View Full Version : New Modchip: qoob
Basta
03-23-2005, 11:09 AM
qoob PRO feature set
+ Direct boot of all media, without swapping!
+ Supports all regions PAL / USA / JAP
+ On-board MP3 Player included
+ Super easy USB upgrade system (USB transfer cable included)
+ DVD Disc upgradeable
+ Network(*) upgradeable
+ Bios selection/control supported
+ Supports all retail hardware (DOL-001 USA, JPN, EUR and DOL-101)
+ Fastboot of original discs
+ Compatible with "GCOS" and other IPL replacements, allowing homebrew development via SD card (**) and/or network (*)
+ Comfortable easy to use Windows PC flash software (in download section)
+ Supports homebrew and open-source coding
+ Integrated media compatabilty check (checks all sectors of inserted media)
+ Streaming Audio Fix
+ Integrated status LED
+ Easy Installation, only 6 wires (no soldering on qoob chip required, special cable included)
+ Multicolor graphical user interface for easy operation additional product image
+ Supports Mini/DVD-R, Mini/DVD+R
+ 16MBit on-board Flash to store homebrew applications
+ High secure - low power Actel FPGA
+ Packed in a stable carboard box including all wires, 3D Sticker and USB transfer cable
Modchips looks really good, no swap anymore, seems like this will be the best modchip out now.
http://www.qoobchip.com/
hey_suburbia
03-23-2005, 11:20 AM
Looks awesome, I installed the viper about two months ago, so I'm going to have to stick with that for now.
nonzero
03-23-2005, 11:25 AM
Should be very impressive if it can deliver all that it promises...As it is I'm fine with my DRE free Viper setup at the moment :D
badbadtz
03-23-2005, 11:31 AM
Looks very professional, I'm impressed. And if you look in the downloads section, you can see they have a media player planned too...
Wonder what the difference between PRO and SX versions will be though.
Nintendo
03-23-2005, 11:45 AM
I´ve a viperGC on my GC installed but i will shure buy this modchip and installed if it really has all that features.
no doubt about it.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 11:48 AM
ahh this is the reason why I have three gamecubes...this and the HDD|IDE adapter will be the perfect solution for the two that I've done nothing with yet...looking forward to seeing what this bad boy sells for and how well it works :)
Almighty_Peanut
03-23-2005, 11:52 AM
this better not be a sick april fools day joke. i just changed my jockeys.
Excellent news , I Can't wait to see this new mod - at last some decent competition and not some cheap knock off clone :)
The features it boasts are truly next generation!
Hectic
03-23-2005, 11:59 AM
yeah this think kicks ass. fixes audio streaming problems! direct boot! hopefully it's DRE free also. could be that disc read errors have to do with swapping discs and if so..theoretically, this would fix it.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 12:00 PM
With the USB connector, maybe it will allow a USB drive to be connected? ;)
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 12:00 PM
Dang, this looks awesome. I wonder what the cost of it is going to be?
If it is about the same as the Viper GC, I'll wait for a review of it, and might get this to replace my Viper. I am pretty satisfied with my Viper at the moment, but no swap sure would be nice along with some of the other features.
Edit: I just sent an email to them about the price, We'll see what they say.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 12:12 PM
Gamefreax already has the items on their site (preorder).
70 EUR for the PRO
50 EUR for the SX
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by tX_ram
Gamefreax already has the items on their site (preorder).
70 EUR for the PRO
50 EUR for the SX
Gamefreax over charges, we need a USA website like divineo.com to sell them.
Monkey
03-23-2005, 12:23 PM
Nice. Already got a viper 2 or so months ago , but if this is true and confimred no swap and audio fix by people. Then I gotta say the viper is coming out my machine for this.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Xboxmodder999
Gamefreax over charges, we need a USA website like divineo.com to sell them.
Very true. The Viper was approx $70 USD on Divineo when it was 70 EUR on Gamefreax so perhaps the same will hold true for the qoob.
magrozo
03-23-2005, 12:26 PM
this really looks good! :eek:
Artlover
03-23-2005, 12:28 PM
I think I wet myself.
I knew 2nd gen direct boot mod chips were just around the corner. :)
I'll definatly be buying one. Not going to do a pre-order thing tho. I'll wait till some physical stock exists first.
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 12:29 PM
Anyone know how I would go about informing Divineo of this modchip?
mizunoX
03-23-2005, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Xboxmodder999
Gamefreax over charges, we need a USA website like divineo.com to sell them.
Divineo is Canadian, but you are right that we should check with them when they get it.
I'd sell my viper for this one..
Fire_Eyes
03-23-2005, 12:49 PM
This is very good news indeed, I'm glad I didn't buy a viper yet and just stuck with my good ol' BBA. If this thing really has all the features they write about this thing is gonna pwn Viper!:D
The low memory count is a shame tho, cause 2 MB is not much, but better than 128 kb...
NeoFotis
03-23-2005, 12:53 PM
All of these newer chips are attaching to the cube with more connections than the viper does, I wonder if this will hinder the ablity of the viper to ever be direct boot.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by NeoFotis
All of these newer chips are attaching to the cube with more connections than the viper does, I wonder if this will hinder the ablity of the viper to ever be direct boot.
Doesn't it have the same amount of wires as the viper? (if you don't include the 5 volts)
justinkb
03-23-2005, 01:09 PM
april fools joke.
'compatible with gcos' in feature list, makes no sense really if u think about it:rolleyes:
further reading @ http://www.dextrose.com/_forum/showthread.php?threadid=10443
a rather old (1+ month) thread talking about a chip called QOOB.
furthermore, there is no such thing as mini-DVD+R, so that supposed feature is also bullshit.
richy_2k
03-23-2005, 01:25 PM
If this modchip is for real I wonder how the direct boot works. I wonder if it's just software, which in theory could be incorporated into the cobra or gcos bios?.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 01:27 PM
it could easily be compatible with GCOS...why not give users an option of which BIOS they wish to run? Perhaps the mini dvd+r is a typo or a geniune mistake.
why would gamefreax have this on their website if it wasn't real...also it's out at the end of april, bit of a late april fools joke isnt it, seeing as how the new's is before april 1st and it's out after april 1st...
I just like to leave my mind open, i'd love for this to be a real modchip, it would definatly open the gates for even more modchips in the future.
Plus, the point about it being direct boot and the viper isnt. I would like to think that the viper had the capabilities but this modchip has a more hardware on it, OK some are USB controllers and possibly memory but still, there's more there than the viper.
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 01:28 PM
You make some good points there, but in the thread there was a "clone chip" called the qoob chip was apperently just a clone of the Viper chip but with usb. Maybe they were just supplying them to the local modchip installers, but now they want to go public. They could have changed the name to goob, and then added all the extra features to the chip.
Oh, and the mini dvd+r thing could just just be a typo.
justinkb
03-23-2005, 01:30 PM
@shangrula:
you chose to ignore the link to the dextrose thread?
in case you haven't clicked it, it talks about someone in Sweden who had seen a gamecube modchip named QOOB for sale in a store over a month ago. if it was for sale with those features in february, don't you think some more information about it would have popped up before now?
lol:(
ps. about the mini-dvd+r thing being a typo, it's rather doubtful they just accidently pressed the m, i, n, i and / keys innit? i'm sure all of you are really hoping this to be true, but i looked at it 3 min and saw too many things that just didn't add up. but go ahead, keep up your hopes ;o
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 01:39 PM
It very well could be fake, but it could just as easily be real, We'll just have to wait and see. Oh, and did you read the first part of my above post?
shangrula
03-23-2005, 01:40 PM
yeah I like to think I can, lol
I checked the dextrose thread, tbh I don't know what to make of it, I just hope they are mistakes on the site becuase i'd like for it to be real.
edit, yeah xboxmodder, i agree with you, I read the dextrose thing a while ago and thought nothing of it becuase it just sounded like someone made a clone of the viper but as they had the same name 'qoob' perhaps they were early versions only available to them...but that makes no sense.
I dont know what to make of it, I wasn't intentionally try to disproove anything u said, sorry I gave that impression.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 01:45 PM
Qoob Chip aka Cube Modchip. Swedish slang?
Besides, I don't even see it online anymore.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by tX_ram
It's not a clone of the viper. It IS the viper. Qoob Chip aka Cube Modchip. Swedish slang.
you're not a super advanced member for nothing...unlike me u know stuff :)
thanks for pointing that out.
justinkb
03-23-2005, 01:49 PM
wow, i had no idea my viper had some sort of USB interface. -_- can you point me to it please? oh wait, nevermind, you're talking out of your ass, sorry :p
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by shangrula
you're not a super advanced member for nothing...unlike me u know stuff :)
thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry I reworded my post. I remembered reading the dextrose post a while back but then started doubting my memory. I can't remember if it said 'qoob multi-x' or 'qoob chip'.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by justinkb
wow, i had no idea my viper had some sort of USB interface. -_- can you point me to it please? oh wait, nevermind, you're talking out of your ass, sorry :p
Can you provide me the link to the viper with the usb?
shangrula
03-23-2005, 01:58 PM
that one reseller still have the Viper listed at the Multi-X chip but then it's viper when you actually go into the section. I thought that's what all this was about?
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 01:59 PM
There never was a link, the guy on dextrose said that the shop was selling viper clones w/ USB, but that it wasn't on the site.
Artlover
03-23-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by justinkb
in case you haven't clicked it, it talks about someone in Sweden who had seen a gamecube modchip named QOOB for sale in a store over a month ago. if it was for sale with those features in february, don't you think some more information about it would have popped up before now?
I see nothing on that link other then people who don't actually know anything about it making assumptions. Kinda of like what happens here alot. You yourself seem to be assuming that the chip that thread talks about is the same as this one. Interesting position to hold since no one has actually seen one of those chips to know if this is the case or not.
I'm sure this doesn't need to be pointed out, but opinionated assumptions don't replace facts. So how about we all stop trying to play expert and wait to see how this plays out.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Xboxmodder999
There never was a link, the guy on dextrose said that the shop was selling viper clones w/ USB, but that it wasn't on the site.
Somebody posted the link to the chipper.se site that did show something but it's no longer there. I honestly don't believe that anybody can go through ALL the trouble of creating step by step instructions with images, a uniquely designed website, somewhat uniquely designed PCB with a USB controller, and a unique sticker :) just to pull an Aprils Fools joke that is a week early. It's not worth it to even the least laziest person in the world.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 02:07 PM
well the guy on dextrose says:
"USB-port for connection to PC, 2MB memory and mediaplayer, copy games to PC and burn them on mini dvd-r"
so it makes me think that becuse they didn't say 'direct boot' it's just a coincidence and not related. Qoob is wierd but as pointed out it's sweedish slang, so just becuase it sounds odd to some it's perfectly normal to many others, especially sweedish chip makers and sweedish chip fakers.
or am I wrong on this...I would've thought that the dexrose thread wasn't related to this?
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 02:11 PM
Who knows.. but I don't think it matters. When it comes out, justinkb can buy us all beers ;)
Shangrula: I reworded my post to say "Swedish slang?"
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 02:12 PM
I honestly don't believe that anybody can go through ALL the trouble of creating step by step instructions with images, a uniquely designed website, somewhat uniquely designed PCB with a USB controller, and a unique sticker just to pull an Aprils Fools joke that is a week early. It's not worth it to even the least laziest person in the world.
I'm thinking the same thing. It's a very nice site, and it would take way to much time just for a April Fools joke.
rivlez
03-23-2005, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by tX_ram
Can you provide me the link to the viper with the usb?
like a month ago i saw that post on dextrose forums and i did see the picture of the viper with the USB as for as i saw the this viper with usb DOES exist.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by tX_ram
Shangrula: I reworded my post to say "Swedish slang?"
I see now :( d'oh!
either way I do agree that this site looks professional, they have a lot of good, convincing info there.
and yeah the mini dvd+ rcould be a typo,,,,not all modchip makers can make a website...viper for example lol
mangueboy
03-23-2005, 02:27 PM
To Shadowsan.
I was thinking that to delivery no swap feature, one modchip have to modify matshushita firmware. If is true that qoob chip can make this , without take control of the GC drive and the wire connection are the same of RIPPER GC, then there are any way of make it with pure assembly routine. What you think about?
whackawookie
03-23-2005, 02:55 PM
maybe team cobra will offer a wire replacement for there chip. seeing as how somebody in a post before pointed out to me that there are infact many empty pin spots on the chip not being used. thats considering the chip isnt a hoax
A.Z.BEST
03-23-2005, 02:58 PM
If I will get known that this chip fully supports 2 disc games, than I'm selling my Vipered cube, and buying this **** and a new Cube :}. Damn!
Oscar Mopperkon
03-23-2005, 03:00 PM
PS2NFO did announce a no-swap modchip, so I think this is the one!
And I just ordered the Max Drive Pro.... :(
A.Z.BEST
03-23-2005, 03:09 PM
Cancel your order. What's the problem with that :)?
Oscar Mopperkon
03-23-2005, 03:13 PM
It's already been dispatched! But I can live with a swap, and as for now this chip is only anounced, it's not out yet.
tempest
03-23-2005, 03:25 PM
Sounds well, like EVERYTHING we could ask for.
Oh wait that sounds too good to be true:D
I just don't know the web site, it just doesn't seem right. And like someone said April fools is just around the corner.
I hope I am wrong, somebody bump this thread on April 1st;)
Artlover
03-23-2005, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by whackawookie
maybe team cobra will offer a wire replacement for there chip. seeing as how somebody in a post before pointed out to me that there are infact many empty pin spots on the chip not being used. thats considering the chip isnt a hoax
I think I might have been that guy who mentioned the unused pins on the viper.
Any who. I'm giving this the benefit of the doubt. Tho to be completely honest, I'm torn between knowing two things that individualy hold water, but yet dont mesh with each other.
I too wonder about the no-swap claim because I know this relates to the BCA barcode and that is a function of the dvd drive itself and is not related to the GC or it's bios in any way, so I just can not see how this chip, with only one additional bios chip wire then the viper would beable to do no-swap. If it was that easy, Ripper and Ninja could do it to. But at the same time, the Qoob is being pre-sold by a legitimate company and both them and the home page state flatout that it's no-swap AND a certain website had mentioned a month ago about an upcomming no-swap chip.
We just don't know yet, and won't till somthing happens with regards to this. All we can do is wait.
CountZer0
03-23-2005, 04:34 PM
Just wanted to point out that you can get Mini-DVD+R. At least here in Sweden. One guy got em custom-made from a factory. I've just ordered 20 of em.
ammerzoden
03-23-2005, 04:42 PM
CountZer0--> looks like a qooper:D
justinkb
03-23-2005, 06:06 PM
i know i'm right about it being an april fools joke ;p you'll see; poor guys, i can barely comprehend the disappointment you all will feel. btw, the point of a good april fools joke is making it convincing (which they have done). the built in mp3 player was a dead giveaway tho, i mean, are you gonna put the mp3s on your flash memory, memory card, dvd? no one is gonna turn on their gamecube to listen to music, but, guess what, to play games ;o mp3 player for a console without a harddisc = silliness - lets all burn minidvd's with mp3's on em, that we can only play on our modded gamecube and is useless for anything else! no.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 06:11 PM
but it has a media player...obviously it may accept DVD data but it'll be a network thing. custom GCOS can already navigate their way through a PC's discs and folders, what's to stop it having the ability to load the file up and play it, especially something as universal as MP3?
as for it being april fools, it may well be, as www.qoobchip.com is registered in Alabama
why would a US chip maker be selling on gamefeax first? GF is a German/European site...this is getting fishy.
justinkb
03-23-2005, 06:15 PM
err, do you realize what you're suggesting? you want to stream MP3 files from your PC to your GameCube, to be able to listen to the MP3 playing from your TV? please, reflect on that thought of yours and realize it's the stupidest thing you've ever said. if you do not realize its stupidity please shoot yourself.
in case you don't get it, ill give you a hint - starts with a w, ends with inamp.
Oscar Mopperkon
03-23-2005, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by CountZer0
Just wanted to point out that you can get Mini-DVD+R. At least here in Sweden. One guy got em custom-made from a factory. I've just ordered 20 of em.
Good for you.... A couple of years ago 8cm DVD+R was announced, but as far I know it's never been made. I don't think it's a problem to make them, since it's just the same disc as a normal disc but then smaller. Let's hope that Verbatim will see that many people want 8cm DVD+R and that they will make them.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 06:19 PM
I personally wouldn't use it but by looking at threads on media players for the GC streaming seemed to be the best solution.
Also cat5 can go >30 Meters, what if you live in a big house with the PC and GC far apart, how would u run cables through that, or a AV sender...i'd rather use a network cable or wireless. fortunatly my GC sits on top of my PC but not everyone's does.
Also it's hardly the main feature of the chip is it? they are just saying that's A feature...
why all the agro anyway.
dildo
03-23-2005, 06:23 PM
i think someone got upset because he did buy a vipergc too quick :D
Hectic
03-23-2005, 06:24 PM
umm, april fools jokes are played on april 1st, not march 23rd. justin's a moron. would be a lame april fools joke anyway, cube is hacked no matter what.
rivlez
03-23-2005, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by justinkb
err, do you realize what you're suggesting? you want to stream MP3 files from your PC to your GameCube, to be able to listen to the MP3 playing from your TV? please, reflect on that thought of yours and realize it's the stupidest thing you've ever said. if you do not realize its stupidity please shoot yourself.
in case you don't get it, ill give you a hint - starts with a w, ends with inamp.
wtf is wrong with you? do u got ur period or something why u always so negative? relax yourself
nonzero
03-23-2005, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by shangrula
why all the agro anyway.
Because the general attitude of most people on this board seems to be:
1) ***** about something that hasn't been released.
2) ***** some more about its features/lack therof
3) ***** about <insert this weeks ***** point> once its released
4) ***** about when the next update is going to be released
5) ***** some more about a combination of the above in no particular order
:D
nonzero
03-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Just to add to my previous post - I for one am happy that there is finally a GC Scene to speak of (I didn't really count the BBA days as a scene, per se) and that advances are being made in it.
Take the goodies as they come - enjoy the fruit, don't count the trees.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 06:27 PM
if it's real how can this be no swap booting and the viper/ripper isnt?
would be nice to know the secret :)
rivlez
03-23-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by nonzero
Because the general attitude of most people on this board seems to be:
1) ***** about something that hasn't been released.
2) ***** some more about its features/lack therof
3) ***** about <insert this weeks ***** point> once its released
4) ***** about when the next update is going to be released
5) ***** some more about a combination of the above in no particular order
:D
and yes this is for you justin you negative ****
justinkb
03-23-2005, 06:33 PM
whine more please, i'm not the one that's crying in 2 weeks when it turns out to be what i said it would be. ps. good 'omgwow did you have your period' joke, haven't heard that one ever before - you should pursue a career in standup comedy.
shangrula
03-23-2005, 06:37 PM
well as we have no control what-so-ever we might as well be happy about it...but also at the same time question it.
Just saying 'it doesn`t exist' or 'it`s crap' is totally pointless and a waste of absolutly everything.
nonzero
03-23-2005, 06:40 PM
justinkb - breast feeding issues as a kid? Didn't get enough time at the titty? :D
justinkb
03-23-2005, 06:47 PM
sigh, another flaming comedian.
screw this thread, enjoy your hoax guys, im gonna play a *HOMEBREW* game using my non-imaginary modchip. (oh noes i have to swap for 5 secs before i can play my game for an hour - HAHA :mad: )
ps. nonzero, i'm sure you can think of a nice comeback for me, involving me pointing to your assumed lack of 'time at the titty' AFTER childhood (and i dont mean your moms 'titty')
rivlez
03-23-2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by nonzero
justinkb - breast feeding issues as a kid? Didn't get enough time at the titty? :D
LOL seriously just be happy that stuff happening to the scene not crying because you already bought a viper. if u think this a hoax ur a moron, why would such a reputable company as gamefreax do preorders on lies? go get some more titty maybe that'll mellow u out and not ***** like u got PMS.
tempest
03-23-2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by shangrula
but it has a media player...obviously it may accept DVD data but it'll be a network thing. custom GCOS can already navigate their way through a PC's discs and folders, what's to stop it having the ability to load the file up and play it, especially something as universal as MP3?
as for it being april fools, it may well be, as www.qoobchip.com is registered in Alabama
Administrative Contact:
xxxxx,xxxxx
9999999
AAAAAAAAAAA, aaaaaaaaa 111111
US
phone:0000000000000
do'h for us! someone phone him :)
edit: why would a US chip maker be selling on gamefeax first? GF is a German/European site...this is getting fishy.
Would love to call but no 001 area codes exist in the US. There are only 13 Jasons in the state of AL if someone wants to give it a shot!
Guys it could go eitther way - why fight about it.
I noticed it is posted at PS2CLownz, come on lets admit it if they posted it wouldn't it just be great if it did turn out to be a hoax!:D
nonzero
03-23-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by justinkb
sigh, another flaming comedian.
screw this thread, enjoy your hoax guys, im gonna play a *HOMEBREW* game using my non-imaginary modchip. (oh noes i have to swap for 5 secs before i can play my game for an hour - HAHA :mad: )
ps. nonzero, i'm sure you can think of a nice comeback for me, involving me pointing to your assumed lack of 'time at the titty' AFTER childhood (and i dont mean your moms 'titty')
My point exactly - if this is a hoax, so what? No one has lost anything and the discussion may open up new areas for other chip manufacturers to exploit.
As I stated earlier, the GC scene is great but the overall negativity of some people is irritating. I for one am perfectly happy with my current Viper setup - if something better comes along then I'll ditch my Viper and buy it.
Thats the price you pay for being in the game from the start - If you want a nice finished solution don't get into a scene too early...
Finally, regarding the titty related comeback - I'll think of something particularly snappy and PM it to you :D
shangrula
03-23-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by tempest
Would love to call but no 001 area codes exist in the US. There are only 13 Jasons in the state of AL if someone wants to give it a shot!
Guys it could go eitther way - why fight about it.
I noticed it is posted at PS2CLownz, come on lets admit it if they posted it wouldn't it just be great if it did turn out to be a hoax!:D
if someone calls this guy we'll all know in about 3 minutes...no1 have any access to anything that can get his number? if there's 13 of them are calls cheap enough to phone them all? sorry to be hasseling people but there must be someone who's rather do a quick phone interview and give us a yeah or no rather than all this crap looping around for 1 month+
I agree all this bitching is stupid, when i chiped my xbox i had to solder 31 wires and install a non upgradeable chip in the thing, which it turned out didn't play any games after a few months cos they had to be patched. no one bitched we all said oh well and moved on to gen 2 chips and now great things are happening in the xbox scene, lets wipe our eyes and look to the future positivly
dildo
03-23-2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by tempest
Would love to call but no 001 area codes exist in the US. There are only 13 Jasons in the state of AL if someone wants to give it a shot!
Guys it could go eitther way - why fight about it.
I noticed it is posted at PS2CLownz, come on lets admit it if they posted it wouldn't it just be great if it did turn out to be a hoax!:D
001 is USA international prefix..
molton
03-23-2005, 07:07 PM
I think the reason why this turned into a ***** fest was that justinkb said he thought this was an april fools joke and everybody responded to that with extreme negativity, it is a very real possibilty that this is a hoax, I've seen people go through more trouble for much smaller scale hoaxes. It probably is real, I hope it's real, but who knows.
fogbank
03-23-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Artlover
I too wonder about the no-swap claim because I know this relates to the BCA barcode and that is a function of the dvd drive itself and is not related to the GC or it's bios in any way, so I just can not see how this chip, with only one additional bios chip wire then the viper would beable to do no-swap.
Well if you study the Anaconda DriveCode table code a bit you'll see what I believe are jumps to subroutines in firmware addresses. Look for JSR's to 0x00080000 addresses like:
JSR $0008B126
JSR $0008AE09
etc...
Those should be firmware address.
The Anaconda code uses GC instructions to send instructions to the drive's microcomputer (MN102) using "FE 01 01 00 <memoryoffset> <datalength><data>". The drive's microcomputer can access the firmware addresses.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
tempest
03-23-2005, 07:16 PM
Hey Dildo,
(now that just doesn't sound right!)
count the digits, actually it is 1 short!
obviously a fake number
anyway in the US we write numbers as:
1 123 456-7890, we do not write the country code as 001
and besides its a mobile world so its actually +1
:D
fogbank
03-23-2005, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by mangueboy
To Shadowsan.
I was thinking that to delivery no swap feature, one modchip have to modify matshushita firmware. If is true that qoob chip can make this , without take control of the GC drive and the wire connection are the same of RIPPER GC, then there are any way of make it with pure assembly routine. What you think about?
See my post above.
Artlover
03-23-2005, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by shangrula
as for it being april fools, it may well be, as www.qoobchip.com is registered in Alabama
-removed as per request-
do'h for us! someone phone him :)
edit: why would a US chip maker be selling on gamefeax first? GF is a German/European site...this is getting fishy.
Why do you assume it's a US chipmaker? All this shows is who owns the domain. Doesn't mean they have anything to do with it. He's probably just some guy who sells web/server space or something like that.
tempest
03-23-2005, 07:20 PM
Good point artlover!
fogbank really appreciate the effort to bring the converstion back to the topic!:D
dildo
03-23-2005, 07:21 PM
i dont know how long are US numbers but 001 is usa prefix:
00 stands for a international call
1 is usa region code (how shellfish :rolleyes: )
shangrula
03-23-2005, 07:24 PM
good point artlover...:) (glad ur a member of DF, we had the same discussion over there but I think over there I said it could be the website design team, here I neglected to say, never mind)
Either way as pointed out several times, gamefreax has this available, the only way to test the theory is to order and be patient. In the meantime we should get this guys phone number and ring him (lol) and also talk about how cool this chip will be/how it loads with no swap :) (IMO)
tempest
03-23-2005, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by dildo
i dont know how long are US numbers but 001 is usa prefix:
00 stands for a international call
1 is usa region code (how shellfish :rolleyes: )
Hey now
we did invent the telephone after all!;)
Artlover
03-23-2005, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by fogbank
The Anaconda code uses GC instructions to send instructions to the drive's microcomputer
My understand of it is that the bca barcode check is an independant function of the drive that has to take place as part of it's initialization before it even start communicating openly with the cube. And that what these bios are doing is first interupting the game-boot up proceedure and sending carefully formed drive commands to take some control over motor function without triggering a reset that would cause it to try and reverify the bca to give you time to swap discs and then allowing unencrypted data to be read/loaded.
I don't question that you can't communicate with the drive, but that you can't do so till it's done it's bca thing first. Which would need a hardware mode at the drive level to bypass like PSX/PS2/Sega Saturn and all those systems that also use disc specific protection.
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by tempest
Hey now
we did invent the telephone after all!;)
I thought Alexander Graham Bell invented it :p
shangrula
03-23-2005, 07:40 PM
so the chip could have a connector that fit's into the drive somehow, probably via the main slot that the whole drive fits into the GC motherboard?
Even if it doesn't it's going to be doing something special :)
edit: I thought the `phone was british...
edit AGB was scottish and moved to USA...
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by shangrula
edit AGB was scottish and moved to USA...
Rightio. Moved from Scotland to Ontario then to Boston. He invented the telephone while living in the Boston but he got the idea in Ontario when he used hay and a dead man's ear..... quite strange indeed :)
Xboxmodder999
03-23-2005, 07:49 PM
Like some guy said earlier, I don't think gamefreax would be taking pre-orders on it if it was just an april fools joke. According to Gamefreax, it's coming out next week, so we won't have to wait long to see wether it is real or not.
justinkb
03-23-2005, 07:51 PM
bell was a newbie, marconi pwns him. ;p
tX_ram
03-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Xboxmodder999
Like some guy said earlier, I don't think gamefreax would be taking pre-orders on it if it was just an april fools joke. According to Gamefreax, it's coming out next week, so we won't have to wait long to see wether it is real or not.
Would be a huge blow if it turned out to be a hoax and gamefreax collected all that money from the preorders
shangrula
03-23-2005, 08:05 PM
anyone good at german?
http://www.gamefreax.net/gfboard/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000288
translations (not google) would be awesome, even if to just give the general topic of conversation from GF admin on this new chip :)
justinkb
03-23-2005, 08:10 PM
i can read german perfectly, nothing interesting as far as i can tell. admin hasn't posted in the thread btw. it's just a bunch of guys excited about the no-swap, just like here basically :p and they're talking about whether or not you can flash cobra on it. and how you need to remove the cooler when installing the chip. and how it's only one wire more. like i said, same as here :p
edit: on page two, the admin (i think? Arakon) says people shouldnt speculate and wait for more information and says he will post a big review. until it gets shipped, he doesn't really know a thing about it, like everybody else.
plan-9
03-23-2005, 08:15 PM
this chip almost sounds too good to be true. i wont get excited about it till it comes out.
A.Z.BEST
03-23-2005, 09:58 PM
+ Fastboot of original discs
- Slowboot of backup discs?
It may mean that original discs will boot without any problem, but to boot a backup you'll have to choose some stupid option in the menu, wait 1-3 seconds and then throw the backup in or whatever - the backup will boot after 5-10 seconds after putting it in, cause the drive will have to be patched on the fly and blahblahblah. Not a REAL no swap, safe and easy solution. Eh? And there's nothing about 2 disc games :(. I can't see any reason to change my chip to qoob if it cannot enable playing double disc games, swap isn't so bad and Media Player is a piece of unnecesary ****. I have XBMC on my Xbox and othere media players on pc...
Someone should patch the drives firmware, not only the IPL.
grave
03-23-2005, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by A.Z.BEST
- I can't see any reason to change my chip to qoob if it cannot enable playing double disc games, swap isn't so bad and Media Player is a piece of unnecesary ****. I have XBMC on my Xbox and othere media players on pc...
totally agree
there is a cheat function in cobra 1.0 too
but qoob=cobra team??
plan-9
03-23-2005, 10:57 PM
i for one would love a mediaplayer for the gamecube. i dont own an xbox..and have no plans to ever buy one..so a mediaplayer would be great for the cube. of course..you dont need a completely new modchip just for a mediaplayer.
A.Z.BEST
03-23-2005, 11:16 PM
So buy yourself an Xbox :). I swear that you'll love it - at least as a media player! You can cut my head off if I'm wrong ;). Media player for GCN isn't so good idea, because GCN can oooonly read DVDs and not much more than 1.4GB of the whole disk... Stupid idea with those players ;d.
Vollstrecker
03-24-2005, 02:48 AM
perhaps u can connect an usb-drive to the qoob ...
Oscar Mopperkon
03-24-2005, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by grave
totally agree
there is a cheat function in cobra 1.0 too
but qoob=cobra team??
I don't think that the Cobra team and the Qoob team are the same. Otherwise Ps2nfo would have reported about the qoob, but until now they haven't.
gulliver
03-24-2005, 04:19 AM
personally I'm happy with my viper. I've finally gotten rid of my dres too. I guess I don't get why people think no-swap is such a big deal anyway (I hope I don't get shot for saying that). Seriously, it takes like 5 seconds.
Anyway, it would be good for the GC community if this was real, but I've got to say that since I first heard about it, something just didn't seem right. It seems like it's been too soon for anyone to make such advances with the cube.
Plus the cheat system for cobra should be pretty cool...they're always fun with multiplayer and after you beat a game they add a lot of replay value:)
EVASiON
03-24-2005, 05:21 AM
How about we all stop speculating on whether it's real or not and what functionality it has/has not got.
I can CONFIRM it is real and has excellent features .... now lets get back on track as Evasion said ;)
badbadtz
03-24-2005, 05:35 AM
Looks like they put up installation diagrams for the SX version and Rev C boards on the site now.
Also, I tried to read the bios screen in their downloads section, this is what I managed to make out:
SYSTEM INFO
Device xxxxx
Revision xxxxx
Drive xxx xxxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxxx
OPERATIONS
Original Bios Hold xxx
Original Disc Hold xxx
Boot Menu Hold xxx
Scan Disc Hold xxx (I think)
SYSTEM STATUS
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Please fill in the Xs! seems weird that they have original bios and original disc, but I could be wrong with what I wrote, it was tiny.
Oscar Mopperkon
03-24-2005, 05:54 AM
I'm wondering what the SX version will have less than the Pro version.
Artlover
03-24-2005, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by EVASiON
How about we all stop speculating on whether it's real or not and what functionality it has/has not got.
Aww, but without the people who want to pretend they know everything without actually knowing anything and think that their opinionated assumptions are fact, this place wouldn't be the frustratingly annoying drudgery that it is to visit. :rolleyes:
shangrula
03-24-2005, 06:47 AM
lol artlover :)
looking over the installation diagrams of this chip I'd be interested to know if someone can explain what the additional wire (to the viper) can do in terms of functionality, becuase (maybe i'm being stupid here) does it not hold the key to swap free booting?
Oscar Mopperkon
03-24-2005, 06:54 AM
Just out of curiousity. Why do people want this chip to be fake?
I know it's frustrating when you just ordered the Viper (or the Max Drive Pro, like me) and a new chip is announced, which is going to kick ass.
But if the chip wasn't announced you'd still have the Viper or the Max Drive, your own situation doesn't get worse if this chip is for sale.
nonzero
03-24-2005, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Artlover
Aww, but without the people who want to pretend they know everything without actually knowing anything and think that their opinionated assumptions are fact, this place wouldn't be the frustratingly annoying drudgery that it is to visit. :rolleyes:
<hands Artlover the "Quote of the year" award> :D
Vollstrecker
03-24-2005, 07:58 AM
Arakon of the gamefreax board is telling something about a second noSwap modchip.
dildo
03-24-2005, 09:07 AM
OMG, a second one? by the way looks like SX qoob, wont have usb connection
tX_ram
03-24-2005, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Zeus
I can CONFIRM it is real and has excellent features .... now lets get back on track as Evasion said ;)
We should all look forward to the beer that justinkb will be oweing us ;) I can taste it now..
fogbank
03-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Artlover
My understand of it is that the bca barcode check is an independant function of the drive that has to take place as part of it's initialization before it even start communicating openly with the cube.
I see, that makes sense. So it's not a question of whether the firmware can be patched, but when it can be patched (i.e. after a successful barcode check). I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Thanks for the info.
gulliver
03-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Oscar Mopperkon
Just out of curiousity. Why do people want this chip to be fake?
I know it's frustrating when you just ordered the Viper (or the Max Drive Pro, like me) and a new chip is announced, which is going to kick ass.
But if the chip wasn't announced you'd still have the Viper or the Max Drive, your own situation doesn't get worse if this chip is for sale.
What makes you think people want it to be fake? The only person that seemed like they wanted it to be was justinkb.
I'm not frustrated at all. My viper's working 100% now:) Plus, no one will know if this chip will "kick ass" or not until it comes out. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
skippy911
03-24-2005, 09:15 PM
Any one notice that the pro version uses 5V and the sx version uses ~3V.
dildo
03-24-2005, 09:20 PM
thats because SX wont have USB connection (this one uses 5v) so just need 3v
thats my guess.
tX_ram
03-24-2005, 10:21 PM
American and Canadian Pre-Orders here http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/theclub/foundmy/device/index.htm#QOOB
$65 USD + $8 Shipping
I have absolutely no idea about this seller's rep. Preorder at your own risk.
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 10:52 AM
I've ordered a few xbox chips from that site in the past. Never had a problem
shangrula
03-25-2005, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by dannyboy24
I've ordered a few xbox chips from that site in the past. Never had a problem
humm. This site is beyond amature though and that's your first post.
I would be cautious if you purchase off this site...it doesn't look good to me.
if anyone with any credibility can vouch for it i'd revive my confidence but as it stands this site looks dodgy
molton
03-25-2005, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Oscar Mopperkon
Just out of curiousity. Why do people want this chip to be fake?
I think it just seems that way becuase you want this chip to be real so bad, there's a couple things that leave me feeling like this could be a fake from looking at the ad, completly aside from the fact that april fools is right around the corner, they say it's a soldier free design, how's that possible, it has to bypass the chip the bios comes from to hijack the gamecube's startup like the viper, sounds way to good to be true, also they mention usb connetivity but I don't see any usb ports on that crappy low-res picture they give us, there is one possible usb port on the bottom right hand side, but it deffinetly doesn't look like a USB mini-b port like they mention the qoob uses, it looks like if anything it's a standard usb port, but they show a mini-b cable and mention it, they mention that the size and shape were designed specifically for the gamecube not to block any vents, so it must fit in there perfectly somewhere, I don't see where, they mention being compatible with GCOS and cobra without mentioning the great new software that they would've had to develop for this, and on top of that it seems to good to be true.
...and on top of that we get shady people like dannyboy24 who's first post here ever is a plug vouching for gamefreax, I just don't know, I'd love to get my hands on one of these eventually but I'd hate to see a lot of you taken for a ride... OK some of you I do want to :D
I guess the point I'm trying to make is DON'T PREORDER THIS
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 11:16 AM
The last time I bought something from foundmy.com was about a year ago. I had a question about the xbit I was buying and got a response withing an hour and the shipping was fast. I don't know how good they are with returns, because I've never had to send anything back. So you think the sites a fake, well thats you opinion. It is a good site and I was just statting that my experiance with them been nothing but good.
I wouldn't buy the qoob either, atleast not untill someone can verify that it does all the features that it claims it can do.
Oscar Mopperkon
03-25-2005, 11:22 AM
Now you're telling why you think it is fake. But I get the feeling that some people want it to be fake.
But there are indeed some things about the Qoob that are suspicious. But we will see.
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 11:41 AM
Here's some feedback (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=178548) about foundmy.com from xbox-scene's seller forum.
shangrula
03-25-2005, 11:43 AM
just to set a few things straight,
the Qoob does have a mini USB connector:
http://www.qoobchip.com/images/qoobpro_.jpg
and look here for installation:
http://www.qoobchip.com/gcdisassembly.php
it clearly shows all you should need to see for it to be convincing. THis chip appears to have been produced, either that or they have a very skilled 3D team working on this 'joke'/'scam'
as for purchasing from
http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/theclub/foundmy/device/index.htm#QOOB
I wouldn't touch it with someone else's CC, let alone mine. Gamefreax is totally different, i'd happily preorder from them and as they may be shipping it in just over a wee. In fact I might just do it becuase it would answer a few questions. (GF do a €15 worldwide shipping charge, i'd spend that extra money and know your getting a real product.)
dannyboy, you mention foundmy.com - but before were you not talking about compusmart.ab.ca? either way you look well suspicous to me, as suspcious as the website I mentioned above TBH...but I am not accusing you of anything, it's just you could be anyone from anywhere, it's hard to belive anyone like that.
i'd say the more I know about this chip the more convinced I am it's real. I think i'll just have to sell my GC as I planned and just buy it, this would end some of the speculation wouldn't it?
ccube
03-25-2005, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by molton
they say it's a soldier free design, how's that possible, it has to bypass the chip the bios comes from to hijack the gamecube's startup like the viper, sounds way to good to be true, also they mention usb connetivity but I don't see any usb ports on that crappy low-res picture they give us, there is one possible usb port on the bottom right hand side, but it deffinetly doesn't look like a USB mini-b port like they mention the qoob uses, it looks like if anything it's a standard usb port, but they show a mini-b cable and mention it, they mention that the size and shape were designed specifically for the gamecube not to block any vents, so it must fit in there perfectly somewhere,
The qoob website doesn't say it's solder free, it just says you don't need to solder any wires on to the qoob chip (has premade connector like the viper)
The slightly higher res and angled picture on their website shows a mini usb connector. (can also be seen in their disassembly diagram)
The disassembly diagram on their website shows how it fits in the gamecube, the usb board breaks off the main board to make the main board L shape.
Anyone know what the signals the A and B wires are connected to on the GC P4 connector (A seems to be the same as the viper P point and ripper A point) but neither viper or ripper connect to the qoob B point ?
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 11:58 AM
http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/theclub.../index.htm#QOOB and
http://foundmy.com/
are the same site. I don't know where the compusmart.ab.ca link came from but I've always bought directly from the foundy.com website. The main reason is a live in Sasktachewan so it's really quick shipping.
shangrula
03-25-2005, 12:04 PM
they are the hosting for the site.
just becuase they dont have website design skills it doesn't mean they are legit, but all I am wondering is why they look so dodgy. The x-box forum only has one real crediential towards them and they said that 7 out of 10 chips didn't work but they did replace them after a while.
I would just feel safer using gamefreax, based on how popular they are, but I am also after a bargain...but if I was to order i'd go with GF or wait for someone else to do it cheaper :)
mangueboy
03-25-2005, 12:08 PM
I think that the fact ps2banz have preannounced a noswap modchip and in last 04.03.2004 and gamefreax has now it too, outside the incredible well design web page, make it the more real joke of april´s fools day ever made. I really distrust that viper or another modchip team find out anyway of by pass barcode protect with any assembly subroutine, since qoob chip has same wire connect of ripper gc. If was viper team, then they will make more money delivery another chip and enclypt the new bios with noswap trick , in lieu of inbed it in a viper gc chip that has cobra bios aready decrypt.
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 12:18 PM
Here's a some more feedback (http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26088) about foundy. That xbox one was a bad example, too few posts.
molton
03-25-2005, 01:03 PM
gamefreax probably is ok, I'm just realizing now where I've seen that name before, they sponsor maxconsole. But this might be some kind of mass conspiracy for an april fools joke :D I have much less doubts about this thing now, I hope some of the new features it has will eventually find their way into GCOS, maybe some of these features listed for the qoob are actually features built into cobra 1.0 that it might plan on using with it possibly? If the network mp3 player function works independantly of the qoob and you could stream music during games that'd be awesome, but it'll probably have to be before you play a game in the IPL.
edit: those pictures on the website are much clearer and that deffinetly is a mini-b connector, I should've looked at their website!
shangrula
03-25-2005, 01:04 PM
yes, thank you, that's much better :)
I am sorry about before, but I hope you understand why I was warning people too. but either way, thanks for sharing the info on this site, I do appreciate it.
Perhaps in light of what you've said i'll do my own research on this place and order off them if I am happy. They are $20 cheaper than gamefreax, I just hope they are as reliable :)
as for the whole direct boot thing being made up, perhaps the cobra has the functionality of direct boot too and we just need to wait for a bios or hardware upgrade (which could be as simple as a wire) but I find it odd that the ripper didn't get direct boot for their chip.
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 01:25 PM
No problem shangrula and I do understand why you where sceptical. That being my first post and all.
shangrula
03-25-2005, 01:26 PM
so do u have a chip or are you waiting on this?
and thanks for understanding, it's nice to be understood...:D
edit, dixon, yeah I might order :)
Dixon Butz
03-25-2005, 05:02 PM
Well, I pre ordered one from foundmy. We'll see what happens. Anyone else pre order? Gamefreax shipping was too high.
dannyboy24
03-25-2005, 08:02 PM
Well, I've got to buy a GC first:) then I'm going to wait for some reviews and if everything is good I'm definatly going to get it.
Soulchain
03-30-2005, 02:59 PM
Hey folks
maybe somebody saw my name already in the gfreax forums.. im new there too.
If you ask me the price they have there is way too high so i found another site selling q0obs:
http://www.freakware.de/shop/news.php?wgruppe=&show_artikel=&set_lang=2&dc_menu=true
There is a English Language buttn but it doesnt really work lol
I allready ordered my qoob pro there for 49€ with 3,90€ shipping cause i live in ger but you can buy there via credit card and the shipping cost is 6,90€ makes 57€ and you safed alot of money eh??? :D
Before anybode asks: no im not affiliated or any **** with that page just some normal guy who does not accept gfreax enormous prizes :mad:
Well i hope you can use that nfo
greets :)
Hectic
03-30-2005, 06:38 PM
[i]Before anybode asks: no im not affiliated or any **** with that page just some normal guy who does not accept gfreax enormous prizes :mad:
Well i hope you can use that nfo
greets :) [/B]
yeah, enourmous prizes suck:D
dcp4ever
03-31-2005, 01:12 PM
Sh*t,
too late!!!!
freakware rised the prize to 69,90€ :(
If i had ordered my qoob yesterday.......
Soulchain
03-31-2005, 02:56 PM
omg im so happyyyy ayyy!!!
The stock lamp of the symbol went this morning from yellow to green!
This should mean that the chip is now in stock and ready to ship!
Because i cant wait to know if it is really so i just send a mail to the guys.
If i get an answer ill post it here
EDIT: THE SHOP HAS LOWERED ITS PRICE AGAIN---> 59€!!!
arrarro
04-01-2005, 08:42 PM
Soulchain, It seems to me your store has QOOB Pro in stock, can you confirm that you received the chip? did you do a telephone call to them to ask if their stock is true?
In Italy Qoob chip arrives around 15 of April not before so it seems very strange to me they already sell it...
let me know please
Nick101181
04-02-2005, 12:27 PM
What is the price 59,90 € plus shipping translate into canadian money?
Xboxmodder999
04-02-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Nick101181
What is the price 59,90 € plus shipping translate into canadian money?
I think over $100 canadian.
Soulchain
04-04-2005, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by arrarro
Soulchain, It seems to me your store has QOOB Pro in stock, can you confirm that you received the chip? did you do a telephone call to them to ask if their stock is true?
In Italy Qoob chip arrives around 15 of April not before so it seems very strange to me they already sell it...
let me know please
Well they say it will arrive the next 2 days and then immediately ship! :D
GePiYa
04-04-2005, 03:46 PM
i ordered 3 qoobs there. i hope they are fast and i can play as soon as i can :)
cubenoob
04-04-2005, 07:00 PM
I just talked today with the customer service they told me that they expect the chip to be there on 05.04.05 and shipping is the same day
Soulchain
04-05-2005, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by cubenoob
I just talked today with the customer service they told me that they expect the chip to be there on 05.04.05 and shipping is the same day
AHh nice nfo ! I assume that youre german? so i just say "danke" ;)
GePiYa
04-05-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by cubenoob
I just talked today with the customer service they told me that they expect the chip to be there on 05.04.05 and shipping is the same day
with freakware? :) So we will get the chips on wednesday or thursday
(Juhu, ich freue mich scho =))
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