Microsoft tells us why the Xbox 360 better than the PS3

[Zeus]

Microsoft's global marketing director, Albert Penello, has issued a fiery response to an article that claimed gamers were better off picking up PS3 versions of high-profile multi-platform games. Penello has said he disagrees with the article saying that "the cold, hard truth is that Xbox 360 has the best games - and industry reviewers and consumers agree." He also said that "the majority of games are still lead developed for Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE simply makes games better."


We have to disagree with your conclusion that the trend of Xbox 360 versions of games being best is changing, especially when you look at the entire catalog of multiplatform titles available. We also feel there were some key features of Xbox 360 games that deserved a little more play in your reviews. For multiplatform console owners, Achievements and Gamerscore have to be listed as an influencing factor to purchase the Xbox 360 version; their success and popularity is undeniable. The fact that other consoles have not implemented anything like this across every game should not be a reason to leave these features out of consideration. Plus, with Xbox 360 the capability for controller rumble comes standard, not as a future option and you get all the benefits of Xbox LIVE and its community of more than 10 million members.

"The cold, hard truth" is that Xbox 360 has the best games - and industry reviewers and consumers agree. Xbox 360 has more games with an aggregate review score of 90 or higher than the competition combined and multiplatform titles regularly sell better on Xbox 360. The majority of games are still lead developed for Xbox 360 and Xbox LIVE simply makes games better. The competition between platforms is great for gamers and in 2008 we are going to continue to work with developers to push the boundaries of our platform and the LIVE service to make sure the best game experiences continue to be on Xbox 360.


News Source: <a href="http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/features/164728.shtml" target=_blank">gamepro.com</a>

[KillFelix]

The words cold and xbox should never exist in the same sentence, ever!

[yusky03]

360 has best games right now but will alway have RRoD/overpriced accessorys. PS3 has best hardware and software is getting better every day. Sound like M$ is getting a little steamed over PS3s growing success.

[dalezer]

EXACTLY!!! well said.


Not to mention the the SUPERIOR dynamic lighting.:cool:

[cory149]

The words cold and xbox should never exist in the same sentence, ever!
ROFLMAO
"The hot, moldering truth" is
Loving my 360 sans Live Gold (no thanks, I don't need another subscription service I won't use) - it falls in line with much of the other expensive hardware I have owned in the past, just like the car I once had that I was never sure was going to get me where I was going (especially in the summer) due to a poorly designed cooling system.

[cmschleich]

I've had more fun on my 360, but now that I own and have used a PS3 it's not as bad as the hype made me believe. I'm objective as it gets. I'm not pulling for either, other than I want bad ass games for both as often as possible. And the graphics arguements are just stupid, on my 52" HDTV these are equivalently smoking at this point.


I've only had the PS3 a month but I've noticed:
- my 360 runs at 4 to 5 times the volume of the PS3. My housemates knock on the door to tell me to turn it down before my 5.1 audio system can drown out the 360's noise.
-I like it's OS layout a lot better, it's nont as dumbed down and provides more controls
-Came HDMI capable, I'd have to buy a new 360 premium to get it
-Game developer's actually put games on Blu-ray, and thus are using the extra capacity where they can. This could be a big hand up in the future.
-just sold the HDDVD player on craigslist while I could, doesn't look like there are plans to use HD disks for games.
-multiplayer networking is free
-backwards compatibility works out of the box for the PS3. 360 requires update discs for many games like two of the major Xbox titles I still own.
-integrated Power supply, makes my entertainment center a touch easier/neater


Right now I still have to put the 360 on top because of the games, but in another year or two it will be a total toss up for which is better, if not outright PS3. Their exclusive list for '08 looks more interesting to me (which is why I bought it).

And to some of the fanboys, I finally played Uncharted Drake's fortune and I almost ejected it and threw it out my window because of how severely it's been overrated. When you expect a 10 and you get a 5 (at best), it sucks twice as bad. It made me the HD freak stop and say, "$hit, wii fan was right, graphics don't make a game"

[danight]

lol... all these replies and not anything to do with the thread. Cant have a thread with out some ps3 fanboy saying rrod in it :rolleyes:

But facts are facts
1) the 360 does have the highest rated games
2) the xbox 360 does have the most games
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its easy to work with and easy to port to ps3 or pc. The ps3 is a pain in devs butt. Blu-ray loads slow so they add install times and thats something console games should never have.
4) multi platform games usually do sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360 sell more than the best game on the ps3.
6) ps3 has no games that can match sells of the xbox 360 heavy hitters.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3

Whats funny is how ps3 owners are happy to get a game that can atleast run as good as its 360 counter part. I mean lets not mention delays or frame rate issues or bugs in some ps3 games. But let 3 games run as good as its xbox 360 counter part and ps3 owners think the ps3 has done something special. Lets not forget the ps3 was suppose to be super powerful. I find it funny that its power is struggling to get a handful of games to run as good as the xbox 360 does (power of the cell, wait 30 mins to install before using).

Dont worry in "2 more years" ps3 owners will get good games. To bad this gen will be about over before that happens :rolleyes: and Nintendo will have won. Nothing sony can do, no one sony can payoff will change it. PS3 owners can be proud that blu-ray beet hd-dvd, but lost as a super game console.

[NexusBurst]

-backwards compatibility works out of the box for the PS3. 360 requires update discs for many games like two of the major Xbox titles I still own.

backwards compatibility works if you get a model that supports it, ps3 has multiple levels of BC software and hardware. Many ps2 games have glitches others don't work and show no signs of being added. bc of a specific title can depend on the pressing and serial number as well as if the machine still has the emotion engine.

I prefer my 360 personally at the end of the day past the graphic quality it's not the hardware i look at.. it's the games for the current generation, the quality of the games and the amount of games i want to play on that system.
My anticipated releases this year: (PS3)MGS4-SoulCalibur IV (360)GTA4-Dark sector-Gow2.

[harbucks2]

Turning on the PS3, whisper quiet, game runs.

Turning on the 360, engine starts, few seconds....
thinking: is this the day when I meet Hal?

[SpoonerPSP]

LOL!!!:D At least they could've made a better list:p

[wraithalchemist]

whatever, we all sit back and talk stuff like this all the time but no one really knows whatt he hell is going on but my thoughts are that the tables are about to turn because the new update for ps3 is going to have in game xmb and you can chat to people like the xbox during games that you arent playing with them. plus the addition of HOME!!! i'll bet at least 10,000 chics buy it just for that. and yes it is powerful. but we only know about blu ray being slow what happens if we put the same format in the ps3 as the 360 gets. i.e not a blu ray disc. i never understood that.

[AceMilo]

lol... all these replies and not anything to do with the thread. Cant have a thread with out some ps3 fanboy saying rrod in it :rolleyes:

But facts are facts
1) the 360 does have the highest rated games
2) the xbox 360 does have the most games
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its easy to work with and easy to port to ps3 or pc. The ps3 is a pain in devs butt. Blu-ray loads slow so they add install times and thats something console games should never have.
4) multi platform games usually do sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360 sell more than the best game on the ps3.
6) ps3 has no games that can match sells of the xbox 360 heavy hitters.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3

Whats funny is how ps3 owners are happy to get a game that can atleast run as good as its 360 counter part. I mean lets not mention delays or frame rate issues or bugs in some ps3 games. But let 3 games run as good as its xbox 360 counter part and ps3 owners think the ps3 has done something special. Lets not forget the ps3 was suppose to be super powerful. I find it funny that its power is struggling to get a handful of games to run as good as the xbox 360 does (power of the cell, wait 30 mins to install before using).

Dont worry in "2 more years" ps3 owners will get good games. To bad this gen will be about over before that happens :rolleyes: and Nintendo will have won. Nothing sony can do, no one sony can payoff will change it. PS3 owners can be proud that blu-ray beet hd-dvd, but lost as a super game console.

QFT, very well written.

[taiki]

Unless any of us are developers and/or have access to PS3/360 dev kits, you CAN NOT SAY 360 is easier to develop for.

That being said, the 360 lacks a harddrive(from a developer POV), the hardware is locked down to only hardware MS wants you to have(no controller adapters! Your only HDD upgrade options are 20 or 120gig drives), and the LIVE service sucks for something you have to pay for. Downtime is simply unacceptable for service I'm forking cash over for. Especially from an established online giant like Microsoft.

Oh, and ads everywhere in the dashboard, even if you're paying for XBL Gold.

[KillFelix]

lol... all these replies and not anything to do with the thread. Cant have a thread with out some ps3 fanboy saying rrod in it :rolleyes:

But facts are facts
1) the 360 does have the highest rated games
2) the xbox 360 does have the most games
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its easy to work with and easy to port to ps3 or pc. The ps3 is a pain in devs butt. Blu-ray loads slow so they add install times and thats something console games should never have.
4) multi platform games usually do sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360 sell more than the best game on the ps3.
6) ps3 has no games that can match sells of the xbox 360 heavy hitters.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3


1) the 360 does have the highest failure rate
2) quality not quantity
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its system is basic. The ps3 is a whole new system, a whole lot more powerful, therefore is more complicated. Remember 52x CD drive was 3 times slower than a 16x DVD drive? Same thing applies to Blu-Ray and DVD, therefore BR spins a lot slower and is A LOT QUIETER than the 360's DVD, with pretty much equal read speeds on average. If the 360 had a dedicated HDD (which it doesn't) then it WOULD install games to improve load times too
4) multi platform games SOMETIMES sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360. lol, see 2)
6) Sales Sales Sales... welcome to 2008.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the 360.

COD4, Halo3, Bioshock, Gears of War, ummmm

8) PlayTV for Europe. An awesome feature.
9) 360 lacks an Internet Browser, yet you still pay an online subscription, and has limited HD movie playback (at extra cost)
10) PS3 has built in Card Readers
11) 360 has a huge power-brick
12) PS3 can upgrade the HDD on the cheap, the sky's the limits
13) 360 users have to pay extra for Wi-Fi, online play, wireless controller charging, memory unit and/or hard drive for core users, and Microsoft even charge you to change your online name lol!
14) "Early" adopters lol didn't get HDMI

PS
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3

MGS4, Uncharted, GT5, Resistance , Motorstorm, Final Fantasy, Buzz, and Haze. Not counting cross platform, and almost half of them spawning sequels this year.

[Taft]

Buzz? Lolz let me laugh *Lolz*

[KillFelix]

Buzz? Lolz let me laugh *Lolz*

Dude buzz is awesome!

Buzz PS3: Wireless, HD and online. Bring on the beer!

[medicine_pill]

Xbox is a piece of ****.

[anhell28]

in my opinion,the 360 is so unreliable because all my friends and family already owned more than 1 360 because they ALL got the RROD more then once! thats over 30 something ppl in my family and friends ALONE! say what you want but ps3 is MUCH more reliable in my opinion that is! 08 IS SONYS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

[sigma8]

1) the 360 does have the highest rated games
2) the xbox 360 does have the most games
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its easy to work with and easy to port to ps3 or pc. The ps3 is a pain in devs butt. Blu-ray loads slow so they add install times and thats something console games should never have.
4) multi platform games usually do sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360 sell more than the best game on the ps3.
6) ps3 has no games that can match sells of the xbox 360 heavy hitters.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3
[/quote]
1. In terms of multiplatform games (which compose a decent chunk of the world's "highest rated games"), the PS3 also has these games.
2. true, unless you count the PS3's backwards compatibility, in which case it dwarfs the Xbox360. I believe the Wii also may have more games now, but they're mostly crap.
3. Is it? Or isn't it?? It certainly HAS been.. Is it now? I doubt you can prove this. Prove it or move it.
4. Why so modest? They DO sell better on the Xbox360. There's not "usually" about it.
5. Prove it.
6. Match the sales? No, no PS3 game can match Halo3. However, every other game can be matched. Bioshock can be matched, Mass Effect can be matched. In terms of sales.
7. I could say the same for the Xbox360. If you have more than 5 on the 360, I am sure that many of them are old news.

Whats funny is how ps3 owners are happy to get a game that can atleast run as good as its 360 counter part. I mean lets not mention delays or frame rate issues or bugs in some ps3 games. But let 3 games run as good as its xbox 360 counter part and ps3 owners think the ps3 has done something special. Lets not forget the ps3 was suppose to be super powerful. I find it funny that its power is struggling to get a handful of games to run as good as the xbox 360 does (power of the cell, wait 30 mins to install before using).
A lot of fanboy F.U.D. It's common knowledge that the more powerful machine does not necessarily get the best ports of games. Even so, the differences between the 360 and PS3 versions have not been showstoppers, with only a small handful of exceptions--mostly within the first 8 months of release. Hey, did Oblivion on the 360 ever get that patch they promised to "bring it up to speed" with the PS3 release?

Dont worry in "2 more years" ps3 owners will get good games. To bad this gen will be about over before that happens :rolleyes: and Nintendo will have won. Nothing sony can do, no one sony can payoff will change it. PS3 owners can be proud that blu-ray beet hd-dvd, but lost as a super game console.

Good luck with those cockamamie predictions. Microsoft is still trying to make a "real" profit (that doesn't involve pre-expensing massive repair costs). If they continue along their profitless path, you might be kissing the entire Xbox franchise goodbye sooner than you realize. Especially if they buy Yahoo. If they do that, they're going to be hard up on cash.

If MS wants to end the gen earlier with a new console, good luck with that too. Maybe we should rename them "Sega". They can release the Xbox 72x, with a separately XboxBD add-on that plays its own games.

You find it funny that the PS3 is weak and can't keep up. I find it funny that even with all these alleged problems on the PS3, it's seriously gaining on the Xbox360. Ouch!

[Mikeyy]

But everybody has different tastes. Why should somebody like me who loves Final fantasy, Metal Gear solid, Gran Turismo, ect. Conciet that the 360 has "better" games?

Do you at least see where people like me come from? I would own a 360 if it had games I wanted. It currently doesnt, and the future looks empty.

Also sombody who absolutly dislikes FPS games, is going to frikking hate the 360. Lets face it, the majority of 360's successful titles are Shooters.

I honestly feel 100% the 360 lacks the variety to be called the Best damn console ever.. It's the best if you only play stooters for sure. But thats it.

The 360s needs a Rival to Final Fantasy, The 360 needs Something to rival Metal Gear Solid, which Splinter cell aint doing..

But no, you all have bill gates stuck up your asses while burning books and screaming HEIL GATES, and putting playstation owners in concentration camps...

[danight]

The 360s needs a Rival to Final Fantasy,

lol... umm isnt this game delayed until 2010? I know seems crazy the game sony hyped 2 years ago and even before the ps3 came out has not released yet. But back to your statement. The 360 needs games to rival it? LOL surely you cant be serious. What rpg games does ps3 have? Someone please name them better yet name 1 on the ps3 that rivals ff12 on the ps2?
There is oblivion and xbox 360 had it a year before ps3 did. There is shivering isles that came out on xbox 360 before plain oblivion did on ps3.
There is enchanted arms. Came out on xbox 360 what 6 months earlier than ps3 as well.
So ok the ps3 did get 2 xbox 360 games ported! Better late then never.

But the xbox 360 has eternal sonata, mass effect, blue dragoon, lost odyssey as well. Oh lets not forget xbox 360 has a final fantasy game on it already. ff11 is on the xbox 360 as well. Best of all, all those games are out and can be played now. We dont need no "2 more year promises and delays" like ps3 has. If your looking for a future rpg then fable 2 will rock as well.

Now what rpgs are you ps3 owners playing now again? (Cant wait to see the twist you all put on this). And before any one tries, NO MOTORSTORM AND RESISTANCE IS NOT A RPG! For the love of god stop trying to use to launch games as the best example of what the ps3 can do!

How come ps3 owners try and justify why they bought a ps3 based on games that have not even came out. For 2 years at E3 sony has been promising these great games and still havent delivered. Thats the difference in last years E3. Microsoft said you will get to play great games and they delivered. While sony said "wait 2 more years" and won the hd format war and get more exclusive movies for 400 mill instead of delivering games.

[phreaker47]

Reminds me a lot of what blowhards like Ken Graffeo said when it appeared that the tide was turning for good for blu-ray against hddvd. The article he was refuting named the most recent multi-platform titles, but his response was basically "we still have the best rated games overall". Yeah. Kind of like arguing HDDVD had a higher attach rate.

[switchg3ar]

buy both consoles then who cares. If you are a hard core gamer chances are you will own both.

Why does ms keep telling us how great their console is? What are they worried about it seems like almost every week or two they come out with how great it is.

[phreaker47]

This is the best line:
"We have to disagree with your conclusion that the trend of Xbox 360 versions of games being best is changing{1}, especially when you look at the entire catalog of multiplatform titles available," added Penello. "The cold, hard truth is that Xbox 360 has the best games - and industry reviewers and consumers agree."{2}

{1} He disagrees that the trend is changing. Evaluating a changing trend would naturally involve looking exclusively at the most recent releases.
{2} Then in the next breath he says, "especially when you look at the entire catalog"

What has Bill given this guy to smoke?

[arashb]

lol... all these replies and not anything to do with the thread. Cant have a thread with out some ps3 fanboy saying rrod in it :rolleyes:

But facts are facts
1) the 360 does have the highest rated games
2) the xbox 360 does have the most games
3) xbox 360 is usually lead platform because its easy to work with and easy to port to ps3 or pc. The ps3 is a pain in devs butt. Blu-ray loads slow so they add install times and thats something console games should never have.
4) multi platform games usually do sell better on the xbox 360 than ps3.
5) crap games on the 360 sell more than the best game on the ps3.
6) ps3 has no games that can match sells of the xbox 360 heavy hitters.
7) you can still count how many "must own games" on 1 hand for the ps3

Whats funny is how ps3 owners are happy to get a game that can atleast run as good as its 360 counter part. I mean lets not mention delays or frame rate issues or bugs in some ps3 games. But let 3 games run as good as its xbox 360 counter part and ps3 owners think the ps3 has done something special. Lets not forget the ps3 was suppose to be super powerful. I find it funny that its power is struggling to get a handful of games to run as good as the xbox 360 does (power of the cell, wait 30 mins to install before using).

Dont worry in "2 more years" ps3 owners will get good games. To bad this gen will be about over before that happens :rolleyes: and Nintendo will have won. Nothing sony can do, no one sony can payoff will change it. PS3 owners can be proud that blu-ray beet hd-dvd, but lost as a super game console.

Facts are facts, deal with it 360s get RRoD, my friends just got one but Best Buy wouldn't let him use his warranty to get a PS3. Wait 30 minutes to install its all good, wait an hour to install that's fine to, just makes the load times less, TBH the 360 would probably RRoD while trying to install something for just 30 minutes. The PS3 is more powerful, deal with it. Maybe in 2 years, actually the 360 is dead what new games are you waiting for? Halo Chronicles? rofl. In 2 years the Wii and PS3 will still be living, in 2 years a new xbox will come out with a higher failure rate Xbox started at very low, 360 16.4% who knows what the next one will have, I thought consoles were suppose to get better and better. 360 will be dead after Gears of War 2 comes out, that's the only reason I'm still holding onto mine, and IF hopefully GoW3 comes out to PS3 then it's over for Microsoft, don't say it will never happen because a game that was "Game for Windows" is coming to Mac OS X, Microsoft biggest competition, I wonder why? Epic doesn't think people should have a Pay2Play fee on games, that's why they didn't let MS put that tag on UT3 and that's why Epic will never be sold to MS.

[sigma8]

Now what rpgs are you ps3 owners playing now again? (Cant wait to see the twist you all put on this). And before any one tries, NO MOTORSTORM AND RESISTANCE IS NOT A RPG! For the love of god stop trying to use to launch games as the best example of what the ps3 can do!
PS3 can play all the PS2 rpg's, which are generally better than any next-gen RPG that's out, probably until the next Final Fantasy. You implied that yourself when you challenged the poster to name a RPG better than FF12. Sucks if you have a 40gig PS3 though. No RPG's for them.

Still, I'm not sure why you are bringing up a bunch of mediocre RPG's here. Mass Effect is probably the best of the bunch, and it doesn't seem to carry the same clout that, say, Knights of the Old Republic had. Who cares if you have Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon? A pair of fine C+ games on metacritic. Grats. Hey, that's about the same general neighborhood as Folklore! So I guess the PS3 has that..

How come ps3 owners try and justify why they bought a ps3 based on games that have not even came out. For 2 years at E3 sony has been promising these great games and still havent delivered. Thats the difference in last years E3. Microsoft said you will get to play great games and they delivered. While sony said "wait 2 more years" and won the hd format war and get more exclusive movies for 400 mill instead of delivering games.
Nice figure-pulling from the butt. The 400 million "bribe" is not nearly as solid of a rumor as the 150 million bribe. Has MS delivered? Sure. I guess. A slew of A-rated games that people still seem to find lots to complain about in the secondary reviews. Maybe MS would have been able to out-bid that 400 million if they didn't spend it on bribing magazine editors.

What did they deliver, anyway? Hm?
Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo3? ANYTHING ELSE that you think is noteworthy enough to add?

The PS3 delivered Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk... Maybe they're not quite as highly rated, but if you look at the reasons why, it's a bit suspicious that they weren't rated higher. In any case, they're certainly enjoyable games. Perhaps more importantly, these games are largely all different kinds of games. There's very little overlap here.

They both shared the multiplatform releases, which have been coming out at the same time lately, if you haven't noticed.

You do know it's not 2006/2007 anymore, right?

[segaman1977]

The 40gb model does not play PS2 games, just PS1. Justifying a strong PS2 RPG library is irrelevant to most PS3 owners anyway, as much as it is ignorant saying how old outdated games can hold off PS3 owners till FF13 comes out. It is amazing how PS3 owners defend their system on games that haven't come out yet. FF13 and MGS4 could actually suck as far as we know. Just because a game has the words Final and Fantasy in its title doesn't automatically make it an amazing game. The Final Fantasy series have gotten worse since FF6 and FF7, same with MGS. Metal Gear Solid 1 was very rememerable, and the sequels have declined in impact. Sales figures back this up. And yes, the 360 has a deluge of FPS but it does have a higher ratio of RPGS and Action titles than the PS3 does right now so constantly calling it a FPS system is contradictory. As far as failure rates, I have always been skeptical. Almost all my friends have 360s, and I can't think of any that ever had a system issue, although 1 damaged his USB ports by accident and MS fixed it for free even though it should have been deemed abuse. A lot of us own PS3s also (and Wiis, we are gamers at heart), but the reality is that we are always playing our 360s online. Even when we go to each others houses, we are almost always playing the 360 instead of the PS3. That means alot in the overall picture. I will admit that if you want a total package, the PS3 is the best price value, but if the system isn't fun, then cost effectiveness is irrelevant. A lot of people that bash the 360 don't own one. You have to own and heavily use all three consoles to justify opinions. I'm not rich by any means, but I will rent games for all three consoles just to form my own opinions. I just finished Devil May Cry 4 on both systems, and they both are the closest ports I have seen so far on any game. The 360s loading time is not much different than the PS3, which is sad considering that I had to install the PS3 version and waste HD space for no advantage. When a new game comes out, I am excited and want to take it home and play it asap. The installation is a nuance on one system when I know I can insert and play in the other. Going back to hardware failure, the PS1 worked great, but PS2s had an unacceptable failure rate, and took four years to level out. And as often as I hear in regards to the 360 "this is unnacceptable for a next gen system", at one point in time the PS2 was a "next gen" system. Although as mentioned before about being skeptical about 360 failure rates, going from the alledged 33% to 16% in a matter of months is definately the right direction, and hopefully won't be an issue at all by this Xmas. To sum it up 1) the now is important, and the 360 is the best sytem for good games 2) don't assume the quality of games that aren't out or you haven't played 3)actually own or FULLY experience a console before commenting about it

[Rotmm]

But everybody has different tastes. Why should somebody like me who loves Final fantasy, Metal Gear solid, Gran Turismo, ect. Conciet that the 360 has "better" games?

Because, at present, the PS3 also doesn't have Final fantasy, Metal Gear solid and Gran Turismo.

Also sombody who absolutly dislikes FPS games, is going to frikking hate the 360. Lets face it, the majority of 360's successful titles are Shooters.

Again, at present, the 360 has a far broader range of games to choose from than the 360. The PS3 is more shooter heavy, as a percentage of the total software available, than the 360. The 360 also has more racers, RPG's, JRPG's, sports games, Action Adventure games, Third Person Shooters, etc than the PS3, with greater diversity within those genres.

In fact, my worry is that the console is Sports and Racer heavy, not FPS.

I honestly feel 100% the 360 lacks the variety to be called the Best damn console ever.. It's the best if you only play stooters for sure. But thats it.

As I said, at present, far more variety on the 360 than PS3.

The 360s needs a Rival to Final Fantasy, The 360 needs Something to rival Metal Gear Solid, which Splinter cell aint doing..

Well, the PS3 actually needs Final Fantasy.... which isn't going to happen this year. As for MGS4, let's hope it's a good game. But one thing is clear, it's far more focused on being a shooter than previous titles.

But no, you all have bill gates stuck up your asses while burning books and screaming HEIL GATES, and putting playstation owners in concentration camps...

Methinks you are too busy wearing blinkers and sucking up to Sony Corp to see the truth right in front of your nose.

[Xenogears V]

Microsoft tells us why the Xbox 360 better than the PS3

ROTFL!!!.:D:D:D

[MadonnaProject]

PS3 can play all the PS2 rpg's, which are generally better than any next-gen RPG that's out, probably until the next Final Fantasy. You implied that yourself when you challenged the poster to name a RPG better than FF12. Sucks if you have a 40gig PS3 though. No RPG's for them.
You do know it's not 2006/2007 anymore, right?

uh....final fantasy 13 is NOT a real final fantasy anyways. apart from the name. the real creators have all moved in different directions. the only next gen rpg that truely feels like a final fantasy title is lost odyssey. because it has most of the creative team from the REAL final fantasy games, and what made them great.

apart from that all you have are mediocre final fantasy 7 spin offs. and whats up with fabula nova crystallis? 3 final fantasy titles based on one game?

ill get it sure. just dont feel very final fantasy thats all.

[sigma8]

The 40gb model does not play PS2 games, just PS1. Justifying a strong PS2 RPG library is irrelevant to most PS3 owners anyway, as much as it is ignorant saying how old outdated games can hold off PS3 owners till FF13 comes out. It is amazing how PS3 owners defend their system on games that haven't come out yet.
Well, it's true that the 40g PS3 makes this a nonissue, but I think the popularity of the 80g and 60g models prove that people are using (or think they will use) BC. I think that with RPG's, specifically, the emphasis is firmly on story. People are generally happy to play an RPG on any platform, because the fundamentals are the same. Stats, story, progression.. I mean, how different is Golden Sun on the GBA compared to Grandia II on the PS2? They're not that different in ways that matter.

If you're talking racing games or FPS games, there's a big difference between a PS2 and PS3 game. There can be big differences in RPG games as well, but for one reason or another, nobody has really made that happen yet. Honestly, the best RPG I've seen in years was Knights of the Old Republic--and yes that was an Xbox game. KotOR was not a JRPG at all, and benefitted from it. It was very immersive. I'm not saying JRPG's are bad. I like them. But honestly, I'd rather play Lunar 2 on the PS1 than many more "advanced" JRPG's. They haven't changed much.

FF13 and MGS4 could actually suck as far as we know. Just because a game has the words Final and Fantasy in its title doesn't automatically make it an amazing game. The Final Fantasy series have gotten worse since FF6 and FF7, same with MGS.
Highly debatable. 8 was good, 10 was good, 12 was good. They're all so freaking different and ridiculous. I'm not really sure how you can even judge. With MGS, many CRITICS say that MGS3: Snake Eater was the best of the bunch.

Metal Gear Solid 1 was very rememerable, and the sequels have declined in impact. Sales figures back this up.
MGS1: 6 million
MGS2: 7 million
MGS3: 4 million
(thanks, wikipedia)

Do they really back that up? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT AND NOT DEMONSTRATE FIGURES?

And yes, the 360 has a deluge of FPS but it does have a higher ratio of RPGS and Action titles than the PS3 does right now so constantly calling it a FPS system is contradictory.

Does it have a higher ratio? Do you know what that means? That means if the PS3 has four FPS games, and the Xbox360 has 28 FPS games, then the Xbox360 will need to have 7 RPG titles for every ONE that the PS3 has.

As far as failure rates, I have always been skeptical. Almost all my friends have 360s, and I can't think of any that ever had a system issue
Well, you know, there is actual science backing it up now. We have a warranty company that has conclusively determined that there is a 16% failure rate. That's lower (and more reliable) than previous estimates, but still extremely high.

but if the system isn't fun, then cost effectiveness is irrelevant. A lot of people that bash the 360 don't own one. You have to own and heavily use all three consoles to justify opinions.
There are a lot of people of all kinds. Many people own the PS3 only and bash the 360, or they own the 360 and bash the PS3. Many people own them both, of these people you'll find both PS3 and 360 bashers. People are not entirely logical or scientific, here. There's a lot of favoritism and fanboy loyalty that is all bound up in this. You also will have times where if 1 person has 4 friends begging him to play 360, he will prefer 360. But that's not on the merits of the 360. If he didn't have any friends on the 360, he might have been just as happy or happier with the PS3. FWIW, my friends have coerced me into buying COD4 for the PS3. Left to me own ends, I would have gotten it for PC (keyboard/mouse), but I got the PS3 one and there's more chance I play that one, because of who ELSE I know who has that game.

[onyxx]

Microsoft tells us why the Xbox 360 better than the PS3
ROTFL!!!.:D:D:D

I have to actually agree with Xenogears here, you guys got suckered into a debate over a company telling us why their product is better, duh of course they would say that this isn't news.

[Gamer87]

Because, at present, the PS3 also doesn't have Final fantasy, Metal Gear solid and Gran Turismo.



Again, at present, the 360 has a far broader range of games to choose from than the 360. The PS3 is more shooter heavy, as a percentage of the total software available, than the 360. The 360 also has more racers, RPG's, JRPG's, sports games, Action Adventure games, Third Person Shooters, etc than the PS3, with greater diversity within those genres.

In fact, my worry is that the console is Sports and Racer heavy, not FPS.



As I said, at present, far more variety on the 360 than PS3.



Well, the PS3 actually needs Final Fantasy.... which isn't going to happen this year. As for MGS4, let's hope it's a good game. But one thing is clear, it's far more focused on being a shooter than previous titles.



Methinks you are too busy wearing blinkers and sucking up to Sony Corp to see the truth right in front of your nose.

Obviously it's going to have a larger library since it started the race a lap (year) ahead of the PS3.

As for the delay of games, last I checked it took Gears of War a year to be released and others such as Forza 2, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey about two years.

Are you serious about the PS3 needing Final Fantasy? It is making decent and even better sales than the 360's first year at present.

I'd say the world outside Japan is anticipating God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, LittleBigPlanet and even PS2 games such as Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES than Final Fantasy.

[Sаtel]

i love my 360 but one day when the ps3 is cheaper i will get one.

i bought a dreamcast and loved it but then ps2 price came down and i got one and never played dreamcast again in my life.