Google Trends indicate E74 Xbox 360 Beginnings

[Zeus]

Negative Gamer has discovered something interesting regarding the reported E74 Xbox 360's. Apparently, over the past 7 months, searches for E74 have risen to meet those of the term RRoD which suggests the new-found problem is gaining prominence among Xbox 360 owners.

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[panyan1991]

oh well, well have to develop new jokes...

e.g. how many artificial colours do you find in an xbox 360?

1 - E74!

[danight]

what firmware do you run? i-E 7.4 its super top secret though. :cool:

[crypysmoker]

Zeus.. your logic is all kinds of screed up..

It cant just mean that all those older consoles are breaking down and people search the error trying to fix it??
No... you take it as all the new consoles have the problem. Its not a ne wproblem, it is just something that is more prodominate because the consoles that are prone to it are now getting it 1-2-3 years later

[ronaldospet]

oh well, well have to develop new jokes...

e.g. how many artificial colours do you find in an xbox 360?

1 - E74!

LOLZ to that you deserve a medal.

But seriously as long as mine don't get it i will be ignoring it couldn't care less and if mine does ill replace it im done caring about rrod and errors i have my PS3 and DS Lite to play on in the eventuality of it breaking, and as its a 1 week turn around i can live for 1 week without my 360 worst case.

I beg everyone to not get carryed away but ultimately i don't care just play your 360 and if it happens to you replace it and get on with it and maybe vent anger then, but to akknowladge another problem just insights FEAR........ which is funny to see on forums but not good for your heart.

[QrafTee]

Zeus.. your logic is all kinds of screed up..

It cant just mean that all those older consoles are breaking down and people search the error trying to fix it??
No... you take it as all the new consoles have the problem. Its not a ne wproblem, it is just something that is more prodominate because the consoles that are prone to it are now getting it 1-2-3 years later

Old - RROD; New - E74; Both - Disc-scratching. I thought it was fairly simple to understand.

[cory149]

Zeus.. your logic is all kinds of screed up..

It cant just mean that all those older consoles are breaking down and people search the error trying to fix it??
No... you take it as all the new consoles have the problem. Its not a ne wproblem, it is just something that is more prodominate because the consoles that are prone to it are now getting it 1-2-3 years later
You do realize, zeus (or whomever he is copy-pasting) didn't mention anything about new consoles or console revisions at all, right?
which suggests the new-found problem is gaining prominence among Xbox 360 owners.
It's a google search result graph for pete's sake - it doesn't discriminate between new or old users or new or old hardware. Looking at the chart though suggest next to nobody searched for E74 on google until sometime last summer - and that search frequency is fairly high, comparable to that of "RROD" right now. Which is what you should have gotten out of it, if you weren't busy trying to find fault where there is none..? (I like poking fun when it's an obvious botch c/p job, but in this case you misread - just because two separate news posts exist on this site does not mean they are co-joined instead of separate.)
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Doesn't discriminate either on how many of those searches were just people who were "fear mongered" into wondering what a E74 error is rather than having one themselves, nor does it track how many people got a E74 error where they couldn't get the error code and just bought a new box or packed it up and sent it in for refurb. All in all, all it is is google search stats, nothing conclusive.

[Sepioth]

Of course there is a spike in the search .. I myself had to Google it to even see what it was :)

[d889]

that google trends info also says that most of the searches are not from america but out of the country ... which is an interesting thing.....

[crypysmoker]

JEsus man.. Thats why I stray from this site now..
You say 1 thing people dont like or take differently...... And the wolves come out.
SO sorry for not wanting to read a ridiculous article and assuming what it was about.

Ill go back to Kotaku where they talk about realivant things

[msanchez]

JEsus man.. Thats why I stray from this site now..
You say 1 thing people dont like or take differently...... And the wolves come out.
SO sorry for not wanting to read a ridiculous article and assuming what it was about.

Ill go back to Kotaku where they talk about realivant things

They only reacted just like you reacted towards Zeus, so glass house... throwing rocks, and all that stuff.

What does this E74 thing do anyways? I don't know if this is an indication of what's to come or not, but it could very well just be people, who like me, are just curios as to what this is about. Seems to me like gaming news site want to make this into the new RRoD for whatever reason, pretty soon we'll get the pathetic ones claiming their imaginary 360 got this.

Well that's one thing sony can breath easy about at least, despite various attempts elevate different issues with the ps3 to RRoD status non have been successful; I know the haters will just say that's because nobody cares.

[switchg3ar]

E74 is a myth just like rrod, it never really happened.

[msanchez]

E74 is a myth just like rrod, it never really happened.

LOL that was pretty much the early stance most 360 owners took towards the whole thing. If it indeed is becoming more widespread I hope for their sake that they learned their lesson... Alas... fanboyism knows no bounds.

[UKR JOKER]

They only reacted just like you reacted towards Zeus, so glass house... throwing rocks, and all that stuff.

What does this E74 thing do anyways? I don't know if this is an indication of what's to come or not, but it could very well just be people, who like me, are just curios as to what this is about. Seems to me like gaming news site want to make this into the new RRoD for whatever reason, pretty soon we'll get the pathetic ones claiming their imaginary 360 got this.

Well that's one thing sony can breath easy about at least, despite various attempts elevate different issues with the ps3 to RRoD status non have been successful; I know the haters will just say that's because nobody cares.

e74 is when the scaler chip inside cracks and guess what causes it??overheating in the last 12 months i've had 2 machines do this,if out of warranty just wrap in towels make it 3 red light and send back to micro soft.got me a ps3 now so this 360 will be the last i buy fed up of waisting cash on these pieces of crap!!

[NewBeginning]

Remember when people were spreading all that propoganda that the NXE was frying thousands of consoles? If you look at this chart, you'll see that there was no significant increase in searches relating to any of the aforementioned in November. Any increase in searches is a result of more people getting an Xbox 360 during the holiday season. All I'm saying is, as it turned out, the NXE frying consoles turned out to be a bunch of **** that affected a much smaller portion of users than it was initially made out to, and this E-74 thing could be similar. I remain skeptical, and everyone else should too.

[d_winchy]

E74 is the most common cause of RRoD.

E74: AV cable error... There is a problem with the AV cable, try using a different AV cable. If the cable is known to be working then there is a 90% chance it's a scaler chip problem (the "ANA" or "HANA" chip connected directly to the AV cable) in rare cases it is the GPU.

It isn't a new problem? It's just more people have searched the actual error code.:rolleyes:

[gui1e]

It's just people wondering/searching to see what the fuss is all about. If some put up "OMG error E747 is melting xboxs" then you'll have 10 million+ people google it to see what its all about.

You'll also have a couple of million PS3 fan boys having a look as well so they can try to be funny in threads like this.

[chinman]

exactly what i was thinking, now i dont even have to type it, thanks guile

[wassabi]

It's a vicious cycle, the more reports that come out about E74 on the rise, the more it will come up in search results.

By the way... E74 = RROD
It is caused by the same hardware issue, just it is the GPU's connection to ANA that fails, instead of the CPU's connection to the main board. That is why when you get a RROD fix kit, they recommend you fix both the CPU ang GPU at the same time.

[gui1e]

It's a vicious cycle, the more reports that come out about E74 on the rise, the more it will come up in search results.

By the way... E74 = RROD
It is caused by the same hardware issue, just it is the GPU's connection to ANA that fails, instead of the CPU's connection to the main board. That is why when you get a RROD fix kit, they recommend you fix both the CPU ang GPU at the same time.

What I've alway wondered if there really is an issue with hardware or are the internal system checks and tolerance levels checks to stringent? Are machines going RROD or E74 error etc when they are potentially still functional?

I've had some dodgy electrical gear in the past that has still worked when they have been dropped, broken or submerged. My old spectrum 48k fell out of my school bag years ago and was run over by an Ford sierra which broke it in two. I glued the thing back together and bridge the damaged tracks with some copper wire and it still worked!!! Couldn't sell it though when I wanted to move to a commodore 64....

[Xenontc]

I just did a google search to find out what the E74 even is, does that mean my Xbox just got the E74 code? No.

[Battlefield]

These numbers is always lower in the real world than online.

Microsoft gives 5 year warranty on Xbox 360 in my country because of our laws, so if an error occur on 360.. MS is sending UPS or DHL is coming home for free to pick it up, deliver it to repair shop, then deliver it back at no cost.

[wassabi]

What I've alway wondered if there really is an issue with hardware or are the internal system checks and tolerance levels checks to stringent? Are machines going RROD or E74 error etc when they are potentially still functional?

Sorry, the RROD is a real failure. The solder they use in all new electrical devices are lead free. Meaning they have a lower melting point. For whatever reason this was not taken into account during the design of the 360.
The heat produced by the 360 is enough to melt the solder connections around the processors. When this happens, the xclamps that hold down the processor are insufficient and the processor can raise slightly away from it's connections.

[dsav]

i've had my 360 for less than a year and recently after i played for few hours, the next day i was greeted with e73.

garbage.

i wonder if dumb ms is still using this crap solder in jasper consoles aswell ?

probably, i guess we'll start seeing these fail later this year, if not already i think someone said they got e74 in a jasper, not sure.

i'm convinced more less every 360 will fail sooner or later, just a matter of time.

ms should be sued to hell and back for continuely making the 360 failure prone, i mean it's been over 3 years, and still rrod occurs wheather it be 3rrod or e73 e74 ect.

pathetic.

[d889]

when i hear about people going through 5 xbox's because they keep red ringing ... there is SOMETHING ELSE going on behind the scenes, maybe its dirty power? maybe its something else but seriously dont jump straight to fucking conclusions.

my 2006 1st gen model lasted over 2 years of HEAVY use, and i live in the san fernando valley and when its 100 degrees outside in the summer, its literally 110 degrees inside my shitty rental house and the thing lasted through all of that (it failed in the winter).

my free refurb runs quieter and hasnt had any problems since i got it back.

even though i suffered the red ring, i dont give a ****, maybe becuase im old enough to not care if i cant game for a week?

chances are if you got a red ring you probably should have re thought where to place it.

[grapeape]

when i hear about people going through 5 xbox's because they keep red ringing ... there is SOMETHING ELSE going on behind the scenes, maybe its dirty power? maybe its something else but seriously dont jump straight to fucking conclusions.

my 2006 1st gen model lasted over 2 years of HEAVY use, and i live in the san fernando valley and when its 100 degrees outside in the summer, its literally 110 degrees inside my shitty rental house and the thing lasted through all of that (it failed in the winter).

my free refurb runs quieter and hasnt had any problems since i got it back.

even though i suffered the red ring, i dont give a ****, maybe becuase im old enough to not care if i cant game for a week?

chances are if you got a red ring you probably should have re thought where to place it.

Your asking to get assaulted by fanboys with that one...most will claim they babied them and went through 9 or 10 of em. I have a launch one that is still working though I did get a new elite a few weeks ago, took it in trade for a laptop I was trying to get rid of. My kids are now using my old one but its still running strong. I do think its a crap shoot though, mines been sitting in the same place since I bought it, its probably full of dust bunnies but its still working, I have a friend that is a bit OCD and treated his like it was made of glass but his failed about 3 months after he bought it...his replacement is still working though.

[msanchez]

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even though i suffered the red ring, i dont give a ****, maybe becuase im old enough to not care if i cant game for a week?
...

Most of the time I don't think it's the lasting a week or whatnot without gaming, but the fact that it died plain and simple. Nobody wants to buy stuff that breaks down inexplicably. I think it's good though that you don't plan to blow a gasket because you spend a week without gaming; likewise we could all stand to be a bit more tolerant with all the other consoles too.

Not that I think we should just take whatever comes our way with a smile; we should complain, we should b*tch, but I just wish our criticism was more constructive.

[Battlefield]

Its possible that anything breaks, and it doesent matter that much.
If you have all 3 consoles, its not a big deal if one is for repairs.

My 360 finally got RROD, but is repaired and i get it back in 2 says. I'm kinda glad i got RROD, so i'm sure it wont break anything soon after that.

I used mine alot for 1.5 year before it broke. It even survived being on all day when not used last summer in extreme heat condition.

[msanchez]

Its possible that anything breaks, and it doesent matter that much.
If you have all 3 consoles, its not a big deal if one is for repairs.

My 360 finally got RROD, but is repaired and i get it back in 2 says. I'm kinda glad i got RROD, so i'm sure it wont break anything soon after that.

I used mine alot for 1.5 year before it broke. It even survived being on all day when not used last summer in extreme heat condition.

Sadly not all our bank accounts are as devoted to our gaming past time as yours might be. Some people only have 1 console, so if that console breaks, then that means no gaming. This might not be a life and death situation, but it's understandable that you'll be pissed after dropping $200-300+ on a console, and it breaks down on you in a short amount of time.

The same way you can't blame a ps3 owner for being angry after dropping $400-600 for a console that received no games for almost 2 years.

[Battlefield]

Sadly not all our bank accounts are as devoted to our gaming past time as yours might be. Some people only have 1 console, so if that console breaks, then that means no gaming. This might not be a life and death situation, but it's understandable that you'll be pissed after dropping $200-300+ on a console, and it breaks down on you in a short amount of time.

The same way you can't blame a ps3 owner for being angry after dropping $400-600 for a console that received no games for almost 2 years.

I dont play that much games, but have enuff money to spend on both games and everything else when i want. The consoles dont cost much, so i bought all 3 because of exclusives.

[msanchez]

I dont play that much games, but have enuff money to spend on both games and everything else when i want. The consoles dont cost much, so i bought all 3 because of exclusives.

I didn't want to imply that you game a lot, just that as you said you can buy all 3 consoles and everything else you want. Most of us, sadly, are not in your same financial situation. I could definitely buy all 3 consoles (though I'm nowhere near loaded), but what's the point? I only game for a few hours a week, so one console is more than enough for me to keep myself entertained, buying the other 2 would just be a waste of money that could be better spent in something else. I bought a ps3 when MGS4 launched, since then I've beat Resistance, and COD4, and I'm currently in the second act of MGS4. And in all honesty, Resistance I just passed the last 2 of 3 levels because my brother in law was played the rest, after that I still got Folklore, Heavely Sword, Lair (yes I actually like it), Trofeo Pirelli, Lego Star Wars, and a whole bunch of PSN games..... this will probably last me for a few years.

[Battlefield]

I didn't want to imply that you game a lot, just that as you said you can buy all 3 consoles and everything else you want. Most of us, sadly, are not in your same financial situation. I could definitely buy all 3 consoles (though I'm nowhere near loaded), but what's the point? I only game for a few hours a week, so one console is more than enough for me to keep myself entertained, buying the other 2 would just be a waste of money that could be better spent in something else. I bought a ps3 when MGS4 launched, since then I've beat Resistance, and COD4, and I'm currently in the second act of MGS4. And in all honesty, Resistance I just passed the last 2 of 3 levels because my brother in law was played the rest, after that I still got Folklore, Heavely Sword, Lair (yes I actually like it), Trofeo Pirelli, Lego Star Wars, and a whole bunch of PSN games..... this will probably last me for a few years.

Thats okay. :)

I have the consoles for misc reasons..

Xbox 360 is the overall main gaming console.
PS3 is mostly a good and cheap Blu-Ray player, but i also play a little on it.
Wii... is Wii.. and its Nintendo.

I bought Lair myself for 1 reason... the hype and that Factor 5 made it. It collects dust on shelve, but i will play it sometime.
Just ordered Trofeo Pirelli because its the best Ferrari game since F355 on Dreamcast.
I skipped buying MGS4 because of all video sequences, but i may buy it when its a budget game later.

I bought 15 games or so on PSN, and have nearly 20 retail games.
Also bought nearly 80 retail games on 360 + 15 on Live. My 360 isnt modded.

Sometimes i play much, sometimes i barely play for weeks..