Xbox360 Game Dumping

[JSR]

In few days, a friend and me will rlz a program to dump your xbox360 dvd... Let's wait guys :)

[JSR]

Okay, just rlzed, ineed to translate it in english...
The weebpage is here (in french) :here (http://gueux-forum.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=85594&view=findpost&p=601921)

[AceMilo]

If its an iso extractor, there are already tons of those. If its anything else, I'll believe it when I see it.

[ravenslayer]

it's an iso xtractor/explorer :(

[JSR]

No there is also a method to dump xbox360 dvd and the extractor for those dump...
It's an hotswap method.
Sry guys , i have no time to translate it

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Allright, here the translation ... :rolleyes:


As being said, here is the procedure:

In order to include/ understand the goal of the ' hotswap' method, it is necessary to include/ understand how a reader CD/ DVD functions: At the time of the insertion of a disc, the reader reads the FAKE (Table Of Contents) which describes in particular the size occupied by the data on the media.

This size is expressed in sectors, each sector making 2048 bytes. The reader will not read again any more than fake, unless we're ejecting the disc, but this is what we want to avoid. Indeed, what prevents us from copying a XBOX DVD towards its hard disk is the fact that this DVD contains a fake header, which describes only the first session (the DVD video, the only visible thing when you to try to read the DVD with another reader than the XBOX), which makes only some MB (approximately 100000 sectors). Our goal is to copy a maximum of sector from the DVD, that is to say a maximum of 9Go approximately, that represents 4500000 sectors. You thus should insert a DVD containing the maximum of data: A DVD video often makes between 7 and 9 GB, a good film of 2 hours should be appropriate. It should then be replaced by the XBOX game to be copied without opening the drawer (if not the reader will read again the FAKE). And that is when it becomes complicated: To replace the DVD without opening the drawer it is necessary to have access to the top of the reader, that is to say to have disencumbered it of its metal hull. I will not explain this point, I am sure that you will know how to make or how to find the method. Once the DVD is open, start by inserting a DVD videoo, let Windows read the FAKE content and wait until the DVD stops turning. Then, without opening the drawer, replace the video DVD by the XBOX DVD. The reader won't realize it and will read as many sectors as the FAKE of the video DVD has. I made all my tests with a DVD of 7,7 GB, for approximately 3850000 sectors, I advise you to use at least that.

Now let's pass to the creation of the ISO file. Ben says it is rather simple, if the DVD doesn't contain defective sectors, which must be a physical protection which will make it possible for the XBOX to make the difference between an original DVD and a DVD-R. The problem of these sectors is not the loss of data, because they do not contain any, but rather time that your burning software will need to bypass these defective sectors. For example with Alcohol 120%, the management of the defective sectors is really very slow, I think that it would take several days to make the ISO. Personally I used CloneCD 5.2.6.1, which passes the defective sectors quickly, I made the ISO in 30 minutes.

Attention, if you use this software, in the window of choice of the file targets it is necessary to choose the type ' Image', and put a file name which ends in ISO and especially not by DVD here, at the end of 30 minutes you will have your image, which you will be able to use with nothing, because the softwares currently cannot open it. I have already coded a software for that, I will soon put it up for download with its sources. It makes it possible to open the Iso and extract one or more files (or all of course).

You can also mount the ISO with daemon- style tools, but you will only see the DVD video track ... (inevitably very well copied, even the FAKE is there). I suggest you to create the ISO image of in RAW mode, because it is a binary copy of the disc without any kind of alterations. Have fun, take care with your hardware and media, and do not distribute these files - all this is for educational purpose only.

And one more time: The tutorial cannot be used for burning and playing these images, they won't work in your XBOX !

[JSR]

Merci pour la traduction :)

[JSR]

Here's the link for the unpacker for those dump : here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wx360-RAW-beta.rar)

[TheRevengeOfGod]

no problem :D

[Jason Voorhees]

all i see is Audio and Video.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

You need to unsolder the top of a pc dvd drive, so that you can change disks without opening the tray of the dvd drive.

Put in a large movie dvd (~9 GB), wait until pc stops reading it,
exchange it by a xbox 360 game WITHOUT opening the dvd drive tray.
(I guess you somehow have to put it in from the drive's open topside)

Finally use some dvd burning software that is capable of reading bytes
in raw mode. Thats all ...

Thats what the frenchies discovered and how they built their .360 ISOs.

Who wants to play guinea pig and confirm if that method works :) ?

[Jason Voorhees]

im not taking my pc apart just to get some unusuable iso's. i just wanted to see if PDZ and Condemned have cheat codes.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

other test subjects :D ?

[Jason Voorhees]

you came up with the idea. you put it to the test.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Wrong, i just translated some french text to find test subjects willing to sacrifice their dvd drives and 360 games :D

[Jason Voorhees]

well, you never said that. i just assumedthat it was your brilliant idea. for someone to ruin the dvd drive and game.

[pspmad05]

it does not work i tried many sized films and swapping different 360 games.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Those frenchies seemed so convinced ... What good lairs they are :D :D

[pspmad05]

i used the drive from dvd recorder as the top is of when you open the caseing tried a 4.5gb dvd and a 7.7gb dvd,the swapped with commened,perfect dark and call of duty,
i tried dvd dytcpter and nero to backup iso but no go maye i need to use a different program

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Hmm ... Could you test it with CloneCD as the french guy wrote ?

[pspmad05]

Hmm ... Could you test it with CloneCD as the french guy wrote ?


yeah i will i notice that part to busy just trying to do it i will get CloneCD but shouldnt it be clone dvd

[pspmad05]

using clone cd now on commdemed seams to not be able to read sectors i will leave it then try perfert dark.

but i dont think it works.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Yeah, that was exactly what I thought as i read about "CloneCD" was used to dump that ISOs :D But CloneDVD is only for movies as far as I know ...

Maybe CloneDVD is capable of duplicating DVDs in the latest version, who knows. Thanks for checking it out and best of luck pal.
We owe you one :)

[pspmad05]

update it has started to copy at 11% and rising

[pspmad05]

at 35% and still going i will post back as soon as it is complete but yeah it seems to work. :cool:

[pspmad05]

finnished it backed it up

[pspmad05]

it only backed up 6mbs and it took it 30mins lol.

[pspmad05]

right this is for real it works i tried it again and backed up perfect dark at 6,6gbs
now trying another game.

i repeat this works.

[pspmad05]

i thought this would be good news is no one intertested by this.
on how to copy our xbox 360 games.

[Xion]

i thought this would be good news is no one intertested by this.
on how to copy our xbox 360 games. I guess others are willing to try it right now and taking off their dvd drives lol Anyways this is great news, but I think it needs confirmation from others cause I personally have doubts.

[pspmad05]

hi would never lie it would make me look a loser big time.
it works i never took the top of any of my pc drives i used a my dvd recorder drive as i have had trouble with my dvd recorder and when i took the caseing of i notice the top of the drive could come straight off.

the drive is a nec and it was in my goodmans dvd recorder.

but it does work and thats 100% not bull.

[Xion]

cool, yeah I believe you

[pspmad05]

condemned and perfect dark are 6.51gbs not bad really the size of them.well thats one part of the process the games can be backed up now just to run them. :p

[Xion]

Is the 6.51 GB the size of the ISO or the size of all the files inside the ISO? jusr curious

[pspmad05]

that is the size of the iso's so people would have to use the 8.5gb double discs which aint that bad really.

but i am amazed that clone cd can do this its like using my own swap magic for ps2,sometimes the disc does not stopp spinning so i had to ping it off then put the game on it let it read it for about 2mins it gives the outlook of not being able to do it cuz it comes up bad sectors but then it does cool.

[Xion]

ah ok, If you have some extra time, try extracting the files out of the iso by using PIs extractor tool. I have downloaded a 360 game which was Condemned and it was about 7GB but when I extracted the files It came out to only about 3GB so that's interesting. I'm not forcing you to do this, but it would be some good info if you can.

[pspmad05]

yeah no prob but how do you use the pi thing its dos promt i know that i load the file in the command promt tels me pi 360 dump extractor then what.

[Xion]

hmm after you drag the ISO file to the xtract360.exe it should automatically run and extract the files. Hmm maybe try changing .ISO to .360 perhaps?

[pspmad05]

the isos can not be opened as of yet it says on the first page of this forum the french dude is gonna release a program that lets you open the iso which was made this way.

unless im wrong and if thats the case great i can look in side my isos.i wonder if this method would work on xbox 1 games.

[Xion]

oh yeah, you are actually right, I heard something about that, I guess we would have to wait for that tool. I think it's worth a try for Xbox 1 games, I say go for it.

[Xion]

http://bouclier.free.fr/wx360-RAW-beta.rar
what is this tool for? it was posted on the first page of this topic, I wasn't paying attention, could this be the tool to extract the files out of the ISOs made by CloneCD?

[pspmad05]

nice find it does the job alright :cool:

[pspmad05]

but it only reads one of my dumps.one dump gives me loads of fles and one gives me a broken file.

i will redo that game.

[Xion]

cool man, keep us posted!

[pspmad05]

condemed is 3.38gb when unpacked.i will redo perfect dark

[Xion]

nice, same size here my Condemned is also 3.38 GB unpacked, I have the PAL version released by PI. That's good to know at least the ISOs are actually valid. Anyways man going to bed, I'll check back tomorrow and see how perfect dark goes.

[JSR]

Yeah , you see that i was not lying :)
Thx who for the method ? Me :p

[ravenslayer]

started ripping Kameo here
it isn't that hard to do but i hope it works

[ravenslayer]

Rip went great only my source dvd was to small so not all files were ripped now i need to find a dvd wich contains more the 7.7 the bigest i have is 7.2 and is king arthur wich is a movie of 2:30

[TheRevengeOfGod]

now everybody is happy :D
beautiful, beautiful :)

thnx to the frenchies, great find :)

[ravenslayer]

and tnx to you for the translation :)
and also tnx to hary poter for it's size :p

[wiggim]

This is the oldest trick in the book to do a disc backup. Only thing we were missing is the file extractor. Try it with an original xbox game and I bet the game will boot in a modded console, or at least if theory holds it should. :)

I think this is how the first batch of DC games hit the net too, before the serial loaders were developed to rip directly from the DC.

[wiggim]

Go buy a DVD-9 disc and make a movie yourself that maxes out the TOC of the disc, I think nero can do it for you. Maybe a Data DVD will work also. Then you won't have to search for a large movie. I can't see why a DVD-R TOC wouldn't work.

[pspmad05]

easy this dumping but i dont think perfect dark can be dumped i will rent a larger movie later incase its that but im using a 7,1 dvd so i wil try bigger size.

[ravenslayer]

i used hary potter 1 wich was +-7.6GB

[revengeismyfury]

What do you mean unsolder and test subjects to ruin their dvd drives. All you would have to do is either use the emergency eject holes, or take the top off with screws and swap the dvds out, that simple. Atleast wouldnt it? Or is there something else you forgot to tell us. Isn't it strange xbox-scene doesnt have any news about this. Theres something they dont want us knowing again. :)

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Pal these are strange days, but I told you everything I know, I promise ... :)

And don't forget, I just did some french to english translation, credit for the hotswap method goes to the frenchies :D They had the idea not me ... :)

[Xion]

I checked my movies, and the highest TOC I've seen is from Lord of the Rings:Return of the King about 7.93GB

[revengeismyfury]

I wonder if this would work for xbox1 games.

Anyways thats what I'm testing right now. Cause arent the xbox games and xbox360 games burnt with practically the same file system or no?

[pCeSlAyEr]

not practically... they are the same file system... thats why qwix can extract the .360 images if renamed to .iso

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Interesting ... Now let's combine the facts:

If we find someone who has a modded XBOX and can perfom this swap trick with an XBOX game and test his dump in his modded XBOX, we would have 100% evidence that the hotswap method provides good dumps ;)

Who wants to try, hmm :) ?

[pspmad05]

do you want someone to open there dump then remake a iso to try on the xbox i will give it a ago my org xbox is modded.

[pspmad05]

i dont think perfect dark can be dumped twice it has finnished but you can not open the iso and when you do its not files just one large broken file.has any1 dumped perfect dark and open the iso.

[pspmad05]

ok i tried it it comes up as unkown disc in my modded xbox.however when i browse the drive though media player it knows its a xbox game

xbox 1 xbe and
xbox 360 =xex i will try tp put a xbe instead of the xex who knows might work

[pCeSlAyEr]

its doubtful it will load... this method is half assed... you'll nvr know if you missed some info or not...

[pspmad05]

i was just trying it cuz someone asked people to try the dumped games on the modded xbox.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

You got me wrong pal :)

I wanted you to check out a standard XBOX game (not a 360 one) with the hotswap method. If you can dump it with that method and play it in your modded xbox (not the 360 one), it would be an evidence that hotswap method produces flawless dumps.

We cannot test 360 dumps, thats why I came across this idea (the guy who talked about the similar file format of the two xboxes brought it into my mind).

Best of luck and thanks for testing :) !!

[shade45]

Why doesnt someone try this hotswap method in thier xbox1, put a dvd in then swap for a 360 game, then connect with ftp and transfer the files

[pspmad05]

i tried it with a normal xbox game at it made it the same size as the 360 dumps. werid ah.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Strange, indeed pal :confused:

Did you use a large video dvd for the dump ?
Did you use a large xbox 1 game for the dump ?
Did you try to open the dump with the frenchie extractor ?
Did you try to extract the dump, recreate an ISO out of the files and folders and did it play on your modded xbox 1 ?

Thank you very much for all your effort ... :)

[jameswalter]

The frenchie tool doesn't work with the xbox dump I made last night of MechAssault. I can open the ISO in UltraISO but it just shows me the Video_TS folder that is normally seen when putting the xbox game in the PC. It did dump 7.7G though.I think the frenchie tool needs to be changed to look at the offset of the xbox game structure instead of the 360 structure.

[pspmad05]

yeah it cant read the xbox 1 dumps.nor can any iso tool xiso qwix etc.
i used a my only real xbox game lol the simpsons hit and run and a 7.4gb dvd.
but no go it copied it but to te same size as the 360 dumps.

[pspmad05]

if we can get the iso open then rebulid i think it will run as i say the 360dump i extracted then made a new iso put it in the xbox 1 iit knew it was xbox game in the drive even had the little sysbol for the xbox game just couldnt play it of course.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Seems we're close to something, doesn't it :D ?
Thanks pal, great work ...

[ravenslayer]

Dump xbox game -> extract and the rebuilt with x-iso or other. This should work i'll try it over here right away

[pspmad05]

you can not open the xbox iso made with clone cd only the 360 iso's.

[Xion]

The problem is that the extractor only supports 360 dumped games, so there is no way of ripping the files out of the dumped xbox 1 game. Also the french tool is still on beta and has some bugs which might explain why perfect dark won't work.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Now look how far we got ... Impressive and excellent work :)

Xion, did you also try qwix on the hotswap dumped xbox 1 game ?
What about X360FExT 1.0, it should handle xbox 1 isos as well ...

[jameswalter]

Now look how far we got ... Impressive and excellent work :)

Xion, did you also try qwix on the hotswap dumped xbox 1 game ?
What about X360FExT 1.0, it should handle xbox 1 isos as well ...

Well...neither of them worked for me....I don't know if X360FExT is supposed to open xbox dumps or just xisos, but it didn't work for me.

[pspmad05]

you cant open any iso made using the clone cd swap trick unless it is a 360 iso image.
nothing will open the xbox 1 iso image a change has to be maded to the 360 extract program in order to read nd extract the xbox 1 iso.

[jameswalter]

you cant open any iso made using the clone cd swap trick unless it is a 360 iso image.
nothing will open the xbox 1 iso image a change has to be maded to the 360 extract program in order to read nd extract the xbox 1 iso.

We know. It should be a simple offset fix to make a program to extract xbox ISOs as well.

[Z80]

Xbox and Xbox 360 discs I recall are encrypted. Any attempts to dump them without handling such encryptions would be futile. Xbox games that are dumped are dumped on Xbox systems and transfered out. I would bet that to properly dump an Xbox 360 disc you will need to have a modded Xbox 360.

It sounds to me like this whole this is just your usual BS rumor. But then again, I've not really looked into it.

[kgonepostl]

I would most certainly love to help. I'm a hardcore modder and I love the ghetto approach.

I also understand 95 percent how this works. This has been performed since the ps1 swap method and has the same concept.

The ps2 swap magics also use the same method.

Here's the reasoning to all this:

Remember when he refered to the table of contents and said that it reads the video section as the fake sector. This is the first data it reads in the toc and I beleive this is why you can and WILL use dvd-video.

Here's a example of why you need a high data dvd.
example:
When you insert a 4.34 gig movie dvd and your dvd first starts reading the table of contents and your dvd drive marks the table of contents as 4.34 gigs and you make teh swap with your 6 gig game. Your dvd drive screams out
"WHAT THE ****!!!" this isn't the original dvd! and can't read the contents on the game.

Now if you insert a 8 gig dvd-video and your game is 6 gigs
your drive marks the toc of 8 gig and when you make the swap with the 6 gig game your rippin everythings fine cause it's overmarked that 2 gig sector space.

I'd sure as hell love to try this. My friend has a xbox 360 and a few games. Maybe if somebody could donate a drive to me I'd do it. Whadya think?

[jameswalter]

Xbox and Xbox 360 discs I recall are encrypted. Any attempts to dump them without handling such encryptions would be futile. Xbox games that are dumped are dumped on Xbox systems and transfered out. I would bet that to properly dump an Xbox 360 disc you will need to have a modded Xbox 360.

It sounds to me like this whole this is just your usual BS rumor. But then again, I've not really looked into it.

You really think that PI managed to mod the xbox in 3 weeks after MS spent 2+ years on security?

[kgonepostl]

Please Read!!!

ah ok, If you have some extra time, try extracting the files out of the iso by using PIs extractor tool. I have downloaded a 360 game which was Condemned and it was about 7GB but when I extracted the files It came out to only about 3GB so that's interesting. I'm not forcing you to do this, but it would be some good info if you can.

It probobly has dummy files man. it's used to push the data to the end of the disc so it can be read easier and is easier on the drive when being read. It's a common practice and is used all the time.

Go buy a DVD-9 disc and make a movie yourself that maxes out the TOC of the disc, I think nero can do it for you. Maybe a Data DVD will work also. Then you won't have to search for a large movie. I can't see why a DVD-R TOC wouldn't work.

I'd be safe and just use a commercial dvd-9. Let's find out though. Somebody that owns a official pressed dvd-9 video make a backup of that same video onto a dvd-r with NO COMPRESSION and see if the dvd-r works also. In theory it should.

What do you mean unsolder and test subjects to ruin their dvd drives. All you would have to do is either use the emergency eject holes, or take the top off with screws and swap the dvds out, that simple. Atleast wouldnt it? Or is there something else you forgot to tell us. Isn't it strange xbox-scene doesnt have any news about this. Theres something they dont want us knowing again. :)



I wouldn't take this guys suggestion on the emergy eject hole......the disc will still be spinning as the object is to swap the dvd will it stops for 2 seconds.

I wonder if this would work for xbox1 games.

Anyways thats what I'm testing right now. Cause arent the xbox games and xbox360 games burnt with practically the same file system or no?

this works with practically everything. what your doin is having the dvd read the good part that needs to be read from something else so it can recognize your official game. then you weed out the bad data through clonedvd.

Xbox and Xbox 360 discs I recall are encrypted. Any attempts to dump them without handling such encryptions would be futile. Xbox games that are dumped are dumped on Xbox systems and transfered out. I would bet that to properly dump an Xbox 360 disc you will need to have a modded Xbox 360.

It sounds to me like this whole this is just your usual BS rumor. But then again, I've not really looked into it.

Well......you have to recall that one guy saying that this same exact method was used on dreamcast before teh dc rip cable. As you know the dc rip cable was used to rip games directly from the dreamcast ;) . Yet before the dc rip cable you could do it using this same exact method. So don't be discouraged guys :-). At least not yet.

You really think that PI managed to mod the xbox in 3 weeks after MS spent 2+ years on security?

Yes..... :o . Haha. No you make a very valid poin I was just pokin jokes that microsoft isn't the best when it comes to "security" haha!!!

I do have an idea. Maybe when the xbox's become more affordable.......
please hold your jokes.

Do you remember the old ps1 swap method. well it seems that there's enough swap time. Now keep in mind i'm a old school modder and the swap trick was really hardcore back in the day. it's really hard to pull off and my idea is since the xbox and xbox 360 have similar toc's fake sector usage and definetly not to mention filestructures........
I'm gonna dissasemble my xbox 360 case and drive and try the swaptrick!!!!

[crono]

I dont know whitch toc it read first otherwise you could do a swaptrick like sega saturn. :-)
(first put copy in to read real toc then backup for the security then put backup back)

This would be awsome becuase copy games will work beter whit there real toc's :D

[menist]

I'v tried this swap trick and got this on DVD Decrypter.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/m3n1st/pic2.jpg

[crono]

why can't you edit here :-s
================================================== =======
I dont know whitch toc it read first otherwise you could do a swaptrick like sega saturn. :-)
(first put copy in to read real toc, (then the real game for the security), then put backup back)

This would be awsome becuase copy games will work beter whit there real toc's
================================================== ========

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Interesting DVD Decrypter screen, pal :)
Did it actually dump the contense of that 360 disk ? Did it read it properly ?

Most posts are pointing into the right direction: We're close, very close, perhaps only a few small steps away from the real thing. I agree, we DO need a new version of some ISO extracting tool that can handle offsets of xbox 1 dumps which were created using the hotswap method. This is the only way (by recreating ISOs out of that extracted files and testing them in modded xbox 1's) to gain 100% proof that hotswap method actually works - because if it works for xbox 1, it'll do the job for xbox 360. Reason: The two xboxes' similar file format - I'm not 100% sure if I'm correct at this point, so please post your opinions and point of views if you know more and let everyone benefit from your knowledge.

Apart from that, let's also hope the frenchies are up to something good concerning a new ISO extracting tool for hotswap XBOX 1 dumps, they allready showed us their impressive skills and ideas :) I can't thank them enough for their discoverys, without them we won't be testing anything now, no dumps no hotswap, no nothing. So lets again thank our friends from france for what they achieved.

But let's get back to the topic:

The reason why 'Perfect Dark Zero' is so hard to dump might be it's special protection - which differs from other 360 games. Maybe some "extended" burning software could be capable of doing the job :) ? It would be VERY helpful, if someone had the time to check it out (hotswap + 360 game) with the latest version of BlindWrite. Can BlindWrite produce a proper dump of "Perfect Dark Zero" ?

Thank you all very much for your time and interest in this topic

Best of luck to all of you :)

[KRiSX]

just curious.. why do you want to use the hotswap method for dumping original xbox games when the current methods of ripping to the xbox hdd then transfering to pc work quite well as it is?

isn't it more important to keep focus on the x360?

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Yes, we all know how to get good xbox 1 dumps using ethernet cards, ftp 'n stuff. but thats not the point.

the point is:

we can only test xbox 1 dumps in modded xbox 1s.
xbox 360 dumps won't work in xbox 1s and xbox 360s, so we can't test them no matter what we do.

both dumps (the xbox 1 & the 360) have a similar file system, so if the xbox 1 dumps play correctly in modded xbox 1s, it would proof that xbox 360 dumps are most likely 100% good which is VERY important to know.

It's kinda math idea behind all this:

a=xbox 1 dump
b=xbox 360 dump
c=correct, game actually plays

a=b; reason: similar file system

leads to:

if a=c then b=c

result:

we need to show, that a=c, then we know b=c.

the goal would be to successfully dump a xbox 1 game (using the hotswap method) which would run in a modded xbox 1 - that does proof that the hotswap method actually works for xbox 360 games aswell (because of the similar file system).

[KRiSX]

oh ok... well then i hope ur theory works then :)

but there is always the chance that dumping like this will work fine for one and not the other due to the slight differences....

good luck either way... if i had some time to play i'd test it out

also just a quick note to kgonepostl... dude... dvd drives aren't expensive... just buy one :P

[kgonepostl]

oh ok... well then i hope ur theory works then :)

but there is always the chance that dumping like this will work fine for one and not the other due to the slight differences....

good luck either way... if i had some time to play i'd test it out

also just a quick note to kgonepostl... dude... dvd drives aren't expensive... just buy one :P

I know man.....christmas killed me. I love to spend on others when christmas comes around. I don't even have the money for a 20 dollar drive.....messed up huh? Donations? :rolleyes:

[Hunterhood2001]

....
result:

we need to show, that a=c, then we know b=c.

the goal would be to successfully dump a xbox 1 game (using the hotswap method) which would run in a modded xbox 1 - that does proof that the hotswap method actually works for xbox 360 games aswell (because of the similar file system).And what next?
You'll need a modded Xbox360 to play that kind of "backups" ... So it's not useless, but won't help you much ... You have to overrride the copy protection on the 360 ...

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Rome wasn't built in one day you know :) Actually we should first confirm the hotswap method is 100% working before we're thinking any further ... Let's mess around with what we've got and not with what we might never get :p

Although it's not possible to play hotswap 360 dumps, it's nevertheless pretty interessting to check certain things out, ain't it :D ?

[Xion]

And what next?
You'll need a modded Xbox360 to play that kind of "backups" ... So it's not useless, but won't help you much ... You have to overrride the copy protection on the 360 ... I think you misunderstood his post. He meant that Xbox 1 dumped games(not 360), to be played on a modded Xbox(not 360). And the kind of dumped games that we are talking about is using the Hot-Swap trick (not FTP).

[Xion]

ok you probably know that already and I wanted to edit but can't find the button, but the point of this is to confirm whether or not the ISO is valid.

[xecuterbox]

Very Very interesting.

Ill have my 360 (preordered early december for stock arrivals) in the new year - buying a game this week so I can play it as soon as my 360 arrives - Ill also try with xbox 1 games if we get an extractor, what if someone with the games, extracts a 360 dump from hotswap, downloads the same game, and uses comparison software to check if they are the same, probably will be because we are probably using the same method but it would be some sort of confirmation it works ;)

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Nice people, thank you all so much for your intention to help.

I ordered some hardware by myself which should arrive soon, so I'll do some testing, too ;) Nothing too special that I ordered, just one simple IDE to USB converter cable and a used dvd drive (some matsushita/panasonic oldie one, cause I had in mind that those drives read pretty much everything - even dvd ram which could be good for our testing issue, who knows) plus some minor cable stuff I thought that might be usefull :)

[xecuterbox]

There is a post on xbox-scene


Hi,
I'm the guy who released the procedure for hotswap dump.
First, sorry for my english, but I hope it's better than this horrible auto translation I saw...

This procedure has a problem concerning the second layer on a DVD9, because there is 2 way for putting data on a DVD-DL :
the PTP method, used for data DVDs, the layer 1 start from the center of the disc and go to the edge, and the seconed layer do the same. This shape is good for performances but at the end of the first layer you have to wait for the DVD player to go back to center of the DVD to start reading the second layer.

This is a problem while playing a movie DVD, because you can't wait one second during the movie ...
So there is a second way to write a DVD9 : the OTP method.
This time the data is from center to edge for the layer 1, and from edge to center for the layer 2.

All the movie DVD are in OTP desing, and data DVD are in PTP design, and I'm pretty sure the XBOX360 DVD are in PTP, so you have to use a data DVD for hotswap ... it SHOULD solve this issue, but I'm not really sure (I need to do more tests...)

But for KingKong, the entire game is only 2,3Go so you can (and must) do the hotswap with a DVD5, with only one layer. This time no matter if it is a movie or data DVD, because there is only one layer so no design problem.

So I hope I'm understandable with my bad school english, I'll send you an update after my second layer tests.



Im thinking maybe a PS2 or PC dvd game which can be read ok by PC drives would work, maybe try this with Perfect Dark Zero

Or like someone suggested, getting a DVD9-R and maxing out the space for both layers.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

A pretty good idea :) Which PC or PS2 games do have huge size ?

[revengeismyfury]

Well, I tried a few programs after hotswapping the dvd with the xbx dvd, but still no joy. I havent tried clone dvd yet though, I tried alcohol and clone cd and no go. It just keeps trying to read the first sector with errors.

[jasch]

I tried several 360 disks with CloneCD, and after 45-60 minutes of CloneCD failing to read sectors, I gave up. What could the problem be? Perhaps my DVD-ROM is too old?

[tony52]

im copying Kamo right now( 11% done!

this works great, i'll post a ton of info when i'm finished.

[revengeismyfury]

I suspect that we probaly have to use like clone dvd or whatever but yeah keep us posted tony.

[tony52]

I suspect that we probaly have to use like clone dvd or whatever but yeah keep us posted tony.

i tried to dump kameo but it got stuck at 50% every time i tried,

I'll try pdz and cod 2 soon, first i need a dvd with a bigger TOC so i don't get stuck at 50%.

BTW the new oxm360 dvd can be backed-up with a xbox1, i dumped it just fine with the swap method and then X-S posted the news about it working with xbox1.

[JSR]

On the french forum where was posted first the method for game dumping (by JSR and Gael360), some guy (Sliders58) tried to boot a backup with hotswap method (the original xbox360 dvd of a game and his backup) on xbox360 and it's working :).
the video : here (http://bouclier.free.fr/HotSwap_by_sliders58.rar)
The forum link : here (http://gueux-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=88355)

[Radiozo]

Well. Hotswap works but only as long as you dont have to read from the disc. As soon as it needs to load something from the disc there will be an error and you have to put a real disc in the drive. So hotswap is pretty useless right now.

[Vintage]

Wow, that method looks amazing for the laser, i wonder how long it will take for it to **** up. :rolleyes:

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Laser should be fucked up in a pretty short time I guess ... :)

[Xion]

:eek: amazing video and looks very real. But could kill the laser quickly...anyways this is still a good progress, I hope a modchip comes out soon.

[cloni]

wow this is really impressive!!
But how did he burn now that game? Did he make a common xbox-iso and burned it? Did he first delete the dummyspace or leave all the **** in it and burned it successful? It wont boot alone without a chip, but it fucking plays the game, so this is crazyy :D

great job!

[mayleung8]

:confused: Anybody have successed to read X-Box 360 by this method?
I have tried many times and used 8G DVD Video (OTP) and 8G PS2 Game (PTP) and all got bad sectors around 47%-50% i.e. First Layer only
I can't read the second layer. Why? Anyone knows the problems?
Thanks for your reply!

[xmod]

Yes i did

Updated my NET Framework to 2.0 and was finaly able to use the wx360-RAW-beta
to extract my dumped ISO.

Here the deal, the movie has to be bigger than the game you are dropping, cuz the image will be the size of the movie, not the game. then using the tool, you extract the game from the ISO.

I did CODII and NHL, both gave me a 7.38GB ISO image cuz the movie i used was that size.

then using the tool, i got the data out for NHL and looks like a game, but COD was prolly bigger than that cuz some data is weird. NHL came out as 6.63GB

I think Kameo is 8.5GB!!

heres some pics

the setup

http://membres.lycos.fr/canadiens/test1.gif


The ISO

http://membres.lycos.fr/canadiens/test1b.gif


The Tool

http://membres.lycos.fr/canadiens/test1c.gif


Extracted Data

http://membres.lycos.fr/canadiens/test1d.gif


xmod

[TheRevengeOfGod]

I can confirm that 'Call Of Duty 2' has alot of bad files - actually all subdirs of the game (including their data inside) are unreadable ...

I used the Harry Potter DVD and it went through to 100% in CloneCD.
So I guess I got a good dump of the game :)

I can extract alot of files, including .BIK videos which you can watch on PC using rad tools ... So far I would call my first test a success :)

I'll keep on testing other games ;)

[chinese_fury]

Might I suggest something here.
There is a dvd copy program that I use for dvd movies that works great.
It's DVDXCopy Platinum. I wonder if it would work for what you are trying to accomplish. You can also save the TOC with it.

[JSR]

Using the method i gave, you can only dump properly the first layer of a disc... (the second layer breakpoint is the same everytime but is different from dvd used for swapping so that's why it fail, the lens go to the second layer too early or too late). I'm currently searching for a method to dump properly the second layer by software method cuz i have already an hardware method working (firmware patched).

[xmod]

Using the method i gave, you can only dump properly the first layer of a disc... (the second layer breakpoint is the same everytime but is different from dvd used for swapping so that's why it fail, the lens go to the second layer too early or too late). I'm currently searching for a method to dump properly the second layer by software method cuz i have already an hardware method working (firmware patched).

Wait! so how could i get 6.63GB for NHL ?
are you saying the game is not comlete, would of read only parts of the second layer ?

What about Condemned, comes out as 3.38GB
But has something about layer0 and layer1 in it ?

edit :
http://my-gamebox.com/bitbucket/condem.gif

Too many questions, i'll wait it off a bit, im going nuts :p

[TheRevengeOfGod]

@JSR: Hmmm ... Why not publishing the firmware then :D ?
Because it's internal (they told you to NOT publish it) and only works for certain drives ?

But could you at least give us some tips on how to alter our own firmwares ?

Best of luck to you :)

PS:

Another thought that came up to my mind: If you're right, then most of our dumps are useless since they contain garbage or are incomplete ... :(

[Sonic2k5]

in the pgr3.iso what i made there were an file called "Ñ0)¢@”U". and the file was in game\audio\music\layer2\. the size 1.06 GB

is this not an full pgr3.iso

[mayleung8]

I hope to hear a good news for JSR! :) :)

[xmod]

in the pgr3.iso what i made there were an file called "Ñ0)¢@”U". and the file was in game\audio\music\layer2\. the size 1.06 GB

is this not an full pgr3.iso

Nope

You cant have any files like that, if you do, means the DVD you used wasent big enough and your dump is useless.

I have dumped 6 up to now, with only 3 success.
I use Cast Away, and managed a good dump for NHL2k6, Condemned and Kameo. My CoDII, Quake4 and Amped3 had files like yours.

heres Kameo (sorry for the size, if i resize, you cant read properly)
EDIT : Attachements, deh! sorry :rolleyes:

xmod

[mksoftware]

Nope

You cant have any files like that, if you do, means the DVD you used wasent big enough and your dump is useless.

I have dumped 6 up to now, with only 3 success.
I use Cast Away, and managed a good dump for NHL2k6, Condemned and Kameo. My CoDII, Quake4 and Amped3 had files like yours.

heres Kameo (sorry for the size, if i resize, you cant read properly)
EDIT : Attachements, deh! sorry :rolleyes:

xmod


That looks quite amazing

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Yeah exactly ...
If your dump contains files or folders like "Ñ0)¢@”U" then it's useless ...
Try again with a bigger dvd, it may work or may not.

My COD2 dump also had alot of such files and i could't extract them since their data is 100% corrupt.

That means we have to wait for a patched firmware or sth. else in order to get certain 360 games dumped :( JSR you're the man, please help your homies out :)

PS:
PDZ Bonus Disk can be successfully dumped using the Harry Potter DVD and cancelling reading process in CloneDVD after the progress bar reaches 50% (laser is on the very outside of PDZ Bonus Disk).

[JSR]

I'm still stuck with getting second layer properly with software method... Anybody know if there is a program for making iso that allows to set the second layer entrypoint and other tech thing... It should help !
For the firmware, i can't give since it's "scene" private, there is two firmware flying through the "high" scene : one for Hitachi GD-5000 used by PI and Radian (maybe CLEAR?) (it was used before for xbox1 by ProjectX and just modify some trick to make it work with xbox360 dvd) and another for Toshiba DVD 1612 used by new groups...
But i don't like that, so i'm trying to make a public firmware for LiteON drive as there is many tool for those drive and those drive are easy to find. I'm currently stuck with the firmware of a 451S disasm with D52 (disasm for 8052 microprocessor).

[TheRevengeOfGod]

No, I'm sorry ... I don't know a program for making isos that allow to set the second layer entrypoint :( Actually I don't know much about drive tech stuff ...

About the firmware:
I understand that and won't ask again about it, but thank you VERY MUCH for the information you gave us on the two different firmware hacks :)

I think we should be very happy with what we've got, it's nice and interesting to play around with the hotswap method ;)

I wish you best of luck JSR, you're doing a great job !!

[tony52]

No, I'm sorry ... I don't know a program for making isos that allow to set the second layer entrypoint :( Actually I don't know much about drive tech stuff ...

About the firmware:
I understand that and won't ask again about it, but thank you VERY MUCH for the information you gave us on the two different firmware hacks :)

I think we should be very happy with what we've got, it's nice and interesting to play around with the hotswap method ;)

I wish you best of luck JSR, you're doing a great job !!

my thoughts exactly!

[JSR]

GOOD NEWS !!!
My friend find a way to dump the second layer correctly, it's so simple when you understand it but it's so smart :)
Just wait, tools soon...

[mayleung8]

It is really a good news from JSR!

Cheers! :) :)

[TheRevengeOfGod]

I knew you would find a way JSR :) Great news !!! Thank you so much :)

[tony52]

Jsr You Da Man!! :)

[xecuterbox]

GOOD NEWS !!!
My friend find a way to dump the second layer correctly, it's so simple when you understand it but it's so smart :)
Just wait, tools soon...


Thats GREAT NEWS

I guesse Ill have to go research which data dvd's are dual layered so I can get started, unless your tools allow it with movie dvd's :D :D :D

[JSR]

Just one word for those who spam me, it's still in betastage for some days / or few weeks and it's private!...

ps: I got some useful info coming soon about how to access drive like HDD/DVD and i hope i will find USB...

[Sonic2k5]

jsr

that are great news

how does it work with programms or no programms
why cant you post how it work?

mfg Sonic2k5

[TheRevengeOfGod]

What's the point in asking for that now pal ?

JSR already told us he'll release a tool which can cope with the 2nd layer entry point problem, so just relax, sit back and be happy about the things to come :D

Patience is the key ;)

[JSR]

Release Candidate testing , release soon :)

[Walker]

for public use or ???

cheers and thx for the answer...

[JSR]

for public use soon yes :)

[Walker]

nice...

thx for the answer ...

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Thank you so much pal :)

[xecuterbox]

Just cant wait,

for both my 360 and a nice dumping method ;)

[mayleung]

I am waiting for the good news from JSR! :) :)

[JSR]

It's out by my friend here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wxRipper-1.0.rar)

[MrFlump]

Looks good. Will definately be trying this out tonight.

[dougie_j2004]

how do u use that application wxripper?

[Walker]

thx JSR,

and right plz give us a info to use this tool... thx,...

[mayleung8]

:cool: :cool: Could the program directly dump the .iso?
How to find out the 'Magic number'?
Need to swap the DVD Video?

[spiderman05]

wow what a great app so easy to use just put the dvd movie in the drive then start the program then click hotswap then press stop drive put now swap the discs then press start drive then press find magic number then start the dump easy but wow what a great app.

[TheRevengeOfGod]

JSR ... You're a god, no doubt :D

Noone here can thank you enough for what you did for us :)
Thank you - really I mean it :)

[JSR]

Program features :
- Dump the second layer (Everybody was waiting for that)
- Don't dump the bad sectors (jump over it) and dummy it (no useless sector in the iso)



So the method for all of you as i have more time :
Some precision first :
- It's really dvd reader dependent , i got 2 dvd drive one was really "buggy" and dumping at low speed and another more older (lol) that was dumping at 4X and no problem !
- Your hotswap disc MUST be OTP (movie dvd are all OTP) and around 8go or over.
- You need a game from the list in order to dump xbox360 dvd that are not in the list:
PGR3_PAL
QUAKE4_PAL
QUAKE4_BONUS_PAL
KAMEO_PAL
PDZ_PAL
PDZ_BONUS_PAL
CONDEMNED_PAL
CALL_OF_DUTY_2_PAL
NEED_FOR_SPEED_MOST_WANTED_PAL
FIFA_06_PAL
FINAL_FANTASY_XI_BETA_PAL

I will not explain how to do hotswap, i think you should know or else, someone will explain for me.
So... When your hotswap disc is in your drive , go in the "hotswap" menu and then choose stop drive ( so that will stop the dvd motor) then swap with a 360 dvd from the list.
Why? Because every disc got a different magic sector number called MZ (stand for Middle Zone) and the program needs to be calibrated. So choose : Hotswap/Find magic number)
When it's calibrated , swap with your 360 dvd that you want to dump and add it to the list (Hotswap/Add game to database) or dump it directly (File/StartDump). The final size of the iso should be 7.5Go.

You can view and edit this iso using the program from my friend here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wx360-1.4.2.rar)

[lodeer]

sorry i can not understand the instruction for the Hotswap cd.
i come from german and my englisch is not so good. pleaze help me in german languarge.

thx for all

lodeer

[spiderman05]

ok i have now dumped to of my games but there bothe the same size quake 4 and condemned they both 3.6 something gb is this right.also i cant open the iso's in any program.

thank you

[Pimpmastah]

work this tool with this games?
doa4 and Ridge Racer 6.

[Walker]

all fine ;)

JSR nice tool...


cheers

[lodeer]

i will play the backup in my console.with this tool is ok??? is this tool a bootcd for my backups? sorry for my engl.

lodeer

[Radiozo]

lodeer: no. It will not work.

[ti51384]

any chance thered be a USA version of this dumper? i know that the games are not region set but why cant i get it to work with my old xbox1 drive. im using 2Fast2Furious and PGR3 USA. all it does on my box is freeze... any ideas?

[consolero82]

Hi,

I've tested this prog for a while now, but I got the same error every time.

It's "error @ 0 Datenfehler (CRC Prüfung)" and
"error @ xxxxxxx Datenfehler (CRC Prüfung)"

Look at the Picture below....


What I'm doing wrong? Can anyone help me please?

P.S. My hotswap disk is 2Fast2Furious (German). It's about 7.86 GB

[mayleung8]

Thanks for JSR and his friends with this nice tools! THX!! :) :)
Would you mind adding some USA or Japan games in your game list?
Can I use NTSC one instead of PAL?
What modificaions can I made to the file '360-DVD5.LTF' if possible?

[buzzar]

:eek: I get "game not found" every time with 3 different drives!!..

movie = Resident evil apoc:
Game = Quake 4:

does wxR really work?

[JSR]

For all of us, i can't help you if you don't explain me the full detail :where it doesn't work, your hardware, and the full detail of what you done before the error.

A link for updated wxripper.db with new 360 calibrated game (including some NTSC game, look with a text reader) here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wxRipper.db) . Keep a look at this link as it will be updated everytime.

ps: CRC error can be bad sectors from xbox360 dvd , don't bother with that if you got a valid iso.

[spiderman05]

hello jsr firstly thanks for for bring this great app.
i have dumped 2 games quake 4 and condemned and there both came out as 3.604gbs each one the same size is his a complete dump i used a 6.7gb dvd disk for the hotswap.

[JSR]

For spiderman05 : The hotswap dvd must be equal or over 8gb !

[tony52]

For spiderman05 : The hotswap dvd must be equal or over 8gb !

The biggest dvd i own is 7.92GB, is this sufficient?

[spiderman05]

hi jsr i have dumped condemned befoire with your cd clone method but cant rember the size of it lol.i think it was under 4gb.but a dvd movie over 8gb is the best to use do you know ny movies that big .

but does any1 know if quake is under 4gb thank you

[consolero82]

JSR wrote:
"ps: CRC error can be bad sectors from xbox360 dvd , don't bother with that if you got a valid iso."

My ISO isn't valid.
It's only about ~3,5gb

I really don't know what I can do.
Every game I try, ends up with the same (bad) result :(

[spiderman05]

do all your iso end up the same size

[consolero82]

yeah, all about ~3,5gb.

It seems only one layer get dumped.

[spiderman05]

thats ok them games are only 1 layer any way i will try perfect dark thats a 2 layer game i think.

[spiderman05]

i tried the final fastay 11 demo and its the same size has any one dumped 2 games that are different sizes

[spiderman05]

is there a program to open the iso's,i have tried all the 360 programs but none work.

it looks like it was my drive i was using i used it to dump games before must of went funny.
i now use a pioneer 107 with great results

[JSR]

If the program can only dump the 1st layer : The problem can be your dvd reader AND/OR your hotswap dvd.
The final size should be every time : 7.5go !

[consolero82]

OK, the hotswap dvd can't be the problem. I tried 2 different DVD's:

Saving private ryan and 2fast2furious, same result :(

Must be the DVD reader, have to look for another one.

P.S. What dvd title is good for dumping?

[TheRevengeOfGod]

Panasonic/ Matsushita work good ... Also LG ;)
Try one of those ;)

[ti51384]

JSR or anyone... any chance you could upload .LTF files, especially for NTSC games? That would greatly simplify all of our dumping problems. Thx

[mayleung]

;) Anyone have Call of Duty - NTSC Magic Number?
THX!!! ;)

[susei]

Can me tell anyboady why it will not work with the NEC3540A Burner
or is the prob buy the tool so it were nice from Gael360 he fixed it or
what is my prob i can start the prog and after will come not find the game so
will all make so it stand it any website I go word by word and noting will do
so i hope here is anboady he can tell me this will work with my drive and sorry for my bad english i came from germany i understand a little bit more english put is were nice here is a german user he can tell it me how i must do so it will work with my or must i buy a other dvd burner i hope i become help so it were nice so i can make backups too and i can make a biger db. for pal games i have some more games he not in db.
thks ,.
bitmaster2k

[JSR]

Great News ! A new beta of wxripper that allow to dump games without having to calibrate with a known game. here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wxRipper-1.1beta.rar)

[TheRevengeOfGod]

You did it again JSR :D Thank you very much :)

[tony52]

JSR you're truly amazing!

[JSR]

Another new great features, you can now browse directly a 360 dvd from the drive and not from iso only.
You need the new version of the 360 iso browser here (http://bouclier.free.fr/wx360-1.4.2.rar)
Then use it using command-line like this : wx360.exe [drive] [magic_number]
eg: wx360.exe D: 130016
Or more easy , you put wx360 in the same folder where is wxripper (1.1 beta), find the magic number using hotswap then choose hotswap/Explorer with wx360

[tony52]

these tools don't require you to have to have a open dvd drive does it?

bcuz its not working for me and its always crashes.

[JSR]

Hotswap needed so dvd drive opened... it is what you need "to pay" to backup xbox360 games.

[ti51384]

I've managed to copy ALL of my 360 games with this tool.
All Games USA NTSC. Used 2F2F R1 DVD as source. ISO size for all is 7.05GB (7,572,881,408 bytes)
GAME // Stripped ISO size:
AMPED 3 - 6441294892 bytes
CALL OF DUTY 2 - [WILL UPDATE]
CONDEMNED: CRIMINAL ORIGINS - 3633799676 bytes
MADDEN NFL 06 - 3572507624 bytes
NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED - 7123373273 bytes
PGR3 - 6364970630 bytes
RIDGE RACER 6 - 6494345216 bytes

good luck to all
ti

[legion]

Hi,

Have you managed to get any of the backups working? Because if all games are 7.05gb then i suggest that something is wrong with the way that they have been read because speaking from my own experience at backing up Xbox 1 games no one set of games should ever be the same capacity as each other.

I have not read all of the post here myself so please forgive me if i appear arrogant as to what has already been said but i think that the answer will lie in networking exactly as it did with the Xbox 1, i have been told by the "experts" at game that the networking process between a pc and the Xbox 360 is one way only, how can this be accurate or 100% seccure? It is possible to use HDD's in excess of 20GB on the Xbox 360 so that is already one factor that MS seem to have already overlooked so maybe they have largely overestimated their own capabilities and underestimated guys like you all here.

Also dont forget the problems that persisted when people were trying to play backed up Xbox 1 games over Xbox Live what with the fear of virii attacks from MS and so forth.

laters.


Legion.

I've managed to copy ALL of my 360 games with this tool.
All Games USA NTSC. Used 2F2F R1 DVD as source. ISO size for all is 7.05GB

[JSR]

They must be 7.05gb because it's a raw dump ! It dump the whole dvd (even blank sectors)... so don't worry :)

[legion]

Hi,

Well on an unrelated note to xbox360 game dumping i had to go down to the local computer shop this morning because i had to buy a wireless network adapter for my PC so that i can setup my new wireless network next week when i get my router delivered, i was supprised at the cost aswell to get this all up and running, i'm with BT so i already have a fast modem line and altogether the network setup has only cost about £27 which in my books is darn cheap.

Now my friend who works there is adamant that a friend of his has the equipment to be able to chip the xbox 360 which i found to be quite a statement to make considering the cirumstances. Now i have had computers chipped by this friend before in the past and have found that his information is reliable but this is something that i do question the credability of.

I have checked out two uk companies that supply mod chips for most of the second generation consoles namely kanection.co.uk and whitedog.co.uk and neither of these sites have mod chips for the 360 nor does anywhere else on the internet including lik-sang.com so what i susspect has happened is that my friend has got his wirescrossed somewhere.

This friend has said that he will speak to the guy who has the equipment and will let me know on a price over the next couple of days, when i speak to him next i will try and get as much information as i can including the name of the chip and will make a post here, even if it turns out to be a wild goose chase and if i do get the 360 chipped as soon as i can i will post some photographs, but until that happens as far as i am concearned seeing is beleiving.



laters,


legion.

[BobbyBlunt]

exclusive mod chip news from a friend of a friend.
need I say more?

[ti51384]

exciting news!!!.... 360 dvd drive firmware hack in the works, not by me but by others. i take no credit :(

[Vintage]

Well the xbox 360 chip thing that guy was talking about sounds fake, like a small computer shop in UK is guna make a working chip, yer right :rolleyes:

[RodStorm]

Ok I must be missing something here...everyone seems happy they can backup thier 360 games....but how are you going to play them?
Theres no chip or boot hack yet so all you have is a disc to stare at.
13 pages of copy tips is great but theres still no end result.

[Vintage]

The games are released for dev's, maybe they can do something with them, but they just rip them and when it chip etc does come out people can use them. You could ask why they ripped the psp games before a emulator came out.

[RodStorm]

No worries, it just seemed a lot of pages to read about something we cant use yet thats all.I guess if you rip them now you'll have something to use when a solution comes out :)
As for psp lets home the scene here turns out better than thiers.
It was great at first but with games needing advanced firmware to play the newer games Sony is well and truely a mile ahead of the hackers with that one.
Its gone from a bustling scene to a dead one.
How long has San Andreas been out now on psp...and its still a no goer.
Lets hope Microsoft dont do the same.

[BobbyBlunt]

read a few threads down about hotswapping. you can play a backup only if you hotswap it for the original of the same game.
also like you said, if there were no backups, how would you know if your exploits worked or not.

[JSR]

check http://gael360.free.fr for update of his tools

[SPIDERMA]

just a quick question how long does it take to rip a game as mine has been going for 20mins and i can hear the drive making the same noise over and over but dont know if it is doing anything as my status is still 0 on the first copy


sorted

[cammy1011]

I think I managed to rip Blazing Angels.The iso size was 7.12GB.How do you get your drive to stop spinning.It stopped once but I couldnt figure out how to get it to stop so I could put in 360 game.

[JSR]

I'm sorry man but ..... Do you have eyes? Or are you lazy? read the whole thread !

[mrclean09]

I've been able to rip call of duty 2, perfect dark, and pgr3 but when i try to do ghost recon and oblivion wxripper says that it cannot find a path does anyone know what im doing wrong? Im using a dvd that is 7.8 gigs thanks.

[SPIDERMA]

i ripped graw by putting in my dvd film then stopping the disc and putting in a game from the list. (use pgr) when you have got the key for this,swop the disc with graw and press rip done. (i done mine with fifa 2006 its 7.05gb in size)

[mrclean09]

here are the steps that im taking.
1. open wxripper version 1.2 put the dvd movie in.
2. hit find magic number then stop disk.
3. hot swap with pgr3 hit spin disk and then hit find magic number again.
4. stop the disk then hot swap with graw then hit spin disk then hit start dump.
Am i still doing something wrong with these steps or are they completely wrong? Thanks.

[mrclean09]

nevermind spider it was my dvd drive it was broken everything works fine now thanks.:D

[Helack101]

lol cool! *thumbs up* :)