-03-07_1551.jpg

peace

caster

[gr04ts]

here you can find my external MOD (http://85.214.35.15/_techblog/?p=123)

it's like the one of german guy ...

and offcourse, my english is more bad then his, because i am a german guy, too ;-)

[German-Guy]

Hi gr04ts!
The idear with the rubber-ring on the LED is good ;)

Greets to the GF community :D

CU!

[scrotty]

1 = Chip Pin A = Pin6 Wiikey
2 = Chip Pin B = Pin 5 " "
3 = Chip Pin C = Pin 4 " "
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V) = Pin 2 " "
5 = G -> Ground = Pin 1 " "
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey = Pin 3 Wiikey

When you refer to points A, B and C here, are you referencing the Cyclowiz points? If so, shouldn't it be A=4, B=5 and C=6 or am I mis-reading something?

http://mrnick.bpweb.net/images/both.jpg

[LtDan313]

My only question is when are you going to market this idea?

[eelw]

Here's a pic of my external mod port (http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/eelw/IMG_3362.jpg)

[DTaylor2007]

Hi newbie here, just wondered if anyone had any luck in trying this with the WiiKey, i would like to know what pins you connect to a D-Sub 9 Port. Somebody has posted this,

1 = Chip Pin A = Pin6 Wiikey
2 = Chip Pin B = Pin 5 " "
3 = Chip Pin C = Pin 4 " "
4 = V -> Voltage (3,2V) = Pin 2 " "
5 = G -> Ground = Pin 1 " "
6 = X for Cyclo Update function
7 = S for Cyclo Update function
8 = Sleep Mode for Chips (connect to Wii Reset Switch)
9 = Chip Pin D for Wiikey = Pin 3 Wiikey


But it doesnt look right to me? Also which points on the Wii console itself do i connect to the other port.

If anyone can answer then THANKYOU VERY MUCH :D

[DTaylor2007]

Anyone :confused: :confused: :confused:

[reluttr]

actually what I think all you have to do is line up each soder point with the corresponding point on the chip.

Also german guy, can you post a picture of the cyclowiz with its case dissassembled. Im curious what points you used for the switch and the led.

also thanks for the awsome mod German guy. :)

[DTaylor2007]

Thats what i as thinking, wasnt to sure though, tried it this afternoon and it works and looks great :D

[Hammers62]

Hi all, hope someone can help with this problem....I'm new to this so apologies...I tried to solder the WiiKey to the motherboard but as soon as I touched the soldering iron tip onto the PCB contact (for pin 3 of the WiiKey as i hade already completed contacts 1 & 2) it came away from the PCB! I now have nothing to solder to....Boo . I now have a modchip but no way of connecting it. Any ideas please? the Wii still works fine (now that I have put it all back together).

I only want to be able to play NTSC games bought in US on my PAL terminal....

Thanks again..for any help.

[domin8r]

where can i get something to serve as the modchip's dongle?

[domin8r]

actually i might try the memory card idea, but i do't currently have a chip and need to know the size of the wiikey so i know what memory card to buy.
any1 with a wiikey, please tell me the approximate size.
my wii is currently broken , but im getting it repaired soon, so i need some time

[dc_man]

Hi all, hope someone can help with this problem....I'm new to this so apologies...I tried to solder the WiiKey to the motherboard but as soon as I touched the soldering iron tip onto the PCB contact (for pin 3 of the WiiKey as i hade already completed contacts 1 & 2) it came away from the PCB! I now have nothing to solder to....Boo . I now have a modchip but no way of connecting it. Any ideas please? the Wii still works fine (now that I have put it all back together).

I only want to be able to play NTSC games bought in US on my PAL terminal....

Thanks again..for any help.

I'm pretty sure if you removed the solder pad from your motherboard your Wii is now officially useless..can anyone confirm this??

[Pasky13]

Interested in this as well, never done that before myself, but I'm curious if its possible to fix a soldering pad by making a new one some how.

[drsquirrel]

I'm pretty sure if you removed the solder pad from your motherboard your Wii is now officially useless..can anyone confirm this??

:confused:

You can solder direct to the IC instead.

[JimNasium]

I tried to solder the WiiKey to the motherboard but as soon as I touched the soldering iron tip onto the PCB contact (for pin 3 of the WiiKey as i hade already completed contacts 1 & 2) it came away from the PCB!

Using a 200W iron?

[sl2obel2ts]

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[kooger21]

I want to buy an external modchip for my wii, how do i go about this, thanks

[Treatment X]

This done long long time ago. Even before I did.
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=66244

This is my latest client
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/medavid16/IMG_2882copy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/medavid16/IMG_2881copy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/medavid16/IMG_2884copy.jpg

I put in a WiiD into one hood, and a Wiikey into another hood.

You can do this with any of the mod chips.

[wolfeman]

I saw this posted last month on a WiiLi.org site

the guy has several Wii projects including a rom reader... best to check it out. Use babelfish to translate http://babelfish.altavista.com/ :

http://www.kako.com/neta/2007-007/2007-007.html

list other pages:

http://www.kako.com/neta/

[zosh]

I put in a WiiD into one hood, and a Wiikey into another hood.
Excuse me for asking, but where's the point of doing such an extensive surgery to switch modchips, seeing as every mod chip that appeared in the last few months essentially does the same?

[drsquirrel]

Some people like to code their own, like to play with the code, like the option to beable to remove it, or change at their own will.

If you were developing, what would you do? unsolder every time? :D

[zosh]

Some people like to code their own
I'm not talking about devs, of course they need to have an external port. I'm talking about people disfiguring their Wii's backside to exchange, as I quoted, WiiD and Wiikey dongles. I fail to see the point there.

[Treatment X]

I'm not talking about devs, of course they need to have an external port. I'm talking about people disfiguring their Wii's backside to exchange, as I quoted, WiiD and Wiikey dongles. I fail to see the point there.

Oh i don't care what people want to do with their Wii, I don't even have a Wii actually. I just mod people's Wii the way they want it, whatever they want, I just wanna get paid ! lol

[bugmenot12]

This, my friend, is brilliant.
The only thing I would have done differently is to put a female connector on the Wii case and a male dongle to prevent finger shorts.
But you have given me a fab idea - thanks!

[fbskiracer]

I agree that this is a brilliant mod, the question is realistically if I have a D2B chip, am I going to need to change my chip in the future? Is nintendo going to do something that is going to make my cyclowiz V2 worthless?