Wiikey already CLONED???

[blacko1]

Can you tell me if the chip Wiikey sold by an italian reseller "Hardstore. com" is a CLONE?
please help me to understand it.

To me smells like a CLONE because:

1)The image:
the PCB Chip in the image posted on their site is DIFFERENT from the OFFICIAL ONE present on the official wiikey.cn site.(and hardstore is the ONLY SITE ON THE WORLD showing the chip image :confused: )
2)The components:
the PCB components are in DIFFERENT PLACES from the ORIGINAL PCB DESIGN
3)the image have a "Photoshopped" tag: "Wii KEY" on the top of the IC on the PCB (VERY BAD JOB IMHO :D )
3)The price of the chip:
on Gamefreax.de is 49.95€uros (and NO Chip Image on the site)
on Foundmy.com is 45$ (and NO Chip Image on the site)
on Divineo.it is 45€uros (and NO Chip Image on the site)
on Hardstore.com is 25 €uros (AND the site shows an image!!!)
4)The news:
They claims will have the CODE of the Wiikey and they will put it on a new chip they will produce.
AND they told the price will be lowered to 20€uros in 2 weeks !!!!!:eek:

Please Let me know if this site sells an OFFICIAL Wiikey or NOT...
i don't want to buy a Clone chip.

here's the link:
www.hardstore.com/default.asp?cmd=getProd&cmdID=8367&idC=899

[mankind]

I don't know, looks suspicious. I doubt it's a clone though. Either a scam or just silly marketing. http://www.hardstore.com/files/RSMTRADE_Files/Foto/8367_16728.JPG

[cravavr3]

Its highly unlikely that a no-name store will have have the modchip before highly known ones due, and more then likely respectable site swill get a sample chip prior to release for review to promote sales.

Seeing as official site has no image, and no official dealers -- I would assume possibel scam or maybe a clones of cyclowiz or wiinga chip as they already released.

But that image is haunting my mind, minus the wii key text on chip i have seen that image before.......where i can't remember, but was about a month ago.

[Yokotuna]

Hardstore is not a no name store they are very well known in italy.

[Tall King Crap]

The board has a different layout where the resistors go compared to the WiiKey's layout picture.

But then the sketch of the WiiKey was probably just a plain prototype and this could be either scam or a first batch of chips, would of been nice to see one - maybe completely installed on the Gamefreax site

atm I would guess the chances are:

it is a genuine chip - 70%
a clone chip - 20% (xeno-gc are blue and the Wiikey site displays a blue pcb too, so why red)
it is a fake - 10% (due to red pcb & different layout of resistors but then like I said this could be a first batch or revision of the WiiKey)

[gattoplano]

Hi,
I'm Aldo Tripiciano, webmaster and promoter for www.hardstore.com .
Just wanted to confirm You that we are going to sell a genuine WIIKEY chip.

Dear cravavr3, our "no name store" is one of the biggest hardware and videogames stores in Italy, so please get informed before you start defamations.

We have been selling modchips since 1998, we have almost 20000 (happy) customers and we would never sell anything fake / cloned - we have no interest in ruining our reputation.

If we can sell our products at such a low price it's as we have another store in Hong Kong (www.hardstore.hk) allowing us to directly import our modchips at exceptional prices.

The price of 25 euros for wii key, by the way, is still not final and it may raise or lower. We are only accepting PRE-ORDERS at the moment.
So please, check it back at 16/02/2007 to know more about it.

Have a nice day,
Aldo Tripiciano
Webmaster,
www.hardstore.com

[Maximilianop]

The image in wiikey's site is not a built PCB ... it's just a design picture, they could just have made a few changes on production.

Anyways, it is a preorder ... so just wait.

[blacko1]

If we can sell our products at such a low price it's as we have another store in Hong Kong (www.hardstore.hk) allowing us to directly import our modchips at exceptional prices.

The price of 25 euros for wii key, by the way, is still not final and it may raise or lower. We are only accepting PRE-ORDERS at the moment.
So please, check it back at 16/02/2007 to know more about it.


BS...
Gamefreax sells this product at 49.95€uros,FounMy.com at 45$,Divineo.it at 45€uros and i trust in a big site like these.
If you put the price of 25€uros and claim to lower the price in 2 weeks to 20€uros, OR you are a SCAMMER, OR you have a Clone.
The price is too low to be "exceptional" as you wrote (is it english? )
AND the FACT you're selling a clone it's you admit you'll put the wiikey code INTO another CHIP!!!
Please stop kidding...
Now i have my opinion clear...

[Zeus]

1) Their price is too cheap 2) A real picture of Wiikey is not available yet.

No point in arguing about this, just use your intelligence.

[Coppermine]

Hi,
I'm Aldo Tripiciano, webmaster and promoter for www.hardstore.com .
Just wanted to confirm You that we are going to sell a genuine WIIKEY chip.

Dear cravavr3, our "no name store" is one of the biggest hardware and videogames stores in Italy, so please get informed before you start defamations.

We have been selling modchips since 1998, we have almost 20000 (happy) customers and we would never sell anything fake / cloned - we have no interest in ruining our reputation.

If we can sell our products at such a low price it's as we have another store in Hong Kong (www.hardstore.hk) allowing us to directly import our modchips at exceptional prices.

The price of 25 euros for wii key, by the way, is still not final and it may raise or lower. We are only accepting PRE-ORDERS at the moment.
So please, check it back at 16/02/2007 to know more about it.

Have a nice day,
Aldo Tripiciano
Webmaster,
www.hardstore.com

Errrrr ... you cant consider yourself a big italy store since YOU ARE NOT IN ITALY and you are not big. Then it's not the first time your shop insert fake-priced items just to trap poor users.

[gattoplano]

our shop is established in RSM but most of our clients are italian.
And yes, I don't know what you mean with big, but in terms of sales WE ARE BIG :). And not, we can't do any scam to anyone.

I'm sorry, you probably own a concurrent website and you are trying to affect our credibility, but you are talking about nonsense.

Also, you are turning this post into a flame - so you are probably a troll.

@blacko1: at first, exceptional IS ENGLISH (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=exceptional) .
Then, if our price is too low, feel free to buy the chip at a higher price.
I already said this is only a pre-order, we never sold any fake and we'll never do it.
You'll see HARDSTORE in the list of official resellers for the chip in their homepage. We have a direct contact with the developers, who recently told us about the delay in production.
THEN AGAIN, FEEL FREE NOT TO BUY IT. Just wait until you see our name in the official distribution list :).

AND the FACT you're selling a clone it's you admit you'll put the wiikey code INTO another CHIP!!!
what are you talking about?!?

[blacko1]

AND the FACT you're selling a clone it's you admit you'll put the wiikey code INTO another CHIP!!!
what are you talking about?!?

In a news on your "BIG" site, you tell that you implement the WIIKEY CODE on a chip called PRODIGY...
that's why YOU SELL A CLONE, because you already have the code STEALED

Otherwise, IF the chip is original, you presell at a FALSE LOW PRICE a chip that at the launch will have THE SAME PRICE of ALL OTHERS SITES mentioned.
This is NOT FAIR.

But, i dont' think the price of this scam clone will raise...you admit in the news about the chip that in 2 weeks it will lower to 20€uros...
Are you mad?, a NEW innovative chip starts selling, AND 1 week after have a price cut of 5 €uros??
WTF are you telling????
Do you think we are morons???


P.S.
AH "Exceptional" is used in english with this meaning, as i'm from mars.

[Loco001]

If they charge 25€ for it, they still make profit so why dont u believe it ;-)

[gattoplano]

Yes, you are from mars:

from http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/EXCEPTIONAL :
Surpassing what is common or usual or expected
"exceptional kindness"
- especial, particular, special

this is what I meant, refering to our prices.

Then again, you DIDN'T READ our news.
The WIIKEY and the PRODIGY 4.5 are TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
We will never implement any wiikey code in the prodigy chip, IN FACTS we wrote:
The week after will be avaiable the first PRODIGY 4.5 version that include in only one chip the PS2 and WII code, all in one modchip so, with the same price as before...


In the article we are talking about two different things, WIIKEY and PRODIGY 4.5, that has NOTHING TO DO WITH WIIKEY.

Read things CAREFULLY before you put shame on our website, thanks.

Loco001: you are right, we still make a good profit with 25 euros. And other websites make a HUGE profit... selling things overpriced when they are new.

[blacko1]

don't try it with me, scammer...
FROM HARDSTORE OFFICIAL NEWSLETTER:
"La prima settimana di marzo tocca a PRODIGY!!! SIII il team sta lavorando ad integrare in PRODIGY4.5 il codice WII di WIIKEY... il tutto al prezzo di un prodigy normale... !!! 2 CHIP IN UNO QUINDI con un semplice ponticello per uno o l'altro uso."

Translation:
first week of march there's' PRODIGY!!!YEEESS the team are working to implement in PRODIGY4.5 the WIIKEY CODE...at the same price of a normal Prodigy...!!! 2 CHIPS in ONE, with a simply bridge for use one or the other.


i repeat : DON'T TRY IT , we are NOT so fool, scammer.


AND the price of 25€ IS :
a) the price for the clone (in that case too high)
b) the price for the original (in that case is a commercial move and then they will raise to the standard price)
in EVERY case: Blame on you...

[gattoplano]

I REPEAT: prodigy and wiikey are two different products.

We are selling the original Wiikey AND the Prodigy 4.5 chip - still in development.

We are selling the original Wiikey at 25 euros as a launch price, that MAYBE is going to raise later, or maybe not.

We will ALSO sell the new Prodigy when it will be done, that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD.

Is everything clear?

"The pictures are just an indication - We will upload a picture and more features within the next few days! ".

This is what we wrote in the news. Actually, the photo might not be the final product. This is not a scam, we only publish things as wiikey.cn publish them. The pic is the same.

http://www.hardstore.com/default.asp?cmd=getNews&cmdID=5372&idC=100&typeSheet=news&l=2
http://www.wiikey.cn

do you notice any difference?

By the way, there is no reason to keep talking with you, seriously. If you want to say bad things you can do it with everything, it's so easy :D. TROLL!!!!!

[blacko1]

would you know what i really think?
Hardstore try to stop the sells of cyclowiz with a low price of the wiikey (maybe mixing originals and cloned chips).
Then he put into the prodigy (oh my, what a name! ) the code stealed from wiikey, so he got 2 things:

a) trying to slower the cyclowiz
b) waiting for use after some time the chip prodigy with the stealed code.

as i told before:
what a mess...
and someone doubts if it's fair to use the word "scammer" in this thread???

Your posts are a mix of non-sense...in your official newsletter you claim a thing, then here you post other versions...
but are you reading yourself?: 25€ as "Launch price" ???
it's like walmart at the DAY ONE can sell the PS3 at 200 bucks...
oh and not to forget: like walmart again put after a week the same ps3 at 150$.....BUT PLEASE STOP BSxxing...

Guy, be smart and forget this thread, try to post on the www.cooking.com, maybe you'll find some chickens...here i don't think so...




UPDATE:
you changed right a few minutes ago the info and the pictures of wiikey on your site bwahahahaha
after that you pratically admit you're a scammer.
Me a troll? guy i doubt you don't know the word troll...

[felixm477]

I REPEAT: prodigy and wiikey are two different products.

We are selling the original Wiikey AND the Prodigy 4.5 chip - still in development.

We are selling the original Wiikey at 25 euros as a launch price, that MAYBE is going to raise later, or maybe not.

We will ALSO sell the new Prodigy when it will be done, that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD.

Is everything clear?

"The pictures are just an indication - We will upload a picture and more features within the next few days! ".

This is what we wrote in the news. Actually, the photo might not be the final product. This is not a scam, we only publish things as wiikey.cn publish them. The pic is the same.

http://www.hardstore.com/default.asp?cmd=getNews&cmdID=5372&idC=100&typeSheet=news&l=2
http://www.wiikey.cn

do you notice any difference?

By the way, there is no reason to keep talking with you, seriously. If you want to say bad things you can do it with everything, it's so easy :D. TROLL!!!!!
i have a question if they are 2 different products then why even mention "wiikey code" atall in the news it would be irrelivent to mention the code of a chip when refferencing new chip hardware. even given the possiblity of a loss in translation the news specificaly states in clearity that you are planing to add the wiikey code to the prodigy as a 2 in 1 chip. i dont see how that fits in with your response.

[blacko1]

believe me felix, NO errors in translation...
It's EXACTLY word-by-word what is present into the official newsletter of the no-name site...

UPDATE#2

it's very funny that their site is keep changing pictures and infos about the wiikey every 5 minutes..LOL
first in english, then in italian , then again in english, the descriptions changes every time...
hahahaha
can you trust a site like this???
what a fun! :)

[gattoplano]

I never changed anything :) you must be fool. Only our sales manager, that is actually in Kenya, has access to the news block, I can't touch it.

If the picture was different I would agree with you, but it wasn't ;) so the picture has been uploaded before I started this conversation.

No way we want to stop cyclowiz, we are resellers for cyclowiz as well, and we are selling a lot of cyclowiz modchips :) it's a best seller at the moment.

Bye Bye.

[blacko1]

guy please, i have all the snapshot of the site, please don't continue, go cooking...
...Kenya ROFTL....
i repeat, forget this forum...

you admit to be the webmaster AND for you it's impossible to change news?
while you talk in this post the "description of chip" the "News about it", the "Pictures of the chip" are changing...
Then you ADMIT THE CHANGEMENT OF THE PICS,
BUT in your post you tells: "THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN PICS ON OUR SITE AND THE OFFICIAL ONE" (while you upload the correct original pic on your site)...
Hey Joker, PLEASE STOP STOP STOP. you lost the right to reply, believe me, from now all your words are lies...
Loosing your face is not enough?
Do you want to deface your site?
be smart i told you, forget this forum

[Bernhardsen]

This thread is getting kinda retarded, but from what I have read I have no reason to believe that hardstore is scamming anyone.

Everything gattoplano has said makes sense. This doesnt mean that its true, but it helps.

When hardstore mentions prodigy and wiikey code in the same context, it doesnt say that they dont sell the original wiikey. It makes me think that they might sell a chip (prodigy) that uses the code from the wiikey for the wii part.

blacko1 is the one that looks like an ass in this thread. Your dont make much sense with your posts, it doesnt look like you actually read what other people writes, and you are rude.

If I hadnt already gotten my wiinja chip I would probably order from hardstore. I would probably google them a little before ordering because of this thread (cant be too carefull).

[tray262]

I have to agree, I've got two friends that both order from hardstore, for most of there modding. Both happy with service and price.

gattoplano don't worry about these muppets.

[gattoplano]

www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52361

This poor guy probably works for concurrency, he's trying to say we clone chips EVERYWHERE :) too easy.

Just shut up, you can't do anything to damage our reputation, you are just inventing things to damage Hardstore.

Answers in that thread just confirm it.

I'm leaving this FLAME thread now, but please Don't trust anything blacko1 says: he's only trying to damage us, and now that I found out about it I know what this thread is about: GIVING OUT FAKE INFORMATIONS TO DAMAGE OUR WEBSITE.

Why he does it, no one knows...

I'm really sorry to have answered so many times here. I hope you'll understand, thanks and goodbye.

[blacko1]

i don't work for anyone.
and i want only know what i'm buying.
tell what you want, but you CAN't REPLY to my observations about your changement of pictures and descriptions.
No arguments against this...
good luck for your sells, maybe in Kenya...

[tray262]

i don't work for anyone.
and i want only know what i'm buying.
tell what you want, but you CAN't REPLY to my observations about your changement of pictures and descriptions.
No arguments against this...
good luck for your sells, maybe in Kenya...
Reply With Quote


God Damn dude, SU, If you don't want the chip from Hardstore, Don't buy it, if it is a clone, (Which I don't believe it is) So what, you're not going to believe anything, so why keep crying about it ??? :( Who are you trying to help ? Do a search for the store and read reviews about there prices being better then anyone else. So please drop it, I'm tried of seeing this dumbass thread at the top of list. Mod's should close.

[blacko1]

if you don't want to read it don't do...
simply i don't want be scammed and the initial intent of the post was an help request...
but then i don't want to be fooled even on a forum thread and the posts are flowing by themselves...
anyway, got it...
no need to close this thread, the guys (all) are smart enough to understand my point...

[tray262]

if you don't want to read it don't do...
simply i don't want be scammed and the initial intent of the post was an help request...
but then i don't want to be fooled even on a forum thread and the posts are flowing by themselves...
anyway, got it...
no need to close this thread, the guys (all) are smart enough to understand my point...

lol, Point taken, totally understood. You don't want to be scammed. You are scared that hardstore is selling a clone. My advise as a friend, if you don't feel comfortable about buying from hardstore becasue you are worried about being scammed; then don't buy from them. Find a reseller you are comfortable with and go that route, that's my advice. My personal opinion is I wouldn't hesitate buy from hardstore. They may be low on there price point, but that could be because they are just esimating a price based on what the suppiler may have quoted them, or maybe they are basing it off of the wholesale price of the other chips, and guessing that it will be about the same. Why worry about it. Plus have you ever heard of profit by volume ? But 100 units @ $10ea, sell for $49.99, or buy 1000 units @ $9 and sell for $29.99, where do you think you make more money ?

[blacko1]

i'm not a marketing guy...
so maybe your right...but all the others things let me think....
and i'm suspicios by my nature...
so when i smell scam, i want to know very well where's the trap.
And here the smell is very high...
but, to be correct, i'll close here the point.

[fazered]

The picture used by hardstore at first is the same design as a production picture of the new chip the "Wizard" uploaded by a chip supplier on another forum. It would make sense why it would be so much cheaper.

To be honest I wouldn't care if it was a clone. The first chips are pretty expensive and a clone will be cheaper and make the market more competitive and in the end cheaper for us!

[panaconsoles]

I have bought a lot from hardstore, some products they sell very cheap.

For instance the Subzero+Summone fix on 1 board, costs 0.80 Euro a piece.
I have send Summone (from I believe Israel) and email to ask for the prices, and they were actually higher !!

The Wiikey chips are real, and no feak.
I know the company for many years, and they never sold clones.

By the way, San Marino, is a very small separate low tax country, in Italy.
You can see it as no Italy, but they are still Italians. In just everything ;-)

I wished that I have told you this, after I received my Wiikey modchips.
Because then I know for sure, I get all I want, and not something like 10% of my order.

Ed
ProConsoles.com (formerly panaconsoles)
The Netherlands

[*StoneCold*]

don't try it with me, scammer...
FROM HARDSTORE OFFICIAL NEWSLETTER:
"La prima settimana di marzo tocca a PRODIGY!!! SIII il team sta lavorando ad integrare in PRODIGY4.5 il codice WII di WIIKEY... il tutto al prezzo di un prodigy normale... !!! 2 CHIP IN UNO QUINDI con un semplice ponticello per uno o l'altro uso."

Translation:
first week of march there's' PRODIGY!!!YEEESS the team are working to implement in PRODIGY4.5 the WIIKEY CODE...at the same price of a normal Prodigy...!!! 2 CHIPS in ONE, with a simply bridge for use one or the other.


i repeat : DON'T TRY IT , we are NOT so fool, scammer.


AND the price of 25€ IS :
a) the price for the clone (in that case too high)
b) the price for the original (in that case is a commercial move and then they will raise to the standard price)
in EVERY case: Blame on you...


Your abit off a tool are'nt you???

If you aint got a CLUE about modchip business then what the hell are you keeping on flaming someone for?

Too start off, the people who are charging almost 50 bucks ARE ripping yous off, the chips are much cheaper than that!

I could easily buys these and sell them for €20 if i wanted, so theres a clue to how cheap they are, simple.

[*StoneCold*]

would you know what i really think?
Hardstore try to stop the sells of cyclowiz with a low price of the wiikey (maybe mixing originals and cloned chips).
Then he put into the prodigy (oh my, what a name! ) the code stealed from wiikey, so he got 2 things:

a) trying to slower the cyclowiz
b) waiting for use after some time the chip prodigy with the stealed code.

as i told before:
what a mess...
and someone doubts if it's fair to use the word "scammer" in this thread???

Your posts are a mix of non-sense...in your official newsletter you claim a thing, then here you post other versions...
but are you reading yourself?: 25€ as "Launch price" ???
it's like walmart at the DAY ONE can sell the PS3 at 200 bucks...
oh and not to forget: like walmart again put after a week the same ps3 at 150$.....BUT PLEASE STOP BSxxing...

Guy, be smart and forget this thread, try to post on the www.cooking.com, maybe you'll find some chickens...here i don't think so...




UPDATE:
you changed right a few minutes ago the info and the pictures of wiikey on your site bwahahahaha
after that you pratically admit you're a scammer.
Me a troll? guy i doubt you don't know the word troll...

ALSO the wiikey is a much better chip that the cyclowiz is so stop you trying to back that chip up over the wiikey, because its no competiton to be honest.

Just because this site is sponsored by cyclowiz does not make it any better or any worse than other chips so get a damn clue will you!!!

The fact of the matter is, the wiikey will be released in a few days, and whether YOU like it or not it is a better chip than the cyclowiz.

[blacko1]

BS...
cyclowiz is the only xhip on the market at the moment... AND now is fully compatible...
the others are far from be ready for the market...

[Loco001]

wiinja v2 are already shipping since 2 days ago and work fine in d2b, got a sample of it.

Stop praising that cycloshit....


But for me WiiKey will be the chip to install when they arrive :-)

[*StoneCold*]

Heres a prototype of the OFFICIAL WiiKey, which i guess is the picture you saw on that webshop.

So there you go, your wrong and everyone else is right, hurts doesent it?

[oscarRSM]

Hi GUys,

I`m owner of HARDSTORE.COM and I`m just returned from a hollyday of 10 days in AFRICA.. hehe in the SAVANAA so complete outside INTERNET!!!

The WIIKEY story is very FUNNY!!! Now I explain all for the users... before I want to THANX very much ALDO my webmaster that cannot know all the story arround WIIKEY PRICING !!!, but defend our reputation anywhere! :)

At end of jan I recieved a call from my friend that is INSIDE WIIKEY TEAM, he told me "oscar we will release a new modchip in few weeks and we will start an agressive policy of sell"...
After I got more information we setup a price of 30 EUR for this chip, with a special PREORDER price of 25 eur, according with WIIKEY TEAM...
After I start from AFRICA (on 8th of febr)...
Never I tought that A LOT OF THINGS WILL HAPPEN IN ONLY 1 WEEK!!! :)

PS: About the picture, we recieve it directly from who have in the hand the manufacture of WIIKEY, they only wait some days after us to put it online on official website... was this too a strategy, because they don`t want to give official layout for clones factories! (simple the guy that gave me the first picture of REAL WIIKEY forgot to tell me to don`t use it before the OK of the team!!!)...

So what happened... the WIIKEY TEAM saw that principal competitor CYCLOWIZ have a LOTS of problems, than more feautures will be added on WIIKEY PROJECT and now is really MORE POWERFULL solution in the market...
After many pressure from BIG E-SHOP websites and the new feautures of WIIKEY, the TEAM decide a new strategy with a new price range...

When 4 days ago I spoke from AFRICA with my friend of WIIKEY that explained me the situation and we found this solution.

1- ALL CUSTOMERS that preordered the WIIKEY with OLD PRICE will be recieve it without problems with OLD PRICE (so they are really LUCKY customers)

2- WE CHANGED THE PRICE OF WIIKEY ACCORDING WITH NEW WIIKEY TEAM STRATEGY for new orders (now wiikey is about 10 eur more expencive as before)

3- OUR NAME will be add in the next days on wiikey.cn website like OFFICIAL DISTRIBUTOR for ITALY, so NO ONE CAN TELL US WE ARE SCAMER...

So guys, hardstore have a story of 10 years, we was first ORIGACHIP worldwide sellers (first PS2 modchip) and our business is based on TRASPARENT and CORRECT INFORMATIONS gave on our website...
So pls you an be secure that never we sell something that is different than our description in our website, and in all cases if someone is not happy we proceede imediatly with REFUND.

I saw the posts of "blacko1" and imediatly I understud all!!! Just one day after I added online the preorder of WIIKEY I had a discussion with DIVINEO ITALY about the WIIKEY PRICE

The owner of DIVINEO ITALY told me "oscar, you are stupid to sell WIIKEY for this price, we are selling very well the CYCLOWIZ for 45 EUR now WIIKEY for this price will stop all our sells and I have a stock here..."
I told him "ok I understand, but is not my problem... if you did a wrong calculation arround your stock is NOT MY PROBLEM, and I think you are STUPID, because everywhere in the net is possible to understand that the prices on WII modchips will drop very very fast in few weeks"

Infact we post many weeks ago (according with our trasparent policy with our customers) a news on our website where we explained exactly the situation, we told to our customer "be carefull to buy WII modchips, every week price will drop so calculate to buy modchips that can cover your current request"...
DIVINEO infact want that we tell to customers "BUY CYCLOWIZ or WIIKEY FOR 40/45 EUR IS A GOOD DEAL"... are really terrorist!!!

I`m quite sure that back on blacko1 there is divineo italy, because some days ago they putted online a news that AN ITALIAN WEBSITE START TO SELL WIIKEY FOR A CHEAPER PRICE, BE CAREFULL CAN BE A CLONE.. I think if you go to www.divineo.it you can see the news in italian language... many days before the posto on this thread...
LAST THING see when was registered the account of blacko1....

In all cases now all is cleared, all our customers that preordered WIIKEY will recieve it regularry middle next week (there is a little delay in shipping from WIIKEY TEAM), shipping date is setup for 21th of febr.
All modchip will be ORIGINAL, our name will be put on OFFICIAL WEBSITE and after that I think DIVINEO ITALY must explain to all his customers that BELIVE from what they say, WHY THEY SPEND 45 EUR FOR CYCLOWIZ WHEN FINALLY FOR 25 EUR HARDSTORE DELIVERED ORIGINAL WIIKEY !!!

That`s all, bye for now guys... and I hope MAXCONSOLE don`t cancel this post, if they do that you know how influence have DIVINEO NETWORK on this forum... :(

sorry for my bad english! :)

BYE BYE
OSCAR - HARDSTORE.COM

[oscarRSM]

One thing I forgot!

Is very important understand how work the prices on our website...
HARDSTORE is placed in SAN MARINO where there is a VAT of 17%... BUT only for foreing customers that live in EU countries (not ITALY but all the others) we have a special EXPORT law here that allow

COMPLETE TAX FREE VAT

This mean, that all private customers that buy from us GOODS can save completly the VAT 17% and pay only the price of goods...
THe only restriction is that we need to use POST service to do that, EMS or QUICKPACK EUROPE service...

So from us for example a german customer can buy a X360 for 320 eur instead 399 eur, without custom operation on delivery and without pay VAT on delivery...

So is important that you undestand that our prices ONLY for foreing customers are normally 20% less than competitors in each EU countries... so a WIIKEY sold for 35 EUR in ITALY can be buy from outside italy (inside EU) for about 30 eur...

Important to note, EMS and QUICKPACK EUROPE delivery charge starts from 25 EUR, a package of 30 KG by QUICKPACK cost 71 EUR, and is the max weight of each package...

That`s is important to know expecially to understand our price list...

BYE FOR NOW
OSCAR

[blacko1]

i'm not connected in any way to ANY shop in any country in the world...
but please,feel free to think any strange thing...
you're welcome, "Master"...

[gattoplano]

Take a look at the official wiikey reseller list :D
http://www.wiikey.cn/resellers.html

[Suppression]

Poor Blacko. Did you wash your foot before you shoved it down your own throat?

[blacko1]

stop telling BS..
being official distributor of a product doesn't mean someone can't sells clones...
anyway i don't care at all...i'll buy a wiimod...

P.S.
Please continue to create and register other users and feel free to continue posting in this thread...it's SOOOOOOO funny..

[magind]

This is actually a really interesting thread. Here we have a business owner, whom , has an established business that has serviced forum members in the past, and on the other side, an idiot forum lynch mob.


I have never heard of this store before. I have never heard of this dude before. All I can do is speculate like the rest of you, but...

Why would this guy waste all this time, reputation and possibly even money just to win some crappy thread's pissing contest? I mean, he didn't even start the thread himself for god sakes. From the looks of it, he is simply trying to defend his business name from the barrage of slander that breeds in a few poster's stupidity.

If this turns out to be absolutely fake and a "scam" [not likely], he is taking a HUGE [b]unnecessary risk posting so much on this thread. I mean, look at what you are coming down on him for: his bad grammar/spelling, changing the placeholder image too often, changing languages in his description when it is an ITALIAN site...

C'mon guys...

[magind]

stop telling BS..
being official distributor of a product doesn't mean someone can't sells clones...
anyway i don't care at all...i'll buy a wiimod...

P.S.
Please continue to create and register other users and feel free to continue posting in this thread...it's SOOOOOOO funny..

Oh, you don't care at all, huh... that's pretty funny since you were so freaking desperate to prove to world how this dude is a SCAMMER just a few posts ago... pfft... no balls.

[EpochCT]

This thread is quite amusing, it's interesting to see blacko1 go from baseless accusations and displays of poor vocabulary (his argument over exceptional, lol) to out right denial. It's not every day you see someone being systematically proven a retard in public forums. I mean, some times you find arguments with different sides which you may take a stand for, but anyone who reads this thread knows, without a shadow of doubt, how retarded blacko1 is.

[magind]

This thread is quite amusing, it's interesting to see blacko1 go from baseless accusations and displays of poor vocabulary (his argument over exceptional, lol) to out right denial. It's not every day you see someone being systematically proven a retard in public forums. I mean, some times you find arguments with different sides which you may take a stand for, but anyone who reads this thread knows, without a shadow of doubt, how retarded blacko1 is.

lol, finally a ray or hope [or IQ] for the forums...

blacko1, please be proud. you will be the 1st on my Idiot List®

[magind]

argh, double post, stupid crappy cyber... wheres the damn delete button!

[Yokotuna]

best
thread
ever
:D

[fredbe4r]

Blacko actually works for Divieno (Italy) and is apparently trying to discredit this store for his own personal gain. It was refreshing to read his poor attempt at discrediting his competition. Funny stuff.

[llskankzll]

I remember when i order my first ps2 modchip from hardstore a long time ago. :D
I was trying the noswap trick (origachip and neo2) on my ps2.

[blacko1]

really i'm working for hardstore..hahaha...
i'm tired of all this crap....
i'm not connected in any business idiot...
continue to play with your pad dude...

[EpochCT]

Well that's funny, you getting tired of crap you yourself started. But please don't mind us, continue, after all this is a cheap as good entertainment gets.

[Perkele]

1) Their price is too cheap 2) A real picture of Wiikey is not available yet.

No point in arguing about this, just use your intelligence.
Hmmm, bashing a site that's not your sponsor is so typical MC, telling lies too.

[EpochCT]

Hmmm, bashing a site that's not your sponsor is so typical MC, telling lies too.
Oh, you still read what MC staff has to say on Wii modchips and shops? I learned to zone that out a long time ago, I'm here for the users.

[bsg]

Oh, you still read what MC staff has to say on Wii modchips and shops? I learned to zone that out a long time ago, I'm here for the users.

We know that you are here to annoy the users!

When did you escape from the mental hospital? Or did they just release you?

[magind]

We know that you are here to annoy the users!

When did you escape from the mental hospital? Or did they just release you?

Are you fucking kidding? This man speaks truth. MC is full of ****. Read my rants in 99% of my posts [including this one].

THE TRUTH IS MOTHERFUCKEN OUT THERE.

Love,

magind