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Zeus
07-19-2006, 01:04 PM
Some phsyical concerns have been raised about the Wii - these include aching wrists, control frustration, space required and the physical workout involved. One journalist said that after using the Wiimote for 10 minutes, he became tired!


Nintendo's recent Wii event, which saw the console in the UK for the first time, was aimed at press who hadn't played the console at E3. Bad news for gamesblog but good news for the likes of Arena magazine. The latter, not exactly known for their games coverage, have got an interesting piece that voices some of the physical concerns I raised in May. I was quite tired after 10 mins, so lengthy Wii sessions could be a real workout. The concerns over space are relevant too, though I'd be less concerned about the TV size. Many early adopters will be big telly owning gamers, with the kit already to hand. If Wii does breakthrough to the true mass-market then it is still likely to be stuck under the main TV next to the DVD player. Historically Nintendo's consoles have generally been the children's bedroom choice - to be played on a smaller screen - but the Wii's sleek design and party friendly gaming makes me think it will live with the adults.


News Source: <A href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2006/07/18/wii_rule.html" target="_blank">Guardian.co.uk</a>

SLAYERPSP
07-19-2006, 01:17 PM
thats what i was thinking when i saw it. i play my games in my room i cant stand up and play there is no room plus when i play games i like to kick back and relax smoke a few drink a beer what ever its about relaxing for me. if nintendo is smart all games should inc normal controls aswell as the motion stuff that they are doing that way everone is happy.

dreary79
07-19-2006, 01:17 PM
I was thinking about that and that may be the worst thing about the Wii. Play zelda for 10min then trade it in for the Gamecube version because you want to play it 4 hours at a time.

Wii is going to be good for kiddy mini-games, but who wants to play action, adventure, or rpg games for 10min increments.

rrg
07-19-2006, 01:19 PM
They make it sound like a bad thing if you are active. This guy must be a fat slob, only 10mins. Wimp.

This should be a competitive advantage, keep people in shape.

I can hear it now, "Johnny your so over weight turn off the TV show and play your Nintendo games instead."

juanmiglesias
07-19-2006, 01:20 PM
i have always think that wii may have a option setup to play with regular controllers, as the retro style one, it might have a setup for playing freestyle or old style, that would be good. it could have some limitations but i think its a good option.
but im guessing this is a developer job. as an example, tennis, baseball, madden couls be easily adapted to freestyle or old style., like zelda TP, it has a gamecube version so i dont see why you cant control it with wii as with gamecube. the good side is wii will combat overweight problems LoL

antron
07-19-2006, 01:23 PM
i am quite sure nintendo tested this on lots of differnt people. no worries here.

Azariel Z
07-19-2006, 02:04 PM
10 min? Like someone sadi, this must be a fat lazzy ass. I don't remember people getting tire of playing Pimball Machiens, or Atari controller Joystick. Sure not every game needs a Pointer, but is welcome on special mometns isndie the game..also this fat ass, need a diet..10 min? Must be the same guy that when rechs the E3 at 9:00 starts to ask about lunch ... Fat Ass..jsut what Ic an say...I am curious how he will do when he needs to sart playing Warhawk on Ps3... He needs a SPA!

peppers
07-19-2006, 02:11 PM
I dont think becomeing tired will be a big problem unless your way out of shape and is that is the case you sould try getting tired to get in better shape

SONIC
07-19-2006, 02:11 PM
UK journos... go to hell ;) It amazes me time over time how wise all these idiots are... no, seriously!

zetsurin
07-19-2006, 02:22 PM
They make it sound like a bad thing if you are active. This guy must be a fat slob, only 10mins. Wimp.

This should be a competitive advantage, keep people in shape.

I can hear it now, "Johnny your so over weight turn off the TV show and play your Nintendo games instead."

Sorry, but active is going to the gym, running, or kicking a ball around the park. NOT pointing a wiimote at a TV. The only thing it seems to 'exercise' is your wrists which are already strained from keyboard use 'etc'.

The only lazy slobs will be the ones who claim to exercise because they are playing with the wiimote, it's going to be the latest scapegoat for the lazy and fat to help serve their lazy, fat consciences.

daps83777
07-19-2006, 02:24 PM
nintendo is pushing the Wiimote because it is different, you may however be able to play most of the games with a standard controller. we don't know. they are pushing a new concept with the motion sensing concept so we will have to wait and see if the games can be played regular as well on the classic controller.

i tend to agree if you get tired after playing for 10 minutes using the Wiimote then you are some fat lazy dude. my brother can play ddr for hours staright on the few harder settings. he is 13. so if some dude can't move his arm around for over 10 minutes he probably is at high risk for a heart attack or something, or just a plain wuss.

KainXS
07-19-2006, 02:39 PM
if you swing your wrists around and bend them in all different directions for like ten minutes then they will get tired
this also hampers blood flow into the hand
this guy is telling the truth about pain in the wrists

dreary79
07-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Think about how you would hold and move the controller on the different games they've shown. Most of them I would use my shoulder and elbow on more than my wrist. Hold a TV remote control and act like you playing Red Steal or Downhill Jam and you should understand what I'm saying.

Havok154
07-19-2006, 03:58 PM
I was thinking about that and that may be the worst thing about the Wii. Play zelda for 10min then trade it in for the Gamecube version because you want to play it 4 hours at a time.

Wii is going to be good for kiddy mini-games, but who wants to play action, adventure, or rpg games for 10min increments.

You ever watch the videos for most of them. You aren't going to be jumping off the couch and doing freaking cart-wheels, especially when playing zelda. Zelda is going to be using the controller for aiming mostly and you can tilt your wrist. All the ads for Wii make it look like you need a freaking gymnastics instruction to play a game of COD. I think it was one of the IGN editors said that those ads are just exaggerated and misleading, he started off moving in huge motions then found out that as he played more, it was much better to play with small movements and just moving the controller slightly, you even have better control of your character like that. Sure you can be Tarzan and swing from your ceiling fan, but it's definatly not necessary, and it definatly won't make you any better, in fact it'll probably make you less skilled then the kid using smaller wrist and arm movements.

Edit: Oh yea, and I definatly want to try out adventure, action, etc games on it. The better control could be a great way to play. Obviously I won't know till I try it, but this will most likely be the closest thing to a mouse on a console. I don't really think japanese style RPG's will be better on the Wii then a 360 though, since they really don't require much control other then talking to people and either selecting your attack or in real-time fighting japanese rpg's, you just hit one of a couple buttons to attack. American style RPG's could benefit though since they usually involve some more action to their fights. Plus, Strategy games are basically made for the Wii's controller since it does give you mouse-like control, you can select troops, scroll around, etc much easier then using an analog stick. The analog stick is the only thing preventing strategy games from becoming popular on a console.

Mr Doctor
07-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Bunch of lazy bastards.


That is all.

thePANICHIOteam
07-19-2006, 04:48 PM
so if some dude can't move his arm around for over 10 minutes he probably is at high risk for a heart attack or something, or just a plain wuss.
Definately a wuss. He probably got tired turning on his laptop to write the article.

They let the press have a go and what do they have to tell the people wanting to know more..........

Bunch of lazy bastards.
Damn right.

Would be good if they just let a few people try it in a mall or something.

Robotron
07-19-2006, 04:51 PM
Read this on another site:

"Okay, I'm sick and tired of people who've NEVER PLAYED THE SYSTEM making problems for it before it began.

My wife, the tech editor, got a hands-on demo yesterday. She told me that in Excite Truck, the range of motion was nice and tight, with very little movement necessary to perform the moves. You can apparently do them exaggerated like the videos show, or do it subtly with the same results.

But if you're too fat to play a game that requires a little motion, that speaks volumes about you, your health and your lifestyle. Get the hell of the couch, lardass!"

dreary79
07-19-2006, 07:16 PM
I doubt that the person who wrote the article even played a Wii; he didn't even name what game made him so tired in 10 min.

MadonnaProject
07-19-2006, 07:21 PM
Talk about the obvious. I pointed this out ages ago. *sigh* anyways just imagine, coming home from work, tired and pissed off, and only wanting to shoot aliens. would a normal controller with the xbox 360 shooting aliens taking out your frustrations would be fine? or would flailing your arms around like a moron be more "fun". especially when you dont have much room to move. or imegine this, making an impulsive gestire and having samus fall into the pit below that took 2 hours for you to get to.

heh heh. wow nintendo. how intuitive and revolutionary.

Mr Doctor
07-19-2006, 07:34 PM
So.... youre saying youre retarded?

Especially since the motion is used for aiming and the stick for moving.



Anyway, on the subject at hand, its not going to be any more tiring than the bongos, and me and my mates have played that for hours on end, only stopping because out hands were red raw.

Trashcat
07-19-2006, 07:44 PM
One day we will have VR-like controls with full body movement tracking and 3d glasses with head tracking too which will give us immersion we can only dream of today, thats pretty much the last step before matrix-style brain interface, some "fat kinds" will sure biach about how they get tired after 10minutes of VR "exercises", anyway its a natural way of progress not some fad nintendo is trying to feed you with, "3d mouse" is a due for a while already. For the whiny jourlanists out there i can recommend old school NES controller, it only has a D-pad for the left hand and 2 buttons for the right so you won't get tired so fast moving your fingers, health warning: you might have to press Select and Start occasionally.

Dirtie
07-19-2006, 09:53 PM
Lay off the burgers and join a gym.

Havok154
07-20-2006, 01:16 AM
So.... youre saying youre retarded?

Especially since the motion is used for aiming and the stick for moving.



Anyway, on the subject at hand, its not going to be any more tiring than the bongos, and me and my mates have played that for hours on end, only stopping because out hands were red raw.

Don't take Madonna seriously...first of all his name includes Madonna, 2nd of all, he never has anything positive to say. His posts also usually make me lose a year or 2 in brain age.

Azariel Z
07-20-2006, 03:09 AM
Really, he is a frustrated Xbox's FPS fanboy. Don't take him seriously. Ahh, he is proud of his ROM back up collection also.:D And madonna nicks , well..no comments.:eek:

thePANICHIOteam
07-20-2006, 06:32 AM
Talk about the obvious. I pointed this out ages ago. *sigh* anyways just imagine, coming home from work, tired and pissed off, and only wanting to shoot aliens.

He's only saying what people have posted in this thread and many others have hinted at here and in other threads.......


i play my games in my room i cant stand up and play there is no room plus when i play games i like to kick back and relax smoke a few drink a beer what ever its about relaxing for me.

I was thinking about that and that may be the worst thing about the Wii. Play zelda for 10min then trade it in for the Gamecube version because you want to play it 4 hours at a time.

Wii is going to be good for kiddy mini-games, but who wants to play action, adventure, or rpg games for 10min increments.

if you swing your wrists around and bend them in all different directions for like ten minutes then they will get tired
this also hampers blood flow into the hand
this guy is telling the truth about pain in the wrists


Basically the wii controller will be impractical to use all the time. Yes I know you wont have to use it with motion sensing all the time. Fair enough.

Im sure most of us could play for longer than 10 mins without collapsing in a heap from exhaustion.

Will the strain on wrists be much greater than typing on a keyboard or playing tennis or something? Will be good when we can judge for ourselves. I guess it will be different for each individual, you could probably do very different movements that are interpreted the same way by the game. So you could probably do many movements with a flick of the wrist or by moving your whole arm couldnt you?

Azariel Z
07-20-2006, 06:42 AM
Double: ( corrected)

Azariel Z
07-20-2006, 06:52 AM
That s why there are games, for different kind of public. But not all like to only move their fingers and be static, and smoking ( coff coff ), and see what's happening on the screen.
Controllers are different also, keyboard, mouse, steer, dance pad, drums, beat mania interface, Guns, etc. Now to denominate a interface "kiddy" because is no the ( today's ) standard , is a retard.
Who can't afford to move its arm on few smooth increment, for more than ten minutes, please never buy a Flight simulator, or a Steer to play racing games...
... and who needs to swing his arm like a gymnast to play Wii?? Just because the the Nike announce the last model of its sneakers with a guy doing extreme skating poses , doesnt mean that every one purchasing is Forced to do the same... duhh..,.. the controller in Wii will give you same feedback if you move little precisse increments, or turn around like crazy.
Still, tehre will be room to analisis and feedback after the paltform comes to the publics, and all people speculating can afford a test. Sure everyone can do.

thePANICHIOteam
07-20-2006, 07:14 AM
lol. Im not sure how being a fanboy or anything you want to call me affected my comments in my previous post.
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Just seen your next post.

To clarify just because I quoted people doesnt mean I agreed with everything they said.

Just the point that there are many people that have their reservations on the practicality of using the motion sensing controller everytime they want to play a game. Dont think its enough to stop people wanting it though. It will be great i think.

the controller in Wii will give you same feedback if you move little precisse increments, or turn around like crazy.
See thats what i meant in the last part of my post. See how we can agree on stuff? lol

Azariel Z
07-20-2006, 08:54 AM
I didn't call you fan boy, "yet another", is because I double posted :D , I started the psot and pressed ENTER without noticing..pressed back, erased the lien but the double psot happened anyway. My mistake.

put4558350
07-20-2006, 09:51 AM
Well look this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_5cEDmOC8
look his last hit. you will know that it's not that tire

Maybe ...

Well i don't think games will not tested befor it's sale. That why we don't have swing sword in Zedla.

Yes to other system like ps3 or 360 you may have to make a little more move. but i can say that. maybe I can loss weight just add more action and add more fun in the same time.

buy Wii for just $200 and get better health :cool:

The Bat
07-22-2006, 12:55 PM
if you swing your wrists around and bend them in all different directions for like ten minutes then they will get tired
this also hampers blood flow into the hand
this guy is telling the truth about pain in the wrists

Agreed. Although 10 minutes seems a bit quick to tire out from the Wiimote, try holding your arm straight out for as long as you can. With most people, it'll be sore after just a few minutes.

Who knows? Perhaps the person who complained initially in this article was using movements even more exagerrated than what Nintendo is promoting, and the pain comes from failing to properly stretch first.

dreary79
07-22-2006, 02:09 PM
If I'm sitting in a chair and resting my elbow/forearm on my leg I can't see me having any problems with my arm hurting.

Do you guys that are complaining have a hard time moving a mouse, because its the same motion. It's the same type of wrist movement. For games like Zelda and Red Steal anyhow. Games like WiiSports will be different, but its not like I'll be swinging a baseball bat a ton of times in 10min.

The Bat
07-23-2006, 10:06 AM
If I'm sitting in a chair and resting my elbow/forearm on my leg I can't see me having any problems with my arm hurting.

Do you guys that are complaining have a hard time moving a mouse, because its the same motion. It's the same type of wrist movement. For games like Zelda and Red Steal anyhow. Games like WiiSports will be different, but its not like I'll be swinging a baseball bat a ton of times in 10min.

Was that the position which was used by the person complaining? The support which their arm had, and the width of their arm movements, and the game they were controlling are all unknowns. I was just stating a possible explanation for the 10 minute limit of the writer, that's all. Who said that they had to have a clue?