Sony it talks with MS Xbox 360 Blu-ray drive

[Zeus]

Stan Glasgow, Sony Electronics US president, has said that Microsoft and Sony are now talking about offering a Blu-ray drive for the Xbox 360. The drive may be incorporated into the Elite Xbox or could be an add-on drive.


A Blu-ray drive in a 360 would make Microsoft more competitive with the PS3, but it would also mean extra revenues for Sony’s electronics division. It would also add further cost to the 360, meaning a premium edition of the console could be necessary.

A Blu-ray drive could be incorporated in its top-of-the-range Elite Xbox, or Microsoft could again offer a drive as a plug-in peripheral.

Mr Glasgow, speaking at a media dinner, added that discussions were also taking place with Apple, which has not offered Blu-ray drives on any of its computers so far and has focused on digital media via downloads and streaming through devices such as its Apple TV.


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[BeyondInfinity]

I can see the irony in the BR drive winning the console war for Xbox, like multiple games on one disk.

[RottenFox]

i dont think an internal blu-ray drive could withstand the speed that is needed for a 360 game disc to play.
and the possibility of another add-on..pff..nope,ive got a ps3,thank you very much.

[Malc`]

I thought blu-ray wasnt fast enough to run games off or something?

[daps83777]

I can see the irony in the BR drive winning the console war for Xbox, like multiple games on one disk.

well its funny. though implementing it in the 360 seems unlikely unless its only for movie playback. which might as well make it a standalone at that point. but from what i understand microsoft gets royalties from something on blu-ray as well, so i'm not sure they actually cared if blu-ray won over hd-dvd in the long run, maybe had a preference, but didn't matter which won.

I thought blu-ray wasnt fast enough to run games off or something?

i'm not positive but i believe the constant rate of blu-ray is a little faster than the dvd rom in the 360, but that the dvd drive can go faster or slower depending on the situation, just like a pc drive, where i believe that a bd rom drive is more of a constant speed. so the dvd drive can be faster, but its not constant. at least thats my understanding of the drive, i could be wrong though.

[pezjono]

I thought blu-ray wasnt fast enough to run games off or something?

It's all about seek time.

If, for instance, you had an 8GB file that you burn onto both blu-ray and a DL DVD. Blu-ray would be able to read that data faster.

However, if you had many smaller file (such as in every newer gen video game), and you had to read the data from all over the disc randomly, DVD would be much faster than blu-ray.

[danight]

Ive got a better idea... just cut the price of the ps3 to 299 and the xbox 360 to 199 and you could buy both and get the best of both worlds for the price of the 80 gig ps3 now!

The hd-dvd addon only made up like 3% of xbox 360 owners. Why would blu-ray expect to do better. people would be smarter buying a stand alone player.
Or let china make blu-ray players and then we should get 1 at a decent price :)

Microsoft would be dumb to add to the cost when the goal is to get cost down and lower the prices.

[hughhowey]

The Blu-Ray would be for movies only. MS isn't going to release Blu-Ray games this generation, their install base is too big, and not every system has a HD, which helps the Blu-Ray seek rate.

What they don't want is for their system to look like a toy, and Sony's system to get the Home Theater market. MS has been explicit about wanting to become the centerpiece of your home entertainment center, and they can't do that if BD takes off this year.

[daps83777]

Ive got a better idea... just cut the price of the ps3 to 299 and the xbox 360 to 199 and you could buy both and get the best of both worlds for the price of the 80 gig ps3 now!

The hd-dvd addon only made up like 3% of xbox 360 owners. Why would blu-ray expect to do better. people would be smarter buying a stand alone player.
Or let china make blu-ray players and then we should get 1 at a decent price :)

Microsoft would be dumb to add to the cost when the goal is to get cost down and lower the prices.

well we won't see cheap blu-ray players soon though. in an article a few days ago they said they aren't allowing lower end companies to make blu-ray players for the time being and we won't see anything cheaper than $299 this year. they said we "might" see $199 next year.

[danight]

blu-ray still only makes up less than 10% of the market. hd-dvd and blu-ray combined made up like 10%. Blu-ray hasn't proven its not gonna be just another media fad like laser disk. But Its total stupid to force people to buy a dvd player if thats not what they want. Sony whored the playstation name to get blu-ray out there and now they wanna whore the xbox name. Whats next a wii addon :mad:

[danight]

well we won't see cheap blu-ray players soon though. in an article a few days ago they said they aren't allowing lower end companies to make blu-ray players for the time being and we won't see anything cheaper than $299 this year. they said we "might" see $199 next year.

my point exactly. 300 for a ps3 and 200 for a xbox 360 = same price as 80 gig ps3 now.
why buy a 360 then buy a addon for 200 when you could own both systems for around the same price. Sony doesn't want china making blu-ray drives because ps3 wouldn't be the cheapest blu-ray player and they would loose ps3 sales because of that.

[soutthpaw]

Funnny how microsoft spent so much time slamming the blu ray format and bragging about the future is digital downloaded movies etc. yet half their own x boxes would not even support this format as no Hard Disk in some X360 versions. now if they add a bluray drive they will be paying royalities to Sony for every drive and also every bluray disk sold

[daps83777]

Funnny how microsoft spent so much time slamming the blu ray format and bragging about the future is digital downloaded movies etc. yet half their own x boxes would not even support this format as no Hard Disk in some X360 versions. now if they add a bluray drive they will be paying royalities to Sony for every drive and also every bluray disk sold

from what i have heard microsoft gets some sort of royalties from blu-ray for something they had a hand in. so for them be it hd-dvd or blu-ray they received royalties is my understanding.

[Yaku]

*zipper opening*
Sony : get on your knees MS.... :cool:

[cardboardbox]

from what i have heard microsoft gets some sort of royalties from blu-ray for something they had a hand in. so for them be it hd-dvd or blu-ray they received royalties is my understanding.you understand wrong as usual.

[Ristar]

who need blu-gay. it's so last-gen.

[daps83777]

any movie that uses the VC-1 codec, including movies on blu-ray, microsoft receives a royalty from.

[cardboardbox]

any movie that uses the VC-1 codec, including movies on blu-ray, microsoft receives a royalty from.MS is one of 15 companies with patents on VC-1 so they get much less than you think and AVC is used much more than VC-1 on Bluray movies.

[Claxiux]

any movie that uses the VC-1 codec, including movies on blu-ray, microsoft receives a royalty from.


Yeah, but that's only if they use the VC-1. They can as well not use it at all

[daps83777]

Yeah, but that's only if they use the VC-1. They can as well not use it at all

sure they have a choice, some of them use mpeg2 or mpeg4, but VC-1 has been used on blu-ray already. so any time a movie uses it microsoft gets royalty money from it. and i would expect that over time there will be a good number of movies that use it. out of the codecs there are really only two that should be used for high def, one of them being VC-1.

[cardboardbox]

sure they have a choice, some of them use mpeg2 or mpeg4, but VC-1 has been used on blu-ray already. so any time a movie uses it microsoft gets royalty money from it. and i would expect that over time there will be a good number of movies that use it. out of the codecs there are really only two that should be used for high def, one of them being VC-1.you never learn do you?

[daps83777]

you never learn do you?

learn? what you think they are going to use mpeg2? i mean they do on some blu-ray movies or have, all of which got bashed in head to head with the same movie on hd-dvd. so movie companies have really two choices to pick from that are built into the standard. you think none of them will use VC-1? i know you know everything, i forgot.

[MadonnaProject]

im not even going to start hoping they DONT do this and put a blu ray drive in an elite. if they do, i will feel alienated. very alienated. however if i start hoping they dont, i know they definately will.

[Sаtel]

I can see the irony in the BR drive winning the console war for Xbox, like multiple games on one disk.

i can tell you now for free 360 games will never ever in a million years will be on bluray.

it would be a total fail because everyone would have to buy a bluray attachment.

[jkadaks]

waste of time - digital downloads are the way to go; microsoft should instead release bigger hdd.

[cardboardbox]

learn? what you think they are going to use mpeg2? i mean they do on some blu-ray movies or have, all of which got bashed in head to head with the same movie on hd-dvd. so movie companies have really two choices to pick from that are built into the standard. you think none of them will use VC-1? i know you know everything, i forgot.no matter how many times you're wrong, you continue to spew crap you know absolutely nothing about. Amazing...

[hughhowey]

waste of time - digital downloads are the way to go; microsoft should instead release bigger hdd.

The mating call of an HD-DVD owner...

[jkadaks]

The mating call of an HD-DVD owner...

just so you know i dont own neither nextgen HD players

[Mikeyy]

blu-ray still only makes up less than 10% of the market. hd-dvd and blu-ray combined made up like 10%. Blu-ray hasn't proven its not gonna be just another media fad like laser disk. But Its total stupid to force people to buy a dvd player if thats not what they want. Sony whored the playstation name to get blu-ray out there and now they wanna whore the xbox name. Whats next a wii addon :mad:

Laserdisc? Did laserdisc have the studio support blu-ray has? I didnt think so.

You're the little fool that thinks the people control which format takes over. The same people that own and feed DVD, love Blu-ray. you my friend, won't have a choice, DVD is going bye bye soon enough. It is inevitable.

[daps83777]

no matter how many times you're wrong, you continue to spew crap you know absolutely nothing about. Amazing...

really, enlighten me then. you know instead of making idiotic comments, about how i am wrong and know nothing, as you usually do. you never show how you are right, just that people are wrong.

[Xenogears V]

Poor 360 fanboy.