Should 'thegayergamer' name have been banned from Xbox Live?

[Zeus]

The owner of the Xbox Live account "thegayergamer" was shocked to find that his tag had been banned by Microsoft and was told to change the name. Microsoft say the name had offended the greater Xbox community.

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I have had a bad morning. Last night when i tried to sign into my xbox live account "thegayergamer" I was told that it had to be changed. I figured that it was just from people reporting it as an offensive name being that the greater Xbox live community isn't exactly welcome to gay people, i spend a lot of time muting people on Halo3. I assumed that once i called Microsoft they would straighten things out.

I talked to a supervisor there, Roxy, who told me that she didn't personally find the fact that my gamer tag had gay in the name offensive, but that the greater Xbox community did, so i would have to change it. I hope I'm not the only person who finds this don't ask, don't tell policy disgusting... eek


News Source: <a href="http://consumerist.com/5008908/gay-player-name-banned-by-xbox-live" target=_blank">consumerist</a>

[darkie-x]

Sieg Xbox Live! :rolleyes:

[Robotron]

Let's be honest. Use of the word "gay" should be banned since most of the 12 year old idiots on Live would only use it in a derogatory way.

Don't worry about this though. The gay community will get their lawyers on it and it will immediately be changed, MS will issue and apology and the user will get a 10 million dollar settlement.
Wish I was gay that way I would have more rights and power than I do now.

[L84skewl]

little catch-22 they got there.

If the dude is really gay there's no problem with the name
If he's not, people are offended.


USA's getting out of control. It was the Land of the Free, Now it's the Land of the Politically Correct.

When did it become against the illegal to be offended?

[shinnkun]

If only MS knew how many people use highly offensive profanities in their names using their own language. :rolleyes: So what if the guy was using the word "gay" in its normal meaning?

[So-Unreal]

people have a right to be offended or not. what does everyone want MS to do? They own live and made the rules . We are not forced to use live.

[sd5150]

Unless the names includes a "swear" word, I don't see how they can justify blocking this name. Considering that Xbox live is worldwide, different countries have different meanings for words. What if someone is England really loved smoking and they called themselves FagLover, is that less or more offensive? Maybe not to anyone in England but maybe to some guy in Utah it is... Gay can mean happy as well, but it also means homosexual, so is Xbox saying that they think being homosexual is offensive to the rest of the Xbox community? I think Xbox is being over sensitive, and unless they release a list of terms that cannot be used in a gamertag, they should not be able to ban anyone or force them to change theirs without clear rules of what is and isn't allowed.

[saleem]

Let's be honest. Use of the word "gay" should be banned since most of the 12 year old idiots on Live would only use it in a derogatory way.

Don't worry about this though. The gay community will get their lawyers on it and it will immediately be changed, MS will issue and apology and the user will get a 10 million dollar settlement.
Wish I was gay that way I would have more rights and power than I do now.

oh shut it you tart!
:p

[RichieUA]

Depends what he is gayer than.



/Nicks of friends that had to change theirs: Shaking Babies, Captn Jack Swallows, Retarded Fetus.

[RichieUA]

Unless the names includes a "swear" word, I don't see how they can justify blocking this name. Considering that Xbox live is worldwide, different countries have different meanings for words. What if someone is England really loved smoking and they called themselves FagLover, is that less or more offensive? Maybe not to anyone in England but maybe to some guy in Utah it is... Gay can mean happy as well, but it also means homosexual, so is Xbox saying that they think being homosexual is offensive to the rest of the Xbox community? I think Xbox is being over sensitive, and unless they release a list of terms that cannot be used in a gamertag, they should not be able to ban anyone or force them to change theirs without clear rules of what is and isn't allowed.

This would of been more appropriate of a response many years ago, before cross-culture from the internet. People in england know what their "fag" means in American and understand while using an American service that they probably can't use it.

[LeGioN1202]

people have a right to be offended or not. what does everyone want MS to do? They own live and made the rules . We are not forced to use live.

Well, MS allows little 12 year old kids on LIVE call people assholes, dickheads, fagets, etc... they tell people who are new to online gaming to get the **** out, go **** their moms, etc... etc...

Yet if someone is gay, it is wrong?

LIVE and MS can go **** themselves and I hope something is done about this.

Also in order to change your gamertag name, doesn't the owner of the name need to pay MS 800 MS points?

I don't pay for LIVE for this exact reason. It is unprofessional. Not to mention a waste of money. (Let me put a IMO at the end of this before the kiddies come and attack me.)

[kill_bill]

He must have upset M$ with all the videos he posted on youtube getting homophobic insults on xbox live

[Jinx13378]

Drama.


I seriously don't fucking care.

[RichieUA]

Well, MS allows little 12 year old kids on LIVE call people assholes, dickheads, fagets, etc... they tell people who are new to online gaming to get the **** out, go **** their moms, etc... etc...

Yet if someone is gay, it is wrong?

LIVE and MS can go **** themselves and I hope something is done about this.

Also in order to change your gamertag name, doesn't the owner of the name need to pay MS 800 MS points?

I don't pay for LIVE for this exact reason. It is unprofessional. Not to mention a waste of money. (Let me put a IMO at the end of this before the kiddies come and attack me.)

My strawman argument, let me show you it, my strawman argument.

[bhetrick]

Unless the names includes a "swear" word, I don't see how they can justify blocking this name.


You don't have the RIGHT to use LIVE... you have the PRIVILEGE. LIVE is not a free service that everyone has the right to use as they wish. MS makes the rules. People can accept them or close their account. Simple as that.

So MS doesn't need to justify anything. They can do what they want. LIVE belongs to them.


Now... that being said, I, too, agree that his gamertag is not offensive. But if enough people complain...

[pezjono]

Drama.


I seriously don't fucking care.

Quoted for fucking truth...

[Prime Dragon]

Gay can also mean happy so maybe he is the happier gamer. I know he did not use the word gay for happiness and that it was meant sexually. But how does anyone know what he was thinking when he made his gamertag theres no evidence proving gay means homosexual in his tag.

[LastinFirstout]

Wish I was gay that way I would have more rights and power than I do now.

this made me laugh :D.

you dont need to wish anything & you dont even need to bend over just buy xbox 360 this way you will get the 360 degree screwing by bill & his crew. :D

[setoromero]

Doesny Gay mean Happy.TheGayGamer = TheHappyGamer. Look up the definition of Gay, Just like B*tch means a Female Dog.

[Salmon-Face]

Gay can also mean happy so maybe he is the happier gamer. I know he did not use the word gay for happiness and that it was meant sexually. But how does anyone know what he was thinking when he made his gamertag theres no evidence proving gay means homosexual in his tag.

Lets be honest here, does anyone use the word 'gay' to describe happiness in this day and age?

"I feel so gay, I just got accepted!"

[tao]

Unless the names includes a "swear" word, I don't see how they can justify blocking this name. Considering that Xbox live is worldwide, different countries have different meanings for words. What if someone is England really loved smoking and they called themselves FagLover, is that less or more offensive? Maybe not to anyone in England but maybe to some guy in Utah it is... Gay can mean happy as well, but it also means homosexual, so is Xbox saying that they think being homosexual is offensive to the rest of the Xbox community? I think Xbox is being over sensitive, and unless they release a list of terms that cannot be used in a gamertag, they should not be able to ban anyone or force them to change theirs without clear rules of what is and isn't allowed.


FagLover. I like it, gunna try and use that name now! Thanks!

[setoromero]

Gay can also mean happy so maybe he is the happier gamer. I know he did not use the word gay for happiness and that it was meant sexually. But how does anyone know what he was thinking when he made his gamertag theres no evidence proving gay means homosexual in his tag.

Damn I didnt even read ur post and after I posted what I wanted to say youve already said it....Great minds think alike.....Im Gay(Happy) about this!

[poisonousjuice]

it doesn't matter what the name is, if enough XBL users flag it for being 'offensive' then it will be notified that it has to be changed.

i wouldn't be surprised if no one even monitors the name, just simply a script of # of complaints > a certain # then it's notified to be changed.

so if enough people say they're offended by a screen name of "IeatBoogers" it will be kicked off XBL.

I'm more offended this is 'news' on this website.

[yusky03]

I can't beleve they have not banned me. SaTaNiK1

:D I am not a satanist but it sounded/looks kool spelled like that so that is what i put

[Happsai]

Let's be honest. Use of the word "gay" should be banned since most of the 12 year old idiots on Live would only use it in a derogatory way.
So we should ban freedom of speech because some people will say mean things?

Also, whether this person is gay or not doesn't matter because this person is not obligated to prove it as true or false. Unless you also think BlackGamer, GameJew, and the members of GamerChicks should also be banned for receiving rude/lewd comments from 12 year olds.

[RichieUA]

So we should ban freedom of speech because some people will say mean things?

Also, whether this person is gay or not doesn't matter because this person is not obligated to prove it as true or false. Unless you also think BlackGamer, GameJew, and the members of GamerChicks should also be banned for receiving rude/lewd comments from 12 year olds.

"freedom of speech" is not an issue on a private network.

Also note that "gay" is not banned automatically, or else he would of never even had the name. He got flagged for some reason and his name could be offensive so it got changed at no cost to him.

There is nothing wrong with what happened and I agree with a poster above we should be more angry at maxconsole for calling this news.

[mashti]

a real straight male never lowers himself to use the word "gay".

[Gambit]

MS can ban whatever they want, and...? I think they did good, because tags can be funny, but stupidity is not funny. If someone chooses retarded nickname even for joke he should take psycho test...

[Happsai]

"Also note that "gay" is not banned automatically, or else he would of never even had the name. He got flagged for some reason and his name could be offensive so it got changed at no cost to him."
On that note, if the individual in question wishes to keep the name, I sincerely hope the name-ban is reversed. There is no reason why someone should have to change their name to avoid identifying themselves as black, christian, female, or even gay.
"... and I agree with a poster above we should be more angry at maxconsole for calling this news."
Now this I can agree with full heartedly.:cool:

[osnoozeo]

the homo's who complained should be ravagedly raped in there ass, oh thats right, they like that to much. fags should die off awful death AIDS to all homo's...

[SystemParasite]

Let's be honest. Use of the word "gay" should be banned since most of the 12 year old idiots on Live would only use it in a derogatory way.

Don't worry about this though. The gay community will get their lawyers on it and it will immediately be changed, MS will issue and apology and the user will get a 10 million dollar settlement.
Wish I was gay that way I would have more rights and power than I do now.

You wish you were gay? You lose for that.

[freddser]

Should 'thegayergamer' name have been banned from Xbox Live?

Nope. The worlds to damn uptight, too damn controlled and becoming a damn crappy place to live.

[panyan1991]

USA's getting out of control. It was the Land of the Free, Now it's the Land of the Politically Correct.

USA = "sue and be sued" - in every aspect of life!

[Prime Dragon]

Well I'm going to post a message now in defense of Microsoft. If you play on Xbox Live I'm pretty sure you have to agree to a disclaimer which means you willing give up your rights of freedom of speech and expression and the right to party etc etc.

Now in America though, if the server is located here technically it has to apply to the higher law no matter what which would be the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. This won't change anything though unless this case goes to the Supreme Court which it never will.

[faceless]

people who are saying gay could mean happy are being ridiculous.

someone with a tag jewbaker could just be a jewish guy who is an awesome pastry chef!

someone with the tag n****rfucker could just really like having sex with black girls or guys or both!

ms will make people change even the most bizarrely inoffensive names with enough complaints from the community.

the only bias is this guy thinking his case is special because he is gay.

[Blazeking]

the homo's who complained should be ravagedly raped in there ass, oh thats right, they like that to much. fags should die off awful death AIDS to all homo's...

Why do do think it was gay people who were offended? Unless you just wanted to add your pointless 2 cents in.

MS themselves are homophobic. ***** in American Language is female dog just like gay means happy, not homosexual. Gay is a word that was established by society to identify homosexuals.

The name can mean "TheHappierGamer". Either way if the person really is gay, there's no reason why they can't express it because of the 12 year old kids who use more profanity than adults like to insult him.

And don't give me that, MS can do whatever they want argument because if this was PSN, fanboys would be bashing Sony wholeheartedly. No excuse. A court would tell you there's no way to block that name legaly.

[Desolationstorm]

Its not like its a bad name or anything, but name really isnt that important. On the same note my friend was baned with the name Fxck in his live tag. Which I thought it was funny.

[Jinx13378]

this made me laugh :D.

you dont need to wish anything & you dont even need to bend over just buy xbox 360 this way you will get the 360 degree screwing by bill & his crew. :D

You wish you were gay? You lose for that.


Both of you are fucking idiots, who cannot comprehend most basic sarcasm.

Read Robotron's post again and again, untill you get a hint of what he's trying to get across, you clueless morons.
He even explained it in that same fucking sentence.

God, I hate you people.

If only MS knew how many people use highly offensive profanities in their names using their own language.

Heh, even I was amazed by my own countrymen's creativity in that field.

[dalezer]

OK. WHY DON'T GAY PEOPLE JUST GET IT!!!??

It’s not that we are homophobic, I don't mind gay people. WANNA BE GAY? THEN BE GAY!!!

BUT STOP ADVERTISING IT! LIKE ITs SOME GLOBAL CAMPAIGN FOR ACCEPTANCE. Be happy with tolerance & equal rights you have already gained in many nations.

Most straight people don't make their gamertags "BTICH FU***" "ASS TAPPER", or "PU*** LOVER'.

When’s the last time you've seen a STRAIGHT PRIDE PARADE, promoting good old women loving. NEVER. CUZ ITS NOT APPROPRIATE SUBJECT especially for children!:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

[BeyondInfinity]

OK. WHY DON'T GAY PEOPLE JUST GET IT!!!??

It’s not that we are homophobic, I don't mind gay people. WANNA BE GAY? THEN BE GAY!!!

BUT STOP ADVERTISING IT! LIKE ITs SOME GLOBAL CAMPAIGN FOR ACCEPTANCE. Be happy with tolerance & equal rights you have already gained in many nations.

Most straight people don't make their gamertags "BTICH FU***" "ASS TAPPER", or "PU*** LOVER'.

When’s the last time you've seen a STRAIGHT PRIDE PARADE, promoting good old women loving. NEVER. CUZ ITS NOT APPROPRIATE SUBJECT especially for children!:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Yeah I never quite understood why there's a gay pride; its whoevers decision who they want to bang. No need to parade a bunch of men who enjoy bumping uglies, if kids aren't supposed to hear about sex when they're young they definitely shouldnt be exposed to parades about homo sexuality.

[Rerder]

why dont the ban every 11 year old child that play halo then ,the say gay 20 times in one map :/

[Ed_209]

OK. WHY DON'T GAY PEOPLE JUST DON't GET IT!!!??

It’s not that we are homophobic, I don't mind gay people. WANNA BE GAY? THEN BE GAY!!!

BUT STOP ADVERTISING IT! LIKE ITs SOME GLOBAL CAMPAIGN FOR ACCEPTANCE. Be happy with tolerance & equal rights you have already gained in many nations.

Most straight people don't make their gamertags "BTICH FU***" "ASS TAPPER", or "PU*** LOVER'.

When’s the last time you've seen a STRAIGHT PRIDE PARADE, promoting good old women loving. NEVER. CUZ ITS NOT APPROPRIATE SUBJECT especially for children!:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

http://1918.com/article.php?article_id=2142&type=read

There are plenty of people out there that advertise being heterosexual just as much, but people that do that tend to be "in the closet" and trying to hide the fact that they are gay. So to sum it up, gay people like to advertise being heterosexual (if in gay denial) and homosexual. True heterosexuals don't need to advertise what their preference is because usually it's safe to just assume. "Excuse me Miss? Are you a lesbian?"
If NO ---> "Wanna go out on a date?"
If Yes ---> "Wanna go out on a date?"
...wait... now I forgot the point I was trying to make...nevermind, my head hurts...

[Salmon-Face]

why dont the ban every 11 year old child that play halo then ,the say gay 20 times in one map :/

What the hell, what sense does that make connected to this article? :confused:

[Turbojugend]

That was pretty gay of Microsoft to do.....

[Taft]

There is lots of other nickname he can use, but choose that one? Lolz

[MadonnaProject]

of course it should be banned. as long as THESTRAIGHTERGAMER, THEHETEROSEXUALGAMER, THEHAPPIERGAMER and THEBIGAMER are banned as well.

[NexusBurst]

Should 'thegayergamer' name have been banned from Xbox Live?Didn't you see yesterdays advert? he should be on psn (joke):D
Being serious i think it should be banned, not because im against anyones choices it but because of the trouble it causes.

It seems to say he is actually gay in some way and that he has to mute people in halo 3 all the time, he might not mind the abuse or public advertisement of his sexuality but i bet other people mind whats being said by immature morons who just can't deal with it. I should imagine SexyDonkey5 would have the same problems. A name like that will just provoke it, give people something to smacktalk about they'll target you when you're on top.

[MadonnaProject]

Didn't you see yesterdays advert? he should be on psn (joke):D
Being serious i think it should be banned, not because im against anyones choices it but because of the trouble it causes.

It seems to say he is actually gay in some way and that he has to mute people in halo 3 all the time, he might not mind the abuse or public advertisement of his sexuality but i bet other people mind whats being said by immature morons who just can't deal with it. I should imagine SexyDonkey5 would have the same problems. A name like that will just provoke it, give people something to smacktalk about they'll target you when you're on top.

great. so according to you, you have no problem with it. i suppose if they should also ban tags with republican, jewish, muslim, christian, black, white, asian, or other such refferences as well. afterall, why suffer the risk of allowing names other people might be prejudiced towards. in fact nintendo has it right. microsoft should just change gamertags to numbers or better yet bar codes. so no human, animal or even alien is offended.

[Jinx13378]

Certain couples of minorities get offended so easily, it makes me want to indiscriminatingly gouge their eyes out.
I might do that one day, after I get tired of ranting on the internet.

edit:

Who am I kidding, I love to fucking rant on the internet.
But I still pretty much hate most minorities.

[RAISH]

Ban hammer them !!!

[rumsey]

My strawman argument, let me show you it, my strawman argument.

Shut up fag. Go post pokemon pictures on neogaf. :p

[Trashcat]

This is getting ridiculous especially from certain individuals who just looking for something to **** on Ms about. Fact is this name will get you banned from most online games, and its good that there are name policies out there, or do you want to see names like "deathtoamerica" or "happy911"? Names that are deemed as offensive by a large part of the community are banned because people don't want to get pissed off just by looking at names list.

[Lovebird82]

the homo's who complained should be ravagedly raped in there ass, oh thats right, they like that to much. fags should die off awful death AIDS to all homo's...

Wow, some people are really stupid.

[zymologist]

Lets be honest here, does anyone use the word 'gay' to describe happiness in this day and age?

about as many who still use "faggot" to mean "bundle of sticks", or use "fcuk" to mean "penetrate". none

[NewBeginning]

Why does anyone feel the need to have something like this be their gamertag?

[NexusBurst]

great. so according to you, you have no problem with it. i suppose if they should also ban tags with bla blah bla blah bla

A reputable service will always attempt to maintain some order, if you pay for an mmorpg for example, a gm will change guild names or player names without prior notice if its deemed against the TOS or disrupts the playing environment (a suggestion not to name yourself 10inchco**monster) We play by their rules if people don't like it they're free not to play.

There should always be a limit to freedom even online for the benefit of everyone, there's only so much faith you can place in the intelligence of humanity. How would you like it if you made a service for kids and adults alike only to have people shove sexuallity in a place that it doesn't belong for that matter how would you like to be playing burnout with your kids only to see some guy rubbing his nuts against the camera? This is a defensive measure and id hope the same went for hetronuts169 too.
Race and religon doesn't come into this but people are likely to be much more mature about it but then in mmorpgs its in the ToS not to call yourself by gods religons or anything that could be considered offensive to religous sensitivities. :)

[Blades]

You don't have the RIGHT to use LIVE... you have the PRIVILEGE. LIVE is not a free service that everyone has the right to use as they wish. MS makes the rules. People can accept them or close their account. Simple as that.

So MS doesn't need to justify anything. They can do what they want. LIVE belongs to them.


Now... that being said, I, too, agree that his Gamertag is not offensive. But if enough people complain...

You hit it on the head right there. If you don't agree with MS's policy. Disconnect.

Whether it is offensive or not. There really is no reason to have a Gamer Tag name like that. Unless of course you are just wanting your 15min of fame.....oh I guess that IS what you are after. Well Congrats, you got it.




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[mashti]

Certain couples of minorities get offended so easily, it makes me want to indiscriminatingly gouge their eyes out.
I might do that one day, after I get tired of ranting on the internet.

edit:

Who am I kidding, I love to fucking rant on the internet.
But I still pretty much hate most minorities.

you are just a lonely & very angry twat,you need someone to knock the sh1t out of your coward ass for real. i f hate you,i blame your parents for not bringing you up in poland because it seems that you feel you dont belong to anywhere & this is why you always an angry internet fool.

[dalezer]

http://1918.com/article.php?article_id=2142&type=read

There are plenty of people out there that advertise being heterosexual just as much, but people that do that tend to be "in the closet" and trying to hide the fact that they are gay. So to sum it up, gay people like to advertise being heterosexual (if in gay denial) and homosexual. True heterosexuals don't need to advertise what their preference is because usually it's safe to just assume. "Excuse me Miss? Are you a lesbian?"
If NO ---> "Wanna go out on a date?"
If Yes ---> "Wanna go out on a date?"
...wait... now I forgot the point I was trying to make...nevermind, my head hurts...

lol. I'm not a homophobe cuz theres no doubt in my mind that girls are hot and guys just aren't lol. I know homosexuality isn't a choice, and its as simple as being born that way or not.

But respresenting yourself publically through your sexuality is tottallly inappropriate as it exposes inappropriate audiences (children) to such subjects. Don't really care if teens know about it, since being gay isn't a choice, so there no valid reason of being afraid of turning gay, if you are a true hetero.

This wouldn't even be proper to disscuss even in the heterosexual context, I don't go around telling people that I enjoy having sex with women.

Your sexuality is a private matter, AND THE GENERAL POPULATION DOESN'T CARE!

[Blades]

I know homosexuality isn't a choice, and its as simple as being born that way or not.



Oh brother, I love that this is what we have come to accept in this world, that what the Media and Society tells us: That you are "Born gay". :rolleyes:

Being gay is a choice. I don't buy into that you are born that way. But I guess if you listen to the Media and they say it, and it makes a person feel better about themselves, then it must be true. :rolleyes:



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[jay123_2]

well guys thanks its been fun having a good read on the replys
ive seen some good tags on xbl and i dont see owt wrong with thegayergamer wouldnt mean sh*t to my kids
as they more obscene tags on live that i seen if you read em right lol
maybe ms owt to understand lingo/slang lol
Then they may get to understand the tags in the end
best thing is the gayergamer may come back with the tag

Thebattyboyzrevenge
or
yagsisetagllib

lol

Thanks jay :D

[Jinx13378]

you are just a lonely & very angry twat,you need someone to knock the sh1t out of your coward ass for real. i f hate you,i blame your parents for not bringing you up in poland because it seems that you feel you dont belong to anywhere & this is why you always an angry internet fool.

What? Where'd you get that silly idea? I am living in Poland since I was three.
I don't hate you, I hate your fucking stupidity in every single post I see.

Age restriction is what we need here.

[Salmon-Face]

How can someone possibly be offended at 'thegayergamer' ?
People that wan't to be as gay as they can dislike gamertags that imply others are more gay than them?
Or just homophobes?

[Xenogears V]

F*ck Micro$oft!. I remamber same thing for name "LINUX".

[Hyperion]

Oh brother, I love that this is what we have come to accept in this world, that what the Media and Society tells us: That you are "Born gay". :rolleyes:

Being gay is a choice. I don't buy into that you are born that way. But I guess if you listen to the Media and they say it, and it makes a person feel better about themselves, then it must be true. :rolleyes:


The next time you have a thought... let it go!

[dalezer]

Oh brother, I love that this is what we have come to accept in this world, that what the Media and Society tells us: That you are "Born gay". :rolleyes:

Being gay is a choice. I don't buy into that you are born that way. But I guess if you listen to the Media and they say it, and it makes a person feel better about themselves, then it must be true. :rolleyes:



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lol I bet this guy thinks that being born a boy or a girl is a choice too. lol:rolleyes::D

[Hyperion]

lol I bet this guy thinks that being born a boy or a girl is a choice too. lol:rolleyes::D


:D

Thing is though, WTF does he think anyone would choose to be gay when there are pricks like him around?
Can't see anyone jumping up and saying 'You know what, f*** those women with the stockings and heels, I'm gonna get me some hairy arsed guy just so I can be ostracised by retards'.

Scary thing is, people like him are allowed to vote!

[Evolution]

Smart guy/ group of people seeks publicity for himself/website/blog and the possibility of some damages if they are lucky.

Gets it. End of story.

This isnt about homophobia or racism or indeed anything else. Its purely someone or something who has seen an oppertunity to use the attitudes prevailent in today's society for their own gain.

I dont know if the gamer in question is gay or not or even if it is a real gamer but they/he certainly knew what they/he were doing when they started this little story.

[Blades]

:D

Thing is though, WTF does he think anyone would choose to be gay when there are pricks like him around?

Oh, Now I'm a prick because I have a different point of view, and believe differently than you.

I personally don't believe that a person is Born gay, just as you believe that a person could be born gay. But according to you, I'm a prick because I have a different point of view than you do. Amazing. Freedom of expression unless it doesn't coincide with what YOU are thinking.





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[Hyperion]

Oh, Now I'm a prick because I have a different point of view, and believe differently than you.

I personally don't believe that a person is Born gay, just as you believe that a person could be born gay. But according to you, I'm a prick because I have a different point of view than you do. Amazing. Freedom of expression unless it doesn't coincide with what YOU are thinking.

The difference is, this has been studied to death and found to be something hardwired from birth, only blinkered idiots don't listen to research!

I like how you ignored the second section. You say it's a choice, why would anyone make that choice, especially considering the amount of turmoil it causes in the lives of the people who decide to let it be known that they're gay?

Also, if it's a choice then wouldn't that make them attracted to women before they make that choice?
Why would someone hetero, choose to look at a woman and say 'You know what, that's sexy as hell, but I want some hairy manlovin'?

Think before you speak next time and consider the fact that one day, God forbid, you have a gay son who hears you talking **** about gay people all his life, so never tells you. Then one day you find him swinging on the edge of a rope because he couldn't bear the thought that his Dad didn't love him because he was gay.

[Salmon-Face]

The difference is, this has been studied to death and found to be something hardwired from birth, only blinkered idiots don't listen to research!

I like how you ignored the second section. You say it's a choice, why would anyone make that choice, especially considering the amount of turmoil it causes in the lives of the people who decide to let it be known that they're gay?

Also, if it's a choice then wouldn't that make them attracted to women before they make that choice?
Why would someone hetero, choose to look at a woman and say 'You know what, that's sexy as hell, but I want some hairy manlovin'?

Think before you speak next time and consider the fact that one day, God forbid, you have a gay son who hears you talking **** about gay people all his life, so never tells you. Then one day you find him swinging on the edge of a rope because he couldn't bear the thought that his Dad didn't love him because he was gay.

Bieng gay is an environmental change depending on the way we are brought up and experiences. It usually hits before puberty so most gays can tell you that they've never been attracted to women.

[Hyperion]

Bieng gay is an environmental change depending on the way we are brought up and experiences. It usually hits before puberty so most gays can tell you that they've never been attracted to women.

Eh?

Hits before puberty? You don't read or speak to anybody who's gay either.
It's always been there for them since their earliest memories.
Like I've always known I've liked girls since I was 3.
Boys/men just don't do anything for me and that's not something for me to be proud or disgusted at, it's just a statement of fact.

Enviornmental factors are nothing to do with it. Gay people come from all walks of life, different types of parents from the ultra macho to the camp as a row of tents.
You can't make anyone gay in their formative years or at any other time.
If you doubt that, ask yourself this question... could you be 'turned'?

[Evolution]

Eh?

Hits before puberty? You don't read or speak to anybody who's gay either.
It's always been there for them since their earliest memories.
Like I've always known I've liked girls since I was 3.
Boys/men just don't do anything for me and that's not something for me to be proud or disgusted at, it's just a statement of fact.

Enviornmental factors are nothing to do with it. Gay people come from all walks of life, different types of parents from the ultra macho to the camp as a row of tents.
You can't make anyone gay in their formative years or at any other time.
If you doubt that, ask yourself this question... could you be 'turned'?

And this has what to do with videogame consoles?

The mistake that MS made here was allowing the tag in the first place. If they had banned it before it was used then it wouldnt have been a problem at all.

This has nothing I repeat NOTHING to do with homosexual acceptance and everything to do with lawsuits and money.

[Hyperion]

And this has what to do with videogame consoles?

The mistake that MS made here was allowing the tag in the first place. If they had banned it before it was used then it wouldnt have been a problem at all.

This has nothing I repeat NOTHING to do with homosexual acceptance and everything to do with lawsuits and money.

And you know this, how?

[Evolution]

And you know this, how?

Wait a few weeks and you will see.

We will get the tried and trusted 'At first I was shocked, Then I told all my friends and they were horrified, now I am very angry and I want MS to pay.'

A few more people will come forward with stuff like 'I wasnt allowed AnalFister and I wasnt allowed PaedophileGamerZero and I wasnt allowed KKKRulz and I wasnt allowed DeathtoAllInfadels' etc etc

Then some Lawyers will jump on the bandwagon and bingo we will have (another) class action suit

This is the way the world works now or to quote Cortana. This is the way the world ends....

[Blades]

The difference is, this has been studied to death and found to be something hardwired from birth, only blinkered idiots don't listen to research!

I like how you ignored the second section. You say it's a choice, why would anyone make that choice, especially considering the amount of turmoil it causes in the lives of the people who decide to let it be known that they're gay?

Also, if it's a choice then wouldn't that make them attracted to women before they make that choice?
Why would someone hetero, choose to look at a woman and say 'You know what, that's sexy as hell, but I want some hairy manlovin'?

Think before you speak next time and consider the fact that one day, God forbid, you have a gay son who hears you talking **** about gay people all his life, so never tells you. Then one day you find him swinging on the edge of a rope because he couldn't bear the thought that his Dad didn't love him because he was gay.


Wow, I didn't know you were such an expert at the subject. Why bother have a discussion with you. You apparently know how and what people should think about the topic. Next time I have an opinion, I'll just ask you since you seem to think all people should think the same way as you do.

BTW, I haven't said ANYTHING about hating gays, those are your words. I have a gay cousin and a gay friend. We have talked about this subject. And even they don't fully buy into the "Born gay" topic. So now are YOU going to tell them how they should feel and spout a bunch of krap at them.

Remember other people can have opinions and they might not exactly jive with you. That is called Freedom of Expression and belief. I'm glad that you have your beliefs in the topic, however just because I don't share your views, you have labeled me instantly as the "prick" or the "blinkered idiot", as you put it. Sounds like you've got a lot of hate built up in you. Find peace man. There is no reason to hate others that believe or are different than you.



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