Play Nintendo 64 (N64) Games On the Nintendo DS Lite.

[CABeachUSA]

Well I've noticed some games for 64 have come out for the DS Lite such as Mario Kart DS and Super Mario 64 DS and others. And some actually have better graphics than the N64 Versions. Is there anyway to play ALL or MOST of Nintendo 64 Games on the DS? I have:

Nintendo DS Lite
MML (Datel)
EZFlash 4 Lite with 1GB MicroSD

If I can do it, what do I have to do?

[FifthE1ement]

Sorry bud, these games which have been released have been completely retooled for the DS. The N64 and DS are quite different although they share the same graphical capabilities. It’s not possible for the DS to emulate the N64 as it just doesn't have enough horsepower under the hood.

There is a emulator for the PSP which allows you to play N64 roms and although it’s a bit rough around the edges right now it’s shaping up to be a reason for me to buy a PSP! Imagine a portable N64 with Perfect Dark and Goldeneye!?

:eek:

FifthE1ement

[CABeachUSA]

Sounds good but 2 things:

What's the modding difference with a PSP? Harder? Easier? Cheaper/More Expensive?

How can I handle having 2 handhelds? I don't want to carry 2. What do people do who have 2?

[FifthE1ement]

Its not hard to mod at all. There are new advances on the PSP everyday and I wouldn't recommend putting in a chip for hombrew unless your a god of modding. The patchers get better day by day allowing you to go back to older versions of the fw.

Its much more expensive as you need a PSP, big ProDuo stick, at least 1 or two games to run the bug for homebrew. You can always buy a premodded one but thats even more expensive. I am a poor mans modder and just do DS. But if they get the N64 emu 100% I'll have to shell out the money for a modded DS. I would pay $300 to Ben Heckendorn for his portable N64 if he'd build me one!

http://benheck.com/Games/Nintendo_projects/N64p/N64p_page1.htm

FifthE1ement

[CABeachUSA]

Well is there anyway to play DS games on a PSP?

[zecht]

Well is there anyway to play DS games on a PSP?

NO. buy a ds like the several millions of other people.

[Retroboy]

NO. buy a ds like the several millions of other people.

they could be, but in years time when a pc ds emu gets running.

people for the psp are simply basing psp emus on old pc emus.

id say it isnt 100% impossible.

and that attitude isnt nice considering emulators out live the origional consoles.

name one person who still plays nes game on the origional nes system, very rare, now look at how many people play nes roms via emulation.........hmmm id say more.

same with all emus really

[gama]

Well is there anyway to play DS games on a PSP?
Where would the touchscreen be? On UMD?

[linkenski]

the NDS is not good as the N64! if you tried Conkers bfd on N64, then you would really think "CRAPPY DS" they made SM64DS look better than SM64. but if sometimes the framerate is very close getting slower! and it was not in the 64 version! and there aren't so many animations in the DS version. i think the DS is the best handheld right now! but it is not good as the N64!:mad:

[Retroboy]

the NDS is not good as the N64! if you tried Conkers bfd on N64, then you would really think "CRAPPY DS" they made SM64DS look better than SM64. but if sometimes the framerate is very close getting slower! and it was not in the 64 version! and there aren't so many animations in the DS version. i think the DS is the best handheld right now! but it is not good as the N64!:mad:

id agree but the reason people beleive this is because nintendo are making it out to be a handheld n64 hence the n64 games being ported to it, Rayman, Ridge Racer and heres the BIG ONE Super Mario 64DS when in fact its nothing to do with the n64 version, its been remade, new charactors, crapper textures.

if it was Super Mario 64 (ported to DS) the graphics/charactor models would be exactly the same.......but theyre not 1) mario DS is hell of alot smaller than the n64 version 2) when you finnished a level and got a star mario would do the peace sign with his hands wich looks like hes telling you to F'Off lol, on the DS he doesnt.

So really the game should be Super Mario DS not Super Mario 64 DS as ive just proven why its not the N64 version your playing, so why have 64 in the name hmmmm maybe nintendo trying to fool y'all that the DS is a handheld n64.

[DoeDill]

there isn't enough processing power to even do a full port of a N64 game, let alone emulate it. the 3d engine just isn't strong enough either.


on the other hand the texture for mario 64 is alot better than the n64 version. The N64 had very little texture and used gouraud shading instead due to limited room. ds games have 2x storage space compared to 64 (128mb vs. 64mb max)

[CABeachUSA]

It's sad that it's the year 2006 and we still can't deal with the N64 easily.

[Retroboy]

It's sad that it's the year 2006 and we still can't deal with the N64 easily.

Its nintendo, cheap to mass produce products, cheaper than PSP price tag, people buy coz its cheap and thats how nintendo make the money.

If sony have made a Portable PS2 (almost PS2 graphics) surly nintendo can make a protable n64.

and again nintendo are doing it with the Wii, but nintendo fans are sooo happy to flame sony for actually giving you something for your money.

Whats the Wii, a slightly powerfuller Xbox, and again put a low price tag (defo lower than 360 and PS3) because it costs next to nothing to make, and when they sell they make easy fast money.

Personally nintendo are going the same way as sega and wont be round for the next gen of consoles.

[DoeDill]

Its nintendo, cheap to mass produce products, cheaper than PSP price tag, people buy coz its cheap and thats how nintendo make the money.

If sony have made a Portable PS2 (almost PS2 graphics) surly nintendo can make a protable n64.

and again nintendo are doing it with the Wii, but nintendo fans are sooo happy to flame sony for actually giving you something for your money.

Whats the Wii, a slightly powerfuller Xbox, and again put a low price tag (defo lower than 360 and PS3) because it costs next to nothing to make, and when they sell they make easy fast money.

Personally nintendo are going the same way as sega and wont be round for the next gen of consoles.

No need for nintendo to make a portable n64. It's about the game, not the system. (just look how bad the psp is doing) Plus 3D games are pretty hard to play on a handheld with such a small screen and such a waste to put incredible graphics on a small screen.

Wii isn't a slightly powerful xbox, full specs aren't even out yet to determine how powerfull it is.
Personally, nintendo is going to be around for a long time. They're playing it smart and targeting a wider demographic than sony or microsoft. That and they're the only company actually making money from their consoles.

[Trip6]

I read about the PSP N64 emu, but it runs like crap and has no sound.

The Xbox 1 can _barely_ emulate N64 games but again, there is sound, but chunky framerates.

I seriously doubt that the DS will have that ability anytime in it's lifespan. Look at current DS SNES support (approx. 5 games)...

[Retroboy]

No need for nintendo to make a portable n64. It's about the game, not the system. (just look how bad the psp is doing) Plus 3D games are pretty hard to play on a handheld with such a small screen and such a waste to put incredible graphics on a small screen.

Wii isn't a slightly powerful xbox, full specs aren't even out yet to determine how powerfull it is.
Personally, nintendo is going to be around for a long time. They're playing it smart and targeting a wider demographic than sony or microsoft. That and they're the only company actually making money from their consoles.

PSP is doing ok, not excellent in japan thats what your basing on, and thats because japan love gadgets hence nintendo having crap powered consoles suped up with gadgety ways of playing them.

And yes the spec are out, theyve been out for ages same with all consoles, the company release its specs for the viewers to see what to expect.

As for wider demographic thats crap if it was they would make consoles for more than kids, look at every game on the GC and DS name a single game that is rated 18 for adults only, theyre isnt but yes theyres the odd mature game which adults would play but nintendo mailny focus on kids games.

at the end of the day the Wii could get up and wipe my arse or fetch me a nice cold can of beer but if its games are like they are now with slightly better graphics i dont care, the PS3 and 360 get my cash because your actually getting something for your cash.

also its taken nintendo 2 attempts to make the DS better and have failed on both, or is it lets see just like the GBA, they released the brick, not long after a slim version, then another and another upto the point that its soo small it takes the piss ohhh and whats this all those whove just paid 99.99 quid for the GBAmicro wont be able to play new games because nintendo are stopping ALL GBA games and want companies to make DS games.

haa sorry guys but youve wasted you money.

nintendo know they cant keep up with its competitors so they make all theyre new consoles sound really impressive with its gadgets, but who cares.

DS tried playing Mario DS in dual hand mode, its a pain, metriod is ok but hell pads are mile better than a pen.

Wii theyre basically making it like a lightgun game, and how many people actually play them now on their console, not many because you tend to go for games that use a pad.

even teh wii pad is crap its a flat snes with analogues.

[outphase]

is there really any point to your Nintendo bashing?

[_Mazza_]

Oh retroboy, in case you haven't realised game don't need blood and gore to make them good games.

If you insist on this some gamecube games are

Resident Evil, Bloody Roar, Def Jam, Mortal Kombat, Die Hard Vendetta, Hitman 2, Hunter:The Reckoning, Killer 7, True Crime, I could go on.

Nintendo only suffered when they released the gamecube, right now they are the top of the console manufacturers. (I have a 360 but there's no denying they've lost loads of money and don't get me started on sony).

[iball]

Well, my Gameboy Micro with EFA Linker II is perfect for GBA games and my DS and DS Lite with FlashMe v7 and Supercard mni-SD take care of the DS side of the house.
So your point, Flameboy, is that you'd rather be insulted by Sony and give them your money than any other company?
Personally, Sony's recent statements towards PSP homebrew and their assinine statements towards gamers in general have pretty made me STOP buying any and all PSP games.
I'll download the ISOs instead.

[galaxykidgamma]

looks like i've been missing out on an interesting thread,

but anyways, here's my $0.02

handheld gaming has always been second to console gaming. why? because handhelds simply can't hold as much as a console. They can't hold as much hardware or software, and their game medium is typically lower in storage space than their console counterparts.

sure it would be nice to have a portable console, but handheld gamers are driven (i'm assuming) primarily by their desire for gaming on the go. So when you're waiting for the bus, or bored in class, who wants to sit down and play through Ocarina of Time? Handheld gaming has evolved alot, and it isn't just about playing a quick game of tetris on the crapper anymore. Especially w/ DS we are seeing games that couldn't possibly have possibly been done previously on a console.

which brings me to my point.

handheld gaming won't be able to surpass console's in power anytime soon, so graphics will generally be poorer, and games will be shorter. This being said, we look to handhelds for a different kind of experience we can't get on a console. Appreciate your DS's for their innovative games. If you want to keep chasing the futile dream of having a handheld as powerful as a console (which would be STUPID anyways) get a PSP. (i don't hate PSP's at all, they are cool and homebrew on them is even cooler,i just hate the majority of games for it)

thx, i didn't mean to offend any1

[DoeDill]

PSP is doing ok, not excellent in japan thats what your basing on, and thats because japan love gadgets hence nintendo having crap powered consoles suped up with gadgety ways of playing them.

PSP isn't doing ok anywhere. their umd movie line just died and there's virtually no new games for it and the rest are just ports from ps2. "Japan loves gadgets", wasn't PSP toted as the ultimate entertainment gadget. so that statement makes no sense

And yes the spec are out, theyve been out for ages same with all consoles, the company release its specs for the viewers to see what to expect.

link? Nintendo never released full specs for Wii. They stated that they want to showcase the game play rather than power, like 360 and PS3, so they never released full specs for it.

As for wider demographic thats crap if it was they would make consoles for more than kids, look at every game on the GC and DS name a single game that is rated 18 for adults only, theyre isnt but yes theyres the odd mature game which adults would play but nintendo mailny focus on kids games.

how is targeting "adults only" a wider demographic? Nintendo has game for all age range, males & females. no other company has that. People into "adults only" won't be playing games but with themselves!

at the end of the day the Wii could get up and wipe my arse or fetch me a nice cold can of beer but if its games are like they are now with slightly better graphics i dont care, the PS3 and 360 get my cash because your actually getting something for your cash.

what are you getting for you cash? most game on 360 are one time deal and there isn't any games for ps3 yet. Oh, blueray movies? look how well UMD movies did. Or maybe you can keep warm in the winter by how much heat they give off.

also its taken nintendo 2 attempts to make the DS better and have failed on both, or is it lets see just like the GBA, they released the brick, not long after a slim version, then another and another upto the point that its soo small it takes the piss ohhh and whats this all those whove just paid 99.99 quid for the GBAmicro wont be able to play new games because nintendo are stopping ALL GBA games and want companies to make DS games.

21 millions in sales is hardly a failure. Look at ipod, now many slim down version have they released? Seriously, you're grabbing at straws here to put down Nintendo/DS

haa sorry guys but youve wasted you money.

PSP owners wasted their money. Check out EBAY, there are more than twice the amount of PSP for sale compared to the DS/DSLite. Most DS are sold so they can get the Lite. What's PSP excuse? I bet is so they can get a Lite as well

nintendo know they cant keep up with its competitors so they make all theyre new consoles sound really impressive with its gadgets, but who cares.

Sound? People tested Wii at E3 and all were impressed. Sony was so impressed it copied their controller, yet no one really cares about the PS3

DS tried playing Mario DS in dual hand mode, its a pain, metriod is ok but hell pads are mile better than a pen.

Mario DS can be play using just the pad

Wii theyre basically making it like a lightgun game, and how many people actually play them now on their console, not many because you tend to go for games that use a pad.

even teh wii pad is crap its a flat snes with analogues.

That's just your opinion. Alot of people are excited about the new controller.


:rolleyes:

[DoeDill]

looks like i've been missing out on an interesting thread,

but anyways, here's my $0.02

handheld gaming has always been second to console gaming. why? because handhelds simply can't hold as much as a console. They can't hold as much hardware or software, and their game medium is typically lower in storage space than their console counterparts.

sure it would be nice to have a portable console, but handheld gamers are driven (i'm assuming) primarily by their desire for gaming on the go. So when you're waiting for the bus, or bored in class, who wants to sit down and play through Ocarina of Time? Handheld gaming has evolved alot, and it isn't just about playing a quick game of tetris on the crapper anymore. Especially w/ DS we are seeing games that couldn't possibly have possibly been done previously on a console.

which brings me to my point.

handheld gaming won't be able to surpass console's in power anytime soon, so graphics will generally be poorer, and games will be shorter. This being said, we look to handhelds for a different kind of experience we can't get on a console. Appreciate your DS's for their innovative games. If you want to keep chasing the futile dream of having a handheld as powerful as a console (which would be STUPID anyways) get a PSP. (i don't hate PSP's at all, they are cool and homebrew on them is even cooler,i just hate the majority of games for it)

thx, i didn't mean to offend any1

you also have to factor in battery power. Faster processor requires alot of power and gives off alot of heat. console don't have that problem since they feed straight from the outlet and use huge heatsinks/fans. Low power processor are expensive and slow to develop as well. It's like a Laptop versus a Desktop.

[galaxykidgamma]

you also have to factor in battery power. Faster processor requires alot of power and gives off alot of heat. console don't have that problem since they feed straight from the outlet and use huge heatsinks/fans. Low power processor are expensive and slow to develop as well. It's like a Laptop versus a Desktop.

Yes, I can't even begin to name all the handhelds that failed because they had s*** battery life. Granted most of those same handhelds had very few games.

Just look at the nomad. That is exactly what people are talking about here, it was a Genesis/Megadrive on wheels after all with like 45 minutes battery life.

[yo_]

well to get back on subject.

N64
CPU: 93.75 MHz
CO-CPU: 62.5 MHz
RAM: 4MB (expansion +4MB)

NDS
CPU: 67 MHz
CO-CPU: 33 MHz
RAM: 4MB (m3 and supercard contain +32MB)

Just look the specs say sure N64 is possible. fun? no
Not to mention way less buttons and no analog control.

EDIT: Hey retroboy you should leave this thread and hit up Target I hear they are trying to get rid of that psp umd S**T.

[DoeDill]

well to get back on subject.

N64
CPU: 93.75 MHz
CO-CPU: 62.5 MHz
RAM: 4MB (expansion +4MB)

NDS
CPU: 67 MHz
CO-CPU: 33 MHz
RAM: 4MB (m3 and supercard contain +32MB)

Just look the specs say sure N64 is possible. fun? no
Not to mention way less buttons and no analog control.

EDIT: Hey retroboy you should leave this thread and hit up Target I hear they are trying to get rid of that psp umd S**T.

nope, not enough power to run a N64 rom and definatly not enough power to emulatate it either (need 2.5x the processor power to emulate it)

[Cyphix]

well to get back on subject.

N64
CPU: 93.75 MHz
CO-CPU: 62.5 MHz
RAM: 4MB (expansion +4MB)

NDS
CPU: 67 MHz
CO-CPU: 33 MHz
RAM: 4MB (m3 and supercard contain +32MB)

Just look the specs say sure N64 is possible. fun? no
Not to mention way less buttons and no analog control.

EDIT: Hey retroboy you should leave this thread and hit up Target I hear they are trying to get rid of that psp umd S**T.

The space on the M3 and the Supercard should not count as ram. It isn't fast enough.

also its taken nintendo 2 attempts to make the DS better and have failed on both

You are an idiot.

[Retroboy]

well to get back on subject.

N64
CPU: 93.75 MHz
CO-CPU: 62.5 MHz
RAM: 4MB (expansion +4MB)

NDS
CPU: 67 MHz
CO-CPU: 33 MHz
RAM: 4MB (m3 and supercard contain +32MB)

Just look the specs say sure N64 is possible. fun? no
Not to mention way less buttons and no analog control.

EDIT: Hey retroboy you should leave this thread and hit up Target I hear they are trying to get rid of that psp umd S**T.

Yea sure, the fact that you dont like the thought that the PSP is powerfuller also is doing better than you think, you need to get over it, the DS is another cheap to make product yet again by nintendo.

Nintendo could have easily put more money into the DS and made it a handheld n64 or even better, but they never because they wanted it to cost them next to nothing to produce and have a low price tag to increase sales therefor making more money.

The DS cant even compare to the PSP, on your DS (fresh out of box) can you play mp3's, store photo's, play home videos or films or even play games that look as good as your ps2............no.

Only reason why i got a ds was free games, if the DS couldnt play roms i would never have got one.

[DoeDill]

Yea sure, the fact that you dont like the thought that the PSP is powerfuller also is doing better than you think, you need to get over it, the DS is another cheap to make product yet again by nintendo.

Nintendo could have easily put more money into the DS and made it a handheld n64 or even better, but they never because they wanted it to cost them next to nothing to produce and have a low price tag to increase sales therefor making more money.

The DS cant even compare to the PSP, on your DS (fresh out of box) can you play mp3's, store photo's, play home videos or films or even play games that look as good as your ps2............no.

Only reason why i got a ds was free games, if the DS couldnt play roms i would never have got one.

PSP is this generations Game Gear.

yeah, nintendo could've put more money and made a portable n64. that way people will have to shell out 300 bux only to play for 2 hrs before the batteries died. Oh wait, Sony beat them to that!

yeah the DS can't do all that out of the box, but people are too busy playing their games to bother looking at movies/pics or listening to mp3. PSP owners on the other hand need that since there's no good games left to play. :p

PSP could play roms right out the box too, but still not many people are lining up to grab one :D

[Retroboy]

PSP is this generations Game Gear.

yeah, nintendo could've put more money and made a portable n64. that way people will have to shell out 300 bux only to play for 2 hrs before the batteries died. Oh wait, Sony beat them to that!

yeah the DS can't do all that out of the box, but people are too busy playing their games to bother looking at movies/pics or listening to mp3. PSP owners on the other hand need that since there's no good games left to play. :p

PSP could play roms right out the box too, but still not many people are lining up to grab one :D

I just love the lack of information you have, nintendo fans slate the ps2 for not being as powerfull as the GC, but when it comes to nintendo being the weak side you forget everything and say power means nothing.

And for your info, the DS lite battery doesnt last long, when you take advantage of the lightest setting on the DSlite, your battery lasts arround 3 hours.

Reason why the PSP doesnt last long is because sony wanted to take on graphics which cartridges cant handle, so you then have to power your motor and lazer, i dont care about having to charge my psp all the time as the games are miles better graphics.

Lets put it this way, if it was nintendo who made the psp and sony made the DS you all would be saying the same.

Well heres the plus of the PSP when your travelling long distances you can listen to your mp3's or even watch movies, which the DS doesnt offer, so thats why its a good bonus to have, not bad because nintendo dont have it too so its pointless.

As for the games you say the PSP has no good games, erm OK, Tenchu, Tekken, Metal Gear Portable Ops, Syphon Filter, Tomb Raider, Smack Down, Burn Out, Medi Evil, Jax, Gta all these games feel like having a home console.

Where as nintendo are still having handheld type games with short levels and games in general.

You just assume that the PSP doesnt sell, well in fact your wrong if you wasnt psp would be busted, in japan nintendo are ruling but thats because they love gadgets and bhave faith in nintendo because its a japan company and has been arround since theyre childhood.

So nintendo make weak consoles but add a pen, WOW that really makes it a better console.

Wii again cheap to make but add Wii remote, WOW but nintendo fans now slate sony and mcrosoft because they think Next Gen Graphics dont mean anything, well if so what were you all saying about the GC vs PS2 lol.

DoeDill back 15 years ago yes i would have agreed with you because nintendo allways come up with better consoles than sega, but after the N64 nintendo simply have lost it, the GC was ok *too many boring kid games* but now nintendo cant make consoles anymore that are powerfuller than its competitor like they used to with sega.

You think the consoles power doesnt mean anything, if so then sega would still be in business, but theyre not because everyone whent for the PS2, which was a powerfuller console.

[DoeDill]

QUOTE=Retroboy
I just love the lack of information you have, nintendo fans slate the ps2 for not being as powerfull as the GC, but when it comes to nintendo being the weak side you forget everything and say power means nothing.

Oh the irony of that statement. GC is more powerfull, but I've never said it did better than PS2. so is that your arguement that more power = better console? well you're wrong.

And for your info, the DS lite battery doesnt last long, when you take advantage of the lightest setting on the DSlite, your battery lasts arround 3 hours.

wow, you just showed your 'lack of information' if you own a ds lite, the manual tells you "Battery life: 15–19 hours on the lowest brightness setting, 5–8 hours on the highest." I've average about 7 hrs on the highest brightness using a cart. PSP on the other hand states "up to 3 hours on highest brightness" maybe you got confused? even so, ds lite battery life is miles ahead of psp

Reason why the PSP doesnt last long is because sony wanted to take on graphics which cartridges cant handle, so you then have to power your motor and lazer, i dont care about having to charge my psp all the time as the games are miles better graphics.

Again, showing your 'lack of information' cartridge size has nothing to do with graphics. PSP roms on a memory stick proves that and the battery life still sucks. You must love all the free time in between charging and waiting for a game to load :D

Lets put it this way, if it was nintendo who made the psp and sony made the DS you all would be saying the same.

But they didn't

Well heres the plus of the PSP when your travelling long distances you can listen to your mp3's or even watch movies, which the DS doesnt offer, so thats why its a good bonus to have, not bad because nintendo dont have it too so its pointless.

wrong, DS does offer that with 3rd party add on, so that statement is pointless (much like the rest). wait LONG DISTANCES!!! well hope it's not more than 3 hours long or you'll have to stop and find an outlet to recharge your psp :p

As for the games you say the PSP has no good games, erm OK, Tenchu, Tekken, Metal Gear Portable Ops, Syphon Filter, Tomb Raider, Smack Down, Burn Out, Medi Evil, Jax, Gta all these games feel like having a home console.

Where as nintendo are still having handheld type games with short levels and games in general.

All those games you mentioned are short level games with no replay value at all. After a week you'll never pick that game up again.

You just assume that the PSP doesnt sell, well in fact your wrong if you wasnt psp would be busted, in japan nintendo are ruling but thats because they love gadgets and bhave faith in nintendo because its a japan company and has been arround since theyre childhood.

So the PSP isn't a gadget that's why Japan doesn't love it? And their faith in nintendo is so strong they choose the PS2 over the GC. whose assuming now?

So nintendo make weak consoles but add a pen, WOW that really makes it a better console.

no, they made a console with a huge library of diverse games. That's makes it a better console.

Wii again cheap to make but add Wii remote, WOW but nintendo fans now slate sony and mcrosoft because they think Next Gen Graphics dont mean anything, well if so what were you all saying about the GC vs PS2 lol.

what did I say about GC vs PS2? (please find and quote me on it)
Power don't mean much on console anymore, just like special effects in movies

DoeDill back 15 years ago yes i would have agreed with you because nintendo allways come up with better consoles than sega, but after the N64 nintendo simply have lost it, the GC was ok *too many boring kid games* but now nintendo cant make consoles anymore that are powerfuller than its competitor like they used to with sega.

again, power don't mean squat. PS3 is so powerfull that game deveolpers don't know how to write games for it. wow, guess that means more time to watch movies on the PS3

You think the consoles power doesnt mean anything, if so then sega would still be in business, but theyre not because everyone whent for the PS2, which was a powerfuller console.

again your 'lack of information' shines again. PS2 was not a more powerfull console compared to the dreamcast (maybe on paper) but in terms of real life performance, they were on par. PS2 beat dreamcast because of enormous hype, massive advertisment and dirty tactics.

[DoeDill]

here's a good article from a (former) PSP owner.

http://lifeintech.com/articles/how-ds-beat-psp


When I was looking for a portable gaming system the Nintendo DS was out of the question; It was a kid's toy and nothing more. Sony's PSP was much cooler with its larger screen, better graphics capabilities, music/video capabilities and decidedly more mature games (Grand Theft Auto, baby!).

Like many, I saw the DS touch screen as a gimmick. The same could be said for the dual screens. Nor did its cheap-looking plastic compare to the sleekness of the PSP.

Eventually, from the pressure of my girlfriend to play Mario Kart DS, I decided to give it a go. She was having so much fun with hers, after all. For a slick $149 I purchased the DS Mario Kart pack.

Now, nearly nine months later, I've found that I never (I mean never) play my PSP. The DS became my handheld of choice. I asked myself how this could be possible, citing all the reasons above and I've formed a simple conclusion: the DS is a better value, period.

[UP_PSP]

And thats why I own both :)

[Retroboy]

id like to admit i own both, thus giving me the right to say i have to say the psp is miles better than the ds, the ds is classed as retro handeheld to me.

How long have nintendo been doing handelds......... a long time, and theyve just got to 3d, sony, 1st time and theyve given you almost ps2 quality.

proves that nintendo are only making products with cheap parts, they could put all in if they wanted but they dont because they dont have the balls like they did back in the day, Nintendo vs Sega.

[DoeDill]

you have the right to say anything, but that doesn't mean you're right.

Numerous handhelds has came out against nintendo, all which had better specs than nintendo's handhelds at the time and all of them failed. They, like you, think it's all in the power/graphics. Making hardware that are hard and expensive to develop software for.

[TomIsADeftone]

id like to admit i own both, thus giving me the right to say i have to say the psp is miles better than the ds, the ds is classed as retro handeheld to me.

How long have nintendo been doing handelds......... a long time, and theyve just got to 3d, sony, 1st time and theyve given you almost ps2 quality.

proves that nintendo are only making products with cheap parts, they could put all in if they wanted but they dont because they dont have the balls like they did back in the day, Nintendo vs Sega.


Don't give all that bollox about DS being Retro, the DS owns PSP little arse,

I own both and unfortunatly i wasted my money getting a PSP, there's about 2 games i actually play on my PSP Katamari and Rocoloco. and about 10 that i play on my DS regulaly aswell as using it now for chatting on msn.

Sony might be nicer to look at but u buy a console to play and get your hands on, not to sit on your shelf to get dusty.

Sony are overated bollox.

[TomIsADeftone]

they could be, but in years time when a pc ds emu gets running.


Won't happen soon, even now you can't get an N64 emulator to run every game perfectly


name one person who still plays nes game on the origional nes system, very rare, now look at how many people play nes roms via emulation.........hmmm id say more.

Me, i play the original machines, i've got storage boxes full of Nes/Snes and GB junk, Nothing beats the original feel, every 6 months/year i'll feel alittle nostalgic and get them out.

[TomIsADeftone]

So really the game should be Super Mario DS not Super Mario 64 DS as ive just proven why its not the N64 version your playing, so why have 64 in the name hmmmm maybe nintendo trying to fool y'all that the DS is a handheld n64.

Because the original concept is from the N64 version, and they really aren't that different at all, you'd have to go through each game side by side with a tooth comb to find the differences. They've jst integrated more charectors to try and make it feel less like a port.

Damn, i could spend all night picking all the faults with you arguements.

jst come out in the open and admit your nintendo hater.

May i suggest you read this book: Clicky (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0966961706/202-8321824-4731839?v=glance&n=266239)

Then you'd appreciate how much Nintendo have done for the world of gaming.

[Retroboy]

yes, its story is the same, but it cant be callded 64 if its not, they could call it mario 64 ds if it was a direct port, but its remade for the ds, so it should be mario ds.

[gama]

yes, its story is the same, but it cant be callded 64 if its not, they could call it mario 64 ds if it was a direct port, but its remade for the ds, so it should be mario ds.
Isn't the gameplay the same though? Well similar in a sense. If it is so, then the 64 in the name would be correct. It's like "New Super Mario Bros" The gameplay is similar to the old Super Mario Bros.

[Retroboy]

Isn't the gameplay the same though? Well similar in a sense. If it is so, then the 64 in the name would be correct. It's like "New Super Mario Bros" The gameplay is similar to the old Super Mario Bros.

Gameplay is the same but the game is diffrent, in mario 64 you never had luigi, wario and yoshi.

The graphics are completely diffrent (dont look as good) and the charactor models are diffrent.

If you would have read before it can only have 64 in it if its a ported version of the n64 version, like rayman is a ported version.

Super Mario Bros has the same style of the old games and thats why its called New Super Mario Bros, because its new.

Kinda like the xbox version of Conkers Bad Fur Day, tho the game was the same, like mario DS with slight changes it wasnt called Conkers Bad Fur Day, it was called Conker Live and Reloaded, even tho the live part wasnt an actual story based game.

[LordWill0722]

Anybody Else Think Retroboy Should Be Banned From The DS Treads *If It's Possible* I Mean, Your Griping About The PSP, You Name Is All Over Other Threads, How Bout You Stick To Your Darling PSP Thread Here And Stay There. Kinda Pointless If You Don't Even Have A DS Comin Over Here And Saying "Hey DS Sucks Compared To DS"....Hey DS's Are Selling Every 5 Seconds...Theres Now World Records Saying The Fastest Gaming Machine Ever To Sell More Units, Anywhere In Such A Period Of Time...Did Anybody Look Where PSP STands?!...Yeh Not To High...Please Retro Boy, Go To Your Own Threads And Let Us Talk About Or Own Things Here. Thanks

[Retroboy]

Where am i talking now about the PSP, erm im not, im stating that the reason why people are thinking the DS is a N64 is because nintendo are calling remade games 64.

Mario has the same story but it is a remake, it has nothing from the N64 game in it, the textures are diffrent, the charactors a diffrent, extra levels/stars even the controls and how the game feels is diffrent.

If youve played both Mario 64 and DS you will find that its not a port, which i like, theyres more in this game to do than the 64 version.

Ridge Racer is the same, Ridge Racer 64, but because it had new stuff it wasnt named 64 because its not the 64 version of the game, yes it was based on the 64 version but it had new stuff.

I dont care, i like both consoles but use the psp more, and if it wasnt the fact that downloadable roms were playable on the DS i would have never got one.

Thats my taste im not telling you that you should follow it so you cant tell me what i should like.