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slaskhink
02-22-2007, 05:00 PM
Hello, my Wii-drive died for a while ago.
It didn't eject or didn't insert discs anymore.

However, some good guy found a fix to this.
What you are about to do is bridge a little fuse that doesn't work. Probaly killed trough the heat.

You can use a cable, or be desperate like me and just make a big soldering iron click over the whole fuse.
http://www.irri.se/upload/irri/img/DSCN1821_284.jpg
My camera did suck so hard so i couldn't take a picture of my own install, that's the guy that helped me out with this.

I can confirm it working and are now enjoying my backup games once more :)

ASSPOP
02-22-2007, 05:05 PM
wow freaking amazing, this gives hope to the people that this happend to, this works that is great, if this happends to me, im so glad that you posted a fix for it. :D

lilskaterpunk
02-22-2007, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the tip!:D

foobar2k
02-22-2007, 05:10 PM
Thanks for this tons of people on the forums have been asking for this!

That component you are bypassing is a fuse right?

AceMilo
02-22-2007, 05:11 PM
Excellent find if this works for everyone with this problem! If others can confirm this, I will stick it.

slaskhink
02-22-2007, 05:31 PM
Yes, you are bypassing a fuse.

And for my sympton i heard the drive come to life when i started the wii, what a relief i must tell you.

I think it has something to do with the heat that the soldering iron emits kills it.

After that, i installed my CycloWiz again and it works superior now

mickcris
02-22-2007, 05:34 PM
Do you know what the value of the fuse was? You could use something like a pico fuse instead of wire so that you still have protection.

slaskhink
02-22-2007, 05:38 PM
No, but you can see it from this way.

If the fuse goes of: You have to return it to nintendo for a fix
If the whole drive breaks: You have to return it to nintendo for a fix

So why bother ;)

mickcris
02-22-2007, 05:41 PM
No, but you can see it from this way.

If the fuse goes of: You have to return it to nintendo for a fix
If the whole drive breaks: You have to return it to nintendo for a fix

So why bother ;)
you just fixed it yourself without sending it back.
if you upgrade your chip in the future and the same thing happens, you could fry something else instead of the fuse.

M37R01D
02-22-2007, 07:06 PM
people have been doing this for a few days now, nothing new,
but does any1 know the size of that fuse to replace?

Mastershredder
02-22-2007, 07:22 PM
I ended up doing this a lot for people who did a piss poor job soldering in their original playstation modchips and blew the fuse in the corner.

Everyone must keep in the back of their mind that this isn't a permanent fix. A fuse is designed to break if there's a problem. If you're bridging that fuse, and allowing electricity to pass through when the fuse prevented it in the first place, don't be surprised if you have problems in the future.

1/5th of the psx's that i bridged the fuse, died within a month.

Tarv
02-22-2007, 07:28 PM
1/5th of the psx's that i bridged the fuse, died within a month.
fuses blow for a reason. if you bridge a fuse and the problem that caused the fuse to blow is still happening, something else is going to beak down the line.

mickcris
02-22-2007, 07:30 PM
This is what I was suggesting to use instead of a wire:
http://www.littelfuse.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/en/prod_series.html?SeriesID=158&LFSESSION=aVwuq4doKe

Just not sure what the value of the blown fuse is.

Biznarie
02-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Bridging a fuse dosent sound like a real good idea, BUT if the fuse would have blown in a different case it would have stopped working anyways. Since fuses are made so excess current dosent destroy other components you may get a nice burning smell in the future by just bridging it :p

fr3sh
02-22-2007, 10:35 PM
I can confirm this works as that is my picture :p

It saved my Wii that's for sure.

SporkRocker
02-22-2007, 10:46 PM
I'm newbie to modding. I plan to mod my wii when more diverse and better modchips come out.

So how do you solder without setting off a fuse?

M37R01D
02-22-2007, 11:05 PM
well it seems like what causing this little problem is the switch on the cyclowiz :-(

ej76623
02-23-2007, 02:02 AM
Now you can use "Like New" option in ebay!

For Auction! Like New Wii! Used once and decided to get a ds instead. No reserve! starting bid $150... lollers! :D

Xenogears V
02-23-2007, 06:25 AM
A really useful thing, thanks!.

Perkele
02-23-2007, 07:01 AM
I can confirm this works as that is my picture :p
I can see the reason why the fuse blew, that's what you get with quicksolder chips.
I wish the Wiikey stayed with their prototype layout, so you had to use wires to connect the chip to the serial port.

Biznarie
02-23-2007, 08:22 AM
I can see the reason why the fuse blew, that's what you get with quicksolder chips.
I wish the Wiikey stayed with their prototype layout, so you had to use wires to connect the chip to the serial port.

Doing a wire install with a wiikey should no be a problem, I did it with my XenoGC with no problems. All u need to do is get some small wire and solder it to the pads and to the relative points on the DVD drive then tape down the modchip. this way u can place it in a nice spot so its easier to see the LED (if there is one on the wiikey) to see if its working. Also if you do a wire install its easy to uninstall if you decide to install a new chip.

Honestly i wouldnt recommend soldering any modchip directly to your wii because of the long periods of heat you need to get the chip off (if needed) This is probbaly the reason the fuse blew in the above pic.

Odb718
02-23-2007, 09:30 AM
Has this happened to anyone who hasn't done a chip install?
- or a cyclowiz install?

hcrip
02-23-2007, 10:19 AM
The dead drive error (not taking/ejecting discs) happened on one of my installs. After closing the Wii, we played about 4 backups for about an hour. When I went to try out WiiPlay, it wouldn't take the game then. So, it's not an automatic thing to have happen and I didn't even have the switch hooked up. Also, I took that chip out and it's been placed in another Wii for 1 1/2 weeks now without a problem. So, it looks like some of those fuses blow really easily or else the 2nd Wii with this 'problem' chip would have had the same results.

Bothahoe
02-23-2007, 01:01 PM
I have a cube that has a dvd-motor that doesn't spin. Now I'm going to check for dead fuses;)

morelikeyou
02-24-2007, 01:43 PM
wouldn't just removing the component and making a bridge work just as good? also, i would be thinking of cleaning the board. but thats just me :)

great post!

irri
02-26-2007, 12:29 PM
I can also confirm that this will work. :D

AceMilo
02-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Does anyone know what kind of fuse I could use as a replacement to this one? I did an install tonight and this happened so I had to bypass the fuse. Any ideas on what to replace it with?

mickcris
02-28-2007, 12:30 AM
Does anyone know what kind of fuse I could use as a replacement to this one? I did an install tonight and this happened so I had to bypass the fuse. Any ideas on what to replace it with?

you could try one of these:

http://www.littelfuse.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/en/prod_series.html?SeriesID=158&LFSESSION=aVwuq4doKe

You used to be able to get them to send you a free sample. I did it years ago. I just don't know what the value of the blown fuse is.

slaskhink
02-28-2007, 05:11 PM
This really confirms that bypassing the fuse works, doesn't it?

AceMilo
02-28-2007, 08:36 PM
you could try one of these:

http://www.littelfuse.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/en/prod_series.html?SeriesID=158&LFSESSION=aVwuq4doKe

You used to be able to get them to send you a free sample. I did it years ago. I just don't know what the value of the blown fuse is.

Well I don't want to use a fuse of the wrong value. i want to replace the fuse with a proper replacement, so if anyone knows the value, it would be appreciated.

mickcris
02-28-2007, 09:38 PM
Well I don't want to use a fuse of the wrong value. i want to replace the fuse with a proper replacement, so if anyone knows the value, it would be appreciated.
I don't think that there is any way to know without the schematic.

Munkichi
03-02-2007, 02:33 AM
I can confirm this it is working. Bridged and all working. I believe my fuse blew up because of the switch.

So I think something else will blow up as soon I will try to switch into programming to do the dvd update from Cyclowiz.

Can someone confirm this thanks!

ps. Has anyone played more than 3 hours on the wii by bypassing the fuse?

Sincity
03-02-2007, 08:05 PM
How many of these affected the various chipsets (DM2,D2B,DMS)?

jhwong81
03-03-2007, 12:46 PM
i'd like to thank slaskhink for posting this FIX as well as the one that originally came up with it (who ever you are). this has gotten me out of a big jam after a botched cyclowiz install. I think i'm content with playing originals for now.. and now i don't hafta tell my girlfriend i killed the wii she waited 4 hours in line for. Thanks again

jabcoolmanebay
03-05-2007, 09:58 PM
...damnit. I had my cyclowiz working perfect, and I second guessed a connection and it went downhill from there. I've spent 4 hours with this thing.

The wii will turn on, but the drive just doesn't respond to anything. All the solder points are clean, I removed the mod completely.

I want to try this method, but I dont see any images or directions. What do I do to do this bypass?

If all else fails, I'm curious if this will work, anyone know if it will?

I could go buy a new wii from best buy (I'm doing this mod for a friend, I want one myself), put this broken wii in the newly bought box, return it same day and say it doesnt turn on, get a replacement, and walk out with a working wii. Of course, this all depends on if they have an extra wii on hand to replace me with. Any thoughts?

I just feel sick now...

AceMilo
03-05-2007, 10:42 PM
...damnit. I had my cyclowiz working perfect, and I second guessed a connection and it went downhill from there. I've spent 4 hours with this thing.

The wii will turn on, but the drive just doesn't respond to anything. All the solder points are clean, I removed the mod completely.

I want to try this method, but I dont see any images or directions. What do I do to do this bypass?

If all else fails, I'm curious if this will work, anyone know if it will?

I could go buy a new wii from best buy (I'm doing this mod for a friend, I want one myself), put this broken wii in the newly bought box, return it same day and say it doesnt turn on, get a replacement, and walk out with a working wii. Of course, this all depends on if they have an extra wii on hand to replace me with. Any thoughts?

I just feel sick now...

Just check the fuse for continuity with a multimeter, if there is a circuit its good, if not just bridge it.

Kypdurron5
03-05-2007, 11:19 PM
...damnit. I had my cyclowiz working perfect, and I second guessed a connection and it went downhill from there. I've spent 4 hours with this thing.

The wii will turn on, but the drive just doesn't respond to anything. All the solder points are clean, I removed the mod completely.

I want to try this method, but I dont see any images or directions. What do I do to do this bypass?

If all else fails, I'm curious if this will work, anyone know if it will?

I could go buy a new wii from best buy (I'm doing this mod for a friend, I want one myself), put this broken wii in the newly bought box, return it same day and say it doesnt turn on, get a replacement, and walk out with a working wii. Of course, this all depends on if they have an extra wii on hand to replace me with. Any thoughts?

I just feel sick now...
Don't panic. I suggest you don't try doing a switch-a-roo either; when you bought the console did you notice that they scanned it twice? The first was the UPC, and the second was the serial number. If you switch it and try to return it they will have to scan it twice on the way back in, and their computer system will realize the receipt does not match the serial number of the console you're returning.

To do the bypass, just make your console look like the picture at the beginning of this thread; all you're doing is bridging the two sides of the fuse via a wire. It's worth a try- if it works at least you will know what the problem is. As others have said...I wouldn't be comfortable running the system like this all the time, but hopefully someone will eventually figure out what the fuse size/rating is.

jhwong81
03-06-2007, 12:15 AM
...damnit. I had my cyclowiz working perfect, and I second guessed a connection and it went downhill from there. I've spent 4 hours with this thing.

The wii will turn on, but the drive just doesn't respond to anything. All the solder points are clean, I removed the mod completely.

I want to try this method, but I dont see any images or directions. What do I do to do this bypass?

If all else fails, I'm curious if this will work, anyone know if it will?

I could go buy a new wii from best buy (I'm doing this mod for a friend, I want one myself), put this broken wii in the newly bought box, return it same day and say it doesnt turn on, get a replacement, and walk out with a working wii. Of course, this all depends on if they have an extra wii on hand to replace me with. Any thoughts?

I just feel sick now...

This definetly works.... its quite easy to fix... under the dvd drive where you solder the cyclowiz you will find a little um... fuse (not really sure if its a fuse but thats what i'll call it) its labeled with an "N"... it is located right beneath the X Solder point and slightly above the G Solder point. if you turn the drive so that the "N" is facing right side up take a piece of wire and solder the left to the right side and you'll be all set to go. the solder points are very tricky as they are very small but it shouldn't take too long to get it. Don't forget to set a piece of electric tape to keep the wire down. The first time i did it it came off right after i tested it. So that's pretty important.. Good luck reviving your system. I'm sure it'll come back to life.

Happsai
03-06-2007, 10:49 AM
Here's a dumb question. How do you tell if you've blown a fuse? Is there a sound or any indication when it happens whlie modding or is it just purely on how it looks?
I'm not sure if I blew a fuse or not, but physically, they look okay.

Kypdurron5
03-06-2007, 10:58 AM
Here's a dumb question. How do you tell if you've blown a fuse? Is there a sound or any indication when it happens whlie modding or is it just purely on how it looks?
I'm not sure if I blew a fuse or not, but physically, they look okay.
That's a good question....let me add one. What is the consensus opinion on the cause...are we thinking it's the Cyclowiz chip, or faulty soldering? If soldering, is it bridged connections, or excess heat? If excess heat is suspected, what wattage irons are you folks using? [Personally I bought the lowest I could possibly find and it worked perfectly for my PS2 modding.] I realize it's also about duration, but if heat is the problem (esp with new modders) it might be wise to recommend a cooler iron.

jhwong81
03-06-2007, 12:15 PM
Here's a dumb question. How do you tell if you've blown a fuse? Is there a sound or any indication when it happens whlie modding or is it just purely on how it looks?
I'm not sure if I blew a fuse or not, but physically, they look okay.

i believe the only way to tell is to plug it in and if you can't eject or insert discs then you probably got a blown fuse. the system will boot fine but when you go to insert or eject a disc the wii will just do nothing. no sounds no movement nothing. as for the reason, i would say it would be excessive heat due to a faulty solder. i don't know what temp it should be as i almost killed mine and decided not to try again but that would be the most probable scenario

foobar2k
03-06-2007, 12:22 PM
Here's a dumb question. How do you tell if you've blown a fuse? Is there a sound or any indication when it happens whlie modding or is it just purely on how it looks?
I'm not sure if I blew a fuse or not, but physically, they look okay.

Get a multimeter or continuity tester and test the connection over the fuse. If it is blow there will be no connection. Simple.

Basic multimeters cost about £4 ($8).

Happsai
03-06-2007, 12:23 PM
i believe the only way to tell is to plug it in and if you can't eject or insert discs then you probably got a blown fuse. the system will boot fine but when you go to insert or eject a disc the wii will just do nothing. no sounds no movement nothing. as for the reason, i would say it would be excessive heat due to a faulty solder. i don't know what temp it should be as i almost killed mine and decided not to try again but that would be the most probable scenario
But then how do you figure out which fuse has blown if there's no other signs than just the final result?

AceMilo
03-06-2007, 12:39 PM
But then how do you figure out which fuse has blown if there's no other signs than just the final result?

Do like foobar said, just use a multimeter, set it to ohms, set it to beep and put the probes on either side. If it beeps, your fuse is fine, if not, its dead.

Kypdurron5
03-06-2007, 12:58 PM
Just to be clear- are we suggesting that the problem is excess heat POST INSTALL, or heat DURING chip installation? If it's post install then it might be better to use wires and relocate the chip.... I have in fact noticed the Wii generates a decent amount of heat even when in (Wiiconnect24) standby mode.

Happsai
03-06-2007, 07:45 PM
Another question: Is it possible to mess something up such that the drive will make lots of noise on bootup, and will eject discs fine, but won't allow discs to be inserted?

I'm asking because I'm part way done the soldering (still need the chip) of the wires, and I just wanted to see if I bricked the wii yet. Wii sports was already in the drive. It detected it in the menu, but wouldn't load it. It would eject fine, but I couldn't get the disc back in. BUT I didn't do ANY reassembly at all--just put the ribbon and power cables back in. The drive was still tipped over (upside down) without it's topshell or anything put back in place. Would that explain the problems? I know I'm an idiot, but I'm just waiting for something to go wrong since everything seems to be going perfectly so far.:o :o :o

whackawookie
03-06-2007, 08:57 PM
you say you soldered the wires but not the chip? I would have to assume that you are protecting the ends of the wires with electrical tape that way they dont cross or touch a spot in the wii causing a short. Having the wii turned upside down probably wouldn't matter infact I could have sworn some install videos show the wii upside down to test the chip for the video

Happsai
03-06-2007, 11:08 PM
you say you soldered the wires but not the chip? I would have to assume that you are protecting the ends of the wires with electrical tape that way they dont cross or touch a spot in the wii causing a short. Having the wii turned upside down probably wouldn't matter infact I could have sworn some install videos show the wii upside down to test the chip for the video
Actually I made that mistake and the exposed wire ends were touching (scraping) on some metal of the case!
This caused the Wii to not bootup and shut off. Scared the crap out of me when I didn't notice the wires.:eek: :eek:
Moved the wires away and then it was fine.
I think my drive is fine. I think i need to do some more assembly on the drive (the shell with the plastic drive bits is still taken off) before it will accept a disc i push in there.

whackawookie
03-07-2007, 06:28 AM
hope you get it all situated happsai, keep us updated when you get results so if anybody else has future issues like yours we have the answer

Happsai
03-07-2007, 08:37 AM
hope you get it all situated happsai, keep us updated when you get results so if anybody else has future issues like yours we have the answer
Thanks, Wookie, I will. Unfortunately I still need to get my wiikey from consolesource, who keeps pushing the ETA back further and further. Hopefully I'll have it sometime within the decade.:p

Kypdurron5
03-07-2007, 08:48 AM
Just for the record I got my Cyclowiz yesterday and had it installed in under an hour- absolutely no problems so far. I was amazed how small the solder points were; I used to think soldering to IC chip pins was difficult! >)

adgirl
03-07-2007, 09:40 PM
Just to be clear- are we suggesting that the problem is excess heat POST INSTALL, or heat DURING chip installation? If it's post install then it might be better to use wires and relocate the chip.... I have in fact noticed the Wii generates a decent amount of heat even when in (Wiiconnect24) standby mode.

I have another question kind of relating to this. I'm a girl and don't know much about any of this stuff (my boyfriend installed the Cyclowiz on our Wii). So with that in mind, here's my question. Has this blown fuse happened to anyone but Cyclowiz users? I don't see any WiiKey posts here or on other forums that state they have also blown the fuse and have a dead drive. So this leads me to think, is it really the soldering job? Or is it the chip that messed it up? Our Wii's drive worked after the install of the chip. Then it stopped. So the soldering iron wasn't touching anything to blow the fuse. Or can a blown fuse happen well after the soldering iron is touching? I am just so confused and really upset that I even bought that chip.

And also I have read that people don't recommend playing the Wii after you bypass that fuse. Is that only if you reinstall the chip or another chip? Or do you mean entirely? I don't want my Wii to die. Do we think we'll ever get to know the specifics on this fuse?

Thanks to anyone who can provide some insight. :)

*EDITED TO ADD: We did a wire install.

Kypdurron5
03-07-2007, 10:23 PM
Even if it is the chip there's no guarantee that the same thing won't happen with the Wiikey. The reason you don't see all that many Wiikey posts is that the chip just came out- unless I'm mistaken last week was the first week of availability. There will be plenty of problems- the fuse issue may not be one of them, but I can't think of any mod chip for any console that hasn't had its fair share of complaints. There are so many things involved with a modchip install that it's almost impossible to distinguish between hardware failure and user error. Even when people have the same problems it could simply mean that the user error is an easy one to make.

cdndave
03-08-2007, 11:16 AM
I have the a similar problem - but it's intermittent :confused:

After the install (but before reassembly) everything worked great (but lotsa DREs - have a v1 wiinja so i figured par for the course). After reassembly, everything was great for about 1 hour, afterwards it stopped accepting discs.

Next day, I took everything apart, reseated the ribbon cable and checked the wired socket. Everything worked again. Worked flawlessly for many hours. Haven't seen a DRE since.

Next day (about 16 hours later), the Wii started acting up again, while it still accepts discs it sucks them in but all jerky and slow (instead of nice and smooth)

I have left the Wii topless, without the metal shielding.

Any thought or opinions would be appreciated

Dave

Munkichi
03-09-2007, 11:03 PM
I'm not an expert in electronic but this came to my mind. Can we like umm test the voltage running at the bridged fuse and find any fuse that can make sure that it don't go over that voltage. Because I believe the voltage with the bridged fuse is safe at the moment.

Since noone can find the actual fuse value. :( Just a thought...

Kypdurron5
03-10-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm not an expert in electronic but this came to my mind. Can we like umm test the voltage running at the bridged fuse and find any fuse that can make sure that it don't go over that voltage. Because I believe the voltage with the bridged fuse is safe at the moment.

Since noone can find the actual fuse value. :( Just a thought...
It's not just about the voltage but also about the current....but I'm not quite as familiar with real-world testing as I am with college level physics, but I would bet there is some way to test it.

gwendes
03-10-2007, 05:49 AM
Just had this problem after installing a CycloWiz - my error I think but you saved me from explaining where Wii Sports had gone to the gf!

All running fine - this is the best thread I have ever found!

Kypdurron5
03-10-2007, 12:03 PM
Just had this problem after installing a CycloWiz - my error I think but you saved me from explaining where Wii Sports had gone to the gf!

All running fine - this is the best thread I have ever found!
I'm still curious as to the cause of them problem; what makes you think it was your fault, did it work at first then stop working, what wattage is your soldering iron, and how smoothly did the installation go overall? Thanks.

BOUBOU
03-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Hi,

this is my first post :)

I have the the same problem then some people here. I have installed my cyclowiiz, but something burned when i've start the wii. And now, my drive doesnt eject or insert disc anymore.

I've tried the tips above, but all my fuse are at 0.1 ohm... Do you know where it can come from? Do you have any tip or advice?

Thanks alot :D

Kypdurron5
03-10-2007, 11:11 PM
I just finished installing a switch and reset connector. I played Zelda for 2-3 hours and now the system continually resets...the drive still seeks every time it starts up though. I'm thinking maybe the reset wire came loose and is now bridging the reset connection...at least that would explain the random restarting.....alas, time to take it apart AGAIN >(.

Kypdurron5
03-11-2007, 01:55 AM
I just finished installing a switch and reset connector. I played Zelda for 2-3 hours and now the system continually resets...the drive still seeks every time it starts up though. I'm thinking maybe the reset wire came loose and is now bridging the reset connection...at least that would explain the random restarting.....alas, time to take it apart AGAIN >(.
Well, as an update all seems to be well now; I fortified the reset pin connection as well as a switch connection and the restarting problem is gone. Hopefully I won't have to open it again for a long time.

gwendes
03-11-2007, 08:42 AM
I'm still curious as to the cause of them problem; what makes you think it was your fault, did it work at first then stop working, what wattage is your soldering iron, and how smoothly did the installation go overall? Thanks.

I hadn't connected everything back together properly - was just testing and I think I bridged a connection somewhere on the drive as it popped. All working smoothly now - many hours of play later - all thanks to this thread.

The basic install is easy if you can solder, I have a 15 W soldering iron and no problems until I tried to install the reset switch wire :( There is nowhere to connect that baby!

Kypdurron5
03-11-2007, 01:01 PM
I hadn't connected everything back together properly - was just testing and I think I bridged a connection somewhere on the drive as it popped. All working smoothly now - many hours of play later - all thanks to this thread.

The basic install is easy if you can solder, I have a 15 W soldering iron and no problems until I tried to install the reset switch wire :( There is nowhere to connect that baby!
Do you mean you didn't find it or that it's just really small? You have to remove the black plastic "guard" over the front switches- they're three large black screws (watch out for the nut on the right-hand side- it kept falling out on me). The pin is small, and there's not a whole lot of space, but after 2 tries I think I have a good, strong connection now.

gwendes
03-12-2007, 05:22 AM
I found the connection but it was so small. Tested (hands shaking a little bit!) yesterday and the connection seems to be there and I was able to switch on and off the chip with the reset button.

I have played all weekend (over 10 hours on Sunday!) and all fine with the bridged fuse - it's not ideal but it is working so I'm happy. I'd be much more careful and take more time over this if a friend persuades me to do theirs!

Happsai
03-12-2007, 08:02 PM
hope you get it all situated happsai, keep us updated when you get results so if anybody else has future issues like yours we have the answer
Hey Wookie, here's my followup now that I got my wiikey.
The installation went perfectly with the exception of a few shorts because I unknowingly soldered point 1 on the wii to point 2 on the wiikey and vice-verca, and also a bit of confusion for putting the right screws in the right place during reassembly.
My problem with the drive was because I unscrewed the metal piece on top of the drive that has the arms that cradle the disc (completely unnecessary for the install). If this part is not secure when you test, the disc will either not insert, or will get reading errors.

All my tests went flawlessly, but I had to reformat to get the Voting program to work with the right dates again. Oh well.:D

Edit: Also, I used a 5W battery powered soldering iron. Trust me, it's powerful enough, and it allowed an idiot like me to do this install without burning the solder points or setting the wii on fire.

tweak
03-13-2007, 02:07 AM
so... heat from a quick soldered chip kills the fuse?

good info will avoid it for install

slaskhink
03-13-2007, 04:25 AM
Seriously guys.

I have played my Wii every day since i posted my first solution here with a bridged fuse, it is like 2 weeks and it still works like a charm.

There's no extreme need to worry.

zandi
03-13-2007, 10:50 AM
Wow, thanks for this, I did not know what had i done and my drive did not work, and fix it with this method.

inthebox
03-14-2007, 11:58 AM
I have the same prob - wired wiikey install, all clean points, but no drive workage.

I tested the fuse with a multimeter and there is resistance there, are there any other reasons the drive won't work?

>edit

I took the chip off, and still had probs. I put the thing back together again (without chip), and the drive motor span and it let me insert a game (wii sports original)..just didn't recognise the game, or let me eject it.

Joy. Joy. Joy.

JThunderz
03-14-2007, 07:31 PM
I have the modchip working (Cyclowiz is fully green), but the drive seems to be dead.

It makes weird insert and eject noises when I turn on, and it become stiff when I insert a disc into the drive, so it doesn't pull it in. Does this method of reviving a drive work with my problem?

gwendes
03-15-2007, 04:55 AM
I have the modchip working (Cyclowiz is fully green), but the drive seems to be dead.

It makes weird insert and eject noises when I turn on, and it become stiff when I insert a disc into the drive, so it doesn't pull it in. Does this method of reviving a drive work with my problem?

I doubt it - sounds like you have a physical problem with the drive. Try bridging the fuse as pictured and report back. In my case the drive was completely dead and it sprung back to life when I did this.

This thread needs a sticky if it isn't yet!

Happsai
03-15-2007, 12:25 PM
I have the modchip working (Cyclowiz is fully green), but the drive seems to be dead.

It makes weird insert and eject noises when I turn on, and it become stiff when I insert a disc into the drive, so it doesn't pull it in. Does this method of reviving a drive work with my problem?
I had a similar problem for a short while.
My problem was with the metal piece with the plastic arms attached to it that sits on top of the dvd drive.
Detach that layer, and make sure the arms are able to rotate along their pivots without getting caught in the open spaces of the metal plate. The arms must be positioned correctly for the drive to accept and cradle the disc. If they are not, the disc will only insert about halfway (or less) and then make horrible noises.

wiiismybaby
03-15-2007, 12:56 PM
I have a cyclowiz and the disc drive fuse blew on me. Now I WANT to get a new fuse but no one seems to know the value. ANYBODY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! It seems I will have to resort to a bypass of the fuse. soooooo risky. So I have a couple questions.

Hypothetically speaking....if I leave the chip soddered in(the green light is in so I know its connected correctly), and the fuse was burned by the hot soddering iron...when I bypass the fuse everything should be ok?

question 2 - I have a wallmart 2 year guarantee with the box. Ehem...returnable?

question 3 - Isn't the cyclowiz soposed to be stealth even when on? So why did I bother attatching it to the reset button?

question 4 - WHAT IS THE TRUE REASON FOR THIS FUSE TO BLOW? It's not the switch(most likely), because I did not install a switch. Is it bad chips? Because im sure for most people it works fine. Is it the Iron? My friend who knows how to sodder VERY VERY VERY well. Did what I thought a pretty job on it....but he sure took longer than on the videos online...and seemed to hold the iron down a bit longer as well.

Thank you guys. I'm weaping endlessly as we speak because I cannot play my wii....

BTW - to clarify, my wii still can turn on...I still can play classic games and such...just the DVD drive is done for....seems like a blown fuse. Back to crying.

Wiiismybaby

JThunderz
03-15-2007, 03:39 PM
I had a similar problem for a short while.
My problem was with the metal piece with the plastic arms attached to it that sits on top of the dvd drive.
Detach that layer, and make sure the arms are able to rotate along their pivots without getting caught in the open spaces of the metal plate. The arms must be positioned correctly for the drive to accept and cradle the disc. If they are not, the disc will only insert about halfway (or less) and then make horrible noises.

I just remembered about that metal piece. I found out that I forgot to put it back in when I closed everything up, so I'm not sure if that's a problem. And is the plastic arms on the metal piece or on the drive?

I doubt it - sounds like you have a physical problem with the drive. Try bridging the fuse as pictured and report back. In my case the drive was completely dead and it sprung back to life when I did this.

This thread needs a sticky if it isn't yet!


I will try the fuse if possible. And what happened to your Wii? Did it have the exact problem I had?

----

The drive didn't make any noise when I tested it while open, but when closed, it just acted a bit weird, so I'm sure it's something to do with me closing up the Wii.

gwendes
03-16-2007, 05:24 AM
when I bypass the fuse everything should be ok?


It's been fine for me since bridging it - I can't speak for anyone else or guarantee it will be working next year but my Wii gets a lot of play time and it's been fine :)


question 2 - I have a wallmart 2 year guarantee with the box. Ehem...returnable?

Umm... well... I suppose they might not check but you have gotta be breaking quite a few laws there...?


question 3 - Isn't the cyclowiz soposed to be stealth even when on? So why did I bother attatching it to the reset button?

I think the idea was to stop you having to open the Wii up again if they find a way to 'find' it in the future? Not really sure - just followed the instructions!


question 4 - WHAT IS THE TRUE REASON FOR THIS FUSE TO BLOW?

I think I made a mistake - I knew I was being a bit careless and I think it's my fault. Without an idea of how many people this has happened to I'm not really sure. I don't think it's the chip at fault ... pretty sure on that one!

BTW - to clarify, my wii still can turn on...I still can play classic games and such...just the DVD drive is done for....seems like a blown fuse. Back to crying.

My advice - go for it! What exactly have you got to lose?

Good luck!

wiiismybaby
03-16-2007, 10:04 AM
Thats cool that it works....are you currently still using the Cyclowiz with the bridged fuse?

After bridging the fuse, does the cyclowiz still function like it should? If that is the case then most likely we're looking at the fuse burning due to excess heat from the soldering iron... agreed?

I'm doing as much as I can to find out the value of the fuse so we all can get a real replacement. I think its going to have to take a wii being opened that has not blown the fuse and then using a multi-meter and testing it out. I'm having a hard time convincing a friend to open his wii for just that sake. I don't think he'll be down for it. But that seems like the solution. So if you can, ASK AWAY, and lets find out the value of this fuse so we can put permanent, safe fixes on Wiis.

Let me know what you guys think.

sdoc96
03-16-2007, 07:22 PM
I would guess that marking to be a "Z". ie. Zener Diode. (axial type)
Unfortunately there are no other markings I can see from the pic to decipher it's value (or diode orientation), which is common.
There are no really clear standards for SMD markings from manufacturer to manufacturer which will make the hunt difficult. :(

gwendes
03-17-2007, 06:07 AM
Thats cool that it works....are you currently still using the Cyclowiz with the bridged fuse?

After bridging the fuse, does the cyclowiz still function like it should? If that is the case then most likely we're looking at the fuse burning due to excess heat from the soldering iron... agreed?


Yep - still working fine (every day!) and chip functioning normally. I don't think that direct heat is the problem because I wasn't heating that fuse - I really think I shorted something - maybe with the shielding? I am pretty good at soldering and haven't made any changes to the chip or it's connection to the board since bridging that fuse...

Actually I thought it was a diode or resistor... maybe I'm wrong...

tpepsiman
03-19-2007, 12:35 PM
thanks this will come in handy some day

good work verry good work m8

wiiismybaby
03-19-2007, 02:12 PM
Alright folks. bypassed the fuse and the wii is working! WOOOO!! However, not without some minor drawbacks. When I first turn on the Wii, the drive will immediatly try to pull a disc in. After I eject a disc, it will not pull another disc in until I turn off the wii again.

In other words - To put in a new disc I have to turn off the wii....ok, thats fine...can deal. QUESTION - Is this normal with the cyclowiz?

#2 - might be off topic here....my News Channel, the Weather channel, and Everybody votes is no longer working...its VERY out of date. I can go in to the channel but all is out of date...even when i update my system time. Is this normal? Please leave me some feedback.

#3 - Any word of the value of the fuse?

PS - I still have not tried a back-up. My computer is giving me such a hard time....I cant download any software without illegal operations or it freezing. I am trying to reformat but it wont allow me. HELP(PM me because i know thats off topic)

whackawookie
03-19-2007, 03:26 PM
if your ready to get rid of everything on your hdd for formatting then use a floppy and create a bootable disk. make sure your pc starts from a: first then it can go to hdd or cdrom whatever order is fine. Start your pc with the bootable disk in and once its done loading type format C: and then hit y to choose yes. This should clear you out

1100101
03-19-2007, 07:50 PM
as far as the value of the fuse.
If you take out the fuse and run some wires to a Multimeter, you should check the amount of current it draws while the wii is on that way you can get the right value pico fuse


put the meter leads in place of each end of the fuse

round up to the nearest value of fuse

R3PUBLIC0N
03-19-2007, 09:58 PM
if your ready to get rid of everything on your hdd for formatting then use a floppy and create a bootable disk. make sure your pc starts from a: first then it can go to hdd or cdrom whatever order is fine. Start your pc with the bootable disk in and once its done loading type format C: and then hit y to choose yes. This should clear you out

Holy 1998. This is not the method you should use if you have Windows XP. If you have XP, put in your XP disk and reformat from booting the installer. You have to set your BIOS to boot off the CD.

gwendes
03-20-2007, 04:18 AM
Holy 1998.

LOL!

Use a bootable XP CD and configure your BIOS to boot from CD (may be 1st boot device or other similar wording usually under 'Advanced features' or something like that) It will prompt you to 'Press any key...' and guide you through the process...

Great to hear that it's (sort of) working!

When I first turn on the Wii, the drive will immediatly try to pull a disc in. After I eject a disc, it will not pull another disc in until I turn off the wii again.
QUESTION - Is this normal with the cyclowiz?


No. That isn't normal. Check the board and connections again. There is something wrong somewhere. I'd be inclined to leave it if it had caused me the amount of stress this must have caused you...

#2 - might be off topic here....my News Channel, the Weather channel, and Everybody votes is no longer working...its VERY out of date. I can go in to the channel but all is out of date...even when i update my system time. Is this normal? Please leave me some feedback.

Again, not normal. Check all connections and the backup battery is in the right way around. Go through the network settings and check those too. Reset your router if you use one - reinstall the PC with the shared connection if not.

Is everyone 100% sure this is a fuse? If it is it's just a safety measure and bridging it is fine until there is a problem somewhere in which case your Wii is going to stop working anyway.

Bridging with normal wire mine is still going strong and I don't give it much of a break!

wiiismybaby
03-20-2007, 08:17 AM
now my disc drive works normally at Random. Wii Shop channel when the chip is on works fine, but when turned off with the reset button...it dosnt load pictures and will not download. I will retry the weathe when I get home today..

ONCE AGAIN TO ALL WHO ARE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR DISC DRIVE AFTER INSTALLING THE MOD- I can confirm, because I did it myself, bypassing the fuse....WORKS!

At the end of the day I should have a backup prepared and I will fill you guys in if my backup works. The green light on the cyclowiz is working. All should be well but the test goes into effect later today. (another ps - im using a cheap cheap cheap blank dvd...so I might need another try)

BTW - PM me if you know good DVD media I could get and the LATEST VERSION of RawDump

:D - Thank You guys and Maxconsole for helping me threw this terrible terrible near trajedy!

gwendes
03-20-2007, 09:45 AM
BTW - PM me if you know good DVD media


I think it's pretty well accepted that DVD-R work the best. Only a couple of read errors with Ritek (printable) DVDs compared to a lot with DVD+R. Can always just eject and reinsert the disc. I think this is down to the DVD drive itself not the drivechip.

I hope you're able to sort the last of the problems soon wiismybaby...

wiiismybaby
03-20-2007, 05:48 PM
ok. I made the successful dump. cool cool stuff. then burned it at 2x onto a (yes cheap) maxwell dvd-r. first time I put it in....the drive made some very odd sounds, sure did not sound good. then I was prompted to eject the disc and turn off the console.

2nd attempt I just got a disc read error at the game channel screen

3rd attempt was the same as the first.

I'm hoping this is just a media thing. Help please?


other notes :the Iso file is the correct size also.

(I know now this is getting off the thread. where should we do this next)

Also - My wii can still only take games when I turn it on. If I eject a disk after playing my wii wont take in a disk. Anyone have similar problems? )

gwendes
03-21-2007, 03:26 AM
The next thing I'd do in your position is to strip the Wii down and check for anything mechanically wrong, loose wires, bridges (particularly near the switches) and anything else obviously wrong.

It's either something obvious or your drive really is dead... I suspect the problem is not the drive alone if other Wii channels aren't working.

I feel for you mate - can you get another Wii where you are?

wiiismybaby
03-21-2007, 07:15 AM
I think I'm going to try a wire install. I burned Zelda again going 1X....still same thing. I was playing Red Steel(real disc) when it froze on me eduring a checkpoint. That really made me mad...knowing even normal games won't work right. I read a post elsewhere here in Maxconsole from a person who had a very similar problem. They did a wire install and everything worked out.....oh well. 9 more hours till I get out of work....then its back to desoldering and soldering. Hopefully I do not blow another fuse.....sheesh.

oh, and Wii's are tough to come by. If this Wii goes...im going to try to send it back to Wall-Mart where I got it...hopefully it does not have to come to that.

splattered
03-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Man.

Ok, well we finally opened the Wii.

I let my friend solder it for me originally, and i didnt really check to make sure it matched the diagram exactly, i was just excited that it was finished and put back together...

But tonight, the first thing that we noticed was that... uhmm he didnt even connect the upgrade wires to the chip. At all. He connected the upgrade switch wires to both points on the dvd board.

We tried testing the fuse... it was indeed blown. We tried bridging it with wire. Didnt work. We tried bridging it with a glob of solder. Didnt work.

The Cyclowiz LED no longer comes on at all. Does it only come on when the drive is functioning or is it always on when the Wii power is on?

We tested the other fuse, it was fine so we didnt mess with it.

We took the board off the dvd drive and looked at the back side... we realized that the way the Wii knows to grab the disc is through little infra red LEDs in the mouth of the case housing... those are probably blown for all i know.

We put it back together, tested, dead... took it apart, checked everything again, put it back together... dead. Repeat. Repeat.

My Wii is toast.

So he offered to go halves with me on another system to mod.

I already got an RMA from Divineo so i'm gonna send back the chip, and get a new V2. Then i gotta scour the lands and try to find another new Wii, or put my money down somewhere and wait 2 weeks for a new shipment to arrive.

Blargh.

Oh well, it was a risk i was willing to take and we weren't careful enough. This is what happens i guess.

:)

gwendes
03-23-2007, 07:19 AM
eBay the Wii and get a new one. You obviously made a mistake and someone may be able to fix it but best pas to professionals.

The cyclowiz LED stays on all the time the Wii is on (when the green light is lit)

Sorry to hear that you broke it and this didn't work...

asher
03-24-2007, 09:56 AM
mine wont even turn on.... :(

o0joshua0o
03-25-2007, 08:19 PM
I was using a desoldering tool on the pad near this fuse. To make a long story short, I accidentally broke off (!) the z fuse being discussed in this topic. Am I completely screwed, or is there any way to fix it? I can't even bridge the fuse anymore, because it's not even connected to the PCB anymore. Please help if you have any ideas. My Wii will no longer accept any discs at all. :(

M37R01D
03-25-2007, 08:58 PM
just bridge the 2 pads that the fuse was on,
u dont need it their to bridge it,
when u bridge the connection you are bypassing (disabling) the fuse anyways like it wasnt their

gwendes
03-26-2007, 05:02 AM
If you've snapped off the pads that the fuse was on you'll need to solder a wire between the large traces of the board. You can use the large pad just to the left on the image and one of the smaller 'holes' to the right (you might need to gently scratch off some of the green stuff to reveal the copper.

How did you knock it off ? That must have taken some force...

o0joshua0o
03-26-2007, 08:49 AM
If you've snapped off the pads that the fuse was on you'll need to solder a wire between the large traces of the board. You can use the large pad just to the left on the image and one of the smaller 'holes' to the right (you might need to gently scratch off some of the green stuff to reveal the copper.

How did you knock it off ? That must have taken some force...

It got knocked off when I was using a desoldering tool to remove a wire connected to a nearby pad. The desoldering tool has a forceful, clicking pump, that knocked my hand out of position just as the wire came off the other pad. The wire somehow got lodged under the z fuse and loosened it terribly. When I removed the wire, the z fuse came off completely. Since then, my drive won't work at all, and I've been feeling really depressed. Not only do I have the eternally flashing LED problem on my Cyclowiz (no matter how good my A,B,C joints are), but now I can't even play my original discs!


It looks like the two little pads are still there. Do I have to use a wire, or could I just put a dab of solder on top of them, to make them connect?

o0joshua0o
03-27-2007, 12:05 AM
Thank you guys so much! I tried bridging the fuse, and it worked! :D My Wii can play retail games again!

Now I just have to figure out why the Cyclowiz's green LED won't stop blinking. I've checked the A,B, and C points multiple times. There must be some solder under the chip or something.

what9612
03-27-2007, 07:31 AM
i attempted to install wiinja stopped halfway and removed everything. then my drive would not eject. i bridged the fuse and still no luck. i think its something mechanical because i heard a grinding noise the first time i put it back. anybody kno what i could check for?

grim
03-28-2007, 06:40 PM
Thank you guys so much! I tried bridging the fuse, and it worked! :D My Wii can play retail games again!

Now I just have to figure out why the Cyclowiz's green LED won't stop blinking. I've checked the A,B, and C points multiple times. There must be some solder under the chip or something.

i had a issue with a cyclowiz doing that i had to unplug the dvd drive ribbon cable turn it on then when the chip is solid greent plug the ribbon cable back in and it work then i did the update to 3.0 that was a issue on a dms chipset

o0joshua0o
03-28-2007, 06:59 PM
i had a issue with a cyclowiz doing that i had to unplug the dvd drive ribbon cable turn it on then when the chip is solid greent plug the ribbon cable back in and it work then i did the update to 3.0 that was a issue on a dms chipset

Unfortunately for me, the ribbon cable trick you described didn't work. I completely removed the Cyclowiz and reinstalled it with wires. I really think I installed it correctly, but it still just wouldn't work (flashing LED still :mad: ). I think I got a bad Cyclowiz. I contacted kicktrading and they said I can exchange it for a Wiikey. I'm not bashing Cyclowiz, but I think I'd rather try a different brand of chip at this point.

mr. clipit
03-30-2007, 05:49 PM
I, too, am having a problem with my wii constantly ejecting after installing a wiikey onto the DMS chipset. If anyone has a solution or any ideas, please please tell me.

beavis6325
03-30-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm also having the problem with my wii ejecting when I turn on the console. I can't put a game in without turning it off and on or right after I have ejected a different game. I've resoldered it twice. The problem still persisted even with the chip off and I tried to make sure that there were no bridged connections. The chip worked two different times with a solid green led, but all the other times it is flashing. I'm pretty sure the points I'm soldering to are still good. I've been searching for a while now on what this ejecting problem could be because it's probably directly related to my flashing LED problem.
Anyone have any ideas?

eternalsin
04-06-2007, 11:58 AM
I installed the wiikey last night, did it myself, it seem pretty simplistic. I know for sure I solder all the points on correctly. For the tiny points I used the solder that was already established on the board. I put WII together back, booted up the machine, it loaded fine. It goes into the game screen. Now for the problem... I inserted in the firmware disc and then press reset. Sounds good right? Press A, then it goes back into the browser menu. Tried ejecting disc, the disc won't eject and the disc is not being read... I don't know what the problem is.. Need help thanks..

EDIT: Fix it, open up the entire wii and was gonna do the fuse method, but I found out that the brown connector was loose. I tighten it up and tested it. It works now. :)

tightlines
04-08-2007, 05:01 AM
Hello, my Wii-drive died for a while ago.
It didn't eject or didn't insert discs anymore.

However, some good guy found a fix to this.
What you are about to do is bridge a little fuse that doesn't work. Probaly killed trough the heat.

You can use a cable, or be desperate like me and just make a big soldering iron click over the whole fuse.
http://www.irri.se/upload/irri/img/DSCN1821_284.jpg
My camera did suck so hard so i couldn't take a picture of my own install, that's the guy that helped me out with this.

I can confirm it working and are now enjoying my backup games once more :)



Thanks a bunch...you are "the" man.....

a person brought over his wii..never been modded or opened before...wii sports stuck inside....drive dead....checked connections etc, etc...

the unit was dropped by accident....

I happened to have a few extra wiis lying around and so I starting swapping to see if it was indeed the drive......turn out it was.

try as I might still couldn't get it going...dead as a door nail...lol

started googling and found this thread...and presto...bam...fixed...yes...great

wish we could find out what the value of the fuse is and have it posted soon....would come in handy it seems with so many of these failures....


anyways just wanted to say thanks...............tightlines:D

ModdermanSurrey
04-10-2007, 11:26 AM
well still don't seee the fuse value anywhere......I don't have a dead drive...
If you have a dead one..(blown fuse)...try measuring the current across both sides of the fuse..... then post it....would come in handy...

jumpering should only be used if absolutely neccessary....the fuse was protection and put there for a reason ......

thanks:)

tnactim
04-13-2007, 12:59 PM
well still don't seee the fuse value anywhere......I don't have a dead drive...
If you have a dead one..(blown fuse)...try measuring the current across both sides of the fuse..... then post it....would come in handy...

jumpering should only be used if absolutely neccessary....the fuse was protection and put there for a reason ......

thanks:)

I'm just jumpin' on the bandwagon here....
1. I confirm this works!
2. I wanna know that damn fuse value!

Also, sweet jesus! If it wasn't for this thread, I would have been SLAUGHTERED by my roommates.

nightpath
04-16-2007, 10:17 PM
How would they know if you void the warranty when opening a Wii? If it's just stickers holding it heat it up with a hairdryer and peel them away with a razor.

ModdermanSurrey
04-17-2007, 06:19 PM
I'm just jumpin' on the bandwagon here....
1. I confirm this works!
2. I wanna know that damn fuse value!

Also, sweet jesus! If it wasn't for this thread, I would have been SLAUGHTERED by my roommates.


glad you didn't slaughter them....lol:D

serdnaclsg87
04-23-2007, 12:44 AM
I've had my wiikey installed for over a month, and I was using the Wiikey base 1.2 and using MFE and I turned it off. Then later when I turned it on, the drive makes the noise like it loaded up the disc, but when I press eject it sounds like it's gonna eject, but the disc doesn't come out. I keep pressing the eject button and it makes the normal drive sound but the disc just won't come out. Is this the same problem as the one discussed? Or is it most likely just something loose inside? I dont have access to my tools at the moment and wanted to see what I have to look forward to. Thanks.

RobTheHacker
05-08-2007, 01:57 PM
I've gotton the same problem, dvd drive's gone Dead, what kind of wire would be required to bypass the fuse?

tightlines
05-08-2007, 06:29 PM
I've gotton the same problem, dvd drive's gone Dead, what kind of wire would be required to bypass the fuse?


lets finally get the value of the fuse required to properly fix the dead drive issue. if you can put a multimeter between the 2 sides of the fuse and see what the current is... then add 25% to it and you should have the proper fuse value for replacement.

then everyone would know it....

"Just use the thinnest wire you can find.....or the usual kynar wire 30 awg...

btw you should know that even though jumpering the blown fuse works...it's still should be looked at as a very temp fix...fuse was put there for protection and is meant to blow when the current exceeds the rated value.:D

or if you are in my area...(surrey)...I'll do it for you free...just to learn the fuse value......:D


anyway have a great day:D.....moddermansurrey:D

masikari
05-12-2007, 12:50 PM
I installed a Wiikey about a month ago and had no problems at all since, 2 days ago I pulled the wii apart to do the internal wavebird and memory card mods. Done the memory card no probs and have been playing on it for a few hours since, again with no problems.

Turned the machine on earlier and it started loading a game but at a lot slower speed than usual and them seemed to hang. I ejected the disk and turned it off, ever since my drive wont work. No disks are drawn inside and it seems dead. I've double checked all solder points and none are bridged. Also check the sticky above and the mentioned resister does seem to work.

Any ideas guys?

darkovo
05-12-2007, 06:01 PM
Thanks for this & thank G0d I found it :)

Sorted out my issue, 1st CycloWiz I've done and though it waas the chip (done 6 WiiKey's without issue so presume it's something to do with the X solder point?

ModdermanSurrey
05-12-2007, 06:19 PM
I installed a Wiikey about a month ago and had no problems at all since, 2 days ago I pulled the wii apart to do the internal wavebird and memory card mods. Done the memory card no probs and have been playing on it for a few hours since, again with no problems.

Turned the machine on earlier and it started loading a game but at a lot slower speed than usual and them seemed to hang. I ejected the disk and turned it off, ever since my drive wont work. No disks are drawn inside and it seems dead. I've double checked all solder points and none are bridged. Also check the sticky above and the mentioned resister does seem to work.

Any ideas guys?

check the fuse...? as outlined on here....also if you have a meter ...measure the current between the 2 ends of the fuse for the value....definitely would come in handy...

Dreamreaper
05-12-2007, 07:15 PM
You can not check current in parallel with a meter, Current can be measured via a current clamp or in series; don't you mean resistance?

ecsw
05-13-2007, 01:37 AM
I simply sent it back to repair center and tell them that I screw up the drive. They replace it for me for free.

After the 1st fail, I got 3 wii with wiikey working no problem. :D

masikari
05-13-2007, 05:06 AM
Yep ive looked at that fuse and it seems to be working fine

ModdermanSurrey
05-13-2007, 11:07 AM
You can not check current in parallel with a meter, Current can be measured via a current clamp or in series; don't you mean resistance?


Yawn..where's my coffee......GM ..Dreamreaper ... if the circuit is broken (fuse blown)..you can measure the current between the 2 points ..series...

Dreamreaper
05-14-2007, 07:21 AM
Mornin......And that tells him what exactly? If the fuse isn't blown your in parallel are you not.
Still each to their own; current would not be my first point of fault finding but hey ho what would I know...............

ModdermanSurrey
05-14-2007, 07:13 PM
Mornin......And that tells him what exactly? If the fuse isn't blown your in parallel are you not.
Still each to their own; current would not be my first point of fault finding but hey ho what would I know...............


hi..Dreamreaper...Oh I get what you're saying...fuse ok...parrallel...Yeppers
Fuse blown...series

method not for fault finding..... just want to know replacement value on a wii that has a blown fuse is all.:D

moneydog96
05-20-2007, 10:36 PM
I installed a Wiikey about a month ago and had no problems at all since, 2 days ago I pulled the wii apart to do the internal wavebird and memory card mods. Done the memory card no probs and have been playing on it for a few hours since, again with no problems.

Turned the machine on earlier and it started loading a game but at a lot slower speed than usual and them seemed to hang. I ejected the disk and turned it off, ever since my drive wont work. No disks are drawn inside and it seems dead. I've double checked all solder points and none are bridged. Also check the sticky above and the mentioned resister does seem to work.

Any ideas guys?

Holy crap! I'm in the exact same boat right now. I did the internal wavebird install and killed my drive too! Is your Wii fixed now? Did bridging the fuse work for you? I can't try it yet as I'm really sleepy right now and don't trust myself with a soldering iron at the moment.

moneydog96
05-21-2007, 04:16 PM
Thank you! whoever came up with this. I checked the fuse with my multimeter and got no reading so I jumped it. After that I quickly hooked it up to power and pressed eject. A few whirs later and Bam! My disc came out and relieved a lot of my stress. To think this would have been the second time I had to explain to Best Buy why I'm returning an obviously modded console.Sad thing is, after I thought everything was fixed and put all 22 screws back in place I fired up a Gamecube game to test my stealth wavebird that I went through all this BS for and it didn't work :mad: . I'll try figuring it out later, but I'm just glad my Wii didn't brick.

masikari
05-21-2007, 05:43 PM
Holy crap! I'm in the exact same boat right now. I did the internal wavebird install and killed my drive too! Is your Wii fixed now? Did bridging the fuse work for you? I can't try it yet as I'm really sleepy right now and don't trust myself with a soldering iron at the moment.

It was the motoe in my drive that went, just one of those things really. Didnt need to bridge the fuse as the drive itself work, just not the mechanism that pulled the dvds in.

topmonkeyboy
06-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Hey, I've got the same problem with my drive being stuck:(

I installed the cyclowiz using wires(not quicksolder)Tested the wii and it worked fine.Flicked the switch to try to upgrade the chip which is where my problems began.The wii doesnt recognise that it has a disc in.
I am assuming that there is a picture of the fuse that needs to be bridged on the first page of this thread but I cannot see ANY pictures:(
I have test the fuses around where the chip is installed ut they all seem to be working fine.
I have now removed the chip but still the drive will not work.

Anyone have an ideas??

marsbarbabe
06-05-2007, 07:35 PM
BEWARE guys - I had similar problems to a couple of people on this thread.. Drive not taking discs, unless upon turning it off, making lots of 'drive' noise etc.

It turns out I had gotton wires 1 and 8 (Wiinja Deluxe install) the wrong way round :(

I put them right and hey presto! it all works OK - even the mod.

So triple check them wires before by-passing any fuses.

That'll teach me to do it when tired!


MBB

dire
06-06-2007, 06:51 PM
I'm also having similar issues, however my drive has not worked since I first installed wiikey. I tried everything that I could think of, the resistor is fine, the ribbon also ok at the connector as well as the clip. There aren't any splashes or any loose connections, etc. What else could I be looking at? Help is much appreciated.

BRY3N
06-06-2007, 10:53 PM
hey guys,
well i just installed the wiikey modchip and the same problem happening to me.. connected it all back and it wont eject or read the cd that is in there..
the bracket where the ribbon went snapped so i glued it with hot glue.. i tried the method of putting a blob of solder on the fuse and stil didnt work... do i do it to both fuses? i think there is 2 or just do it to the one and should i try taking my mod chip out? any help would be great thanx

xombouw
06-09-2007, 02:13 AM
A slight different problem.

After installing a WiiKey, the Wii behaves like this:

1 Wii recon and plays games (even backups) only when the Wii is reset or powered on.
2 Ejecting a game when the Wii is on, still displays the game on screen
3 Inserting a game when the Wii is on does not spin at all. (no detection of course)
4 (See point 2) Even when powering off the Wii and disconnect the power cable, reconnect the Wii and power in on. The last game was displayed.(no disc in the drive)

The only cause I could rememer is the battery wich felt out of its white holder into the hole where it belongs. Could this made any defects??

Hope someone have a sollution :)

edit: just messured the fuses, both are fine (are there others?)

edit: made a video: link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIT1Cvnn_s)

dlzerocool
06-11-2007, 03:20 PM
Hello,

I've read all your post and it seems no one has the same trouble as me.
I think my DMS chip is burned, the fuse has burn and my EU
electric adapter is dead too.

Here are two pictures: (sorry for the bad quality).
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5349/image005fa0.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image005fa0.jpg)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8840/image006wh2.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image006wh2.jpg)

If anyone have a wiiDVD - PCB working (whit DMS chip if possible) to send to me, let me know I'll pay for it.

nethawk
06-13-2007, 11:12 AM
I bridged that little fuse but still no action from the drive. Damn. Any other suggestions? Would be greatful.

topmonkeyboy
06-15-2007, 08:40 AM
I bridged that little fuse but still no action from the drive. Damn. Any other suggestions? Would be greatful.


looks like im in the same boat as you my friend:(
Doesnt seem to be a problem with the fuses but still wont accept or eject any discs.
Can anyone help????

Fe2O3
06-20-2007, 01:29 AM
It would be helpfull if people with said problems posted a small overview:

1) opened Wii
2) solderd modchip x
3) spilled beer over it
4) made sure I cleaned the beer out
5) put wii back together
6) opened up wii again, this time connected all cables
7) found out wii did not work again, opened wii again
8) broke 8 soldering pads, bent 5 legs and scratched the DVD driverboard with my soldering iron removing the modchip
9) poured gasoline over wii and burned it

etc...

The above is fiction offcourse ^^ but most of the people here including me cannot guess what happened to your wii to make it this way so as much info as possible is helpfull.

If possible, take pictures of what you think is broken, or may be broken, and of the top and bottom of the DVD driver board. Specifically pictures of anything you have modded, or touched in the Wii. 9 out of 10 cases here sound like something is shorting out bigtime or someone went booboo with the lens or mechanical assy. The last thing you'll want to do is to start bridging components, if the thing was obsolete they'd left it out.

So bridging the fuse is bad mkay. Don't do it.

sputnik23
06-20-2007, 02:12 PM
wow...I had all but given up hope on fixing my Wii, but decided to google "fix my wii" today...so glad I found this, and now my Wii is back from the dead!

steps I took to get here:


opened Wii, chipped it (cyclo-wiz), no good
sent defective chip back, got working chip
chipped again, works
chip stopped working when I close it up (of course)
secured everything, insulated everything, decided to add upgrade switch
drive is completely dead
remove switch, remove chip, drive is still dead
lament for a few weeks, waiting for any store to get a Wii in stock
try a last-ditch effort, and check google - find this thread
"stick a penny" in the fuse box - i.e. bypass the fuse
Great Success!!!!

XPunked
06-21-2007, 01:22 AM
Hey everyone,

I had a customer who's Wii wouldn't eject. There was a backup game stuck in there that played just fine with the Wiikey installed.
Fucked around for hours and nothing worked.

Then I put the drive into another Wii and it ejected first time!!
Then I put the drive back into the original Wii and it started working fine.

I don't know quite what happened but I think the drive just got 'stuck'.
Don't know how helpful that will be but it might help one of you poor guys out.

Good Luck.
##Be thankful you haven't got a 360, those things break down ALL the time, and there's normally nothing you can do to fix em. Plus the warrenty and customer service is worth less than ****.

moneydog96
06-21-2007, 04:54 PM
Anyone know what fuse to use for replacement yet? I'm kinda scared that this fix will lead to a random drive failure sooner or later. If anyone has a working fuse and knows how to ID it, please do. I don't know how much longer before something breaks down the line. While I'm here though here's what I've got for details:
-Installed WiiKey months prior to drive's death.
-Installed Internal Wavebird.
-Drive dies when I go to test the internal wavebird.
-I found this thread and tested the fuse for continuity and I got a reading of 0.
-I jump it and the drive comes back to life.

laini
06-28-2007, 09:58 PM
I opened up my wii a couple weeks ago and after putting it back together, I had the dead dvd drive problem. After searching various websites for either a replacement dvd drive or a way to fix it I came across this thread. So finally today I got around to doing this quickfix. After finishing and hooking it back together to my wii, it now turns on but just making a lot of noise, like a screeching sound, upon bootup, whenever I try to put a disc in, and after turning the power off to the wii. Is there a reason why it's doing this or do I have another problem as well?

Nevermind, figured it out... turns out the ribbon going from my drive motor to eject/read system snapped and just had to replace it

lippstuh
07-04-2007, 06:36 PM
i tried to mood this wii but after putting back the wii the disc drive wont work it makes a weird buzzing sound and wont accept discs. Usually when just putting 1/4 of a disc it sucks the rest. What is the problem? when pushing the whole cd in it makes the buzzing sound again, wont read the disc and push part of it out and

xentara
07-07-2007, 12:08 PM
I also had an eject disc problem. My dvd drive would still read the disc and I can play the game just fine but I couldn't take the disc out. So, I tried "bridging the fuse" but that didn't work for me. Since, I didn't want to get stuck with a Wii that can only play one game, I decided to take a bit of risk by opening the metal casing that was covering the dvd disc. Then I manually took out the disc by lifting up the disc spinner a bit. After that I used my hand to turn the motor on the right side of the dvd which in turn rotated the gears that retract the dvd drive back to open position. After I put the Wii back to normal and now I can insert disc and eject without any problem. No problem playing backup games at all.

My only concern is the "bridged fuse" that I put on. I don't think my fuse has any problem to begin with but since I didn't have the multi-meter to test the connection, I just put bridge on anyway just to test it out. So should I try to remove the bridge now? Everything is working perfectly. I'm just afraid that if I remove the bridge something else might not be working. I took me awhile to solder the bridge I don't know if I damaged the fuse in the process.

Is there any harm in leaving the bridge on the fuse? In a normal operating environment, a fuse would work just like a wire right? It would let currect flow through normally. The only benefit in having the fuse is when something goes wrong, the fuse would break to prevent further damage to the circuit board. Any comments?


Note: I had a problem with buzzing/scratching noise when the disc was spinner. I was able to fix this by re-adjusting the plastic on the metal casing. It got knocked down a bit so it was pushing the disc down more than it should.

rik666
07-12-2007, 11:57 AM
hey, my drive just started doing similar stuff today,

all of a sudden my drive, after it ejects a disc will not let me insert another until i turn the console off.

any ideas or is this the same as a dead drive?

idmclaren
07-14-2007, 03:06 PM
I had my drive stop working for me as well.

I managed to bridge the fuse as shown in the original post, and my drive will now accept disks, and eject them. But it does not spin up. Is there another fuse that may be blown or what?

This sucks!

slaskhink
07-23-2007, 02:50 PM
Hello, as i created this thread i just have to mention, that i have been running on this bridged fuse SINCE i started this thread.

Have that in mind when wondering if your Wii will take damage. Of course, there's no guarantee it won't. But it still works like a charm, and that's nice.

I just wanted to tell you to identify the problem BEFORE soldering in a bridge, in some of the lastest cases it feels like it isn't the fuse. Always check with a multimeter before bridging it.

XPunked
07-23-2007, 10:58 PM
This is probably a stupid question. In fact I know it is.
But when you say to test it with a multimeter you're checking to see if it's blown yeah? So you check resistance (ohms) and if it's really high or infinite, it means it's blown. A non-blown fuse should have very low resistance (almost zero) yeah?

Can anybody with any kind of electronic qualification confirm this?

timblade
07-24-2007, 12:48 AM
So my dad is an electrical engineer (for a living) and has more product catalogs than God. Somehow my fuse ended up blowing and he came to the conclusion that it's an 0603 2-amp fuse made by Littelfuse. I plan on buying a bunch of them to resell since I can only order from these guys in bulk. My cost will be ~ $1.00 and I'll sell em for $5.00 (including shipping in the USA).

Anyone interested? Personally, I'd feel much more comfortable once I get these things in and I have a replacement fuse installed!! :cool:

Wolferine111
08-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Note: I had a problem with buzzing/scratching noise when the disc was spinner. I was able to fix this by re-adjusting the plastic on the metal casing. It got knocked down a bit so it was pushing the disc down more than it should.

I have this exact same problem, could you possibly help me out in fixing this? I would open the top of the dvd drive, but im afraid there might be springs that will come flying out once i remove the cover. I cant seem to find a guide anywhere that details how to disassemble the wii dvd drive itself. Any help is much appreciated.

Stevio
08-11-2007, 08:21 PM
This is probably a stupid question. In fact I know it is.
But when you say to test it with a multimeter you're checking to see if it's blown yeah? So you check resistance (ohms) and if it's really high or infinite, it means it's blown. A non-blown fuse should have very low resistance (almost zero) yeah?

Can anybody with any kind of electronic qualification confirm this?

I am not an expert, but it fixed my drive. My fuse was blown. Tried with the multimeter it gave me a high resistance. After bypass (with the 2 points) it gives zero (means there is no resistance anymore)

Thanks btw, it worked great. I was a little shocked after more problems (burned solderpath etc) while soldering (first time) . After fixing these problems, the Cyclo chip said it was OK, only the dvd did not respond. Hapily i found my way to this topic and FIXED :)

0dan_dan0
08-24-2007, 03:35 PM
will the wii still turn on if this fuse has burnt out? becuase my turns on but has tantrums when it comes to inserting and ejecting disks

Stevio
08-24-2007, 07:42 PM
will the wii still turn on if this fuse has burnt out? becuase my turns on but has tantrums when it comes to inserting and ejecting disks

Well at my situation the wii did function normal. The only thing the dvd drive did not function. After the repair of the fuse everything was functioning normal. Btw i am now using the modchip for many many hours :) I guess there is something else at your situation, because the fuse repair is for dead drives.

0dan_dan0
08-25-2007, 08:43 AM
Well at my situation the wii did function normal. The only thing the dvd drive did not function. After the repair of the fuse everything was functioning normal. Btw i am now using the modchip for many many hours :) I guess there is something else at your situation, because the fuse repair is for dead drives.


thanks for your help but the title of the tread says to help fix inserting and ejecting disks and thats what problems i have so thats why i asked my quetion previously. You are right i do have other problems , i started a thread on them here if you want to take a peek

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=649877#post649877

thanks

EvilPrime
08-30-2007, 01:43 PM
I had the same problem with my Wii when I first modded it. I guess my soldering iron got a little too close to the fuse that controls the disc intake/eject. I ended up bridging it and it has worked very well. But I am wondering if anybody else who has done this has had any problems with copied games. All of my backups work flawlessly except for Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Strikers.

The reason I think this fuse might have something to do with it is because my brother also modded his Wii and the backups that don't work for me - work for him. The only difference in our systems is that I bridged the fuse for the DVD drive. His fuse never got broken so he never had to bridge it. Do you think that this could cause an issue?

sputnik23
08-30-2007, 06:22 PM
Do you think that this could cause an issue?

I doubt it, because both of those games work on my "bridged" Wii. Still, it's not like this is a science. Well, maybe it is, but it's not a science that I understand. Maybe you used too much solder to make the bridge?

0dan_dan0
08-31-2007, 07:28 AM
well i tried all the methods in the thread, bridge the fuse, and trying to play with the plastic that supports the disk, but nothing happened, so i'm going to try and send it back and get a replacement

thanks for all ya help

wiggim
09-22-2007, 06:58 PM
So my dad is an electrical engineer (for a living) and has more product catalogs than God. Somehow my fuse ended up blowing and he came to the conclusion that it's an 0603 2-amp fuse made by Littelfuse. I plan on buying a bunch of them to resell since I can only order from these guys in bulk. My cost will be ~ $1.00 and I'll sell em for $5.00 (including shipping in the USA).

Anyone interested? Personally, I'd feel much more comfortable once I get these things in and I have a replacement fuse installed!! :cool:

Very interesting info indeed. Does the fuse work?
Fast acting, short time lag 2.0A 24V fuse.. you can always take a glass one and run a wire to it.. 48W seems approperiate for a class 1 laser..

JacKz5o
09-23-2007, 09:37 PM
Bob the Builder can fix it. Yes he can.

HotShotAzn
09-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Hello,

Here is the series of events that lead me to this point:

1) Modded my own Wii with Wiifree then Wiikey via quick solder points...my Wii is working as desired.
2) My friend wanted his Wii modded. Long story short, he accidently hit it with a baseball bat. Not very hard though. It will boot to the XMB (is that what its called on the Wii) but that's it.
3) I tried the quick solder method with his Wiikey chip but needed to shift the chip and ripped out two solder points. One of them is the negative power wire and it ripped out a good chunk of "green."
4) I solder the two points to the alternate points. I test it out and the drive will not read. To be fair, I am not sure the drive worked before I ripped the solder pad out.
5) I removed the Wiikey and I tried bridging the connection but I get the error message:

An error has occured. Press the Eject Button and remove the disc, then turn the Wii console off and refer to the Wii Operations Manual for help troubleshooting.

This error message comes up after about 40 seconds after I power the Wii on. Any suggestions? I'm know it's the Wii drive so I wont bother swapping with my Wii drive.

knight0fdragon
10-14-2007, 08:50 PM
since I for one feel it is a bad idea to just bypass a fuse, does anybody knowwhat that part number is, so that I can replace it?

aang123
10-15-2007, 11:36 PM
Hi,
I came across an article on another forum that says the fuse is actually a 0 ohm SMT resistor.

Those 'fuses' as you call them are just 0 ohm SMT resistors. They are actually there to protect from some drastic failure caused by a power surge. Typically they are only really used for 3 reasons:

1) To protect a component which may be at risk if another unreliable part fails, for example power regulators or caps with a limited lifespan. (some caps for instant have _only_ 50,000 charge cycles which isnt much is its a noise filter)
2) Mechanical/RF parts which _could_ cause voltage feedback and damage other parts.
3) In line with an external connector which has contact with the outside world - eg an sdcard holder. After all who knows what someone may try to stick in there.

They are not sensative to a particular voltage or current but rather a combination of both. They will have a wattage level (Power = current x voltage) so any wattage over that will blow it.

If you measure its resistance you'll see it as zero ohms. The easiest way to figure out exactly what it is is to look up its size and colour somehwere like farnell or rs. (thats rswww.com not radioshack!)

Here is the link (http://psx-scene.com/forums/wii-modchips/53304-replacing-blown-fuse.html)

I, of course, claim no ownership of the article nor do I claim to know what it means for us. If anyone could shed some light on this it would probably be helpful to all.

Cali3350
10-27-2007, 03:08 AM
Hey guys. Really hoping you can help me out here. Here goes.

Botched Wiikey install. The points you attach the wiikey too on the dvd drive (the three of the five in that cluster) are gone. The only thing you see there is black now.

Boot up the Wii as it is and it will spin up the disc to try and detect it, however it wont. Go to the disc menu specifically and it will simply say "insert disc". It completely fails to read it at all.

Would this method be a possible solution to that, or is there something i could do to make up for the three burnt out pins on the Drive?

Thanks guys, really appreciate it.

Cali3350
10-27-2007, 03:12 PM
Well, as an update to above (i cant figure out how to edit posts, sorry). I tried just holding a wire over the fuse to see what would happen before i soldered it and nothing appeard to happen. The next time i booted up the wii (the fuse was NOT being bypassed now) the Wii would continuously eject and take discs for about 15 seconds before it would stop, at which point it would no longer let me insert a disc anymore. Bypassing the fuse again seems to yield nothing. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

STKD
10-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Excellent tip. Same fuse blew when attempting to fit my Cyclowiz V2 earlier. Just a note to anyone that it can be *really* hard to get a decent enough contact on both sides to bypass it so if it at first appears to not do anything, keep trying. A multimeter really does help too.

buzzar
11-05-2007, 07:31 AM
:mad:
Did this to a dead DMS drive and now ejects and takes in game disc but disc will not spin, just a few clicks and that's it, is there any other fuse points to look at ?

sohail212
11-05-2007, 09:43 PM
I installed D2CKEY chip and after that I had dead drive. I tried everything told in this forum and other but no luck.

These are things I did hopefully it might help someone. I can take the pictures if someone needs it.

1. Put the white cover on top while testing it. For some reason sensor was working when I had lamp light on it.
2. There is a lever on the right side of the drive. Pull it and then turn on the console. The system will adjust it's settings according to the drive.
3. If you get disc stuck in then start turning the pulley towards the motor until the disc is little bit out so you can pull the disc out. Then do the same process of lever to reset the mechanical system.

Now I have another problem the lights on D2CKEY are not staying ON, could be bad chip.

Thanks for your help.

beckham9901
11-08-2007, 10:02 AM
4903729
SCHURTER
3412.0119.22.
FUSE, SMD USF0603 2.0A
Current, fuse rating:2A; Case style:0603; Voltage rating, AC:32V; Approval Bodies:CSA, UL; Current, breaking capacity AC:50A; Current, b; Available until stocks are exhausted
Alternative available


This are the fuses we need after blowing up the existing one.

I order mine at Farnell.

For people who lives in the Netherlands and need them also please contact me beckham9901@hotmail.com

Hope this is helpfull for you guys who needs the value

R.MnTnA
11-10-2007, 08:13 PM
forget it delete this post

beckham9901
11-11-2007, 02:35 AM
4903729
SCHURTER
3412.0119.22.
FUSE, SMD USF0603 2.0A
Current, fuse rating:2A; Case style:0603; Voltage rating, AC:32V; Approval Bodies:CSA, UL; Current, breaking capacity AC:50A; Current, b;
Available until stocks are exhausted
Alternative available


This are the fuses we need after blowing up the existing one.

I order mine at Farnell.

For people who lives in the Netherlands and need them also please contact me beckham9901@hotmail.com

Hope this is helpfull for you guys who needs the value

Edit:
Hereby I confirm that it DOES work!
It takes me 3 fuses before it was in the right way on the Mobo.

Although bridging the fuse is an good option, if you have the change to pick up some fuses....

R.MnTnA
11-13-2007, 10:27 AM
Edit:
Hereby I confirm that it DOES work!
It takes me 3 fuses before it was in the right way on the Mobo.

Although bridging the fuse is an good option, if you have the change to pick up some fuses....

Do the replacement fuses have the same Z marking or is it 603 or something else on it. I'm thinking maybe I can find one on an old Video card or motherboard or something. Do you think that would work?

beckham9901
11-14-2007, 05:21 PM
Do the replacement fuses have the same Z marking or is it 603 or something else on it. I'm thinking maybe I can find one on an old Video card or motherboard or something. Do you think that would work?

I wouldn't take the risk.

My fuses have the Z mark but don't know if al fuses with Z are the 0603 2.0A.

And to get a fuse of your videocard you have to hit your soldering iron pretty high.
The change that you melt your fuse is very great.

Couldn't use my old fuse after I removed it...
And even with a new fuse it's a pretty nasty job.
They are very very small...

R.MnTnA
11-14-2007, 09:43 PM
I wouldn't take the risk.

My fuses have the Z mark but don't know if al fuses with Z are the 0603 2.0A.

And to get a fuse of your videocard you have to hit your soldering iron pretty high.
The change that you melt your fuse is very great.

Couldn't use my old fuse after I removed it...
And even with a new fuse it's a pretty nasty job.
They are very very small...

Yeah definitely not going to try to do that then.
I just ordered some from SCHURTER directly from there e-store. Min. order was 10 and shipping was $10 :eek: here in the US. You know it's only gonna cost something like $2 to mail them. Bastards! So it came out to like $14.... Plus to make sure I get this right I bought a variable Temp. Soldering iron with a Needle Point Tip! Oh and don't forget the head lamp magnifying goggles! :D Lets hope it works and I keep a steady hand. What's that stuff that Snipers use to keep steady?:p;) If anyone in the States need some fuses PM me.

beckham9901
11-15-2007, 04:57 AM
Yeah definitely not going to try to do that then.
I just ordered some from SCHURTER directly from there e-store. Min. order was 10 and shipping was $10 :eek: here in the US. You know it's only gonna cost something like $2 to mail them. Bastards! So it came out to like $14.... Plus to make sure I get this right I bought a variable Temp. Soldering iron with a Needle Point Tip! Oh and don't forget the head lamp magnifying goggles! :D Lets hope it works and I keep a steady hand. What's that stuff that Snipers use to keep steady?:p;) If anyone in the States need some fuses PM me.

Forgot the name of the stuff snipers use, but I remember that I used it in MGS1 on the psx!

Got you bought them though!
I had to pay 5.70 euro for 10 pcs.
Let them come for business sample's so the boss will pay for it=)

R.MnTnA
11-15-2007, 06:34 PM
Forgot the name of the stuff snipers use, but I remember that I used it in MGS1 on the psx!

Got you bought them though!
I had to pay 5.70 euro for 10 pcs.
Let them come for business sample's so the boss will pay for it=)

Thanks for the MGS reference I found it http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/569/images/diazepam.jpgnow I'm ready to start soldering! :p;)

spankynuts
11-18-2007, 01:11 PM
Ok so I received my genuine wiikey yesterday. I have a D2B with cut pins so in order to install the chip I had to dremel the pad to uncover the pins. The install went pretty well except the wii will not take in the dvd. It will power on and get to the main screen and use the wii mote with no problems except it will not slot load any disc (gamecube, burned, original, etc). The only way I can explain it is the disc is stiff to put in. I can hear the motor trying to pull it in and it goes in a little bit (not quite halfway) on it's own, but then stops. I tested the fuse with a multimeter and got no reading so I bridged it and got a reading. I tried the dvd again with several discs and same problem. I also made sure the ribbon cable was in tightly secured as well as the cable next to it. Somebody please help. Also, if you know anyone that repairs wii's and mods them please let me know. Thanks!!

RobTheHacker
11-19-2007, 08:48 AM
Yeah definitely not going to try to do that then.
I just ordered some from SCHURTER directly from there e-store. Min. order was 10 and shipping was $10 :eek: here in the US. You know it's only gonna cost something like $2 to mail them. Bastards! So it came out to like $14.... Plus to make sure I get this right I bought a variable Temp. Soldering iron with a Needle Point Tip! Oh and don't forget the head lamp magnifying goggles! :D Lets hope it works and I keep a steady hand. What's that stuff that Snipers use to keep steady?:p;) If anyone in the States need some fuses PM me.

Forgot the name of the stuff snipers use, but I remember that I used it in MGS1 on the psx!

Got you bought them though!
I had to pay 5.70 euro for 10 pcs.
Let them come for business sample's so the boss will pay for it=)

Guys, can you show me where I buy these fuses from, which ones they are what shud I be loooking for, I am uk based. Cheers.

Adam.Giles
11-26-2007, 12:10 PM
I've got a bunch of these fuses in the UK if anyone wants some. Had to buy a minimum of 40.

E-mail me on XmodsUK@blueyonder.co.uk

R.MnTnA
11-27-2007, 12:15 AM
Those fuses worked like a charm. Got my DVD back from the dead. :)
Thanks beckham9901 for the info on the type of fuses and to all that contributed to this thread! You guys saved my Wii! :D Except my dam Bluetooth chip is still fried anyone have a spare or know where I can find one. I can't connect any Wiimotes to the unit.

RobTheHacker
11-28-2007, 06:11 PM
Well I'm glad this is sorted, there's gonna be a lot of happy faces.

Btw how does the fuse installation work?

Cheers for all your work.

Adam.Giles
11-30-2007, 05:04 AM
Well I'm glad this is sorted, there's gonna be a lot of happy faces.

Btw how does the fuse installation work?

Cheers for all your work.

I just wire the new fuse in parallel to the old one. I suppose you could take the old one out, but I never thought about it.

flagon
12-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Short story - wii with no mod chip, dead dvd drive, fuses OK.

My long story of how I got here.. Was running a cyclowiz for a while.. no problems. Decided to update the firmware, and needed to add a switch. My switch went from point g and v to the clycliwiz instead of s and t ( i think those are the correct labels - essentially i put the switch on the 2 big squares on the chip in the front next to the other soldering points instead of the correct two that are way at the end)

I filpped on my wii, played a backup, then inserted the cyclowiz disk, hit the upgrade switch, loud pop through the speakers wii ded. let it sit for a while, it now boots up and runs, but the drive doesnt do anything.. wont suck in a disk or eject one

The cyclowiz was blinking. I removed the switch, and powered up again, and the cyclowiz still blinked, drive dead. completely removed the cyclowiz, drive still dead. Checked the 2 fuses I know about (labeled with a Z around the point X on the dvd drive) and they are OK (multimeter beeps when I put a probe at each side).. With power on, the voltage between G and V is 3.28V, not sure what it should be...

When I plug in the wii, front LED is red. If I force in a disk, it turns from red to green and boots up, but there is still nothing happening on the dvd drive itself, it doesnt move.

Does anyone have any ideas where I should look at next?

Thanks!

Tommy83
12-04-2007, 04:32 PM
Did you check the resisters? You may have fried them... The fuse's should have went first but I would check the resisters...

shah456
12-07-2007, 01:24 PM
I just ordered 10 of these fuses straight from the mfg. If anyone in the U.S. needs any, pm me. It cost me $15 and some change with shipping. We can discuss price. Thanks.

4903729
SCHURTER
3412.0119.22.
FUSE, SMD USF0603 2.0A
Current, fuse rating:2A; Case style:0603; Voltage rating, AC:32V; Approval Bodies:CSA, UL; Current, breaking capacity AC:50A; Current, b;

sbart
12-12-2007, 08:11 PM
Well my first post here. Best place so far.
Here is my prob.
Installed D2Ckey. Looked good.
used low heat soldering station with magna glass with light.
I first popped in the GH3 original. Worked.
Next i popped in GH3 backup. Didnt see the disc. Wouldnt eject.
Yada yada yada. Manually took the disc out. moved gears with my finger to get drive guards down. Powered up.
Inserted disc. Wont accept. Get blue light but thats it.
Checked both Z fuses with multimeter. Both are ok.

What the hack have i done?!!!!
My wiikey install
S. B.

hahnK
12-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Bridging the fuse (ie. replacing the fuse with a piece of wire) will work fine.

satlover
01-04-2008, 05:51 PM
hi there
I missed my wii. i need alot of help, my drive doesn't do nothing no spinning, eject or anything. the "N" fuses are ok, the GC2-D1 chip, it heats up really bad i can't put my finger on it, because it is so hot. there is no briging or modchip install right now i took the chip out. If you think you can help please i am waiting.
happy new year

Tommy83
01-07-2008, 02:25 PM
hi there
I missed my wii. i need alot of help, my drive doesn't do nothing no spinning, eject or anything. the "N" fuses are ok, the GC2-D1 chip, it heats up really bad i can't put my finger on it, because it is so hot. there is no briging or modchip install right now i took the chip out. If you think you can help please i am waiting.
happy new year

I sell replacement Wii parts in the U.K.

If you need a new drive let me know:cool:

dateq
02-07-2008, 02:30 PM
My venture into the WII modchip went bad.. REALLY bad..

End of story, 3 of my D2C chip on the board broke off.

So now I am stuck with a non-functioning 2 week old WII with a 1 day old Argon chip.. Why the #$####!!! did I even think I could do this?!?!?

Anyone have any ideas on how to proceed next?

Replacement parts? If so, where to get them? I live in Holland.

Thanks very much from a close-to-tears Ninty fan :(

NEO_X
02-08-2008, 03:41 PM
installed argon looks perfectly
except that the drive wont load
desoldered the chip drive wont still do anything is there aw way to check waht could be wron i checked the fuse and tried the wire trick but still no results someone mayb can help me out a little

when the chip was in and i put eject it goes blinking pressed eject once more it was steady blinking blue

wii resets goes on and off but drive looks dead

paOol
02-13-2008, 03:42 AM
Another Cyclowiz user here.

this is what happened to me.

-I installed the cyclowiz v2 chip on via quicksolder. I attached the dvd drive back and plugged my wii. i turned it on and the chip's green led was on and not flashing. the install was fine.

-then i installed the on/off switch and the reset wire. i plug everything back together, and i turn on the wii. the drive didn't spin/eject at all and the chip's led was dead. the wii itself worked fine still at this point (channels, virtual console, didn't crash or anything).

-so i freaked out and desoldered everything, tried again. still no eject/spin.
i tried installing the chip again. doesnt light up.

then i discovered this thread but i left my drive at home and im at school. im going to try this when i get home on friday and will post how it goes.

paOol
02-15-2008, 09:03 PM
Another Cyclowiz user here.

this is what happened to me.

-I installed the cyclowiz v2 chip on via quicksolder. I attached the dvd drive back and plugged my wii. i turned it on and the chip's green led was on and not flashing. the install was fine.

-then i installed the on/off switch and the reset wire. i plug everything back together, and i turn on the wii. the drive didn't spin/eject at all and the chip's led was dead. the wii itself worked fine still at this point (channels, virtual console, didn't crash or anything).

-so i freaked out and desoldered everything, tried again. still no eject/spin.
i tried installing the chip again. doesnt light up.

then i discovered this thread but i left my drive at home and im at school. im going to try this when i get home on friday and will post how it goes.

IT WORKED!!!
so i got my 30 gauge wire. soldered the fuse like in the picture. and now it ejects and reads all my real games (haven't installed the cyclowiz again yet).
rayman raving rabbits has never been so sexy.

IT WORKED!!! im so relieved. <3
but im reluctant to try the on/off switch again.....

Sangokushi
02-26-2008, 07:48 AM
Hi, at first my drive doesnt spin or eject, but then i remove all the solder and all from the chip set now is spinning and can see the game in the menu but when i access it, it wont allow to play give error and the disc wont eject.
would this solution fix the problem?

satlover
02-26-2008, 08:48 PM
Hi, at first my drive doesnt spin or eject, but then i remove all the solder and all from the chip set now is spinning and can see the game in the menu but when i access it, it wont allow to play give error and the disc wont eject.
would this solution fix the problem?

what i would suggest to you. check again the pcb drive, you have some solder somewhere. if it's not on the chips, it's there on the board. get yourself some alcohol and a small painting brush and give it a good clean.
then try to bang the drive on the table you are working on, for a couple bangs. not to hard.
good luck too you.

dohclude
02-26-2008, 08:55 PM
Hi, at first my drive doesnt spin or eject, but then i remove all the solder and all from the chip set now is spinning and can see the game in the menu but when i access it, it wont allow to play give error and the disc wont eject.
would this solution fix the problem?

I've seen that problem many times before. It sounds like something to do with the ribbon cable, or the ribbon cable connector. Take the drive out and then re-install it again and try to make sure that the ribbon cable is installed straight and all the way in. Sometimes it takes a few tries if the cable or the connector is getting worn out.

Tommy83
02-28-2008, 04:28 AM
Hi, at first my drive doesnt spin or eject, but then i remove all the solder and all from the chip set now is spinning and can see the game in the menu but when i access it, it wont allow to play give error and the disc wont eject.
would this solution fix the problem?

Sounds to me like you have lifted a pad below one of th legs of the IC, get a volt meter and check each leg to the alt point on the board. If you find a dead point, just use some kynar wire to join up the points.

thecircusb0y
02-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Good Day,
I'll be briref, because who wants to read a life story?
I have a d2c wii. Lu3 serial number.
I bought a d2pro.
When attempting the install d2pro, effed up.
Removed d2pro, and cleaned up as best as my friends and I could.
However the drive will not accept discs. But heres what I'm asking.
I plugged in the face plate, and it quickly flickers blue when I power on the wii. Does this mean anything what so ever?

I'll attempt to recover a multimeter and test the fuse. If the fuse is blown, I'll short it out and test the console. But I think I'm just going to ebay the wii after this and find a another one.

I can't remember having this much trouble on my old xbox. Damn technology is getting smaller and smaller.

Sangokushi
03-01-2008, 06:11 AM
look like the ribbon trick work. my disc can insert and eject now
but when i try to play the game it give me the error " cannot read the disc error"

what to do? none of my legs is broken nor any joint is gone.

satlover
03-01-2008, 09:37 AM
look like the ribbon trick work. my disc can insert and eject now
but when i try to play the game it give me the error " cannot read the disc error"

what to do? none of my legs is broken nor any joint is gone.
Do what i told you earlier, there is some legs of the chip being briged. or some left over of solder is there. look carefully. I've done alot of wii drives.

satlover
03-01-2008, 09:41 AM
Good Day,
I'll be briref, because who wants to read a life story?
I have a d2c wii. Lu3 serial number.
I bought a d2pro.
When attempting the install d2pro, effed up.
Removed d2pro, and cleaned up as best as my friends and I could.
However the drive will not accept discs. But heres what I'm asking.
I plugged in the face plate, and it quickly flickers blue when I power on the wii. Does this mean anything what so ever?

I'll attempt to recover a multimeter and test the fuse. If the fuse is blown, I'll short it out and test the console. But I think I'm just going to ebay the wii after this and find a another one.

I can't remember having this much trouble on my old xbox. Damn technology is getting smaller and smaller.
Your problem is not with the wii itself, it is the wii drive. try again give it a good a clean and try to look for any bridges in the chips you soldered. to clean it. Use some rubbing alcohol and a small painting brush. After that try to bang the drive against the table you are working on ,not to hard just a couples of tapes.

Sangokushi
03-04-2008, 04:14 AM
Hi, i did check nothing is there
i've given to my friend who own a mobile phone shop
his technician check all the legs for me and use some liquord thing and clean and wipe it.
look like i havent touch the drive at all
all solder are gone
yet still wont read the game.

redsquirrell
03-04-2008, 04:59 AM
Anyone in the UK repair Wii drives?

Have a d2c drive, had a dodgy install (not my work!) which is now all off. I have tried to fix it, clean all points/legs etc. Sometimes it works, most the time it doesnt. When it works it crashes after a few minutes (well, black screen system error).

Tested fuses and seem okay..

If i can get it repaired that would be great, but im not sure if it would be cost effective..

Tommy83
03-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Anyone in the UK repair Wii drives?

Have a d2c drive, had a dodgy install (not my work!) which is now all off. I have tried to fix it, clean all points/legs etc. Sometimes it works, most the time it doesnt. When it works it crashes after a few minutes (well, black screen system error).

Tested fuses and seem okay..

If i can get it repaired that would be great, but im not sure if it would be cost effective..

I sell Wii spares, drives, boards etc...

PM me if you want a replacement board.

catatronix
03-05-2008, 04:17 PM
Thanks for this tons of people on the forums have been asking for this!

That component you are bypassing is a fuse right?

am just wondering how would my fuse blow if that is really the case.
My drive has the same issues...no eject/insert of a disc...

also the brown and red wire were disconnect and i re-solder them back on..
What motor are the brown and red wire connected to?

Fireblaze zulu
03-15-2008, 05:43 PM
I don't know if this is a similar problem.

Cause?:
I just moved and shipped my wii to my house. Im not sure if it was damaged during the shipping but it worked fine before I shipped it.

Symptoms:
Anyways, the problem occurs when i insert a game, it seems to go in slowly, then the game ejects half way and goes back in, after a few seconds the disc ejects and rolls out of the slot. Sometimes the game gets jammed and i have to touch the actual disc to eject it. Also, if a game is in the console, it does not read.

Problem?:
Im guessing that it's a problem with the gears, possibly broke during shipping, of the disc mechanism or there is something stuck inside the slot. But because the games don't even read I fear that the lens may be broken.

Solution?:
Can I fix this myself if i get a triwing and open the console, I haven't modded this wii and would like to know if I could fix this myself. I ask because this is a launch wii and i believe the warranty(1 year?) is void or is not covered. Also, any suggestions on fixing this problem. Thanks in advance.

If worst comes to worst, i'll just ship it back to nintendo and pay the fee. Thanks again for any help.

Tommy83
03-15-2008, 06:41 PM
I don't know if this is a similar problem.

Cause?:
I just moved and shipped my wii to my house. Im not sure if it was damaged during the shipping but it worked fine before I shipped it.

Symptoms:
Anyways, the problem occurs when i insert a game, it seems to go in slowly, then the game ejects half way and goes back in, after a few seconds the disc ejects and rolls out of the slot. Sometimes the game gets jammed and i have to touch the actual disc to eject it. Also, if a game is in the console, it does not read.

Problem?:
Im guessing that it's a problem with the gears, possibly broke during shipping, of the disc mechanism or there is something stuck inside the slot. But because the games don't even read I fear that the lens may be broken.

Solution?:
Can I fix this myself if i get a triwing and open the console, I haven't modded this wii and would like to know if I could fix this myself. I ask because this is a launch wii and i believe the warranty(1 year?) is void or is not covered. Also, any suggestions on fixing this problem. Thanks in advance.

If worst comes to worst, i'll just ship it back to nintendo and pay the fee. Thanks again for any help.

I can repair this for you

darkbluefirefly
03-27-2008, 11:38 PM
on your board, there is 2 screws on the left. One of them actually grounds the board to the drive, make sure that screw is in or else you will keep getting the disks in and out.

Fireblaze zulu
03-29-2008, 01:22 AM
Actually I have opened my and looked at the gears, nothing seems to be wrong. And all the screws are in place. But I have made progress. The system now works if it's in the horizontal position, but will spit games out if it's in the vertical position.

I tested this with the wii open as well, I found that in the vertical position the game would just spin and not get locked in by the disc drive.

After some experimenting i found that if i pulled on the plastic prongs/tabs on the back end of the wii drive the disc would go in properly. Im guessing that there is something wrong with these last prongs/tabs and that in the vertical position the wii drive isn't "catching" these prongs. While in the horizontal position these prongs are forced downward and thus "catching" on the wii drive.

I didn't notice any broken gears so i don't think it's a gear problem. I don't mind playing the wii horizontally, but it takes more room than when it's vertical. Any suggestions?

redsquirrell
04-05-2008, 06:13 AM
My own wii has got some problems..

No matter on what drive is in it (modded or unmodded) it keeps bringing up the AN ERROR HAS OCCURED everytime a disc is inserted.

Dont mind trying to return to Nintendo, but was not sure if it could be down to the ribbon cabble connecting the wii drive to the motherboard? I disconnected it and once it worked, but every other time it didnt.

My only thing was that this wii has had many drives plugged in and out to test, but i can not seem to find replacement ribbons? anyone know?

is this a common problem if this part is loose/damaged will i get this error?

cheers

jhoe
04-08-2008, 10:29 PM
Any chance someone can shed some light on my situation...

I 'mixed' wiring diagrams, is this acceptable? This allows for you to solder every other IC leg it seems if you use multiple diagrams together.

My problem is that the D2CKey blue and red leds light up, then blue goes off, then red fades out as well. The drive does not spin. I thought it might be the L wire, so I desoldered JP1 and removed the L wire from the IC leg (still soldered to the chip).

When installing I checked for continuity between IC legs and I believe that none of them are touching/bridged. I checked the 'Z' fuse as well for continuity, them do not seem to be blown. I do not know the location of the 'X resistor'.

The Wii boots just fine and takes me to the main menu and when I hit A on the disc, it shows me two discs (Wii and Game Cube) and asks 'Please insert a disc."

I am trying to get the system running without putting back on the plastic housing, is this possible?

Anyone have a suggestion on what to check?

Update: Well, I pulled the chip out completely, drive still works, I guess I'll try the FlexPCB I have because I am out of Kynar :( (and I guess I'll order a spool of this stuff, seems handy)

kkid
04-15-2008, 03:59 PM
having a problem with my wiidrive as well. Old D2B. attempted this fix and didnt help at all. Still in the same boat with drive not spinning/reading/eject. I also noticed the chip at the bottom "GC2-D1" gets hot quickly. If u know any solutions that would be great.

andisblue
04-21-2008, 01:06 PM
My drive has stopped working but the fuses check out fine:(

gaz03tt
04-24-2008, 04:52 PM
can i plz hav some pics or a diagram plz

Dutchy1
04-26-2008, 05:37 AM
Hi Guys!

Great forum and a god send. Last night I turned my wii on, recently had it chipped and have been playing backed up games since the beginning of the month, ejected a disc and put my new wii fit disc in and nothing happened except the lights come on around the inlet, pressed A on the button to start the wii screen and all is fine but the screen for the wii fit says "insert disc", I now have the problem of not being able to eject the disc :mad: has a fuse blown? and do I need the bloke who put the chip in to see if he can fix the eject disc issue? I've only had the wii since Feb!

Any help appreciated.

Rgds, Ev

Dutchy1
04-26-2008, 11:16 AM
I managed to get the disc out, used another disc to give it a jerk and the ejector is now working fine but my wii isn't, put a disc in and get the error msg, An error has occured, press the eject button and remove the disc then turn the console off and refer to the wii operations manual.

What's happened? have I damaged it somehow? didn't use excessive force when getting the disc out so don't think I damaged the laser.

Help!

Ta, Ev

didineedthis
04-26-2008, 12:40 PM
I managed to get the disc out, used another disc to give it a jerk and the ejector is now working fine but my wii isn't, put a disc in and get the error msg, An error has occured, press the eject button and remove the disc then turn the console off and refer to the wii operations manual.

What's happened? have I damaged it somehow? didn't use excessive force when getting the disc out so don't think I damaged the laser.

Help!

Ta, Ev

do you know what chip you have installed ?

didineedthis

Dutchy1
04-26-2008, 12:56 PM
Hi Sorry but no, a mate at work installed the chip, he does loads of them, does this have an effect?

Going by the 360 web site it may be a D2C chip as I paid £70.00 to have it done, my serial no. begins with LEH161.

Ta, Ev

Dutchy1
05-04-2008, 07:05 AM
After letting my modder have a look at my Wii, he has come back and there could be 2 issues, A) I've semi-bricked my console by playing a disc that was in fact a NTSC version DVD+R (unbeknown at the time) as he has played some of his DVD-R Pal discs and they work fine and therefore will need a new UK firmare placed on it when that comes about or B) A hardware issue.

I'm hoping A, so when is the latest Firmware due for release?

Ta, Ev

moneydog96
05-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Just wanted to post a quick update. I did this fix over a year ago and my Wii is still working fine. It gets light usage and it still reads all my discs fine. Trust me, this isn't a temporary fix nor will it cause any serious damage.

Macflame
06-24-2008, 11:44 AM
I replaced a fuse on my Wii drive, the one at the begining of this thread. Before I re-attached it to the Wii, I checked for continuity and all was well. Fired the Wii up. No drive led no noise, nothing. Checked the fuse - open circuit.
Clearly I have more problems. I am glad I didn't just bridge the fuse.
The drive has not, to my knowledge, had a chip installed. If there was it was a neat install.
Has anyone else had a similar problem and solved it?

DrunkenNinja
07-08-2008, 05:13 AM
I used this Fix yesterday and it worked perfectly...

Just for everones information I laready had a Wasabi mod installed and was just tampering with the pot to get SSBB PAL to work, which I probably set too low which blew the fuse mentioned, after some google love I found a forum I was registered with previously had the answer Maxconsole :D

Anyway guessing that this fuse could blow without soldering heat, I checked it with a multimeter then used the wire bridge as used in the photo... After that the whole system seemed to spring to life, it may be my imagination but It seems to run smoother now, but that could have been due to the final Pot Adjustment... SSBB still does not work though...

Blaskarn
07-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Hi,
Yesterday night I was browsing the net and come across this thread. My problem was not as Happsai mentioned earlier (the steering arms in the dvd top, my problem was not the fuse. It was not a bad laser or any electronics for that matter. The problem was the white plastic arm that runs on the side of the drive. It seams that it was not on the right position and it was to far out from the drive itself. I figure it out by very gently pressing (no force) the white arm against the drive when inserting a disk. The drive was loding and spinning again :D:D
To fix the problem I bent the right side of the metal part 1 mm so the metal casing pushes against the arm.

BosWii08
07-26-2008, 11:13 AM
Bridging the fuse (ie. replacing the fuse with a piece of wire) will work fine.

Bridging the fuse is not working for me. Here is my story...

The connection to the wasabi chip are triple checked and the updated WII works fine for initial 4 hr for different backups without bridging, then quit ejecting the disk. The WII is updated with wasabi firmware v1.2. The WII is basically dead as "disk read error". I knew I am not the only one who has this "disk read erro" problem with wasabi chip installed, what a shame of Wasabi! Would not recommend anyone else to use Wasabi.

BosWii08
07-26-2008, 11:21 AM
Bridging the fuse is not working for me. Here is my story...

The connection to the wasabi chip are triple checked and the updated WII works fine for initial 4 hr for different backups without bridging, then quit ejecting the disk. The WII is updated with wasabi firmware v1.2. The WII is basically dead as "disk read error". I knew I am not the only one who has this "disk read erro" problem with wasabi chip installed, what a shame of Wasabi! Would not recommend anyone else to use Wasabi.

Further information about the fuse: it measured as short (0.9 ohm) without bridging.

The facts that WII initial works and then quit short after tell us that somewhere the firmware or the FPGA chip from Wasabi is not solid designed/enginerred.

BosWii08
07-26-2008, 11:28 AM
Further information about the fuse: it measured as short (0.9 ohm) without bridging.

The facts that WII initial works and then quit short after tell us that somewhere the firmware or the FPGA chip from Wasabi is not solid designed/enginerred.

I am trying to report the problem to Wasabi in wasabi web page and here is what I got:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. support@wasabi.net.cn

redsquirrell
07-29-2008, 09:57 AM
any ideas people?

Got a DMS drive in to mod..

Stupidly I didnt test the drive before I recieved it. With wiikey installed i just got black screen error when trying to run anything.

Had a fiddle with soldering, unfourtunatly a pad come off (pad 2) - first time this has happened to me in over 50 installs!

Anyway, i installed to IC leg which is easy enough. HOWEVER it didnt fix the problem.

Taken the wiikey and no difference.

Could the removed pad be causing this? I dont see why ? I've fixed other people missing pads by soldering direct to the IC...

virus_brown
07-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Hi All,

Just for info...

http://www.wii-clip.com/original.htm
:eek:

Best Regards,
VB

juvenal1228
08-05-2008, 04:16 AM
ok so i went ahaid and tried to find out what a good amp rating would be for a fuse to replace the original one, so i made a vid on youtube,

here it is.

Youtube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBRv3im3_kE)

by my findings, .375 amps or 375 miliamps is a good choice because the peak i measured was .36 amps or 360 miliamps.

**Note** i didn't measure while playing the game, only inserting/ejecting and spinning up on the disc channel.

retrogamer343
08-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Thank you so much for sharing this great information. The same thing happened to me and I could not figure out how to fix it. Saw your post and it worked great!! Thanks again.

DrLucky
09-05-2008, 04:53 PM
hello,

I just ordered in a D2Pro version 3 (with a pre soldered wii clip) and installed it today.

After putting my wii back together, I realized that a GC original game was still inside. It will not eject, nor will the wii read it.

It sounds like the drive is running though. Could I be having the same issue as described in this thread? It is a BRAND NEW wii, - 2 weeks old.

Thanks,
DrLucky

***EDIT***
nevermind, I have ordered a modchip for the wrong chipset.

retrogamer343
09-13-2008, 08:25 PM
If your drive is spinning then you are not having the same problem. When the fuse blows then it's as if the drive is not even connected. (no power at all).

I would open it up and check it out. I have fixed a couple of wii drives that would not take discs in or not spit them out. Usually all you have to look for is a slipped gear on the right side of the drive.
Also, if your modder forgot to put in the small black screw on the side of the wii under the square rubber foot then your eject button may not be pressing the button on the board. Try to press the eject button harder to hit the button under the board. if you here no eject sounds or no drive lens moving and no spinning then you might just have a blown fuse.

DrLucky
09-14-2008, 02:51 PM
If your drive is spinning then you are not having the same problem. When the fuse blows then it's as if the drive is not even connected. (no power at all).

I would open it up and check it out. I have fixed a couple of wii drives that would not take discs in or not spit them out. Usually all you have to look for is a slipped gear on the right side of the drive.
Also, if your modder forgot to put in the small black screw on the side of the wii under the square rubber foot then your eject button may not be pressing the button on the board. Try to press the eject button harder to hit the button under the board. if you here no eject sounds or no drive lens moving and no spinning then you might just have a blown fuse.

no, I left an edit a while back... I just ordered the wrong D2Pro... thanks anyway!

amd
10-10-2008, 07:43 PM
I have a very strange problem with my wii..I can start with no problem. I can insert discs and eject disc from a cold start.. When play for a while, it start having problem. I cannot eject the disc nor turn off the console. The only button works is the reset. Then I have to unplug the console and let it sit for a moment. Then it will work again. And after work a moment, problem happen again. Will this fix work for this case? The DVD drive is spinning and i am abel to play games without freezing..:(

retrogamer343
10-27-2008, 07:13 PM
I'm afraid this trick WILL NOT fix your drive. Please do not attempt bypassing the fuse. It sounds to me like your wii is overheating. Make sure your fan is spinning and there is no dust or anything covering your vents.

retrogamer343
11-10-2008, 11:50 PM
I must stress this: if your drive is making absolutely no noise or movement at all when you try to put in a disc then it is most likely a blown fuse. If the drive does trie to eject or intake a disc at all then it is a gear issue.

Fide Castrol
11-18-2008, 11:53 PM
ok so i went ahaid and tried to find out what a good amp rating would be for a fuse to replace the original one, so i made a vid on youtube,

here it is.

hXXp://XXX.youtube.com/watch?v=RBRv3im3_kE"]Youtube Video[

by my findings, .375 amps or 375 miliamps is a good choice because the peak i measured was .36 amps or 360 miliamps.

**Note** i didn't measure while playing the game, only inserting/ejecting and spinning up on the disc channel.

I got about as far as page 10 of this thread before I tried exactly this (and then, given my results, thought of video recording it to show everyone I don't know how to use a multimeter...). I actually melted the old (known bad) fuse when trying to remove it.

Anyway, I hooked up my multimeter and got a consistent reading of 2.14 mA when I trip the insertion sensor with the GameCube port black plastic thingy. <double-checks> Ah, I've just tried letting it suck a disc in and spin it up—the drain appears to peak at about 0.35 A during spin-up.

I thought 2 mA was a bit low, but I found this data page for the motor earlier today:

hXXp://XXX.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-bin/catalog/e_catalog.cgi?CAT_ID=ff_n30vb

The size of our fuse is indeed 0603 (I measured the intact one on this board at 0.033 in. by 0.066 in.).

I don't think this part is a 0 Ω resistor (see post no. 156 on page 11), because those say 0 on them and would provide no protection. (Things 0 Ω resistors are used for include configuration jumpers and `jumping' signals over other signals on a single layer of a circuit board.)

Google for ``smd fuse marking'' turns up hXXp://XXX.littelfuse.com/data/en/Product_Catalogs/Chapter10SurfaceMountFuses.pdf as the second hit. Our guy looks to be on pp. 370–1: SlimLine™ Lead-Free 0603 Very Fast-Acting Fuse 467 Series. An ``N'' marking indicates a 2 A rating, 32 V nominal, 0.024 Ω nominal, and I²t of 0.1103 A² s. (I was wondering where the earlier poster got a 2 A rating from.) It also says the part will withstand 10 s at 260 °C when wave soldering or 30 s at 260 °C when reflow soldering.

Product is marked on top surface with code to allow amperage rating identification without testing.

Yeah, thanks, guys. The `N' is really helpful....

scot the sniper
11-19-2008, 06:59 AM
gretn post cheers for the info mate.

paulhilton74
11-29-2008, 09:31 AM
I have had this issue and now the wii will not boot
It powers up and i get blank screen
Can anyone help please
Paul

tecbrat
12-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Hey guys having somewhat of the same problem, Modded with wiikey 2, have yet to run the install disk. I first tested it out with an original wii disk and all worked well. I came back today to install the config disk and now the cd in there will not eject. I tried with power off(red button only) the neon blue lights for a second but no noise.
Everything worked fine yesterday are the odds that this is a blown fuse also? or should i take it apart and try to remove the disk? all the menu works just fine, its just getting the disk out, as it is not being read either.
Thanks in advance

tecbrat
12-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Hey guys having somewhat of the same problem, Modded with wiikey 2, have yet to run the install disk. I first tested it out with an original wii disk and all worked well. I came back today to install the config disk and now the cd in there will not eject. I tried with power off(red button only) the neon blue lights for a second but no noise.
Everything worked fine yesterday are the odds that this is a blown fuse also? or should i take it apart and try to remove the disk? all the menu works just fine, its just getting the disk out, as it is not being read either.
Thanks in advance

forgot to mention, it does not read the game no more either. I am going to pull it apart and test the fuse. I sure hope that is teh problem. If so has anyone figured out what to replace it with?

tecbrat
12-05-2008, 02:29 AM
tore it apart and the fuse is fine.
Any other ideas?
I did insert a regular wii game before i ran the wiikey update or config, could that have done it?
its a brand new wii with no updates yet on it.

TurboRegal
12-31-2008, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the info!

amitx
01-28-2009, 02:13 PM
tore it apart and the fuse is fine.
Any other ideas?
I did insert a regular wii game before i ran the wiikey update or config, could that have done it?
its a brand new wii with no updates yet on it.


any advance on that?

retrogamer343
01-28-2009, 11:59 PM
Does the wii make any noise at all when you press the eject button? If so then you need to mess around with the gears. If it does not make any noise at all then your fuse is the problem and you need to either bridge the connection (like I did) or replace it.

amitx
01-29-2009, 02:13 AM
i have a problme like this also, there is no response from the drive
i did bridge the fuse with no luck,
is there any other fuses in the wii? in the motherboard maybe?

i also dont get a red light power, dont know way, the wii is working, and after i press the power button the light turns green but i dont have a red light.

PurplePox
04-02-2009, 06:58 PM
wish I would have seen this in July...

chris.magson
04-14-2009, 07:10 AM
tore it apart and the fuse is fine.
Any other ideas?
I did insert a regular wii game before i ran the wiikey update or config, could that have done it?
its a brand new wii with no updates yet on it.

Are there newer updates to this? DVD spins up, but will not eject (forgot Wii Sports in before modding). Removed the WiiKey v2 again, but still shows no DVD on console screen and will not eject (but does spin).

chris.magson
04-14-2009, 10:26 AM
Are there newer updates to this? DVD spins up, but will not eject (forgot Wii Sports in before modding). Removed the WiiKey v2 again, but still shows no DVD on console screen and will not eject (but does spin).

BTW, I found the picture to this thread at bbs.tvgame360.com.tw/viewthread.php?tid=19511&extra=&page=2 - it's no longer at the link on the start of this thread.

Also, if I "fiddle" with the drive while it is open and powered, I get the Wii disk error - press eject - restart message and the disk will stop spinning.

I now have 3 possible causes: blown fuse... possible?, cold solder (from Nintendo)... what can I do? badly fitting ribbon cable... what can I do?

Anyone? Please?

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04-14-2009, 10:27 AM
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chris.magson
04-14-2009, 07:09 PM
A lot of reading, this post. And now I've added more to it. Keeping myself busy! Problem was the loose DVD ribbon cable! (Fuses did measure Ok). Less panic and more thorough thought next time for me...
Ok... so I resoldered WiiKey2, plays originals no prob, but haven't read a DVD-R yet - not even the WiiKey Config/Update DVD - unreadable disk. Grrr - will try some other burners and some other media...
(WiiKey2 flashes red / blue 3 times rapidly on power up, then it's off... this is correct?)

jackoneil2000
05-24-2009, 04:23 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/11v030w.jpg (http://www.vgcrepairs.biz/zen_store/)
http://www.vgcrepairs.biz/zen_store/

Heres a great place to get your Wii repaired or purchase replacement parts. Enter code "webrewwii" to get $5 off purchases above $20.

Hope that helps.

alien8
06-21-2009, 07:17 AM
My Wii wont accept discs anymore, fine 1 day and now it wont accept them ?
Can someone send me or show me a link or image about it..before I open up my Wii.. I have basic electronics and good with a soldering iron, so I understand what I'm doing..
Thanks...

dagamer
07-03-2009, 09:38 PM
i guess i blew my drives fuse. can i use just about any wire to jump the fuse, (an old head phones thin wire). also do i connect the wires by just touching the tip to the point or do i have to use solder?

didineedthis
07-04-2009, 04:15 AM
the image of the fuses have been removed so i have uploaded another image showing the fuses location.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk82/didineedthis/BLOWNFUSE.jpg


didineedthis

hectormc
07-07-2009, 08:07 AM
great tip but is it safe :):):):):):)

didineedthis
07-08-2009, 10:44 AM
great tip but is it safe :):):):):):)

you can always use wire if you don't fancy solder ;)