Xbox Live gets political, informal poll on September 9th

[Zeus]

As of September 9th, Xbox 360 owners will be able to cast their vote (informally) on the state of America politically. You will be able to download a gamerpic for either McCain, Obama, Other or undecided with the poll results to be posted up at the official Xbox website. Anyone who enters the poll will have the chance to win a Gibson guitar - fun fun!

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[buggyglint1]

Obama my nigga!

[pezjono]

Obama my nigga!

Not that I support your racism... but,

He is "technically" only 6% black (African American).

His father was 12% + mother was 0% (or so I have heard, you know how lies get made up all the time during elections!)

[Mikeyy]

Obama my nigga!

Wow, that pretty sad, that you vote for somebody solely on the notion, that he is "Black".

It's also pretty dumb that Obama can't give his Supporters clear answers to any of his beleifs or stances, He has a non-existant voting record in the senate. He HAS to fucking do something if he expects america to vote for him.

McCain is sweeping the election at the moment in terms of what matters most to Americans.

Can't wait for the Obama VS. McCain Debate.

Obama's going down the Kerry path, "I HAVE A PLAN" but will never tell us what the heck it is!

Very dissapointed with Obama personally.

[eagles5769]

Cool, I will be voting for McCain and replacing my 7-UP gamerpic with a McCain one.;)

[EL_CAD]

Wow, that pretty sad, that you vote for somebody solely on the notion, that he is "Black".

It's also pretty dumb that Obama can't give his Supporters clear answers to any of his beleifs or stances, He has a non-existant voting record in the senate. He HAS to fucking do something if he expects america to vote for him.

McCain is sweeping the election at the moment in terms of what matters most to Americans.

Can't wait for the Obama VS. McCain Debate.

Obama's going down the Kerry path, "I HAVE A PLAN" but will never tell us what the heck it is!

Very dissapointed with Obama personally.
Read a real news story for a change and leave this place to game related stuff:
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/09/08/voters-weighing-obama-mccain-tax-plans/


As for games: McCain/Palin is worse for gaming, because she has already shown that she believes in censorship. We need to be free to be able to buy the games we want, not what they say we can.

[Perseid]

This poll is going to be skewed. You know people are going to download the McCain just pic because he's so sexay.

[yusky03]

Politics makes my head hurt... *leaves*

[splattered]

So who is everyone voting for? :P

[eagles5769]

So who is everyone voting for? :P

McCAIN/PALIN 2008!!!

We will be in severe trouble if Obama becomes president:mad:

[Colmino]

A vote taken online is going to be skewed because people online are generally better-informed (by facts, a-la Youtube etc.) than folks who rely upon mass media. Obama wins such votes handily.

Who really knows how a vote aimed at gamers will turn out. Gamers don't necessarily make a point of being informed.

As for the fellow suggesting that McCain is "sweeping", I'd like to know what color the sky is on his planet. While the race is far from easy to call at this stage, McCain has only swung into the positive for one brief instant; the rest of the time it's been Obama's game. And there are countless reasons for this. Racists who would never vote for Obama are, 99 times out of 100, already irretrievably Republican. McCain is a dead horse and his party knows it. Palin is a gimmick and the whole world knows it, plus she comes with a triple serving of incontrovertible scandal baggage. Most of all, people are just too darn sick of lies, corruption, war and economy woes. McCain has promised more war, shown he's a liar, accepted millions of lobbyist dollars, and, by association with the party responsible for all of the above, embodies the guarantee of further economic collapse. Regardless of just how brainwashed the Republican-born folks out there are, there comes a time when enough is enough.

This is not to say there's no chance of another Florida-style voting "fluke". But frankly, if we serve ourselves up another helping of McBush, we will have just as much accountability for the consequences as the German people did in the late 30s. And I won't begrudge our comeuppance.

One last point, re the debates. These will be tough to call. McCain is an imbecile and Obama is rather intelligent. In a fair debate, Obama would squash that pinhead. But the fact is that each of the debates are going to be handled by Republican interests, which means the questions are going to be staged in a manner which favors McCain before any answers are offered. This is famously how the Obama / Hillary debates panned out as well. So the real challenge for Obama will be his fight against the moderators, not McCain.

[poisonousjuice]

A vote taken online is going to be skewed because people online are generally better-informed (by facts, a-la Youtube etc.) than folks who rely upon mass media. Obama wins such votes handily.


republican or democrat... "people online are generally better-informed (by facts, a-la Youtube etc.)" ROFL! better informed via youtube? STFU!!!

[Colmino]

Well, Chief, take your pick. You have mass media news channels, which are known to be politically biased, as evidenced by the likes of Fox News, which is literally owned by the Republican party. Or you have videos, which are blunt, and often brutally unequivocal. See how they revealed Hillary's sniper fire snafu. See how they reveal Sarah Palin's ties to that Alaska Independence group. People with things to hide absolutely hate the likes of Youtube. That is why in a battle of truth, Youtube wins. I am unmoved by your mirth. ;p

[Robotron]

Politics makes my head hurt... *leaves*

Must agree. They are all corporate whores. Your vote just changes whos friends get favors and where the corporate dollars go.

[psychospeedster]

I was all for Obama, then I found out that he would switch certain policies in between states, cant speak without a prompter, failed as a community organizer, gave millions to convicted scum-lords for his projects that all went bankrupt, placed Biden with his shady history as his VP, found out bout his family history, and his making accusations that the Republicans were attacking him for being Muslim and Black when it was his own side doing so.

The more things that add up, the more he sounds like a tool and a puppet. Not only that but what has our Democratic congress done? Besides being the the least active and most under accomplished congress in the history of the US. Not to mention that the democrats were the ones who shut down congress because they refused to discuss exploring oil drilling to lessen energy dependency while we develop alternative energy sources.

I went democratic for the past two elections but Obama is making me go for the lesser of the two... least sh** will get done... better or for worse.... plus if he dies... Palin has at least some executive experience by being governor and mayor.... it might make it rough for gamers... but at least well will still be able to afford to buy buy games.

[Colmino]

Considering your diatribe is essentially a word-for-word from the GOP playbook - including all the items which are unsubstantiated (that means lies, folks) - I'll take the all-for-Obama preface with a grain of salt.

Can I play? I was all for McCain until I learned he flip-flops on policies based on public and party pressure, can't speak without making his own party cringe (hence a mandated reduction in his public appearances and media access), placed nearly dead last in his class, accepted millions in special-interest dollars from companies who wish to be permitted to continue their anti-consumer practices, picked Palin - with her pregnancy / troopergate / AIP scandals and breathtakingly obvious Hillary-vote purpose - as his VP, pretended she was fully vetted as opposed to a very hasty, party-influenced decision, and his browbeating the media for calling him on his Palin pick when the media is more traditionally in the pocket of the GOP.

The difference here, friend, is that one has to line up a series of misrepresentations and outright lies - faithfully supplied by the media to anyone willing to toe the line - to make Obama look bad, whereas McCain has proven himself multiple-fold unfit for the seat he seeks, and so in his case people must either assume he's the best choice without investigating the facts, or commit to a herculean scramble to assemble some sort of credibility for the poor guy.

Bob: You know, whenever a Republican is in office, the deficit goes downhill, there's frequently a recession, and wars are usually engaged. Here's a flowchart indicating such.
Fred: I don't believe you.
Bob: Fine. Have eight years of Republican rule.
[Fast forward to 2008]
Bob: Well, Fred, the economy is the worst it's been since the Depression, the country is hated perhaps more than ever in its entire history, we're still involved in a recent war, and it's probably best we don't discuss the deficit. Had enough?
Fred: Who cares. Fox News says Obama is really called Osama, so I'm voting for this senile racist over here.

Buddy, you vote for McCain, you're part of the problem.

[p1nky]

excuse but you americans are so full of **** it's beyond imaginable. if you really elect mccain it's the final proof you rightfully deserve the eurpen predjudice of being all totally stupid. i'd say your whole country should be declared a mental institution if you vote mccain.

it's funny when you read the comments in forums etc calling black people racist cause they vote obama 90% to 5% or so.

let me idiots tell you something: in europe (white people) we'd vote for obama 90% to 5% too...

you are so ridiculous... are you actually gonna vote for someone who wants to give women no rights of abortion even if she gets raped? who prolly will ban all porn if she can have it her way?

and then, and that really blows your mind - why the **** do you vote for someone who makes taxes that only the top 5% profit from....?

it's so beyond me what is going on in your retarded american brains...

bah...

but vote your mccain, you don't deserve any better anyway if you are THAT stupid....

greetings from europe where "liberal" is no swear word...

[blade732]

Enough of the same old politicians running Washington into the ground.

Stand for Change.
OBAMA '08

John McCain drummed up the war in Iraq a month after 9/11... before the Bush Administration did publicly. He's one of the people who helped lie us into war. check out his interview with letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMlae9krFc).

Oh, and he doesn't remember how many houses he owns. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6xR-_fvUOY) (He has 7)

Obama graduated the top of his class at Harvard.
McCain graduated 894th (out of 899) of his class at the Naval Academy. I've had a intellectually challenged president for the last 8 years.

Plus he said himself "I don't know much on the economy..." video of him saying that. (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_repeatedly_I_don_t_know_much_on_the_ec onomy)

Plus he's getting up there in age and had skin cancer on his face multiple times-- not necessarily a picture of health. If he ever kicked the bucket while in office, we'd have the hockey mom, moose hunting Sarah Palin in there. Who only became governor of Alaska around the time Obama BEGAN his running for president (shy of 2 years). Before that she was mayor of a town of 8,000 people- Imagine if she was in charge of our economy, our health care system, our education system, and our military...

We have the largest national debt since the great depression. Housing foreclosures and unemployment are skyrocketing. We can't have any more ignorant people running our government.

All in all, the Republicans have been in charge for the last 8 years and have royally f*cked things up. If we vote based on who is more like the average American joe-six pack, or based on heartwarming biography alone, we are putting our country's economy and all around infrastructure in jeopardy.

Obama at least, seems to me to have a middle-class aimed economic policy,while McCain's is basically a continuation of Bush's, which has put us where we are... Biden being on Obama's ticket will provide a great surrogate for foreign affairs and a better handling of foriegn policy. (since he's been the head of the Foreign Relations Committee).

If you're undecided I would seriously research both candidates more closely. If you're like me and a college student, struggling to pay for his tuition then take a look at their education policies. (Or the lack-there-of in McCain's case)
If you're going to vote for McCain then that's your prerogative... just don't be surprised if he wins the election and our country goes further down the sh*thole.

[RyoHazuk1]

If people weren't blinded by the media so much, and if the media gave Ron Paul as much attention as they did everyone else.


We'd be fine.


CAUSE THEN YOU ALL WOULD'VE VOTED RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES.

But no one did...I did though. :)


Ron Paul would've been the man.

[Xenogears V]

Politic away from videogames.

[onyxx]

Not that I support your racism... but,

He is "technically" only 6% black (African American).

His father was 12% + mother was 0% (or so I have heard, you know how lies get made up all the time during elections!)
wtf his father was from Kenya. How in the hell was he 12% black? have you even seen what his father looks like?
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0711/wsteele_1210.jpg
so that guy is 12% black?

[Happsai]

One last point, re the debates. These will be tough to call. McCain is an imbecile and Obama is rather intelligent. In a fair debate, Obama would squash that pinhead. But the fact is that each of the debates are going to be handled by Republican interests, which means the questions are going to be staged in a manner which favors McCain before any answers are offered. This is famously how the Obama / Hillary debates panned out as well. So the real challenge for Obama will be his fight against the moderators, not McCain.
I'm very happy to see that at least one person has this insight. It's already been happening on the Fox Noise channel. Just for kicks, I decided to compare Bill O'Reilly's "interview" with McCain and Obama (which was done recently). Here's how they differed:

O'Reilly: Sir, isn't it hard being you. All these far left loons are hating on you. :(
McCain: Yeah.
O'Reilly: How do you respond to your critics? Isn't it hard to stay tough?
McCain: My critics are wrong. I have to stay tough because I love my country.
O'Reilly: And you were tortured so long ago. You're so brave.

v.s.

O'Reilly: You want to take half my income away!!!
Obama: No, see that's not how the tax plan works, by influencing--
O'Reilly: --YES YOU DO! YES YOU DO!! YES YOU DO!!!!!!! :mad:
O'Reilly: You should admit that the surge worked and you were wrong.
Obama: Well, no. You see the purpose of the surge wasn't so much for decreasing violence, but for Iraqis to step up and assume responsibility for--
O'Reilly: YOU WERE WRONG! YOU WERE WRONG!! SAY IT! SAY IT!!!

As a side note I'll throw in a few thoughts that go together.
a) Just this morning, the daily Metro released a poll saying that Canadians prefer Obama by a 4 to 1 ratio.
b) It turns out that outside the United States, pretty much all countries agree with the previous statistic.
c) The United States of America is not an island. It must work with the other countries in the world.
d) Look beyond your own walls and understand the issues from a global perspective. How do others solve the problems that you now face?
e) I'm voting Conservative in Canada's October election. Figure that one out!;)

[EL_CAD]

Obama graduated the top of his class at Harvard.
McCain graduated 894th (out of 899) of his class at the Naval Academy. I've had a intellectually challenged president for the last 8 years.

McCain did horribly in high school, but some how got into the Naval Academy, because his family got him in.
McCain did just as bad at the Naval Acadmey but some how got into the elite Navy flight school, because his family got him in.

People ***** about how affiirmative action lets less qualified people in, but at least it's better then nepotism that lets in the completely unqualified.

[p1nky]

As a side note I'll throw in a few thoughts that go together.
a) Just this morning, the daily Metro released a poll saying that Canadians prefer Obama by a 4 to 1 ratio.
b) It turns out that outside the United States, pretty much all countries agree with the previous statistic.
c) The United States of America is not an island. It must work with the other countries in the world.
d) Look beyond your own walls and understand the issues from a global perspective. How do others solve the problems that you now face?
e) I'm voting Conservative in Canada's October election. Figure that one out!;)

i fear this argument won't help with the average american, they'll prolly think it's some evil plan to install a muppet so the rest of the world can crush the usa with obama in the lead or something. and they'll be inclined to vote mccain even more against their own interest.

i wonder why they don't let sylvester stallone run for president, i mean he has got even more hands on vietnam experience from rambo 2 than mccain has. i mean that just MUST qualify him as leader of the free world. oh yes and he could wear a flag pin too....

btw... obama's much critizised "cling to guns & religion"... SPOT ON.... but apparently people cannot take the truth - he's elitist... better put some dumbass right wing nut in the office instead....

[onyxx]

Enough of the same old politicians running Washington into the ground.

Stand for Change.
OBAMA '08

John McCain drummed up the war in Iraq a month after 9/11... before the Bush Administration did publicly. He's one of the people who helped lie us into war. check out his interview with letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMlae9krFc).

Oh, and he doesn't remember how many houses he owns. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6xR-_fvUOY) (He has 7)

Obama graduated the top of his class at Harvard.
McCain graduated 894th (out of 899) of his class at the Naval Academy. I've had a intellectually challenged president for the last 8 years.

Plus he said himself "I don't know much on the economy..." video of him saying that. (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_repeatedly_I_don_t_know_much_on_the_ec onomy)

Plus he's getting up there in age and had skin cancer on his face multiple times-- not necessarily a picture of health. If he ever kicked the bucket while in office, we'd have the hockey mom, moose hunting Sarah Palin in there. Who only became governor of Alaska around the time Obama BEGAN his running for president (shy of 2 years). Before that she was mayor of a town of 8,000 people- Imagine if she was in charge of our economy, our health care system, our education system, and our military...

We have the largest national debt since the great depression. Housing foreclosures and unemployment are skyrocketing. We can't have any more ignorant people running our government.

All in all, the Republicans have been in charge for the last 8 years and have royally f*cked things up. If we vote based on who is more like the average American joe-six pack, or based on heartwarming biography alone, we are putting our country's economy and all around infrastructure in jeopardy.

Obama at least, seems to me to have a middle-class aimed economic policy,while McCain's is basically a continuation of Bush's, which has put us where we are... Biden being on Obama's ticket will provide a great surrogate for foreign affairs and a better handling of foriegn policy. (since he's been the head of the Foreign Relations Committee).

If you're undecided I would seriously research both candidates more closely. If you're like me and a college student, struggling to pay for his tuition then take a look at their education policies. (Or the lack-there-of in McCain's case)
If you're going to vote for McCain then that's your prerogative... just don't be surprised if he wins the election and our country goes further down the sh*thole.

you pretty much summed up McCain but you left a few things out about Obama.

Obama lead a small civil rights movement in some neighborhoods in Detroit, was a lawyer for a few years, and while in the senate managed to dodge every controversial bill that came across congress(even one of them he set up himself with McCain). What experience does this guy have an what in the hell does he stand for?

I don't think either candidate is worthy. It really comes down to the vice president because McCain will probably die of old age during his term, and Obama would most likely get assassinated by some racist clan.

[snipersnake]

I wonder which one of them who would suck Zionist acts faster :D

[blade732]

wtf his father was from Kenya. How in the hell was he 12% black? have you even seen what his father looks like?
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0711/wsteele_1210.jpg
so that guy is 12% black?

this argument is stupid. who the hell cares if the guy was 92% green?! if his ideas are better than the other guy, I'm gonna vote for him.

[blade732]

you pretty much summed up McCain but you left a few things out about Obama.

Obama lead a small civil rights movement in some neighborhoods in Detroit, was a lawyer for a few years, and while in the senate managed to dodge every controversial bill that came across congress(even one of them he set up himself with McCain). What experience does this guy have an what in the hell does he stand for?

I don't think either candidate is worthy. It really comes down to the vice president because McCain will probably die of old age during his term, and Obama would most likely get assassinated by some racist clan.

Obama turned down a huge 6 figure income job on wall street with a superb college resume and all, to organize and help people in inner cities in Chicago help themselves after steel plants closed, and got them back to work. As a fresh face in politics, he put his political career on the line and spoke out against the war 2 weeks before the vote (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUV69LZbCNQ) while everyone else, especially McCain was gung-ho for this war in Iraq. this war by latest calculation has cost us 576.5 BILLION dollars.

Fast forward to 2008, obama called for a time table to withdraw from iraq 16 months of his coming into office, and was scolded for it by McCain at first. Then the iraqi government came out and said that they wanted the US to start a timetable for withdrawl. Then even the Bush Administration set up a "time horizon" of 2011(because horizon is far different from a table). Then McCain, after being upstaged by Obama along with the Bush Admin, set his own - 2013... i think these events speak for themselves that obama's vision is one we need in the white house right now. people have to realize how costly this war is, and how it is mutually exclusive to our economic woes right now. that amount of money could've put every american citizen through 4 years of college and then some.

the only point im making is Americans shouldn't have any problem voting for someone who is more intelligent than they are. they would probably do a terrific job. people voted "barbecue" in 2000 and fear in 2004, and this is where it's gotten us. people for some reason like this idea that we need to vote for the guy who's most like us. and we're for the most part a dumb country. if he has good ideas, and seems to make the right judgment, then take a f*ckin chance and vote for the intelligent black man.

just to add: i left out his state senate dodges. for the most part they were protest votes for pork that was in the bills that was filled with wasteful spending and government reach-arounds. so while the premise of these bills was good, and had certain measures that was helpful to Illinois in them, he voted present for those votes. while im sure that not all of these times was the case, again I support him based upon the policies he outlines and McCain outlines on their websites- im not saying he isn't a politician.

[3CO-10]

WOW.... you people are completely pathetic.... Can anyone back why they are voting for Mccain and that MIlf?

How about OBAMA? Anyone can justify that choice....

Everyone here seems to be judging by appearance than by anything else. Look at the republicans... McCain is in the lead only because of Palin... Proving again that people don't have any clue who or what they are voting for.

I was watching CNN and they were asking women if they would come to a Mccain convention if there was no Palin, they said no.... but now they went there just because of her. Then when asked why they would vote with her on the ticket.... they said, "because she is a woman and she is sincere?"

WTF does that have to do with being VP? What happens if Mccain Dies... you really feel comfortable with her in office, with 5 months experience as a governor of no mans land?

And then we have obama.... Don't even get me started on him. He promises change... and i respect that, we do need change from this bullsh1t that we endured for 8 years. But how do we go about doing that? He speaks out of his ass like these things can just happen over night without any sacrifices. He just fills people minds with hope.... not with facts.

[onyxx]

this argument is stupid. who the hell cares if the guy was 92% green?! if his ideas are better than the other guy, I'm gonna vote for him.
the only point im making is Americans shouldn't have any problem voting for someone who is more intelligent than they are. they would probably do a terrific job. people voted "barbecue" in 2000 and fear in 2004, and this is where it's gotten us. people for some reason like this idea that we need to vote for the guy who's most like us. and we're for the most part a dumb country. if he has good ideas, and seems to make the right judgment, then take a f*ckin chance and vote for the intelligent black man.
what are you exactly trying to say here? I thought color wasn't the issue

[psychospeedster]

WOW.... you people are completely pathetic.... Can anyone back why they are voting for Mccain and that MIlf?

How about OBAMA? Anyone can justify that choice....

Everyone here seems to be judging by appearance than by anything else. Look at the republicans... McCain is in the lead only because of Palin... Proving again that people don't have any clue who or what they are voting for.


I know my reasoning seems pretty stupid... but I'm voting for McCain because I am against Obama. Not for race or Religion, but for the fact that he cannot speak without a prompter, his only executive experience is as a community organizer (least palin was actually in charge of something as mayor and governor and made decisions were oboma dodged almost every major issue), hes flip flopped on every issue he has spoken about (sometimes back and forth between states even), and he is using his black ethnicity and religion as a crutch (this pisses me off greatly, it is something n**gers do, not what a presidential runner should be do)

I have nothing against Obama, but he seems nothing more than a puppet of the Democratic party that is incapable of leading in his own choices. The TV media sees him as a god, which worries me greatly...

With McCain, at least hes a bit more consistent in his views and I can actually respect his choice of Palin. People who vote for Obama, please, you have no right to judge her because of her experience. I personally think they compliment each other well. McCain will live long enough that war time line (which has been universal on both sides) follows thru, then he can happily croak and Palin can take over for Energy Policy. And by the way McCain and Palin do NOT want to make all abortion illegal, Palin (at least) believes if the aborted fetus is living, it should be allowed to live. At the most, it will come down to if the mothers life is in danger.

We live in the age of information, so why is it that we are still so ignorant about our own government? Republican and Democratic differences have dwindled over the years. Since the Democrats took majority and saved congress from the Republicans, they have done nothing but raise their salaries (they are histories most inactive congress ever). Bush was a mistake from the beginning, he had the info about 911 and even threats that it would happen and did nothing. Clinton was cool, did lots of coke, and secretly bombed bridges in another country while using other issues as a cover up. Regan (who was a media doll) did everything he could to get office (sound familiar? *coughobamacough*) and tried to outlaw porn along with his war on drugs, both failing (WoD caused crime rate hikes and crowded jails while pushing people to harder more addictive and dangerous drugs)(whole porn thing wasted tons of our money just to find out absolutely nothing). The broadcast media is always influenced by government, fear gets better ratings and control than the good, the truth is often over looked. We should not rely on actors for political opinions (they are very hard working btw), they seem to miss out on many factors.

Im rambling... sorry, my point is... we fucked up yet again and we have an old Republican with an Alaskan hockey mom on one side and on the other side we have the furthest left wing Democratic puppet and secret bomber on the other.

Both potential presidents have a high probability of dieing on us. So if the one dies, we have a hockey mom that at least has experience leading, or an old war loving democrat that would be worse than if McCain lives through his term. As long as its not Bush, I can deal with what the Republicans dish out, but I will pass on a Democrat that reminds me of Regan and the last thing we need is a full Democratic control on congress, senate, and presidency...

In the USA we have checks and balances... if its vetoed the the president a 2/3rds vote by congress can overturn the veto... it is a balance... we either need a rep congress with a democratic president (like the Clinton run, weren't those great times), or a dem congress with a rep president (though currently congress does **** and bush should of never followed daddy)

Oh and for those polls that they show online and over the phones.... does anyone realize how much lean towards Obama on every question? Yet he still is stuck neck and neck with McCain... doesn't that seem weird to you?

[3CO-10]

I know my reasoning seems pretty stupid... but I'm voting for McCain because I am against Obama. Not for race or Religion, but for the fact that he cannot speak without a prompter, his only executive experience is as a community organizer (least palin was actually in charge of something as mayor and governor and made decisions were oboma dodged almost every major issue), hes flip flopped on every issue he has spoken about (sometimes back and forth between states even), and he is using his black ethnicity and religion as a crutch (this pisses me off greatly, it is something n**gers do, not what a presidential runner should be do)

I have nothing against Obama, but he seems nothing more than a puppet of the Democratic party that is incapable of leading in his own choices. The TV media sees him as a god, which worries me greatly...

With McCain, at least hes a bit more consistent in his views and I can actually respect his choice of Palin. People who vote for Obama, please, you have no right to judge her because of her experience. I personally think they compliment each other well. McCain will live long enough that war time line (which has been universal on both sides) follows thru, then he can happily croak and Palin can take over for Energy Policy. And by the way McCain and Palin do NOT want to make all abortion illegal, Palin (at least) believes if the aborted fetus is living, it should be allowed to live. At the most, it will come down to if the mothers life is in danger.

We live in the age of information, so why is it that we are still so ignorant about our own government? Republican and Democratic differences have dwindled over the years. Since the Democrats took majority and saved congress from the Republicans, they have done nothing but raise their salaries (they are histories most inactive congress ever). Bush was a mistake from the beginning, he had the info about 911 and even threats that it would happen and did nothing. Clinton was cool, did lots of coke, and secretly bombed bridges in another country while using other issues as a cover up. Regan (who was a media doll) did everything he could to get office (sound familiar? *coughobamacough*) and tried to outlaw porn along with his war on drugs, both failing (WoD caused crime rate hikes and crowded jails while pushing people to harder more addictive and dangerous drugs)(whole porn thing wasted tons of our money just to find out absolutely nothing). The broadcast media is always influenced by government, fear gets better ratings and control than the good, the truth is often over looked. We should not rely on actors for political opinions (they are very hard working btw), they seem to miss out on many factors.

Im rambling... sorry, my point is... we fucked up yet again and we have an old Republican with an Alaskan hockey mom on one side and on the other side we have the furthest left wing Democratic puppet and secret bomber on the other.

Both potential presidents have a high probability of dieing on us. So if the one dies, we have a hockey mom that at least has experience leading, or an old war loving democrat that would be worse than if McCain lives through his term. As long as its not Bush, I can deal with what the Republicans dish out, but I will pass on a Democrat that reminds me of Regan and the last thing we need is a full Democratic control on congress, senate, and presidency...

In the USA we have checks and balances... if its vetoed the the president a 2/3rds vote by congress can overturn the veto... it is a balance... we either need a rep congress with a democratic president (like the Clinton run, weren't those great times), or a dem congress with a rep president (though currently congress does **** and bush should of never followed daddy)

Oh and for those polls that they show online and over the phones.... does anyone realize how much lean towards Obama on every question? Yet he still is stuck neck and neck with McCain... doesn't that seem weird to you?

I was a democrat since I was old enough to reason properly with my brain.... then I learned that my reasoning wasn't all that great, and I have become an independent. Both parties have strayed too far from their core believes, that... and they are to blinded in themselves... leading this country to a downward spiral of corruption and failed policies. This country is in dire need of a multi party system, because the direction these two parties are going is just making matters worse than they ever could be.

In 2004 I voted for Kerry, just because I hate bush, he is an abomination to this country... and with a president like him, I feel embarrased to call myself an American.

This time around I could care less about neither of the candidates.... so basically I'm doing an Eenie meenie miny mo deal... and whoever it lands on get my vote. That is the only thing I can really do, considering there is no one else to vote for, and ralph nader is just a waste of a vote... he never stands a chance...

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I know my reasoning seems pretty stupid... but I'm voting for McCain because I am against Obama. Not for race or Religion...

...he is using his black ethnicity and religion as a crutch (this pisses me off greatly, it is something n**gers do, not what a presidential runner should be do)Talk out of both sides of your mouth much? Well at least we now know you for the bigot you are.


....the furthest left wing Democratic puppet and secret bomber on the other.

WTF??? furthest left Democrat? How many pills did you take? I could name a whole lot of more left Democrats. Dennis Kucinich would be near the leftmost of the Democrats. I don't think he's puppet, but he looks like one so that counts.
And Secret Bomber? The Manchurian Candidate, the one with Sinatra, was much better movie. John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.