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Khar00f
10-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Hi guys, i'm kind of stuck in between. i'm trying to pick which card i want to get the M3 SD/CF or the Supercard SD/CF. i tried checking out the site of Supercard but i have a hard time understanding exactly what they're saying. So i'm looking here for answeres, tried reading some previous threads to get an idea, but not many on Supercard.

so i ask you, in your opinions which is best and why? since i'll be getting the SD/CF models size is not a problem, i'm looking to play all my gba games including all save types (RTC and forgot what else there is that used to cause problems for GBA) and obviously NDS also. so any input would be greatly apreciated, thx in advance.

Hectic
10-03-2005, 10:39 PM
M3 by far. 100% gba compatibility, no patching required to play or save. ds support on m3 is also superior. there really is no reason for anyone to buy a supercard anymore. unless of course they want to sacrifice compatibilty and quality to save a measly $20 or so.

Z80
10-04-2005, 12:11 AM
I'd say you pay more than another 20$ Hectic. But it's well worth the money if you want good GBA support. Personally I can only say to get the SuperCard if you need to go cheap. The M3 it would seem is worth the price difference. So don't buy a SuperCard for more than 35$USD really. It's a decent product but it's drawbacks are likely to anger you quickly.

cory149
10-04-2005, 10:28 AM
1st, I dont have a m3 but I do have a supercard...

SuperCard's potential is as good as the M3's (all undelivered promises of perfection aside - so far I am hearing M3/G6 do not do all gba well, but thats likely to be fixed at some future point along with the few problems on the NDS side as well) - what both really come down to is the quality and ability of the programmers who know their device, since neither has a fully finished/finalized software patcher yet.

Even at the higher price for a different set of problems, if I had to pick at this point I would have to say go with the M3 - I have faith that my SuperCard SD will at some point get the updates needed to fix the GBA problem roms and finalize full patching for the DS stuff, so SC is not a bad investment (esp. if Romman adapts the firmware to allow things like Moonshell MP3/hi quality video player to access the CF/SD wrather than relying on the old revision hacked GBA MP bin to do that function...) but I think with either "cart" you will find anger and frustration until these things are fixed/finished/finalized. On the M3 side they seem to be changing up the save states/.sav files every revision, making your old saves incompatible... while on the SC side, DS .sav isnt even implemented yet (but will hopefully be released soon)

At some point in the near future (in about 2 weeks or so) there will be also the MK2/3, and depending on the quality of that product and its end user support (as far as I can see NeoFlash support aside from making a product is near nil/0) it could use clean roms from SD/MMC without any patching, and work like a DS addon for existing GBA carts (such as the quality/inexpensive EZ III -thus making the gba slot for gba things and the ds slot for ds things wrather than relying on address tables/conversion/patching etc.)

Hectic
10-04-2005, 11:36 AM
1st, I dont have a m3 but I do have a supercard...

SuperCard's potential is as good as the M3's (all undelivered promises of perfection aside - so far I am hearing M3/G6 do not do all gba well, but thats likely to be fixed at some future point along with the few problems on the NDS side as well) - what both really come down to is the quality and ability of the programmers who know their device, since neither has a fully finished/finalized software patcher yet.

Even at the higher price for a different set of problems, if I had to pick at this point I would have to say go with the M3 - I have faith that my SuperCard SD will at some point get the updates needed to fix the GBA problem roms and finalize full patching for the DS stuff, so SC is not a bad investment (esp. if Romman adapts the firmware to allow things like Moonshell MP3/hi quality video player to access the CF/SD wrather than relying on the old revision hacked GBA MP bin to do that function...) but I think with either "cart" you will find anger and frustration until these things are fixed/finished/finalized. On the M3 side they seem to be changing up the save states/.sav files every revision, making your old saves incompatible... while on the SC side, DS .sav isnt even implemented yet (but will hopefully be released soon)

At some point in the near future (in about 2 weeks or so) there will be also the MK2/3, and depending on the quality of that product and its end user support (as far as I can see NeoFlash support aside from making a product is near nil/0) it could use clean roms from SD/MMC without any patching, and work like a DS addon for existing GBA carts (such as the quality/inexpensive EZ III -thus making the gba slot for gba things and the ds slot for ds things wrather than relying on address tables/conversion/patching etc.)

supercard does not have a battery backup, rtc, does not support virgin gba backups and all save types, and uses cheap ram. every gba rom i'm booted runs perfectly fine on the m3 and everyone else seems to say the same thing, i don't know where you got your info from. ds mode has some issues but seem to be all software related. they do need to improve a little on compatibility, fix fast boot bugs, and rework the wierd save backup system. you only get to backup 10 gba and 10 ds saves to the cf the way it is now. not good.

Z80
10-04-2005, 02:40 PM
SuperCard's GBA issues will never be resolved in software. Only hardware changes could fix the issue with SuperCard's RAM not being able to handle the fastest GBA waitstate. The slowdown is caused by the patcher removing all changes to the waitstate register, leaving it at the default 4/2 setting, which is too slow for a large number of games. Some of them don't suffer at all, some slightly, some are plain horrid. Now for DS, SuperCard should improve. But I'm still gonna get a M3.

Khar00f
10-05-2005, 12:04 AM
I should have mentioned i have the EZ-Flash III 1Gbit, and so far it does an job at GBA, i really don't care about shaving a few bucks, i just want the superior product, i'm more interested in the NDS compatibility and issues related to NDS, i can always deal w/ my EZ card for gba.

Hectic
10-05-2005, 11:12 AM
i would definitely buy an mk2 or 3 then.

Khar00f
10-05-2005, 09:46 PM
the mk2/3 is the same as the M2/3?

and if not, why the MKX over the MX?