View Full Version : problem with wii clip and Argon install
retroguy
04-11-2008, 10:24 AM
Today I got my two Argon-wii clips for my two Aron chips (one A3P125 and one A3P250). I soldered both Argon chips to the wii-clips and then I flashed the latest firmware (1.8-125.dat and 1.8-250.dat) with the injector. Everything went right, and when I had the argon chips connected to the injector, blue lights were on everywhere. I guess that is OK. Then I mounted one wii-clip on the GC2-D2C (I felt a click), assembled the Wii console and tried an original game, which worked. Then I put a back-up in, and I got the message that the disc could not be read. So I disassembled the Wii again, connected the still installed Argon chip to the injector, and there was no blue light on the Argon chip burning!!! Then I released the Wii-clip from the D2C chip, but still no blue light on the Argon chip.
Then I got my other Argon chip, which I already soldered to the Wii-clip, I checked if the blue light on the chip was on (it was), and I mounted my second wii-clip on the D2C chip. But then the blue light went off!!!!!!!! And when i released the wii-clip from the D2C chip, the blue light came back on, and back off when I put the wii-clip on the D2C chip. (I do not have the Wii connected to the power).
What is going on? It seems that my first Argon is dead (no blue light on, whether the wii-clip is or is not connected to the D2C), and the second one doesn't seem to be able to make it's mind up (the blue light on the chip is on when the wii-clip is not mounted on the D2C, but the light is off when I have the wii-clip mounted).
andisblue
04-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Is there even a way to tell if all of your contacts are good when you're using the wii-clip?
AcCeSsDeNiEd
04-11-2008, 12:20 PM
How many failures do we need before everyone gets the message that these clippy stuffs don't work more than half the time? Even if they do now, they might not in future. The failure rate is simply way too high.
Ask any experience modder here and they will tell you so.
They so tired of repeating the same message over the years, that they don't even bother answering anymore!
somegamer
04-11-2008, 01:10 PM
They don't understand that the clip is not as straightforward as it seems. You want a real solid solution you have to solder the chip on.
elmostro
04-14-2008, 12:28 AM
did you get it working? did you try different media?
Wii Modder
04-14-2008, 12:44 AM
I will say it again, the Wii-Clip is a failure to the modding scene. Period. It costs you x amount of dollars, and it most of the time has bad contact. It is simply a bad idea. To get it done right, hire a modder, and get it done properly, once, and only.
Best Regards,
Wii Modder
p.s. I am sure your first argon chip most likely still works, so don't go trashing it.
didineedthis
04-14-2008, 06:33 AM
dump the clip and get it soldered in,
if you take your time you can do this yourself ,if you dont want to solder to the chips legs ,then solder to the vias on the reverse of the board ,it is really easy to do, read post 5 http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=98600
it is really easy to install , "just take your time" and if you get stuck, just ask.
didineedthis
Wii Modder
04-14-2008, 09:18 AM
did is right, if you need help, just ask.. you are in the right spot.
retroguy
04-14-2008, 10:22 AM
;) As You all told me, and as I discovered myself a few days ago, the Wii-clip was too blame for the malfunction. And although I have never soldered in my life before, last Saturday I felt very confidence of myself and I thought soldering the Argon chip by me was doable. So I bought a 12W soldering iron and all the needed materials and I read some websites which contained soldering hints ant tuts.
Then I started to practice on a 20 year old CD-Walkman which was collecting dust. I thought I was doing pretty good, so very soon after that I started the 17 wire installation of the Aragon chip. The first few pins went pretty good, although I was a little nervous, but after that I got the hang of it. After some time (I won't say how long it took me so you won't be able to laught at me) I finished it and it looked OK. Because I have no clue how to use a multimeter to check the connections, I just assembled the Wii, hooked it on to a TV set and started testing with some back-ups of Wii and NGC games (and for several regions). Everything worked as it should do.
So, don't use the Wii-clip, it's no good. Instead solder the chip, and don't be afraid to try it, even without soldering experience.
didineedthis
04-14-2008, 11:06 AM
;) As You all told me, and as I discovered myself a few days ago, the Wii-clip was too blame for the malfunction. And although I have never soldered in my life before, last Saturday I felt very confidence of myself and I thought soldering the Argon chip by me was doable. So I bought a 12W soldering iron and all the needed materials and I read some websites which contained soldering hints ant tuts.
Then I started to practice on a 20 year old CD-Walkman which was collecting dust. I thought I was doing pretty good, so very soon after that I started the 17 wire installation of the Aragon chip. The first few pins went pretty good, although I was a little nervous, but after that I got the hang of it. After some time (I won't say how long it took me so you won't be able to laught at me) I finished it and it looked OK. Because I have no clue how to use a multimeter to check the connections, I just assembled the Wii, hooked it on to a TV set and started testing with some back-ups of Wii and NGC games (and for several regions). Everything worked as it should do.
So, don't use the Wii-clip, it's no good. Instead solder the chip, and don't be afraid to try it, even without soldering experience.
glad you got it sorted mate ,
it doesn't matter if it took you 2 days to install your aragon, as long as you did it thats all that matters.
make sure you update it to the latest firmware, you can get everything you get from here http://www.infectus.biz/downloads.php
well done.
didineedthis
AcCeSsDeNiEd
04-14-2008, 09:12 PM
Good one buddy!
Glad you took the plunge and junked the clip.
With the via points, it can be possible to solder it even without any experience.
Though they are a little small so you need good sight.
So the message to everyone who intends to get the clip, simply don't do it.
The failure rate is simply too high. Almost all the praises you see about the clip are done by moles and clones. And by retailers/shops who might have bought one too many and later found out it was trash just like the others before.
If it was meant to be permanently connected, then it was meant to be soldered! Period.
The only "contact-point" devices are switches!
And your chip ain't a switch.
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