View Full Version : MS: We're are some of you are expericing hiccups with NXE, looking into it
Major Nelson has posted an update relating to the New Xbox Experience and notes that MS is aware some of you are experiencing a 'few hiccups along the way'. Just a few hiccups major? We'd hardly called RRoD's a hiccup. Anyway, he continues that the team is looking into it and working on the issues...
As you can imagine, it's been an incredible day so far for the New Xbox Experience. It's great to see so much enthusiasm…it sounds like you are having fun exploring NXE. With an update of this magnitude, reaching more than 14 million people around the globe, we are aware some of you may be experiencing a few hiccups along the way. The LIVE team is closely monitoring the LIVE service and Xbox.com and are aware of a few issues including what's happening with Marketplace. The team is actively working on the issues, so thanks for bearing with us.
News Source: <A href="http://www.majornelson.com" target="_blank">MajorNelson.com</a>
harryisme
11-19-2008, 08:18 PM
MS: We're are some of you are expericing hiccups with NXE, looking into it
Um...you did finish high school right?
Though how they intend to fix the RROD hiccup I don't know.
killplaystation
11-19-2008, 08:24 PM
"We're are some of you are expericing hiccups with NXE, looking into it"
he's exactly right, They are the hiccups. Test the software correctly and release stable hardware, damn
GrYnder
11-19-2008, 08:27 PM
I actually don't mind this NXE thing. The only problem I have experienced so far (Which is a pretty prominent problem) is when I click a friend to view their profile, then back out to my friends list again the NXE just freezes for a random amount of time. Seems the only way I can get out of it it by hitting my XBOX button on my controller and waiting for the mini menu to appear. Which can take anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Wtf?
I actually don't mind this NXE thing. The only problem I have experienced so far (Which is a pretty prominent problem) is when I click a friend to view their profile, then back out to my friends list again the NXE just freezes for a random amount of time. Seems the only way I can get out of it it by hitting my XBOX button on my controller and waiting for the mini menu to appear. Which can take anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes. Wtf?
yeah same here, everything else is great though
its pretty much your own fault if it red rings.
Appleseed
11-19-2008, 08:42 PM
I am also experiencing random pauses while coming in and out of some menus, especially profile information and pages with information about games or marketplace.
blackmondo
11-19-2008, 08:57 PM
good to see I'm not the only one experiencing pauses, usually when backing out of menus. Apart from that though, the NXE is a massive improvement over the old UI.
offoxsmind
11-19-2008, 08:58 PM
RROD reports always fly like crazy anytime anything big releases on the 360. It's because people are spending more time playing on their machines than normal, and aggravating a problem that had problem been near terminal anyway. 360's, especially early models, die a lot. It's not NXE that's causing it. A tiny percentage of people are downloading the update, getting the RROD, and assuming the two situations are related. RROD is a hardware failure.
My friends console went RROD last week, do you suppose it was because it was afraid of the terrifying NXE update approaching?!?! :O! No, it was just bad timing, and bad hardware design. We've known about the bad hardware design for ages. Reporting this as NEWS, and not unfounded rumor is low-brow journalism.
As for menu loading issues, they're probably related to the terrible slowdown the LIVE is experiencing as a result of the influx of bandwidth demands from the NXE launch. When you back out of a menu, and the system has to check with the LIVE servers to pull display information, and the servers are responding slow, you get an apparent system lag.
At least, that's my take on the situation.
bonsc
11-19-2008, 09:09 PM
yeah same here, everything else is great though
its pretty much your own fault if it red rings.
Am having the same problem and i have to say i dont like it and whats with the girly little avatars:mad:.Quick question how do this cause rrod ive got an older 360 that i let my brother use when we go online but i know there gona be a time when i have no choice and update it and take a chance and it getting rrod
ps2 ps1 snes nes gba ... they all didnt have this hardware problem 'red ring of death' .. why install it to a system now .. its retarted .. if u dont install that then there would be no rrod lol like common!
KainXS
11-19-2008, 09:32 PM
i'm getting freeing but they only last like minute, it would be nice if they added a cell shading option to the avatars, i asked in beta but they said maybe in a future update.
kronikdaddy
11-19-2008, 09:48 PM
Works great for me, I think I like it.
DarkNikon
11-19-2008, 09:49 PM
RROD reports always fly like crazy anytime anything big releases on the 360. It's because people are spending more time playing on their machines than normal
That's odd.. when I wanted to play my PS3 more than normal, it functioned normally!
Anil8tr
11-19-2008, 10:00 PM
Only issue I had was Marketplace not displaying content. Haven't checked it since this afternoon to see if that has since been fixed. Other than that, both mine and my wife's 360 updated flawlessly.
fever
11-19-2008, 10:03 PM
i got RROD its not happening any more tho
iLLNESS
11-19-2008, 10:12 PM
ps2 ps1 snes nes gba ... they all didnt have this hardware problem 'red ring of death' .. why install it to a system now .. its retarted .. if u dont install that then there would be no rrod lol like common!
snes didnt have much issue.. nes? lol oh yeah.. you remember blowing into your carts? i know everyone else in the world did
ps1? well early units failed miserably (laser department)
ps2? RED SCREEN OF DEATH ANYONE?
ps3? blinking lights?!?1 omg
every console has their problem.. people just pick on m$ cuz they dont like the company.. plus the red ring went a little overboard and every flamer on the internet jumped on the bandwagon..
either way.. earlier consoles werent near as complex as consoles nowadays.
tralalawala
11-19-2008, 11:00 PM
every console has their problem.. people just pick on m$ cuz they dont like the company..
Not really - people "pick on MS" because of the severity of the problem
plus the red ring went a little overboard and every flamer on the internet jumped on the bandwagon..
Overboard? They have a 30% failure rate, I think people have been more than restrained.
either way.. earlier consoles werent near as complex as consoles nowadays.
Comparatively (for the technology available at the time) they where exactly the same.
It's because people are spending more time playing on their machines than normal, and aggravating a problem that had problem been near terminal anyway. 360's, especially early models, die a lot. It's not NXE that's causing it.
Just like smoking doesn't cause lung-cancer.
Don't blame NXE though, blame MS' shoddy hardware.
JohnsShadow
11-19-2008, 11:22 PM
why dosent M$ stop using X-clams in there x360?
removeing the xclam would arguably solve the problem
hey lets put a heat sink over the vcard that bends the motherboard durring long periods of play
that way people half to buy a new one every 2 years...
BLAME the X-Clamp!!!
Calidrifter
11-19-2008, 11:45 PM
snes didnt have much issue.. nes? lol oh yeah.. you remember blowing into your carts? i know everyone else in the world did
ps1? well early units failed miserably (laser department)
ps2? RED SCREEN OF DEATH ANYONE?
ps3? blinking lights?!?1 omg
every console has their problem.. people just pick on m$ cuz they dont like the company.. plus the red ring went a little overboard and every flamer on the internet jumped on the bandwagon..
either way.. earlier consoles werent near as complex as consoles nowadays.
ps3 blinking lights????:confused:
offoxsmind
11-19-2008, 11:47 PM
That's odd.. when I wanted to play my PS3 more than normal, it functioned normally!
That's because the PS3 is a well designed piece of hardware, while the 360 was rushed out the door. I never said otherwise, nor did I condone the problem, if you'd read my entire rant. My point is, that we have people jumping to conclusions, as we do every time their is a major game release (Halo 3, Fallout 3, Bioshock) claiming that this new software is causing the RROD, when anyone who has studied the problem knows that it is related to a persistent hardware malfunction, generally caused by warping of the motherboard.
If I open the local theatre and show only porn movies for free, all showings, for a week, and the following week I come in and find that the floor is sticky, I don't jump to the conclusion that porn movies cause sticky floors. That's a half-assed jump in logic, and sound decisions are never based on half-assed jumps in logic.
I'm not playing favorites here, unlike some on this forum. I'm simply getting tired of seeing these blown-out-of-proportion articles being called news, when there is no hard information to back them up. If there was a firm statistical backing for the claims that NXE=RROD, that would be a different story.
On the 11th of last month we had a stupid article about how Fallout 3 was killing PS3's, also with no real backing to support it. It was just another example of baseless rumor being reported as fact. News is supposed to be informative.
We've all seen Maxconsole news articles listed with RUMOR at the begining. Why isn't this consistent when dealing with rumors?
It's annoying, as are the prerequisite fanboy replies that end up in every thread.
Sepioth
11-20-2008, 12:33 AM
Everything is running fine for me.
Any lag experienced while doing ANYTHING on LIVE right now is expected. Weather it be the Marketplace or looking at friends profiles. This requires access to LIVE servers which, unless you are all idiots to realize this, is being hammered right now with people downloading the update and checking it out.
Give it some time and it will be working as fast as it was before ...
At least they didn't crash this time.
every time the rrod word gets thrown around people just go crazy, if you are stupid enough to put your box inside a closed entertainment center, against a wall, or on top of a cable box or receiver then bummer for you.
I got freezes while downloading the update, while updating itself and after the update.
I had to disconnect the power cord very often and got randomly RRODs (plus heart attacks :rolleyes:). After endless attempts I got NXE working with freezing screen all the time. It was ok after I got to the system settings > memory and resettet my cache.
Til now it's working fine without crashes.
QrafTee
11-20-2008, 01:45 AM
RROD... not surprised since there are variation in parts from when the 360 first launched to now. So something MS releases now may not work as intended across all their Xbox 360 consoles. Hopefully the number of RROD is just exaggerated this time around.
snes didnt have much issue.. nes? lol oh yeah.. you remember blowing into your carts? i know everyone else in the world did
ps1? well early units failed miserably (laser department)
ps2? RED SCREEN OF DEATH ANYONE?
ps3? blinking lights?!?1 omg
every console has their problem.. people just pick on m$ cuz they dont like the company.. plus the red ring went a little overboard and every flamer on the internet jumped on the bandwagon..
either way.. earlier consoles werent near as complex as consoles nowadays.
Yes, the whole 1 out of 3 Xbox 360 thing would RROD--though not true anymore--had no affect on the bad PR Microsoft was getting... Microsoft knowing about it and still releasing it also... just bad PR by the anti-MS bandwagon.
DugFreez
11-20-2008, 02:50 AM
The issue with the freezing when backing out of your friends list is caused when the friend you are viewing has a custom avatar GAMERPIC. It seems that the 360 has trouble downloading these pics (probably because the servers were so busy) and if you try to back out of that friends profile while it is still downloading...it causes the 360 to freeze.
jay123_2
11-20-2008, 03:14 AM
All working fine for me
Was in a party then sudenly people left but that could of been a prob with my isp as i was hosting it
Also had to redownload codecs again but apart from that no probs here
Nice Work M$ @ last
:D
PSPWAD
11-20-2008, 03:20 AM
Comparatively (for the technology available at the time) they where exactly the same.
While true with the complexity of the systems, the older systems did not use as much energy, thus not producing as much heat.
Don't worry guz. duh winter is coming to cool down the unusual heat from the new xbox NXE RROD!
ronaldospet
11-20-2008, 04:06 AM
Something everyone may want to take into account.
My friend hasn't updated his and he got the red ring of light but then it has gone away like all the other cases so that leads me to think it may be the doing of a) a new update off of the games discs or b) a new game full stop as some people are fine yet others are having thte exact same experience of it RROD then it working again yet my friend just happens to have the same problem when he gets GOW 2 on around the exact same time as others.
Do any of the people getting this RROD own GOW 2 as there maybe a problem with that not NXE, maybe not but it seems coincidental that my friends goes the same way when he hasn't done the update.
twoboys
11-20-2008, 05:23 AM
every time the rrod word gets thrown around people just go crazy, if you are stupid enough to put your box inside a closed entertainment center, against a wall, or on top of a cable box or receiver then bummer for you.
This is the point exactly with the RROD!
M$ launched this unit well aware of the hardware defects, and that is a well documented fact. Why should you NOT be able to put your 360 inside your entertainment cabinet next to your Wii, PS3 and your sat / cable box?
Patango
11-20-2008, 05:48 AM
"We're are some of you are expericing hiccups with NXE, looking into it"
"We are are"?????
slasher_uk
11-20-2008, 07:26 AM
That's because the PS3 is a well designed piece of hardware, while the 360 was rushed out the door. I never said otherwise, nor did I condone the problem, if you'd read my entire rant. My point is, that we have people jumping to conclusions, as we do every time their is a major game release (Halo 3, Fallout 3, Bioshock) claiming that this new software is causing the RROD, when anyone who has studied the problem knows that it is related to a persistent hardware malfunction, generally caused by warping of the motherboard.
If I open the local theatre and show only porn movies for free, all showings, for a week, and the following week I come in and find that the floor is sticky, I don't jump to the conclusion that porn movies cause sticky floors. That's a half-assed jump in logic, and sound decisions are never based on half-assed jumps in logic.
I'm not playing favorites here, unlike some on this forum. I'm simply getting tired of seeing these blown-out-of-proportion articles being called news, when there is no hard information to back them up. If there was a firm statistical backing for the claims that NXE=RROD, that would be a different story.
On the 11th of last month we had a stupid article about how Fallout 3 was killing PS3's, also with no real backing to support it. It was just another example of baseless rumor being reported as fact. News is supposed to be informative.
We've all seen Maxconsole news articles listed with RUMOR at the begining. Why isn't this consistent when dealing with rumors?
It's annoying, as are the prerequisite fanboy replies that end up in every thread.
M8 pop over to the ps3 forums they are dropping like flies. and before i get accused of fanboyism i own a launch day 60gig vip :) model, a nintendo wii and a 360.
kilodelta
11-20-2008, 08:19 AM
We'd hardly called RRoD's a hiccup.
theres some media bias if i ever saw it.
Blades
11-20-2008, 08:36 AM
That's odd.. when I wanted to play my PS3 more than normal, it functioned normally!
It's good to see that SOMEONE is using there PS3 more than normal. Hopefully not just to watch movies.....
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its pretty much your own fault if it red rings.
How do you explane that then can you come to my house and tell my 7 year old son its his fault his 360 got 3 red lights
i just bought a whisper max for it tho so onse i put some real paste on the gou and fix the clamps it should be all ok
el username
11-20-2008, 08:47 AM
How do you explane that then can you come to my house and tell my 7 year old son its his fault his 360 got 3 red lights
i just bought a whisper max for it tho so onse i put some real paste on the gou and fix the clamps it should be all ok
But the issue with your console is not the NXE update. Yours is a hardware fault.
I haven't had any problems....
I suspect the RRoD rumors are from PS3 fanboys...
I mean inserting a game into a dvd drive or downloading software won't cause your unit to instantly overheat.
People sometimes confuse the 4 red lights on the ring as the RRod but it just means they need to check their video cords:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/906652
kneehighspy
11-20-2008, 10:26 AM
well when i installed nxe last week, my box did rrod, but i came up with the 'upside down compressed air into all the vents trick' and after all the sizzling, clicking and popping of nice cold compressed freon hitting all the hot parts, it's worked 100% since, with many long hours of use.
also, live and nxe were wonderful before the update was released, everything from the servers were quick and very responsive. so perhaps folks need to realize that 8-10 million people are trying to update and use live.
this was bound to happen since this update was a timed update, and everyone knew when it was coming and this was an anxiously awaited update, so everyone i'm sure jumped online yesterday to get it.
of course before this post, i was always caused an xbot by leethaxor. but since i've stated i got an rrod, now i'll be labeled a sony fanboy finally after all this time ;)
grapeape
11-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Launch 360 here and no problems with the update...for what its worth. I would like to know what im doing differently...just lucky I guess. New dashboard is ok I guess but I think its kinda bland compared to the blades, maybe I need a better theme.
rupter13612
11-20-2008, 11:34 AM
The new dashboard is fucking fake as hell and I want my old one back!!!!!
Rabbid Hamptser
11-24-2008, 01:41 PM
Heres the deal. I've owned 2 xbox 360's. The first was an earlier model that i knew at some point would probably red ring(and it did). The second was a brand new replacement that was with the new "fixed" hardware. Since my replacement I have not had one problem with freezing, lockups, or rings until this update. For those saying its fanboy lies well guess what its xbox owner reality for me. Yea its a hardware failure code but guess what firmware drives hardware so the problem lies with MS's forced update. Why should I be forced to upgrade MY console to use it only to have it fucking tank on me. And the theory that I use it more because its a "new exciting and completely enticing experience" is bull ****. I work I go to school my playing habits have not changed one bit. I think to have an update that is mandatory requires MS to face the music immediately or prepare themselves for a barrage of lawsuits.
Side note: I do not own a PS3 :)
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