WiiScrubber v1.0 Released

[ThugStyle]

Drastically reduce sizes of Wii ISO with WiiScrubb v1.0
It removes all garbage data from wii isos and fills it with 00s for better compression.
Wii Sports = 100mb, Excite Truck = 900mb the list goes on.

and also here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=76101 <== download

I did mail this news to the admin of MaxC but I guess it's not big enough for their portal or something.

Hope you all like this, already repacks of scene are appearing on various sites drastically shrunken.

[onyxx]

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

[Rage-X]

Cant wait till they create a HDD loading .elf for the Twilight exploit!

Shitloads of games + no waste of DVDs

[AcCeSsDeNiEd]

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

It's useful if you want to store a backup of the iso on your hdd.
Among other uses.

This is very big news indeed.

Should be front page.

[lost4468]

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

Yes, but people who torrent games, can download it WAY faster.

[Fe_man2000]

think this is more a downloading/storage thing - most likey the game will still need to "repadded" up to 4GB and burn to DVD's to be run. good though

[Ebf18]

Maybe having the unnecessary stuff removed will help out when it comes to reading the dvd. Would be nice if this can make SMBB fit into a dvd5.

[ThugStyle]

think this is more a downloading/storage thing - most likey the game will still need to "repadded" up to 4GB and burn to DVD's to be run. good though

Actually the app does it all for you. You input a full iso, you get back a full iso, only the output file can be burnt same as always or compressed way more than original.

@Ebf18
Afaik this hasn't yet been tested on brawl, but I doubt it would make significant difference or ninty would have just used dvd5? Unless it was an attempt to thwart current chips...

[someoldguy]

Cant wait till they create a HDD loading .elf for the Twilight exploit!

Shitloads of games + no waste of DVDs

The games on the HDD will still be 4+ gigs unless they manage to run them from compressed zip/rar/etc.

This is a good thing. Discs that you burn aren't crapified like GC wiped discs often were. The data stays in the same place, the garbage is removed for better compression.

[panyan1991]

here you go so you dont have to wade through gbatemp

key.bin?????

[ThugStyle]

Here is v1.0a (small addition) http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=1868

[ando2k5]

needs a key.bin

[rnelson1415]

Where do you get the key.bin?

[panyan1991]

cooking mama was reduced to 90KB with winrar best comression - is this possible? - im assuming not

[BadAdd]

would it be possible using this tool to somehow shrink a large iso say SSBX to a smaller size on one machine....then transfer to another machine and unpack it to its original state for burning purposes?
thanks

[ando2k5]

am i right in thinking we need to extract the key.bin from every iso to allow the game to be loaded in the app

[MadonnaProject]

this is what happened with the gamecube games. they released a multi dvd game iso thing, but the gamecube wouldnt often work with the multi iso dics because it couldnt read past 1.4gb.

and i am not going to play gamecube games on the wii. sorry. i barely even play wii games on the wii. this would have been helpful if there was a homebrew app out which could play these unpadded iso's off of a dvd. i am sure one would come out but not as yet.

which means this as of the time being is just a good discovery, not very useful right now, but will be in the future.

apart from downloading the shrunken iso's, which i have to admit will become easier for those who download wii games.

[deadrabbit]

Google search for 'teambadattitude key.bin' and you might find something.

[The_Nothing]

Thank god. Now we will be able to download ISO's much faster, because seriously downloading 4 Gigs of a game that should really be less than 1 gig was annoying as hell.

Example: Geometry Wars Galaxies should not be a f**king 4 gig game.

So this is a good app.

[morinzo1978]

http://rapidshare.com/files/94018459/key.rar.html

[panyan1991]

would it be possible using this tool to somehow shrink a large iso say SSBX to a smaller size on one machine....then transfer to another machine and unpack it to its original state for burning purposes?
thanks

*mumble**mumble**mumble*usenet and torrents *mumble**mumble**mumble*

[sqweeks]

Well I hope to see a bunch of posts under 4GB tomorrow on Newzbin:D

[panyan1991]

this was posted on gbatemp - i hold no responsibility for this post:

"EBE42A225E8593E448D9C5457381AAF7"

that is the whole post - make of it what you will;););););););););););););

[ando2k5]

im slightly confused just ran excite truck through it thinking it would bring it down to the 836mb it says it is

but no i end up with a iso of the same size

does this actually work

nvm it needs to be compressed to see the difference

defeats the purpose really

[lc204]

This would explain the amount of crap games on the Wii. If there's that much garbage data on the disc, then the game is garbage. Hopefully we'll soon be able to put the iso on sd cards and just load them.

[morinzo1978]

it dont make iso smaller, zip the iso after you run it thru the prog, then it'll get smaller.. only thing this is gonna do is make faster downloads..

[Hogmeister]

im slightly confused just ran excite truck through it thinking it would bring it down to the 836mb it says it is

but no i end up with a iso of the same size

does this actually work

nvm it needs to be compressed to see the difference

defeats the purpose really

no, that IS the purpose.. compress it to rars so its only 850MBish and then when you uncompress it you are able to burn it to A dvd regularly and it'll play just fine. as has been stated a number of times, its more or less for storage and i'm sure inevitably download purposes. get over it, its not going to make the iso itself smaller until theres a way to have the wii read non-standard size discs/games. (which of course with the way the wii homebrew scene is looking it could in the near future, or it could be never.. who knows)

as of now this is nothing more than a tool to remove the trash from the iso's and pad them w/ blank data so the blank data can be compressed for storage reasons

[Ichinisan]

I was able to re-RAR a scrubbed iso of "Big Brain Academy" from 92x50MB to 26x50MB. It went from 4.3GB to 1.17GB.

Lovely! :)

According to Dack, an upcoming version will leave the sector headers intact and also produce differential (DIFF) files to restore a scrubbed iso to its original contents if future games are determined to have compatibility issues after being released to the scene.

[Ichinisan]

no, that IS the purpose.. compress it to rars so its only 850MBish and then when you uncompress it you are able to burn it to A dvd regularly and it'll play just fine. as has been stated a number of times, its more or less for storage and i'm sure inevitably download purposes. get over it, its not going to make the iso itself smaller until theres a way to have the wii read non-standard size discs/games. (which of course with the way the wii homebrew scene is looking it could in the near future, or it could be never.. who knows)

as of now this is nothing more than a tool to remove the trash from the iso's and pad them w/ blank data so the blank data can be compressed for storage reasons

Exactly. It's easy to compare the contents of garbage data to static noise. Identifying and replacing those large gaps with smooth, blank, bytes helps your compression software immensely.

[desfunk]

This is one of THE greatest apps to hit the Wii scene!!! Yeah, it's not much of a help to the average home user, but for release groups this is a godsend! No more nabbing 4.14gb sized files, now everything can be compressed MUCH nicer!

I bet with a bit more testing, all groups will choose this as their app of choice for releasing new games. Making it easier for your average joe to nab a game in a much quicker time frame.

[felixm477]

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

this isnt used for the purpose of sticking it on a cd, if anything its purpose is to make it easier to store and transfer iso's, this would make downloading scene releases ALOT easier for most.

[cls]

im slightly confused just ran excite truck through it thinking it would bring it down to the 836mb it says it is

but no i end up with a iso of the same size

does this actually work

nvm it needs to be compressed to see the difference

defeats the purpose really

Ash try zipping the 2 iso's then you will see what it has done

[wiggim]

now wheres the RAR ISO loader :P

[Virus-D]

Umm is this really a good idea?
If I remember correctly, there was a similar tool that I may or may not have used ;) for GC images that screwed them up. Will this application repeat history or will it do it correctly this time? Perhaps some extended testing is needed first?

Why not keep the originals and burn them on disc as is.
If you're going to store them on a HDD... space is cheap, get some more space.

[tralalawala]

This is one of THE greatest apps to hit the Wii scene!!! Yeah, it's not much of a help to the average home user, but for release groups this is a godsend!

No real group will even touch this useless prog, as others have said lame groups did the same thing on the gcn for a while. Real groups however kept the iso as original. It maybe of some use if/when it auto creates diff files so that the iso can be recreated but until then it's just a lame kiddie repackers dream.

[Virus-D]

No real group will even touch this useless prog, as others have said lame groups did the same thing on the gcn for a while. Real groups however kept the iso as original. It maybe of some use if/when it auto creates diff files so that the iso can be recreated but until then it's just a lame kiddie repackers dream.

LoL, word.

[Dirtie]

No real group will even touch this useless prog, as others have said lame groups did the same thing on the gcn for a while. Real groups however kept the iso as original. It maybe of some use if/when it auto creates diff files so that the iso can be recreated but until then it's just a lame kiddie repackers dream.

No, real groups did exactly the same thing with GCN ISOs once it was figured out how to do so. Garbage data replaced (not removed) with easily compressible data that will make rars smaller, but still produce a full-sized ISO when extracted. ALL groups used this method later on when it was discovered that trimmed ISOs caused issues.

The only difference this time around is the encryption on the Wii discs (so encrypted garbage is being overwritten rather than just garbage), and the fact that since the Wii is online-enabled, an update could theoretically make these copies detectable.

[CZroe]

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

Downloading 4.7GB of encrypted data RAR'd is a whole lot worse than downloading a 4.7GB file that compresses to 100MB. It's for piracy / leeching for the time being. Someday soon, we could get a soft-mod that can load a multi-game disc with compressed ISOs. Considering the chicken and egg scenario, it's not so nefarious.

i realize the games are padded but is there really a use for this? i mean if they actually reduce the size to fit on a CD does the Wii have the support to even play off a CD? would be useful is we had HDD support i guess.

Downloading 4.7GB of encrypted data RAR'd is a whole lot worse than downloading a 4.7GB file that compresses to 100MB. It's for piracy / leeching for the time being. Someday soon, we could get a soft-mod that can load a multi-game disc with compressed ISOs. Considering the chicken and egg scenario, it's not so nefarious.

It's useful if you want to store a backup of the iso on your hdd.
Among other uses.

This is very big news indeed.

Should be front page.

But very soon Wii games will start checking random sectors of this "garbage data" as a copy-protection measure, so that will only be useful for existing games.

think this is more a downloading/storage thing - most likey the game will still need to "repadded" up to 4GB and burn to DVD's to be run. good though

It remains "padded" with 0s so it will be 4.7GB uncompressed. By replacing garbage data with 0s and resigning it, traditional compression works MUCH better while the disc image remains bootable. Who knows though? We may be able to run multi-game compressed ISOs very soon.

The games on the HDD will still be 4+ gigs unless they manage to run them from compressed zip/rar/etc.

This is a good thing. Discs that you burn aren't crapified like GC wiped discs often were. The data stays in the same place, the garbage is removed for better compression.

You can't run games from the HDD, so there's no reason to leave them uncompressed after burning at the moment.

this is what happened with the gamecube games. they released a multi dvd game iso thing, but the gamecube wouldnt often work with the multi iso dics because it couldnt read past 1.4gb.

and i am not going to play gamecube games on the wii. sorry. i barely even play wii games on the wii. this would have been helpful if there was a homebrew app out which could play these unpadded iso's off of a dvd. i am sure one would come out but not as yet.

which means this as of the time being is just a good discovery, not very useful right now, but will be in the future.

apart from downloading the shrunken iso's, which i have to admit will become easier for those who download wii games.

If you admit it, then why do you pretend that the chicken & egg scenario you are clearly aware of is the only factor?

im slightly confused just ran excite truck through it thinking it would bring it down to the 836mb it says it is

but no i end up with a iso of the same size

does this actually work

nvm it needs to be compressed to see the difference

defeats the purpose really

No it doesn't. The purpose is for shrinking the ISO for internet transmission and possible CSO multi-game disc or soft-mod use in the future. You don't send someone the raw *.iso file with or without this tool.

This would explain the amount of crap games on the Wii. If there's that much garbage data on the disc, then the game is garbage. Hopefully we'll soon be able to put the iso on sd cards and just load them.

GreeEAAAT insight. Judging a game by the file size says more about you than the game, retard.

now wheres the RAR ISO loader :P

CSO would work too. ;)

Umm is this really a good idea?
If I remember correctly, there was a similar tool that I may or may not have used ;) for GC images that screwed them up. Will this application repeat history or will it do it correctly this time? Perhaps some extended testing is needed first?

Why not keep the originals and burn them on disc as is.
If you're going to store them on a HDD... space is cheap, get some more space.

Think "transmission," not "storage." Once the releases on the net are using this, then we will see an impact on storage, but those should be tested and nuked if it causes a problem, so the rip you'd download would be full-sized. It's still a "win."

[xxdimixx]

What we need now is a Bios like GCOS for the Wii.:D So we would be able to play compressed games or multigame-discs or start them from HD...

[arashb]

ThugStyle, thanks but can you please add Mac OS X support? I have an Intel Mac running Leopard and would be more than happy to test for you if you would like. I have requested an OS X port for many different apps and nobody has done so :(. Please it would suck if I had to run VMWare or Dualboot into Windows just to burn a wii game :(.

[CZroe]

ThugStyle, thanks but can you please add Mac OS X support? I have an Intel Mac running Leopard and would be more than happy to test for you if you would like. I have requested an OS X port for many different apps and nobody has done so :(. Please it would suck if I had to run VMWare or Dualboot into Windows just to burn a wii game :(.

Most programmers don't have the ability to port because they don't have the ability to use both like you do. ;) If I had an Intel Mac, you can be damned sure that I'd have both Boot Camp (dual-booting) and VMWARE installed so I can spend as much time as possible in OS X and only switch to Windows when needed (and it WILL be needed).

[arashb]

Most programmers don't have the ability to port because they don't have the ability to use both like you do. ;) If I had an Intel Mac, you can be damned sure that I'd have both Boot Camp (dual-booting) and VMWARE installed so I can spend as much time as possible in OS X and only switch to Windows when needed (and it WILL be needed).

Yeah I use to do that but when I installed leopard I didn't really feel like reinstalling that :(. I'd still rather to do it all in native OS X, but I guess it's not always possible :(.

[JuC]

Hey guys! I bring to you the popular key.bin to run it... there are rumors that Dack didn't attached on the rar because he wasn't sure if it's legal... but I do it for you

Download key.bin (http://rapidshare.com/files/84476080/key.bin)

JuC!

[Captain N1]

They will fit great on a 2 gig sd card.

and when the zelda explode leads to a custom "Homebrew Channel" we can run isos off an sd card.

[panyan1991]

i can now fit 30 games onto a dvd instead of 1 for backup purposes

[BadAdd]

has anyone tested on a dual layer (bigger) iso yet? i.e smash bros?
*edit* sorry just read somewhere that its only compatable with single layer at the moment....damn,

[Xenogears V]

Don't I see the utility, does thing change if in a dvd they are 4 Gbs or 100 Mb?:confused:.

[xpertmac]

ok i dont know why no one has said this or tried this yet, but i took the Super Smash Bros Brawl JAP iso and this software shrunk it down to 4.37gb. I burned it to a dvd5 and the game played flawlessly......anyone else with the same luck?? :):)

Just an FYI: i have a cyclowiz with latest fw on a NTSC wii

[ichiro51zr]

gj xpert, contradictions are here now

[CZroe]

ok i dont know why no one has said this or tried this yet, but i took the Super Smash Bros Brawl JAP iso and this software shrunk it down to 4.37gb. I burned it to a dvd5 and the game played flawlessly......anyone else with the same luck?? :):)

Just an FYI: i have a cyclowiz with latest fw on a NTSC wii

has anyone tested on a dual layer (bigger) iso yet? i.e smash bros?
*edit* sorry just read somewhere that its only compatable with single layer at the moment....damn,

If it doesn't have DL support, you're probably just getting one, full, layer as the output. If it is 4.37GB uncompresed, then that is exactly what you have. If it even works at all, the game will crash in certain modes like the single-layer release in the 'net.

[xpertmac]

If it doesn't have DL support, you're probably just getting one, full, layer as the output. If it is 4.37GB uncompresed, then that is exactly what you have. If it even works at all, the game will crash in certain modes like the single-layer release in the 'net.

what mode of the game would i have to test to see if both layers work??

this would definately see if this really works on SSBB....

thanks guys

[Ichinisan]

what mode of the game would i have to test to see if both layers work??

this would definately see if this really works on SSBB....

thanks guys

The WiiScrubber app is not supposed to shrink ISO's. The output file size should be identical to the size of the input file. WiiScrubber only identifies the random values assigned to large blocks of garbage data and replaces them with smooth, blank bytes. The number of bytes is still the same, so the resulting file size is the same. If your output file was smaller and you didn't even zip/RAR it, then the WiiScrubber app is malfunctioning because it doesn't understand a dual-layer ISO.

From the top of this page:

has anyone tested on a dual layer (bigger) iso yet? i.e smash bros?
*edit* sorry just read somewhere that its only compatable with single layer at the moment....damn,

WiiScrubber is only compatible with single-layer at the moment. It should have been called an "Alpha", "Beta", or "Preview" release; not "1.0". :rolleyes:

I can't wait until someone modifies the source code (also released by Dack) and updates it to support dual-layer ISO's and the production of .diff files.

[malsuk]

all this development is getting very interesting..;)

[xpertmac]

The WiiScrubber app is not supposed to shrink ISO's. The output file size should be identical to the size of the input file. WiiScrubber only identifies the random values assigned to large blocks of garbage data and replaces them with smooth, blank bytes. The number of bytes is still the same, so the resulting file size is the same. If your output file was smaller and you didn't even zip/RAR it, then the WiiScrubber app is malfunctioning because it doesn't understand a dual-layer ISO.

From the top of this page:



WiiScrubber is only compatible with single-layer at the moment. It should have been called an "Alpha", "Beta", or "Preview" release; not "1.0". :rolleyes:

I can't wait until someone modifies the source code (also released by Dack) and updates it to support dual-layer ISO's and the production of .diff files.

please forgive my ignorance, but can someone answer my original question being "does anyone know what part of this game uses the second layer of the disk for me to test to see if it ripped the whole game or just the first layer"

thanks guys

[drquack02]

Sub Space 10 characters

[hoagie_one]

A thought. Anyone looking into an app that can identify these garbage sectors while dumping data disks to speed up the dumping process? As it is now a single layer disk takes like 3 hours to dump and the only dual layer disk, much longer.

[CZroe]

please forgive my ignorance, but can someone answer my original question being "does anyone know what part of this game uses the second layer of the disk for me to test to see if it ripped the whole game or just the first layer"

thanks guys

If your ISO *fit* on a single-layer disc, it doesn't matter what part it is: It didn't work. Read the NFO for the single-layer release if you still want to know what doesn't work for some reason.

Let's consider a scenario where SSBB works with this utility: SSBB will be the exact same size after using this utility and will require exactly as much space when burned to a disc. The only difference is that it will better compress the second layer portion of the ISO (or whichever portion has the garbage data) when you ZIP/RAR the ISO for other reasons (alternate backup as a file on a UDF disc, Internet transmission, making room on a portable hard drive, etc).

Your 4.XGB ISO of SSBB was either made from the 4.XGB original or you are missing a layer of data.

[Ichinisan]

A thought. Anyone looking into an app that can identify these garbage sectors while dumping data disks to speed up the dumping process? As it is now a single layer disk takes like 3 hours to dump and the only dual layer disk, much longer.

You might just want to spend a few dollars on an SD Gecko adapter. It's faster.

[ThugStyle]

ThugStyle, thanks but can you please add Mac OS X support? I have an Intel Mac running Leopard and would be more than happy to test for you if you would like. I have requested an OS X port for many different apps and nobody has done so :(. Please it would suck if I had to run VMWare or Dualboot into Windows just to burn a wii game :(.

I'm not the author of the app mate, you need to ask Dack of gbatemp. I believe a few people have already asked for mac support and I imagine the more that ask the more chance you have of him adding it :)