New Wii version kills off all current mod chips

[Zeus]

The internet is buzzing with multiple reports that their is a new Wii version that kills off all current mod chips. Apparently, the drive controller chip has been completely removed and Nintendo has combined the older D1A and driver controller chip into one which is called the GC2-D3. Therefore, a big gaping hole has been left on the motherboard. More pictures and analysis is available at <A href="http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://wii.cngba.com/wii_pj/2008120758390.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtgs%2Bcosplay%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den% 26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3DR7n%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dw&usg=ALkJrhiZkWcSOmt-lClH5QcMPvotlVUvHQ" target="_blank">cngba</a>.

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[drzoidberg]

this i definitly no News ! it was reported 4 days ago

on a lot of up to date Scene sites !

whay is maxconsole getting so slow ?

[Horrorwood]

this i definitly no News ! it was reported 4 days ago

on a lot of up to date Scene sites !

whay is maxconsole getting so slow ?

Because they are not into reporting user found news, they like post their "press releases" and get paid for it.

[tech3475]

it pays to be an early adopter sometimes. my wii is wiikey one compatible- alot cheaper to chip than the later ones.

[didineedthis]

It wont take them long to sort it out ;)

didineedthis

[Appleseed]

can't you use software to run backups? its not a perfect method yet but still its something.

[crypysmoker]

Im starting to think nintendo is a lot smarter then they let on.

Think about it. release an outdated console with revision after revision of boards closing off all forms of current hacking.
They could have just used the Wii to figure out as many security flaws as they can to put them into a new console in the next couple years.
Makes sense to me. try and out smart the hackers like sony did with the PS3

[swolgam]

Who gives a ****! These are the wii's that you can find in stores after xmas and since everyone has one they will just sit. Still plenty of modding opportunities on the older ones IMO

[swolgam]

Im starting to think nintendo is a lot smarter then they let on.

Think about it. release an outdated console with revision after revision of boards closing off all forms of current hacking.
They could have just used the Wii to figure out as many security flaws as they can to put them into a new console in the next couple years.
Makes sense to me. try and out smart the hackers like sony did with the PS3

Sony hasn't outsmarted anyone. Only thing they have done is control market price on blu-ray burners and blanks. If sony slips and let those blanks fall sub $5 then the hack will be released. Its already been hacked just not released. If it gets released sony will just drive up cost to make it not worthwhile.

[viewsonic]

wow a new board this is great! maybe the softmoder's will get off their butts.

[DrLucky]

umm... what about all of the alternate solder points? Certainly the wiiclips wont work on them, but a good solid solder job wii be fine!

[somegamer]

It's been reported that you can just swap out the drive and still be able to install a mod chip. So until older drives with d2b, d2c, etc... run out there is still a solution.

[CZroe]

It's about time you reported on this MaxC. Is it because I finally said something yesterday? Great job chosing an unintelligible machine-translated source. REAL smart. How about the other details, like that it's just one in Australia? You didn't think that was important?

this i definitly no News ! it was reported 4 days ago

on a lot of up to date Scene sites !

whay is maxconsole getting so slow ?

They didn't report many of the developments AT ALL. D2C2, D2E, the respective chips updating for them, etc

It's been reported that you can just swap out the drive and still be able to install a mod chip. So until older drives with d2b, d2c, etc... run out there is still a solution.

How is that a solution for the system modder? Where are you going to find a cheap, continuous supply of drives in the holidays for a console that's hard to find new or used? Sure, it's getting easy to find new, but the holiday sales will soon guarantee that those are going to be the ones with the drives you can't modify. Why not just mod the old Wiis in the first place if you know where to get them?

Heck, they were still selling out of PS2s last Christmas and the one before, so I totally expect Wii volume to evaporate shortly.

[hitman43]

The RealSource is: www.wiinewz.com -> click here:

http://wiinewz.com/forums/nintendo-news/82846-new-wii-drive-revision-kills-all-modchips.html

[tech3475]

It sometimes pays to be an early adopter.

[Oner]

Sony hasn't outsmarted anyone. Only thing they have done is control market price on blu-ray burners and blanks. If sony slips and let those blanks fall sub $5 then the hack will be released. Its already been hacked just not released. If it gets released sony will just drive up cost to make it not worthwhile.

You seriously don't know what the hell you are talking about. BD-R's @ $5.28 a disc (http://www.tapeandmedia.com/blu-ray_disc.asp) have been available for MONTHS...."hackers" don't wait for disc prices to fall to release code.

[rdsworks]

If you look at the reason most hackers hack a system it is for homebrew.

Sony was smart and allowed you to install Linux on the system from the get go, which is a deterrent to most hackers since homebrew can already be done.

Now I know this isn't the best homebrew like free games, but the linux guys map out how the system works, and then modders take that and produce modchips and so on.

[Sepioth]

umm... what about all of the alternate solder points? Certainly the wiiclips wont work on them, but a good solid solder job wii be fine!

No ... without the chip (aka it was removed completely from the board and merged with another chip) the leads that you would normally solder to are no longer valid. All those alternate points, if they still exist, are pointless now to.

They will need to find a way to hack the new chip.

Im starting to think nintendo is a lot smarter then they let on.

Think about it. release an outdated console with revision after revision of boards closing off all forms of current hacking.
They could have just used the Wii to figure out as many security flaws as they can to put them into a new console in the next couple years.
Makes sense to me. try and out smart the hackers like sony did with the PS3


That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. A new console would have a new architecture, a new board, a new set of chips, it would be completely different.

This open a whole set of security holes for hackers to find and tinker with.

You seriously don't know what the hell you are talking about. BD-R's @ $5.28 a disc (http://www.tapeandmedia.com/blu-ray_disc.asp) have been available for MONTHS...."hackers" don't wait for disc prices to fall to release code.

Yeah $5 if you buy a 15 pack. The average price for a quality (sorry but I don't place Memorex under quality ...) disc is still $7 - $8 a disc. And that is just single layer 25gb discs. But I will agree that hackers don't wait. I agree with rdsworks in the fact the biggest reason for a lack of a hack right now is the fact homebrew is already possible on the system thru Linux.

[kneehighspy]

No ... without the chip (aka it was removed completely from the board and merged with another chip) the leads that you would normally solder to are no longer valid. All those alternate points, if they still exist, are pointless now to.

They will need to find a way to hack the new chip.




That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. A new console would have a new architecture, a new board, a new set of chips, it would be completely different.

This open a whole set of security holes for hackers to find and tinker with.



Yeah $5 if you buy a 15 pack. The average price for a quality (sorry but I don't place Memorex under quality ...) disc is still $7 - $8 a disc. And that is just single layer 25gb discs. But I will agree that hackers don't wait. I agree with rdsworks in the fact the biggest reason for a lack of a hack right now is the fact homebrew is already possible on the system thru Linux.


the prices on 25gb discs are reasonable, even in a single pack, not just a cake bundle. but the 50gb discs are ridiculous. i paid almost $30 each for 5 just the other day, with shipping it was over $165 just for 5 bd-r dl discs.

it's obvious that the market is being controlled on the media.

[Oner]

Yeah $5 if you buy a 15 pack. The average price for a quality (sorry but I don't place Memorex under quality ...) disc is still $7 - $8 a disc. And that is just single layer 25gb discs. But I will agree that hackers don't wait. I agree with rdsworks in the fact the biggest reason for a lack of a hack right now is the fact homebrew is already possible on the system thru Linux.

I would agree when discussing DVDR's that Memorex are not top quality but for BD's I haven't heard anything wrong with them. Plus I go by real world experience when it comes to media...I have used Princo 2x DVD-R's WAAAY back burned @ 8x and still don't have a problem with DRE's yet. Hell I don't even like Taiyo's! I prefer ProDiscs as they work in EVERYTHING I throw them in; from PS2's, original Xbox's & PC's to Wii's & PS3's they just work and are a bit less expensive to boot.

[Captain N1]

as long as soulder joints are exposed then a new chip can be attached.

I had an idea for a new circuit board. The ide ais to make a PCB that has 2 layers. in the middle of teh layer is all th esoulder joints and pins for the chips.
THis type of board has no exposed joints and therefor cant be souldered. Its like trying to get in the middle of a dvd's 2 layers of plastic to mod the foil layer that has teh data.

[pwntendo]

This was on wiinewz.com days ago and I posted it here on maxconsole in the wii hacking forum.

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=133220

Why are they linking some chinese site that nobody can read when wiinewz was the first source of the info? Apparently Zeus doesn't even read his own forum. These consoles have only been seen in Australia so far. Lets hope it is not widespread.

[wiggim]

are you serious? Not widespread? This is saving nintendo a ton of money on board fabs and manufacturing.. less components, not hackable.. Same idea as microsoft with their LiteOn drives..

Nintendo will spread these boards quick - by 09 everywhere I bet.. Which would be as soon as their supply dries up in all their fab plants and they can swap over to the new board.. just suprised that nintendo didn't do this D2C ago.

[wilson735]

So many people have the Wii though... I'm sure they'll be able to bypass this version real quick.

[Master747]

Wow... glad I got mine at launch...:eek: