CycloWiz not compatible with Rare D2B Drive Chipset

[Zeus]

Team Cyclops has just confirmed that the Cyclowiz is not compatible with the seemingly rare D2B drive chipset. If you bought your console towards the end of January or early February, the chances of finding this chipset increase. CycloWiz is completely compatible with the DMS and D2A chipsets however. You can order the CycloWiz now from <A href="http://www.divineo.com/php/affstart.php?affcode=66623&prod=dd-wi-cycwiz" target="_blank">North America</a> (<a href="http://www.divineo.com/php/affstart.php?affcode=66623&prod=dd-wi-cycwiz" target="_blank">$39.99</a>) / <a href="http://www.divineo.de/php/affstart.php?affcode=66623&prod=wii-cyclowizz" target="_blank">Germany</a> / <A href="http://www.divineo.es/php/affstart.php?affcode=66623&prod=wiicyclo-wiz" target="_blank">Spain</a> or <A href="http://www.divineo.it/php/affstart.php?affcode=66623&prod=wii-cyclowiz" target="_blank">Italy</a>.

<center><img src="http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/cyclosets.jpg"></center></a>


It is unfortunately confirmed that a new drive chipset was just released. While it's extremely rare for now (we had to fight two days to find one), it does exist. CycloWiz is not compatible with this drive (D2B). If you bought your console end of January of February, please make sure that you have a compatible drive before ordering or installing a CycloWiz. We'll keep you informed about our research on this drive.


Official Website: <A href="http://www.teamcyclops.com" target="_blank">TeamCyclops.com</a>

[infimesi]

Just as people expected... incompatibility issues with the chipsets.
Check yours before ordering.

This was about to break. No surprises here. :(

[SilverFox]

i don't want tell nothing, the news talk by itself... as you can see , cyclo is only a dumb clone, and it's not better only cause maxconsole advertise it.

[doku]

i don't want tell nothing, the news talk by itself... as you can see , cyclo is only a dumb clone, and it's not better only cause maxconsole advertise it.

Yeah the cyclo just SUX !! Only because maxconsole finance that clone !!

[mankind]

You wiinja fanbois done trash talking cyclops now? Looks like they actually got their **** together. Go back to sucking your wiinja teats.

At least they actually went out and tested theirs to confirm it. Wiinja is still dicking around.

[flagon]

i like this website.. if buying from their sponsor makes this site stay up.. who cares.. as long as this CHiP will work with my wii, i am buying it.. Of course I am going to wait until a 'real' person installs it and says it works..

[SilverFox]

i like this website too, but i don't like clone chips.

[rivlez]

guys what are you talking about? if zeus says its the best than its the best, thats it!

[Zak]

i don't want tell nothing, the news talk by itself... as you can see , cyclo is only a dumb clone, and it's not better only cause maxconsole advertise it.
Or maybe they were both developed early on when this chipset didn't even exist in Wii's. All this talk about it being a dumb clone is completely onfounded. They use the same technique and thus have the same feature set.

[Basta]

now they can use theier non working upgrade from dvd to patch the ship for all d2g owner.

[driftin8ez]

I bought my wii on the last release Sunday before Christmas so is it safe to say mine should be ok? Also as of now there is no way to tell from the outside correct?

[PSPWAD]

Yeah the cyclo just SUX !! Only because maxconsole finance that clone !!
LOL! If you are calling this a clone of Wiinja, then you really are showing how much of a moron you are (no offense, but if you halfway knew about these type of things you would know it is NOT a clone).

[gonepostl]

gone postal is never an early adopter:cool:

[BaNDiTo_RoX]

Lets see what happens to the people who pre-order them and don't have the correct chip.

Like I said before just wait for the smoke to settle before any purchase.

[Kafluke]

Plus, its upgradeable right? So its only a matter of time before they release a new flash for you to download and load via DVD to fix this problem. Can't say that about the wiinja now can ya!

[Whitewiz]

Plus, its upgradeable right? So its only a matter of time before they release a new flash for you to download and load via DVD to fix this problem. Can't say that about the wiinja now can ya!

LOL how would you upgrade if the chip doesnt work from the beginning? ^^

[giebdupe]

You wiinja fanbois done trash talking cyclops now? Looks like they actually got their **** together. Go back to sucking your wiinja teats.

At least they actually went out and tested theirs to confirm it. Wiinja is still dicking around.

Lol, dude - they tested it, because they heared of the problems the Wiinja has ^^ If the CyloWizz would have been available before the Wiinja, they would now be in the situation the Wiinja is.
Beside that, the quicksolder concept sucks balls now - just think about it. You quicksoldered your Cyclo just to see it does not work. It´s alot harder to unsolder it than to unsolder simple 5 wires.
And I´m not a Wiinja fanboy - I just don´t like when people are calling other stuff **** which is exactly the same.

[Tycho81]

people need to stop badmouthing these chips.

you know what. it's got more features than the Wiinja and the WiiKey has more features than the Cyclowiz.
will the WiiKey have the same incompatibility? maybe. nobody knows.

are these all "clones" of the Wiinja? who knows. did the Wiinja clone one of the others? maybe. did they all "clone" the work presented by someone else? maybe.

nobody has any idea what they're talking about. these are all the first generation. and have all been announced/released within, what.? a week of each other. c'mon.

do they use the same METHOD of attack on the Wii? very likely. but don't call them clones. because that's just ignorant.
OBVIOUSLY more dev work has gone into the latter 2 of the 3 chips.

people getting upset about them not working with this chip? I ask anyone who's been trash talking. did you know about the other chip? is it so far fetched to think that maybe THEY didn't know about it either. nobody has any real evidence of origin of these 3rd drive chips. is it NA, EU, Asian? maybe they never got a sampling of Wii's with this drive chip in it. were you expecting a revision to the hardware this fast?

ok, MaxConsole is hyping up the cyclowiz. so what. it pays to keep the site up (which I read constantly). don't like the cyclowiz? then shut up. contribute or post nothing! posts flaming the wiz (diz the wiz!!!) help nobody trying to figure out whats going on with these. keep it to yourself.

and you know what. the more that fail at full compatibility just means the next batch of chips will be better. nothings perfect. it took. what.? 6 months? more? to finally get 360 firmware working on the hitachi.

that is all. keep up the news. maybe if you want to read more about the other chips you should be asking the dev's to release more info.

[Loco001]

haha and how will u upgrade it when it doesnt even start in ur Wii.........

think before u write

And this is definately NO CLONE
it would taking take more then fucking 2 days to read out a fucking read prtected PIC, design a new PCB for it which uses a compeltly different chipset and is also updateable u morons.

[Ed_209]

What really sucks about all of this is there might not be a way to tell what type of dvd chip you have unless you open up the damn thing. I guess someone is going to have to make a wii console database and compare model and/or serial numbers etc. If you bought a system at launch then you most likely have nothing to worry about.

...and please stop flaming about "which modchip sucks", "which modchip is better", and "maxconsole is trying to rip people off" etc... If the chip does it's job and does it right then who gives a crap. It's not like there is some "ultimate wii modchip" that works on ALL wii versions and maxconsole is trying to "hide" it from their viewers so they can rake in more cyclowiz orders.

[vejita316]

haha and how will u upgrade it when it doesnt even start in ur Wii.........

think before u write

And this is definately NO CLONE
it would taking take more then fucking 2 days to read out a fucking read prtected PIC, design a new PCB for it which uses a compeltly different chipset and is also updateable u morons.

It might as well be a clone to have a useless update feature that won't be ever utilized since what can you update for a drivemod?

Globe360 says hi as in "Welcome to the club of our upgradable modchips that has no updates"

[SideFFect]

Plus, its upgradeable right? So its only a matter of time before they release a new flash for you to download and load via DVD to fix this problem. Can't say that about the wiinja now can ya!

I don't think a flash upgrade can fix compatibility issues dude...
If it won't work with the on-board chip they need a redesign...


- SideFFect -

[rivlez]

don't you just love the bold statements by maxconsole. "CycloWiz not compatible with Rare D2B Drive Chipset". How do they even know it's rare?!?!?! especially when cyclowiz just found out themselves. this look like its going to be a huge problem with all the mods.

[vejita316]

well to MC's defense, they said "rare for now"

Though the CycloWiz's usefulness has decreased to what the PSP's UP modchip has now become as it can't be installed in a vast majority of PSPs presently

[Monkey01]

guys what are you talking about? if zeus says its the best than its the best, thats it!
http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/omfg.gif

[rasputin]

http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/omfg.gif

This picture sums up my thoughts exactly!

Now, I wonder will the cyclo and wiininja guys offer refunds to people who bought the chip and now find out it does not work? Until now are they stating that it is incompatible with certain chipsets but many people have already bought them. To me, this is one of the truly important issues!

[high-as-a-kite]

gone postal is never an early adopter:cool:

That is a very wise choice...

[poisonousjuice]

oh so now it's not a big deal, because the chip is some how known to be RARE now that they admit it affects the cyclowiz... nice.

EDIT: I'm sure a previous post mentioned this already, but the photo shows a D2A chip and the headline says it doesn't work with D2B chip... WHICH ONE IS IT?

[high-as-a-kite]

This picture sums up my thoughts exactly!

Now, I wonder will the cyclo and wiininja guys offer refunds to people who bought the chip and now find out it does not work? Until now are they stating that it is incompatible with certain chipsets but many people have already bought them. To me, this is one of the truly important issues!

That's the risk you take, buying before all the information is released.

[StormB]

people need to stop badmouthing these chips.

you know what. it's got more features than the Wiinja and the WiiKey has more features than the Cyclowiz.
will the WiiKey have the same incompatibility? maybe. nobody knows.

are these all "clones" of the Wiinja? who knows. did the Wiinja clone one of the others? maybe. did they all "clone" the work presented by someone else? maybe.

nobody has any idea what they're talking about. these are all the first generation. and have all been announced/released within, what.? a week of each other. c'mon.

do they use the same METHOD of attack on the Wii? very likely. but don't call them clones. because that's just ignorant.
OBVIOUSLY more dev work has gone into the latter 2 of the 3 chips.

people getting upset about them not working with this chip? I ask anyone who's been trash talking. did you know about the other chip? is it so far fetched to think that maybe THEY didn't know about it either. nobody has any real evidence of origin of these 3rd drive chips. is it NA, EU, Asian? maybe they never got a sampling of Wii's with this drive chip in it. were you expecting a revision to the hardware this fast?

ok, MaxConsole is hyping up the cyclowiz. so what. it pays to keep the site up (which I read constantly). don't like the cyclowiz? then shut up. contribute or post nothing! posts flaming the wiz (diz the wiz!!!) help nobody trying to figure out whats going on with these. keep it to yourself.

and you know what. the more that fail at full compatibility just means the next batch of chips will be better. nothings perfect. it took. what.? 6 months? more? to finally get 360 firmware working on the hitachi.

that is all. keep up the news. maybe if you want to read more about the other chips you should be asking the dev's to release more info.

Thats the most sense i've read on here in a long time! I can't see CycloWiz or Wiinja being better than the other at the mo (or the other one but then i get the idea thats a while away; infact this dvd chip issue may have helped them out).

MC is spreading some FUD about the Wiinja, but then to be fair it is the most overpriced chip, and obviously hasn't had the cost of being made into a professional looking PCB etc. Personally I wouldn't pay any more than about £20 to chip my Wii with a drivechip.

So I'm waiting for some hex code to come along so I can program my own PIC (and that doesn't necessarily mean ripping off Wiinjas code, as much of the information to make a drivechip is available and just requires an experienced hacker to put it all together). Hell I can write PIC code, but there is a bit too much knowledge required for me to make such a chip myself.

[Slowking]

oh so now it's not a big deal, because the chip is some how known to be RARE now that they admit it affects the cyclowiz... nice.

EDIT: I'm sure a previous post mentioned this already, but the photo shows a D2A chip and the headline says it doesn't work with D2B chip... WHICH ONE IS IT?
Maybe you should look what's written on the picture. ;)

[StormB]

oh so now it's not a big deal, because the chip is some how known to be RARE now that they admit it affects the cyclowiz... nice.

EDIT: I'm sure a previous post mentioned this already, but the photo shows a D2A chip and the headline says it doesn't work with D2B chip... WHICH ONE IS IT?

There are 3 drive chips: GC2-DMS, GC2-D2A and GC2-D2B. Team Cyclops have announced that their chip is compatible with GC2-DMS and GC2-D2A chips (I imagine this would be the same for the Wiinja but AFAIK has not been confirmed yet).

The GC2-D2B chip is the one which is incompatible.

[IBNobody]

So...

Wiinja:
"Wiinja Mod Knocked for Six by Wii Hardware Design 'D2B'"

Cyclowiz:
"Team Cyclops has just confirmed that the Cyclowiz is not compatible with the seemingly rare D2B drive chipset."

Same problem, but a different spin by MC...

Are they unable to say anything negative toward the Cyclowiz?

[poisonousjuice]

Maybe you should look what's written on the picture. ;)

thanks. I didn't notice it the first time. I'm an idiot. :D

[rasputin]

So...

Wiinja:
"Wiinja Mod Knocked for Six by Wii Hardware Design 'D2B'"

Cyclowiz:
"Team Cyclops has just confirmed that the Cyclowiz is not compatible with the seemingly rare D2B drive chipset."

Same problem, but a different spin by MC...

Are they unable to say anything negative toward the Cyclowiz?


From the looks of it, not really. I have said this before but here it goes again:

- I have no issues with people wanting to make money for whatever reason (personal gain, keep the website going, whatever. I like the site and want to see it stay up). What I think should not be done is acting like you are not trying to sell a product when you really are and speaking poorly about every other product, even when they show the same flaws.

Either you are reporting news, or you are selling a product. No one is believing that this is unbiased reporting, but more like product bashing between competition.

[mozzer999]

ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahaha

Just laughing at the not so subtle propaganda, generated by the causal link between certain products and maxconsole taking a cut, masquerading as news.

Can we have a 'cyclowiz is sh1t' news item please just to balance out the scene?

I was going to tell myself not to listen to maxconsole when making purchasing decisions. Now I think I will actively do the opposite of what they say, and I should be fine.

[opporchoonist]

So...

Wiinja:
"Wiinja Mod Knocked for Six by Wii Hardware Design 'D2B'"

Cyclowiz:
"Team Cyclops has just confirmed that the Cyclowiz is not compatible with the seemingly rare D2B drive chipset."

Same problem, but a different spin by MC...

Are they unable to say anything negative toward the Cyclowiz?

just an example of some of the things some of you are sayin. why does it bother you what MC's stance/preference on chips are!? at the end of the day, they still giving you the information that is required, regardless of how it is put. If you don't like the fact MC are supporting the cyclowiz.......don't browse this site no more, quite simple.

[lenselijer]

dont buy the cyclowiz, because if your wii isnt supported you cannot update the chip because it wont work in your wii console, so it cannot load the update dvd!

[StormB]

just an example of some of the things some of you are sayin. why does it bother you what MC's stance/preference on chips are!? at the end of the day, they still giving you the information that is required, regardless of how it is put. If you don't like the fact MC are supporting the cyclowiz.......don't browse this site no more, quite simple.

Good point, well made, thats why I always visit Wiinewz before this one nowadays :)

[Steve-O 2006]

Well the Wiinja and Cyclowiz both cost the same so personally I would rather go with the Cyclowiz as it looks like for the price your getting more where as with the Wiinja your just getting a chip that you solder to the chips legs... If the Wiinja was only £10 - £15 than I would go with a wiinja...

[coadyj]

haha and how will u upgrade it when it doesnt even start in ur Wii.........

think before u write

And this is definately NO CLONE
it would taking take more then fucking 2 days to read out a fucking read prtected PIC, design a new PCB for it which uses a compeltly different chipset and is also updateable u morons.

you could solder the S and T points but not the A B C G V points then upgrade the chip and solder the rest. So i ask who is the real moron?

[wiggim]

So wheres the firmware upgrade to make it compatible is my question. They boast its DVD upgradable... well, get on that...

[faceless]

It's better to know what you're dealing with.

Zeus is pretty blatant abut what he supports, so anyone with half a brain can know when they're reading news versus advertisement.

Yes, this is a spin zone, but at least Zeus tries hard to make it obvious for people who aren't idiots.

In the end, is IS all about money after all, and if the obvious bias bothers people so much, why do they keep coming back?

They're only helping with those ad impressions.

As far as mods go, it sucks to be an early adopter, this has always been true.

[gboshort]

I'm the receipient of a 'rare' D2b Wii. It's a North American NTSC/U console and I purchased it about 2 weeks ago. Model # shows RVL-001(USA) - don't know if that helps.

'Rare' my eye....

[tornadog]

Yay!!!I got the wonderful D2B chip...bought from Amazon.com last week of January...so who wants my wiinja chip???

[Bothahoe]

is it possible to see if you got the "rare D2b chip" without opening my wii?

[faceless]

is it possible to see if you got the "rare D2b chip" without opening my wii?
only if you have x-ray vision (which i hear is quite common)

[poisonousjuice]

is it possible to see if you got the "rare D2b chip" without opening my wii?

Yes, I can see if I have it without opening your Wii.

[soussi]

Why they all speak of D2B if there is written D2A on teh chip?...

And is there a way to openup your wii without losing the guarantee?

Grzzz

[mankind]

Why they all speak of D2B if there is written D2A on teh chip?...

And is there a way to openup your wii without losing the guarantee?

Grzzz
Two different chips, there are a total of 3 that we know of D2A is different than D2B, D2A works, D2B doesn't.

[soussi]

Two different chips, there are a total of 3 that we know of D2A is different than D2B, D2A works, D2B doesn't.

Yea thx, i just tought they were refering to a third one :)

And is there a way to see if u got the bad mdoel wii? like is there something written on the box ? like on the psp boxes a letter ives it away... maybe someone can check it...

And is there a way to open up the wii without losing guarantee ? i hope there is a way...

GRzzz

[gboshort]

Why they all speak of D2B if there is written D2A on teh chip?...

And is there a way to openup your wii without losing the guarantee?

Grzzz

There are no tamper evident seals on the wii. If you are careful, you can open and close it with no change in appearance (Warranty intact).

You cannot tell AFAIK just by looking at the Wii or any of the screens it produces what type of chip you have. You'll have to open it until someone creates a database of SNs to determine what range of numbers the affected systems fall into (theoretically).

[Sebastian25]

how is this piece of crap even ungradeable?

a week ago it wasnt and now it is? what a rip off. they probably stole the code off someone else and it wasnt even that hard to "hack" the wii to play backups considering it was public knowledge.

40 dollars for a now useless modchip ... and u know they have NO incentive to provide updates, as they are a shoddy business that will take your money and run. all new WIIs will have the updated chip set... so its useless. im glad i NEVER will buy a product made from team cyclops or wiininja

[soussi]

There are no tamper evident seals on the wii. If you are careful, you can open and close it with no change in appearance (Warranty intact).

You cannot tell AFAIK just by looking at the Wii or any of the screens it produces what type of chip you have. You'll have to open it until someone creates a database of SNs to determine what range of numbers the affected systems fall into (theoretically).

Thx man! And Can someone from Europa (belgium ...) let me know if the wii from februari or later is the bad one? Thx lots

Grzzz

[bigmangeo]

Hi, i've some infos on the infamous D2B drive chipset.

First of all, it's absolutely NOT rare as team Cyclops said yesterday. :mad:

It's quite common in consoles with a serial number LEH1100etc or above.

It represents a real and huge stock, selling now in big stores across Europe and USA (sellings of standardized D2B chipset started on January 28, 2007 - at least an half million consoles estimated in February...and I'm talking only for Europe....i don't know the US situation...but I can suppose...well..at least another half million?).

So, the DMS and D2A chipsets are now outdated. Neither Winja, Cyclowiz and probably WiiKey support that D2B chipset.

It's not a counter-attack by Nintendo, it's only an unlucky situation (first modchip on Jenuary 26, first mass-D2B January 28) ...but what a situation!

It seems that D2B chipset don't use same interrupts as DMS and D2A. Maybe an alternative install (other soldering points) or a research for new interrupts are needed...I hope.

Bye from Italy :)

[tommasi]

nice i got the GC2-DMS :D thats mean im good to go but im still waiting for the wiikey

[richman]

my serial starts with LU30 and I bought it end of January in US. Didn't know if LEH is before or after ...2 LETTERS as opposed to 3 LETTERS.

[rommy667]

Thanks for the nfo bigmangeo :) i bought mine on the 30th of jan in europe and it has a LEH 1090 so it looks like i just made it.......

[Blackocellaris]

LU30xxxxxxx here. My Wii was bought on November 17th.

I dont have a Tri-Wing yet to open it up, but just giving y'all general serial # / time bought data.

Hopefully someone will chime in saying LU30xxx are okay to mod

[JonoX]

my serial starts with LU30 and I bought it end of January in US. Didn't know if LEH is before or after ...2 LETTERS as opposed to 3 LETTERS.

My Wii was purchased in Canada early/mid Dec. with a serial starting with LU301. I think for North American Wii consoles, launch units started with LU0. We just need some people who have opened their Wiis to tell us if they have the new chip or not, and what serial they have.

[Happsai]

My console has a serial # starting with LU50 (purchased Jan 30 in Canada), so I don't know where I sit and I don't have a tri-wing to find out :( .

I'm actually thinking that the chip may still work for those who are affected after some details are figured out. The Wii is not different--just the drive chip in it. The rest is the same. And since Nintendo wasn't out to block anything, the difference in the drive chips is probably the behaviours and combinations of interrupts. New firmware would obviously be necessary to accomodate these differences and perhaps the locations that the points on the modchip would be sodered to would be different (making a wired-install mandatory).
Having said all that, I know no more about this than most people here who pretend to know it all. I'm just trying to think from a comp-eng perspective, that's all. Hopefully the cyclops team will have the answers soon enough.

[gboshort]

US Purchased Jan 29 WalMart SN LU1054xxxx is a D2B console.

[richman]

I guess the D2B is not so RARE.
I'm glad that this info got out before the chips were shipped!
I cancelled my order until this gets straightened out.
I usually am not a FIRST MOD chip Adventurer... I wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation chip comes out. So I'll let you advance Scouts check out the CHIPS and learn from your experience ... and sit the FIRST round out! :D

p.s. For the guys that have the US version do we need the special screwdriver to open it?
If we do, I respectfully ask the MOD teams to include it with the Mod CHIP! :p

[Z80]

Well as with most systems, the best ones to mod ussually are earlier revisions. You can't call either Cyclo or Wiinja crap for not supporting the latest revision. The real test will be who comes up with support for the new revision first.

[cravavr3]

This is TOTAL BS.

Bought my Wii in Canada 2 weeks after launch.

Model # ROL -001, SN -LU50

and guess what.


I opened system just to check before i order a chip.

Bloody D2B in it.


Could it be different MFG plants using dif parts like MS and XBOX?

So if its a RARE chip, how come my 2 week old launch system has one.


It's trial and error with the 1st gen chips, as you can buy 10 consoles same store and test modchip and works, but different area dif lots can contain dif parts that make it incompatible.

Hopefully new info can be found on this chip.

[fluidmax]

you could solder the S and T points but not the A B C G V points then upgrade the chip and solder the rest. So i ask who is the real moron?
do you know what you are talking about? how can you boot a dvd that is not signed on the wii and flash the modchip when the modchip is not working?

[richman]

Who in US/CA has a chipset that can take the MODchips?

[M37R01D]

LU5036xxxxxxxxx with a 3 in the square

Purchased black friday 11/24

D2A

Model RVL-001 USA

[Happsai]

Hold on here!
M37R01D just said he has an LU50 and he has a D2A.
cravavr3 also has an LU50 and has a D2B... and both were bought around the same time.

Maybe we're looking at the wrong thing here. There doesn't seem to be a relationship between the serial #'s or the date of purchase with the type of drive chip. What else could it be?

What about model #'s? cravavr3 said he's got a ROL-001. I have a RVL-001 and don't know my drive chip type.... what models to the rest of you have?

[mankind]

LU10 bought it on release day, I can't get inside yet because i don't have a small enough screwdriver. asking some friends.

no luck. I have to wait a few days till I can go home. But I live in North America and I got LU10 from launch day.

[driftin8ez]

I bought mine on 12/17 and it has a LU505 serial. I wish i had my tri-wing so i could open it.

cravavr3 can you give a few more numbers from your serial? M37R01D had an LU5036 with a d2a. If you can give me a number or two more i can see where i stand. BTW i'm on the east coast USA.

Model #'s are all the same... (ROL-001)

[gboshort]

US release date console purchased at Wally World
SN is LU1005xxxxxxxx
DMS chipset.

[wigsplitta]

I'm the receipient of a 'rare' D2b Wii. It's a North American NTSC/U console and I purchased it about 2 weeks ago. Model # shows RVL-001(USA) - don't know if that helps.

'Rare' my eye....
I also have a recent console with the new chip. RVL-001 also.

[cravavr3]

some more serial # Lu50270 rest i would assume is # machine made. Also last number is 2 inside a square


gonna open my my GF's RVL-001 2morrow and see whats inside

[driftin8ez]

LU5057 i have a 3 inside the square at the end

[bobino24]

I have a RVL-001 bought in canada on release date and the serial number is a LU103... with a 7 in the box at the end. I will receive my triwing screwdriver this week and I'm gonna post about my results

[gboshort]

US Walmart Unit purchased Jan 29, 2007
LU5074xxxxxx
DMS chip

New batch, good chip. It's brother from the same store's delivery of 18 that day (reported earlier) was a D2B chipped drive.

Looks like the purchase date is not the determining factor.

End of SN has a 4 in the box.

[Happsai]

US Walmart Unit purchased Jan 29, 2007
LU5074xxxxxx
DMS chip

New batch, good chip. It's brother from the same store's delivery of 18 that day (reported earlier) was a D2B chipped drive.

Looks like the purchase date is not the determining factor.

End of SN has a 4 in the box.

Was the 4 in the box with the one with the good chip, bad chip or both?

[cravavr3]

Puchase date means nothing, i can probably find a store in hicks still selling sealed atari 2600's. And i bet its still original chips :p


Manufacturing Dates and location can be a factor.

I am wondering what the model # are meaning as seeing 2 commonly ROL and RVL.

With GC the DOL made a difference for modchips.

Model # differences usually mean hardware or packaged system differences. And as far as i know all packaging is same except new straps on newer systems form controller.

[gboshort]

Was the 4 in the box with the one with the good chip, bad chip or both?

2 Good chipped Wiis - one has 2 in the box, one has 4 in the box
1 D2B chipped Wii - has 6 in the box

All US units

[gboshort]

Puchase date means nothing, i can probably find a store in hicks still selling sealed atari 2600's. And i bet its still original chips :p


Manufacturing Dates and location can be a factor.

I am wondering what the model # are meaning as seeing 2 commonly ROL and RVL.

With GC the DOL made a difference for modchips.

In my post above, 'purchase date' is a misnomer. My intent was to compare within relative 'batches' of Wiis. For instance, within the same batch at WalMart, I purchased 2 - one with a good chip, one with a 'rare' D2B.

Based on their SN's I'm guessing they are from different production runs or even different factories (if that's an issue).

[Happsai]

2 Good chipped Wiis - one has 2 in the box, one has 4 in the box
1 D2B chipped Wii - has 6 in the box

All US units

Hmmm... I wonder if the # in the box means anything... :confused:
The suspense in figuring out this mystery is killing me!!!

[idunder]

RVL-001 USA
Serial no - LU50xxxxxx with a 2 in the box
GC2-DMS

Purchased Jan 29th

[kronikdaddy]

I have a launch Wii with DMS and for those of you without a tri wing screwdriver i have a small Phillips precision screwdriver with 1 side"wing" of the Phillips head broken and it worked GREAT for removing all the screws in the Wii.
Also if you dremel out a small notch in a flathead screwdriver and bend it in slightly it will fit the tri-wing bits great, If your not creative enuf to figure it out then just waste some money on a real tri wing bit. They are easier to get out than the gamecube screws with a melted BIC pen.

[zerozz]

RVL-001 USA
Serial no - LU50xxxxxx with a 0 in the box
GC2R-D2A :)

Purchased Dec 20th, Canada

[tommasi]

i got my Wii on jan 25th in canada and my Serial start with LU50 and i have GC2-DMS

[rvvisse]

So... While I wait for my triwing screwdriver to arrive... I can't help but wonder what happens after you install the cyclowiz to the systems that do have the D2B?

I would guess that the Wii functions totally as normal -- just no working backups.

I'm obviously asking this in preparation of an future DVD upgrade from Cyclowiz... but hey... I guess all I can do is wait and see.

If anyone can find it, please post what a modded D2B Wii does (or doesn't do)!!

EDIT: I've got an 8 on my box... *crosses fingers*

[ch33t4h]

i got my Wii on jan 25th in canada and my Serial start with LU50 and i have GC2-DMS

tomassi what number do you have in the box at end of your serial number? My hypothesis at this point is that the number in that box matters. So far, everyone who has posted working chips have had the number 0-4 in the box. I have a 5 in mine. I ordered a triwing today.

[Memphis2k]

I couldn't sleep wondering if my Cyclowiz was going to work with my Wii or not. Busted open the Wii and a sigh of releif :cool: :D I'm golden! My girlfiend is gonna freak when she see's what I did to it. Its going to be nice to back up all my purchased games.

I bought my first Wii on the 1/21/07 @ Target.

Serial#: LU507*****[5] <--In the box
Chip#: QC2-DMS
Model#: RVL001(USA)

Give a little info back to the community.

[badbadtz]

all these people without tri-wings, is the melted pen trick not possible on the wii?

[whackawookie]

all these people without tri-wings, is the melted pen trick not possible on the wii?

melted pen trick isnt for a triwing but a gamebit (think its called that). triwing is the old screws used on gba gamebits on gamecube

[bigmangeo]

I opened my Wii without triwing, too.
I rearranged a common slotted tip screwdriver with patience....and a good medium-grained file. :)

P.S. PS3News rumors about a possible alternative-install for Wiinja & CycloWiz. Any confirms? :confused:

[badbadtz]

think you might be right wookie, but the gamecube had a gamebit, not a triwing.

we both got confused ;)

[badbadtz]

i just took out the first screw though using the melted pen trick, it works just as well as it did with a gamebit, if not even easier :cool:

[AcADIeN]

We need more serial with the known chip (if you dont know your chip, dont post your serial its useless for us)

This is what I got so far

it could be wrong


0,3= D2A
2,4,5,7,9 = DMS
6 = D2B

This is the number in the square

[Phaethon]

We need more serial with the known chip (if you dont know your chip, dont post your serial its useless for us)

This is what I got so far

it could be wrong


0,3= D2A
2,4,5 = DMS
6 = D2B

This is the number in the square

My german PAL Wii with the DMS Chipset has a 7 in the square.

German PAL - From: 27.12.06 - Serial: LEH1004xxxxx - Set: Panasonic GC2-DMS

[luckylukenl]

my PAL Wii has a 9 in the box
Serial starts with: LEH1045
DMS chip

[felixm477]

I don't think a flash upgrade can fix compatibility issues dude...
If it won't work with the on-board chip they need a redesign...


- SideFFect -

actually the solder points are all in the same spot, the only change is the controller manufacturer. this is fixable by fw changing the commands the mod gives the controller, the only set back is the programming would have to be done without the wii meaning the companies would have to give u a programmer to update the chips from a pc.

[wigsplitta]

We need more serial with the known chip (if you dont know your chip, dont post your serial its useless for us)

This is what I got so far

it could be wrong


0,3= D2A
2,4,5,7,9 = DMS
6 = D2B

This is the number in the square
Mine is a D2B and ends in a 2

[AcADIeN]

Mine is a D2B and ends in a 2

Thats it then, thats not the way to find it (unless its linked with LU, LE and LA, and the number in the square, but it will take longer to figure it out), thanks all

[AcADIeN]

Mine is a D2B and ends in a 2

Is it LU, LA or LE ? first 2 digit

[AcADIeN]

LU [4] = D2B
LU [2] = DMS
LU [0] = D2A
LU [5] = DMS
LU [3] = D2A
LU [4] = DMS
LU[6] = D2B


Thats what I found, it will be hard to figure out what's chip we got, cause now LU [4] seem to base DMS and D2B

[cravavr3]

2 of us reported LU[2] and having the D2B chips. so that list won't fly.

Maybe a combination of model #'s as well as see ROL and RVL.

[auyongtc]

Darn, just disassembled my Japanese Wii unit, and found the D2B chip inside :(

Bought on Jan 28 - serial: LJF110xxx80[1]

On the bright side, there was no tri-wing screws in my unit, all Philips screws :)

[M37R01D]

I highly doubt that the squared number has anything to do with it,

my theory is its totally random, it will most likely be like telling if a samsung or hitachi is in an xbox360, i mean yes the older ones u have a better chance of the working chipset (jus like b4 they hacked the 0078)
only part that sux is you cant hit eject and tell if you have to open it from lookin at the tray

[driftin8ez]

Purchase date: 12/17
Serial # LU5057 [3]
Chipset: GC2-DMS

[graveman2000]

i just got a wii i cant post my chip cause im waiting on my screwdriver but i can tell you this on the Wii box there is 2 sets of number in the barcode. Like with the xbox360 you can tell which dvd rom by the box. There is this code going up the side of the barcode: RVL S WC USZ and then the product code of the barcode is 45496880019 and my Serial No is LU30637XXX[4] i will report my chip when i open the box

[driftin8ez]

i just got a wii i cant post my chip cause im waiting on my screwdriver but i can tell you this on the Wii box there is 2 sets of number in the barcode. Like with the xbox360 you can tell which dvd rom by the box. There is this code going up the side of the barcode: RVL S WC USZ and then the product code of the barcode is 45496880019 and my Serial No is LU30637XXX[4] i will report my chip when i open the box

My bar code reads the exact same thing on the side and across. I have a dms chip so either we both have a dms chip or that has no bearing on it.

[Craigsblackie]

my PAL Wii has a 9 in the box
Serial starts with: LEH1045
DMS chip
Same here, uk. Bought early Jan.

[xry]

Hm, i'm getting my Wii tomorrow. Excited as hell.
The shop i bought it from got it at the 1st of February. They said it was the second shipment they got in January with Wii Consoles.

I'm pretty sure i've got D2B, but frankly, i don't care, i just want those philips screws, the modchip people will find out a way to f*** with the D2B some day ;)

Is there any good guide about opening the Wii? And is there any warranty seal like with the 360?

I'll report my numbers & chipset as soon as i've played some Wii Sports :D

[gboshort]

i just got a wii i cant post my chip cause im waiting on my screwdriver but i can tell you this on the Wii box there is 2 sets of number in the barcode. Like with the xbox360 you can tell which dvd rom by the box. There is this code going up the side of the barcode: RVL S WC USZ and then the product code of the barcode is 45496880019 and my Serial No is LU30637XXX[4] i will report my chip when i open the box

The first barcode you mention is the UPC. It's what the stores scan to identify the product in their item database and ring you up at the checkout. It definitely will NOT lead to a discovery of the Wii components - other than the fact that it's a Wii you are buying and not a wok.

The serial number MAY lead to some discoveries about the Wii components, but there is not enough data yet to draw any conclusions. Report your chip and SN together (along with purchase location, date, region (US,JAP,EUR,AUS, etc.) and that will help.

[winter]

LE = Europe
LU = United States
LJ = Japan
LA = (Americas?) (Asia?)


Unfortunately my Wii is 150 miles away and I won't see it until Sunday. Hopefully by then all this will be sorted out; but for the record, I bought mine at Circuit City on the recent relaunch sunday (January 21st) and fall into driftin8ez's and graveman2000's catagory with the RVL S WC USZ and barcode 45496880019 only my serial is LU105xxxxx[8] instead of their LU30637XXX[4]


My Hypothesis is like M37R01D's in that these codes probably have little to do with what chip is inside. I'm guessing that Panasonic wasn't prepared for the unexpected demand for the Wii and Nintendo had to contract out another chip manufacturer to keep up with production demands.

[RaGe517]

Hey all, long time browser, first time poster. I have found myself coming here for the latest wii news since it started. Wanted add that got a wii on January 24th, 2007. Serial Number: LU50853xxxx with a 2 in the last box. It has the "new" D2B unfortunately.
sucks for me cause I already preordered the cyclowiz. I put in a cancel for it, but its suppose to ship tomorrow. I hope they get it in time...

heres a link to a pic of mine..
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/RaGe517/0207071916.jpg

[coadyj]

Same here, uk. Bought early Jan.
whats the serial. Did you get it in argos by any chance?

i have LET1053 and hoping its good, screwdriver due in post tommorrow so i will post details, Hope its not, ive ordered the chip

[gboshort]

LE = Europe
LU = United States
LJ = Japan
LA = (Americas?) (Asia?)


Unfortunately my Wii is 150 miles away and I won't see it until Sunday. Hopefully by then all this will be sorted out; but for the record, I bought mine at Circuit City on the recent relaunch sunday (January 21st) and fall into driftin8ez's and graveman2000's catagory with the RVL S WC USZ and barcode 45496880019 only my serial is LU105xxxxx[8] instead of their LU30637XXX[4]


My Hypothesis is like M37R01D's in that these codes probably have little to do with what chip is inside. I'm guessing that Panasonic wasn't prepared for the unexpected demand for the Wii and Nintendo had to contract out another chip manufacturer to keep up with production demands.

The barcode with the number 45496880019 is the UPC code and will tell you nothing about what is inside except what version Wii you are purchasing (US, Eur, Jap, Aus).

As for the the LA prefix, it is probably Asia or Australia.

[p0tsm0ke]

i picked up a LU30XXXX box the other day and its a DMS chip

[Vixen]

Europe

GC2 - DMS or GC2R - D2A
- LEH 100XXXXX
- LEH 101XXXXX
- LEH 102XXXXX
- LEH 103XXXXX
- LEH 104XXXXX
- LEH 107XXXXX
- LEH 108XXXXX
- LEH 109XXXXX

GC2R - D2B
- LEH 109XXXXX
- LEH 109225XX
- LEH 1100XXXX
- LEH 1104XXXX

If it is at all possible to use the serial number to identify the DVD chip, then for European models it seems the D2B was introduced somewhere in the LEH 109XXXX number range.


North America

GC2 - DMS or GC2R - D2A
- LU 100XXXXXX
- LU 103XXXXXX
- LU 104XXXXXX
- LU 1050XXXXX

- LU 303XXXXXX
- LU 304XXXXXX
- LU 305XXXXXX

- LU 503XXXXXX
- LU 505XXXXXX
- LU 5074XXXXX


GC2R - D2B
- LU 1054XXXXX

- LU 3072XXXXX

- LU 50853XXXX

Added some North-American numbers. It seems there are three different ranges (LU1/LU3/LU5). Perhaps each range is used in a different region or maybe a language pack.
Anyway, each range will reach a number where the D2B is introduced.

Forget about the purchase date or the number in the box.
It seems the serial number holds the key to knowing if you have the incompatible D2B chip or not.

SaRaH

[dr-mephesto]

My wii was purchaced in late January, a LEH108XXX... its a DMS!!! yeah!

[Xenogears V]

Tnx fo the news, it is worthwhile to scatter the voice!.:rolleyes:

[rvvisse]

Vixen.... awesome post. You might have figured it out!

[luckylukenl]

received 2 more pal wii's today:

LEH1076****5 = DMS
LEH1101****6 = D2B

[driftin8ez]

Looks like vixen has nailed it.

[jaapie18]

Does the wiinja or other modchips also have the chipset problem?

[Jester2000]

I got my wwi on launch day in UK (8th Dec)
Serial no.LEH103..... with 0 as last digit
If I've got time i'll open up tonight and post results

[apexi350z]

I got my wwi on launch day in UK (8th Dec)
Serial no.LEH103..... with 0 as last digit
If I've got time i'll open up tonight and post results

If you purchased in Dec. most likely you will have the DMS. It's the newer one that has the D2B. (mid January). At least this is what I've been read.

[Jester2000]

Tried to open it, no luck (have to get a triwing screwdriver !!!) got all the screws out except the two black one under the front cover (what do they do them up with ?? a hammer drill !) anyway I have a theory on these different chips.
Maybe the first lot of chips supplied (DMS) worked fine then Nintendo discovered that they could be bypassed and went back to the drive supplier and demanded a revised chip (D2A) and so it went into production. Then they discovered that this too was able to be bypassed and wanted a third revision of the chip (D2B).

My point is that maybe on the first two chips Nintendo cant patch them via an update so all drive chips from now on will not be able to be bypassed by current methods. If that is the case we wont see anything from Nintendo to try and combat cyclowiz or wiinija because the user base for these first/second production run of Wii's will be quite small.

Kinda like PSP 1.5 firmware (without the patching!)

Maybe the original Wii's will rise in price on ebay!!!!

I'll sell mine now for £1000 any takers ?!?!

[apexi350z]

Tried to open it, no luck (have to get a triwing screwdriver !!!) got all the screws out except the two black one under the front cover (what do they do them up with ?? a hammer drill !) anyway I have a theory on these different chips.
Maybe the first lot of chips supplied (DMS) worked fine then Nintendo discovered that they could be bypassed and went back to the drive supplier and demanded a revised chip (D2A) and so it went into production. Then they discovered that this too was able to be bypassed and wanted a third revision of the chip (D2B).

My point is that maybe on the first two chips Nintendo cant patch them via an update so all drive chips from now on will not be able to be bypassed by current methods. If that is the case we wont see anything from Nintendo to try and combat cyclowiz or wiinija because the user base for these first/second production run of Wii's will be quite small.

Kinda like PSP 1.5 firmware (without the patching!)

Maybe the original Wii's will rise in price on ebay!!!!

I'll sell mine now for £1000 any takers ?!?!

yeah, those two small black triwing screws are a b1tch to take out.. I almost stripped one of them! ordered the triwing on ebay, but just can't wait since I need to find out what chip I have before I open them to install my Cyclowiz chip. Glad I got the DMS chip!

I think you may be correct on the Nintendo changing chips, usually the mfg. doesn't change chip unless they have a very good reason to. So maybe they find out they can be modified, and from reading the current X360 hacking method, so they want to make sure their chip can not be hacked.. That's why they are on 3rd version..

[Memphis2k]

I posted a previous thread in here with all my info but i bought mine on 1/21/07 I have a DMS. I know Target was stock piling them for a while. Because they had 42 of them sold before the store opened and I got mine. Last confirmed day they sold them was on 12/17/06. Might have been days they got them since then, but I can't confirm.

[felixm477]

how about we tart a repository or a wiki for the serials since as this thread gets larger it will be a mission to go thru every page to get any info

[Ev06]

Europe

GC2 - DMS or GC2R - D2A
- LEH 100XXXXX
- LEH 101XXXXX
- LEH 102XXXXX
- LEH 103XXXXX
- LEH 104XXXXX
- LEH 107XXXXX
- LEH 108XXXXX
- LEH 109XXXXX

GC2R - D2B
- LEH 109XXXXX
- LEH 109225XX
- LEH 1100XXXX
- LEH 1104XXXX

If it is at all possible to use the serial number to identify the DVD chip, then for European models it seems the D2B was introduced somewhere in the LEH 109XXXX number range.


North America

GC2 - DMS or GC2R - D2A
- LU 100XXXXXX
- LU 103XXXXXX
- LU 104XXXXXX
- LU 1050XXXXX

- LU 303XXXXXX
- LU 304XXXXXX
- LU 305XXXXXX

- LU 503XXXXXX
- LU 505XXXXXX
- LU 5074XXXXX


GC2R - D2B
- LU 1054XXXXX

- LU 3072XXXXX

- LU 50853XXXX

Added some North-American numbers. It seems there are three different ranges (LU1/LU3/LU5). Perhaps each range is used in a different region or maybe a language pack.
Anyway, each range will reach a number where the D2B is introduced.

Forget about the purchase date or the number in the box.
It seems the serial number holds the key to knowing if you have the incompatible D2B chip or not.

SaRaH

If you have got it right, then I am lucky, as I bought my UK Wii last weekend and it's LEH1089.

Haven't got a triwing yet, so haven't taken it apart, but will do soon, now there is some hope :D

[Paranoiddd]

will there be any hope for D2B owners? is this just an updated chipset that the creators had not foreseen, or is it a serious obstacle?

[robotechpilot]

Serial # LU306 [4]
Purchased Feb 7, 2007
EBGAMES

GC2-DMS!!! :) :)

[hollowpnt]

My serial number isn't listed, but it looks like a strong possibility that my Wii has a GC2R - D2B :( Can anyone confirm or deny this?

my serial is:

LU 1052XXXXXX

[winter]

My serial number isn't listed, but it looks like a strong possibility that my Wii has a GC2R - D2B :( Can anyone confirm or deny this?

my serial is:

LU 1052XXXXXX


You might still be ok, but as for me, if this list proves true, I'm skrewed...LU1056. At least I didn't order the damn chip yet.

[corsasri]

well i got my tri-wing screwdriver in the post today. once removing the screws i now found out that i have a DMS chip. so now i wait for my chip to come. already fitted the on off switch to the case just above the rear usb ports (fits great loads of room) will be fitting the cyclowiz chip as anyone got any pics of how to install useing wires and where to locate the chip will be great (maybe maxconsole can take some pics)
my seril number is LEH1051**13 WITH A DMS CHIP

[luckylukenl]

LEH1085****6 = Dms
LEH1062****7 = Dms

[apexi350z]

well i got my tri-wing screwdriver in the post today. once removing the screws i now found out that i have a DMS chip. so now i wait for my chip to come. already fitted the on off switch to the case just above the rear usb ports (fits great loads of room) will be fitting the cyclowiz chip as anyone got any pics of how to install useing wires and where to locate the chip will be great (maybe maxconsole can take some pics)
my seril number is LEH1051**13 WITH A DMS CHIP

got any pics of the switch mounted? very interested to see it.

[corsasri]

the pic of my switch for use with a cyclowiz chip
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/TK3312/DSC00312.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/TK3312/DSC00311.jpg

[temporary_user]

the pic of my switch for use with a cyclowiz chip


:eek:


WOW, that looks so professional!!


Would you mind on writing a tutorial how to do that switch?? :)

[leboo]

nevermind.

[Loco001]

just dremel a hole in the wii over the USB port, install the wires to there..if u open the wii u find easy ways to get the cables there.

[ej76623]

I have 2 wii's:
1.) LU506XXXXX [0]
2.) LU506XXXXX [3]

Both USA bought on Jan 7.

I haven't opened it to check what chip it has since there's 1 tri-wing screw on the bottom middle.

[Zak]

I opened my Wii just to find out that this post is inaccurate:
Serial is LEH10889XXX6.
According to the chart, I shouldn't have a D2B-Chipset. However the chip is clearly labeled GC2-D2B.

It looks different than the screenshots (http://www.teamcyclops.com/chipsets.jpg), for example it has no Panasonic label. I took a picture in case anyone is interested but I guess its just the same chip without the label.

So in conclusion: some late LEH108XXXXX6 are indeed D2B. Sucks to be me.

EDIT: Bought a few days ago, I don't see how that matters though.

[dirtyweasel]

Where can I order the tri-wing screwdriver for Wii?

[Zak]

Try eBay, if you don't find tri-wing screwdrivers search for Gameboy or GBA screwdriver, it's the same.

[kneehighspy]

well i'm hoping the cyclowiz is a decent solution, i just got my order shipment details from foundmy.com and got my shipment tracking number, so i'll have one early next week.

as long as it works as advertised, i'll be pleased.

[gboshort]

I opened my Wii just to find out that this post is inaccurate:
Serial is LEH10889XXX6.
According to the chart, I shouldn't have a D2B-Chipset. However the chip is clearly labeled GC2-D2B.

It looks different than the screenshots (http://www.teamcyclops.com/chipsets.jpg), for example it has no Panasonic label. I took a picture in case anyone is interested but I guess its just the same chip without the label.

So in conclusion: some late LEH108XXXXX6 are indeed D2B. Sucks to be me.

EDIT: Bought a few days ago, I don't see how that matters though.

"This post" is titled 'Cyclowiz not compatible.......'

Assuming your reference is to the table assembled and updated by Vixen, THAT post is not innacurate, it's incomplete. Your finding a D2B in a range of SNs thought to be safely in the D2A or DMS camp is unfortunate, but nothing more than another data point.

The chart is not (yet) the end all definitive resource for determining your Wii chipset. I personally believe it's a great start in understanding more about the manufacturing process of the Wii (similar to the multiple factories and production runs for the original Xbox).

Your info will undoubtely be added to the data in the table and help in providing more details about the relationship between SN and chipset.

But it's not innacurate....

[p1nky]

my LEH 10924xxx7 from amazon.de from last week = D2B :( :mad: :(

[coadyj]

Well I got my Triwing today and opened it up

I have a LEH1053xxxxxx which i notice is not in you list
it was a DMS.

Well the scary part was putting it back together. Even though im maticuluse about where everything goes (I even draw diagrams), My heart went still when i plugged it in and there was no light. turned out it was just the plug was not in properly.

Anyway, i hope this helps your compatibily list

it seems that DB2 came in sometime around the very late LEH1089

Im sure all you people who have a DB2 you will get a new chip in a couple of weeks, maybe even a softmod hack

[tbcsheldon]

I don't know how many people are still checking this thread, but...

I got my cyclowiz 2 days ago, and I had a D2B chip set, but i didn't worry, because I got the V2. Team Cyclops released a new chip to support D2B and the playing of imports on different region systems. I ordered mine from modchipstore.com. Others might be interested to know, wiinja also has a new version out which supports D2B.

I've also heard people complaining about which games might not be compatible with cyclowiz. I can tell you that I've tested over 40 games so far (i work at K-mart, so i get games for a good price) and every single one works fine.