PLEASE READ: Clock Problem (Boot Loop)

[AlcoholFuelled]

The reboot problem or 'boot loop' is a KNOWN problem with the Soft Mod procedure. At this time there is currently NO known fix.

Contrary to what a lot of people may tell you it is NOT anything to do with the Phoenix Loader files BUT to do with the Fonts files (ernie and bert, or alternatives).

While it seems that everyone has a 'fix' or a 'method' for stopping this boot problem, I will tell you right now that this is NOT the case. Again there is NO fix.

It is generally caused by disconnecting the Xbox from a power souce for a long period of time (generally 45mins+).

The only way to recover from this loop unfortunatly is to allow the Xbox to keep rebooting over and over agian untill it loads the dash.


While there is not a fix, it does appear that certain Xboxs have a 'ressistance' to it so to speak and never seem to have any problem apart from a changed clock. This does not mean the problem isnt there. Different Xboxs work better with different font releases (bigfonts, reloaded) but while you may want to try these, there is no promise that it will have any effect.


Cheers
AlcoholFuelled

[keldog]

Thankz AlcoholFuelled! This clears alot of my confusion. And thankz for all the work you guys have done on this!

A question:
I've got a box stuck in the loop and I've let it run 3 different times for 6-8 hours. Each time it gets the blank screen and the red/green blink, but hasn't ever kicked into the dash. Is it likely that it never will?

[NeroWolf]

I have the boot-loop problem as well. However, I booted it earlier this morning and it started right up. Went directly to the Phoenix dash, and had no problems playing one game of Halo before I left for class. I got back and went to play again (it had been plugged in this WHOLE TIME), and it went back into the loop. No idea how to fix this either... maybe solder a clock-battery onto the board?

-Nero

[Q-Bert]

YEP thats the problem am having :( so its oput the box and ill see if it restart again :D so ill loave it till morning and if it still wont play ball its going bak to the shop for its replacement

[lenselijer]

try to connect your xbox direct to your cable modem by using an utp cable. Then let it boot. It boots for me after 2 tries :)

[keldog]

Gave up and took it back for replacement...

[vintage_guitar]

I believe the bootup problem is due to the xboxdash.xbe rather than the fonts, because if you have a modded xbox, you can edit the xboxdash.xbe in C too look for XFT rather than XTF..but for the softmod..it won't matter because you cannot make any changes to the original EVEN IF YOU RESIGN.

[BigGanja]

I did Xploit for a friend of mine

He got Reset loops , After plugging in Eternet cable it works

but then it will reoccur AGAIN, when cable is NOT present

What causes this i tell ya all now

U R swapping around the .XFT so the MSDash that looks for them cannot see them Right and resulting in the dash not working

So if ya do an Xploit at all make sure MSDash i up and running then u WONT run into them problems at all

thought i would mention tho' When i get this FAR WITH a WORKING Xploit, my suggestion is, u cannot use XBox LIVE anyhow Flash the TSOP and install Slayers, or simular or put Everything BACK to orignal state ADDIND EvoXdash.xbe and evox.ini, then u will ALWAYS be modded up, with BOTH EVO-X and MSDash

this way runs perfect and Console acts like it has a REAL chip inside, If ya too cheap/Lazy or cannot solder a chip inside ur system this i would reccomend is DEFINATLY the way to go

DO NOT USE AUDIO XPLOIT EITHER, I HAVE FOUND A FLAW WITH THIS ALSO !!! PLZ READ OTHER THREAD

[MonkeyInABox]

Originally posted by BigGanja
U R swapping around the .XFT so the MSDash that looks for them cannot see them Right and resulting in the dash not working.
So if ya do an Xploit at all make sure MSDash i up and running then u WONT run into them problems at all.

can this be done using the action replay option shown in the pheonix loader tutorial (http://www.maxconsole.com/?mode=tutorials&feed=xbox&itemid=87) and if so at what point would you do this?

thought i would mention tho' When i get this FAR WITH a WORKING Xploit, my suggestion is, u cannot use XBox LIVE anyhow Flash the TSOP and install Slayers, or simular or put Everything BACK to orignal state ADDIND EvoXdash.xbe and evox.ini, then u will ALWAYS be modded up, with BOTH EVO-X and MSDash this way runs perfect and Console acts like it has a REAL chip inside,THIS ALSO !!! PLZ READ OTHER THREAD

if following the tutorial, at what point would you do this?

Ganja, I think it would be excellent if you would amend said tutorial with this info you put in this topic, but have it more indepth like which step to do these actions and go into more detail about how you do them.

:cool:

[BigGanja]

ok i would be happy to

MODS what ya think ?!

[AlcoholFuelled]

One step ahead of you ganja. I have been working on and off for a tutorial regarding TSOP flashing. I have had to retake a few pictures and stuff so it is taking longer than I intended but it IS coming.

MonkeyInABox, the process for doing a TSOP flash is not really related to my Phoenix tutorial so it will be an entirly different one.

[MariTrunks]

Yes, plugging in the network cable from your PC to your XBOX can stop resetloop. And once its stops you can remove the exploit and install the audio exploit which Ima using now :) All you need is a regular audio CD to boot into EVOX and play emus or Pirated games :)

[deejvc]

Originally posted by keldog
Thankz AlcoholFuelled! This clears alot of my confusion. And thankz for all the work you guys have done on this!

A question:
I've got a box stuck in the loop and I've let it run 3 different times for 6-8 hours. Each time it gets the blank screen and the red/green blink, but hasn't ever kicked into the dash. Is it likely that it never will?

having this problem also, what do i do?

[polyqueen]

I know this might sound simple, and I'm definately not a programmer, but if the loop is caused by the clock wanting to be set, why doesn't someone make a dashboard that will be able to set the reset clock? Sounds like an easy way to get out of it. I mean, that's the reason that the clock wants to boot to the MSDash right? To be set?

[vintage_guitar]

Originally posted by MariTrunks
Yes, plugging in the network cable from your PC to your XBOX can stop resetloop. And once its stops you can remove the exploit and install the audio exploit which Ima using now :) All you need is a regular audio CD to boot into EVOX and play emus or Pirated games :)
don't post nonsense, this helps maybe 30% of the people (plugging in network cable)

[guysurf]

UDE fellas......the forum died huh??

[s0ftm0d]

Yeah, check out ltools for UDE or UDE2. Both of the softmods will not have the clockloop problem no matter how long you keep the box unplugged. I've left my box unplugged for a week, pluged her in and played right away. The softmod allows you to set the clock instead of going into the loop.

[starbuck]

Hello

This is my first post but I have seen this several times b4 and would like to contribute:

http://www.xbox-linux.org/Clock_Loop_Problem_HOWTO

Ideally, what you are trying to do is to change the timings of the start-up sequence by milliseconds, this can be done by the DVD drive trying to mount a poor quality CD, A ethernet connection talking to a router etc.

Read the above HOW TO and this should fix your problem

Starbuck

[twmastertw]

ok hey i got a question not about this thread how do you download trainers from this messed up downloads place

[itsbmw]

this was happening to me after i would mod a friends xbox all u do is change the year by like 2 years and itll leave you alone :):eek:

[dooooood6]

this is actually easy to fix if you have an eeprom backup on your computer ( which you should have done when you first installed the softmod)
If you have the eeprom backup you can use xboxhdm to restore your xbox to retail, in which the xbox will be able to reset the clock. then you can re-softmod your xbox.
xboxhdm and the xbox dash can be found in the usual places.

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[HittingKarma]

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[jacobclinester]

i dont know if any ones already posted this but one way you can fix the loop is
to take a harddrive of at least 8gigs and use xbox hdm to create an orginal stock xbox hd so that you can set the clock then put your softmoded hd back in
then you dont lose anything or have to re softmod it.