RROD GPU solder joints reflow fix video

[Zeus]

Below is a video from iHacked shows you how to fix a RROD Xbox 360 by re-flowing the GPU solder joints. <i>"Generally, the 3rrod error is caused by a solder problem, where points on the GPU/CPU have worked loose – or a temperature problem causing the same result. Following this guide, you should be able to fix these joints, quickly and easily! We have used this process to repair over 10 Xbox360s successfully."</i> Definitely not one for the faint hearted. (Thanks [ACF]Umax).

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News Source: <a href="http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/05/11/xbox360-rings-of-death-fix-overheat-solder-reflow/" target=_blank">hackedgadgets</a>

[legendofphil]

Didn't know the PS3 suffered from RROD as well.

[fearevil19]

LOL wrong section

[The_Doctor]

Didn't know the PS3 suffered from RROD as well.

you'd be surprised ;)

[Horrorwood]

This is an old fix, its just the xclamp fix.

I thought it was actually re-soldering the gpu and cpu to the mobo..

[neilpatel]

wats so special about this video

[hordak]

Erm, i don't see any solder reflow.

This is a standard xclamp fix that probably wont last.

[xghost360]

something sexy about a girls hands inside a xbox 360 shes hot i like here i do my fix a little differnt i use nuts at the top of the heat sinks by removing some of the heatsink

[poisonousjuice]

This is an old fix, its just the xclamp fix.

I thought it was actually re-soldering the gpu and cpu to the mobo..

exactly, this is old as ****. I was hoping for some kind of re-soldering method as well. I've done this to about 4 xbox360s and while they all recovered, the first one i did about a year ago has crapped out again.

thanks maxconsole for wasting my time with incorrect headlines, again.

[Taft]

This is an old fix, its just the xclamp fix.

I thought it was actually re-soldering the gpu and cpu to the mobo..

Yea I was thinking the same -_-

[buddha]

This is a standard xclamp fix that probably wont last.
thats right

[canadajames]

she did the eraser fix 2 it looks like.

[ando2k5]

thats way too much thermal paste to use

she also tightened the screws wrong

if you tighten them all the way indivually your not giving equal pressure and could risk ruining the gpu or cpu

[davethingamy]

Not sure dragging a Xbox mobo over carpet is good for it.....

[Karma-sama]

It's disturbing how sloppy MaxConsole has become... I see news in the wrong categories each and every day now it seems. Is it just sloppy or is it fuel for the flamewars? Shape up.

[yourM0M1]

wheres the F-ing re-flow...this is some BS

[panyan1991]

thats way too much thermal paste to use

she also tightened the screws wrong

if you tighten them all the way indivually your not giving equal pressure and could risk ruining the gpu or cpu

thats why i have alot of respect for both you and saleem;)


so, is this the x-clamp fix?

[joeschmoe.lyt]

It doesn't make sense. How did she get the board to sit flat in the cage without drilling the holes bigger? I call b.s. on this one. Those machine head screw heads are too big to allow the board to sit flush.

[FoneFreak]

It doesn't make sense. How did she get the board to sit flat in the cage without drilling the holes bigger? I call b.s. on this one. Those machine head screw heads are too big to allow the board to sit flush. the fit no problems, (remeber the gap used by the original x clamp!!. @maxconsole should not be posting this kind of video as news a YEAR LATER then top xbox scene sites??, THIS IS NOT NEWS

[vgcrepairs]

It doesn't make sense. How did she get the board to sit flat in the cage without drilling the holes bigger? I call b.s. on this one. Those machine head screw heads are too big to allow the board to sit flush.


WRONG, they fit in there just fine, it will work again, until next week when it 3 RROD on you again and will no longer come back to life.

THIS VIDEO SUCKS!!! At what point did she put AS5 on heat sinks then remove, what a ditz

[pezjono]

thanks maxconsole for wasting my time with incorrect headlines, again.

Because we all know how precious your time must be, surfing maxconsole...

[Gamer2kX]

i did the x-clamp fix in my RRoD xbox360 and it took 1 week to give me RRoD again :(we need a REAL fix for that problem.

[crypysmoker]

Out of all her "duh im a blonde" comments throughout that sounded like she was reading Cue cards from a bad Soap opera...
Sooo.. I guess that whole static electricity ruining static sensitive components never crossed her mind as shes dragging it back and forth across a shag carpet with plugs attached

Im all for girls knowing how to do things liek this... but this girl looks like someone showed her how to do it quickly just so it looked like something she had done before a million times

[dannybII]

First off for the uneducated, thats not an eraser fix (aswell). Many 360's come with those sort of pads on the memory chips.
2nd the method is a newer (but older if you know what I mean) version meaning that the H/S does not need to be drilled. and the machine head screws press nicely against the inside of the casis meaning that doesn't need to be drilled either.
3rd this fix (with nylon washers) is perfectly valid. I've done plenty like this. The earlier ones were done over a year ago and they still work to this day. I've stress tested 360's in blistering sunlight in front of my patio doors playing gears of war for 4 hour stints in temps that would generally be enough to make a camel wilt. I've done plenty for mates (who can't be arsed waiting a month for MS to replace) and even done plenty for strangers over the internet that wanted my help (no charge except for a minimal payment to cover arctic silver and nuts bolts and return postage). I've gained nothing financially so don't need to BS as I'm not touting for business. I've NEVER had 1 single person contact me later to say it's went belly up again.
If you do one and it craps out after a while I'd suggest you never torqued your nuts right. it's all about perfect pressure.

[jakefell]

I'm just suprised she didn't break a nail.

[meangreenie]

She's impressive, *most girls/women i know would'nt have a clue.

Anyway, the trouble with this fix is that the same reason the RROD occured is still there after the fix so will more than likely occur again. The trick is to mount a small quiet 5v fan on the gpu (reverse blowing onto the gpu) to even out the heat across the heat sink, because the original design only cools one edge resulting in lifting on the furthest edge.

edit... *ALL girls/women

[hacktek]

thats right

yeah the clamp fix is also temporary, it lasted me like 4 months. After that i didn't give a **** and put the box in the oven, which worked for like an hour lol. Afterwards i just went out and purchased a ps3.

btw, yes, this method is really old and there's no reflowing involved so please fix the news title since it's misleading

[saosin]

The x-clamp fix is definitely not permanent but they also do it wrong. You DO NOT want to get 2 red lights showing overheating. You don't want to overheat the CPU because there is nothing wrong with it. The GPU is the problem. What you want to do is leave the dvd drive in the case and run the fan to cool just the CPU as pictured here:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/images/x-clamp/xclamp%20074.jpg

This way then you let the system on for about 15 minutes which is sufficient time for the GPU to get hot enough to fix itself. Then you let it cool down for about 10-15 minutes and the console will work. My console has got the red ring 3 times now. Each time I get it I just tear it apart and do this. I don't see any need to go through the process of putting new thermal paste on again. But anyways I can get my 360 working again in about 45 minutes or less now if it dies.

[jadog26]

I believe this is actually LawDawg's RROD fix that is posted on xbox-scene forms. I have used it 4 times, and if done just like the video (without the dragging on the carpet) it will work. I have had one of my boxes done for about a year. It still works fine.
I used oooops instead of the artic silver remover. and dont use that much artic silver compound on the CPU.

[.Gogeta§§J4BR.]

a guy here in Brazil fix other's 360s with an infrared solder, and it's been giving better results than x-clamp fixes.

he's done a terrific job recovering my 0020 error and it's been running for quite a while with no problems.

much less troublesome to make, plus it has much lower returns (due to not having to stress the motherboard like x-clamp does)

if anyone here is from São Paulo just add me on msn (roberto.cr@gmail.com) and I can point you to him :)

[tOPO80]

fucking retard posting this just because its a girl showing how to do the exact same thing that 100 other sites already shown long ago.

[Ubertraka]

Agreed. And a big shout-out to some pretty crap music.

[n0rthstar]

Im assuming the "re-flowing" comes from letting the console overheat (2 red lights), and then tightening the heatsink screws while the solder is still soft to make the solder contact better.

Well thats my take on 're-flowing'... i dont know if they did that on the original xclamp fixes.

[relaxxx]

Couple big problems with these fixes,

The melting temperature of lead free solder is something like 240 Deg. C or 500F. I seriously doubt the 360 is set to turn off at 240 Deg. not even close.

I'm pretty sure the purpose of the "X" clamp to to apply even pressure and support the board from behind so the board doesn't warp. I've seen serious board warp damage on PC boards like socket 478 with no center support.
once board warps, and it will, thats game over.