Opinion: Evidence indicates GTA IV is superior on Xbox 360

[Zeus]

A blog by the name of TechSpy decided to try and weight up whether the Xbox 360 or the PS3 version of GTA IV will be superior. They indicate that as of right now, evidence is piling up that the game will be better on the Xbox 360. They claim its the lead platform, and the only complete version with exclusive story content thats developed by a team which is already super familiar with the hardware of the Xbox 360.



So which version of GTAIV is superior? Well as of now the evidence points to the Xbox 360 version. And it is certainly a mountain of strong, undeniable evidence.

Will things change in the future? Who knows? This is the game industry and anything can happen. But as of now I'd hedge my bets on the Xbox 360 version. Its the lead platform version. Its the only complete version with exclusive story content. And its been developed by a team that's already well familiar with the Xbox 360 hardware. It all makes perfect sense when you think about it.


News Source: <A href="http://techspyblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/gtaiv-is-xbox-360-version-superior.html" target="_blank">Techspy</a>

[Xenogears V]

Bullsh*t!.

But if really the creators, have said are identical for both the consoles, the news has been published really here, only I don't remember some days ago where.

[martin.ca]

So Xbox 360 version is better than PlayStation 3 version? That's good news. :)

[LastinFirstout]

i bet ps3 version will be the better one just like n4s pro streets,simpsons...etc

[msanchez]

Well since that guy said that it was the ps3's fault that they got delayed this is certainly believable. I'm not really a fan of these games, but for those that do like them it does seem like they won't be disappointed regardless of what console they buy it for.

[bobbyballard]

i bet ps3 version will be the better one just like n4s pro streets,simpsons...etc


Ok, champ, if you're going to troll an opinionated news topic then you should absolutely bring your A Game.

Don't use two games which are so bad that they shouldn't have bothered being conceptualized on paper. Forget even being developed. **** shouldn't have left the cutting room floor.

[pangbulle]

I have to admit, those are some weak speculations. Either way, its going to be awesome enough on both consoles.

[Trashcat]

i bet ps3 version will be the better one just like n4s pro streets,simpsons...etc
If you bring up EA games as an example for anything except their shitty quality you don't know what you are talking about.

[EliteStance]

I like the way he takes everything at face value except the explict comment, by Rockstar themselves, that both versions are now 'neck and neck'...

Based on the very sources he quotes the only conclusion is that, after extended development to get the PS3 version (probably started later than the 360 version) up to speed the game was delayed, and that now, after that delay both versions (exclusive 360 extra content aside) the two versions are essentially identical.

[LastinFirstout]

i bet ps3 version will be the better one just like n4s pro streets,simpsons...etc

& its nothing to do with developers its the machine so as long as the game is made the same for both consoles then rest assure the PS3 version will be the superior one & xbox360 will end up been the dull version as usual this is because the PS3 is much better HDMI machine. (sharper & clearer picture for games & movies). imho a well made HDMI system by Sony.

i own both consoles & if you dont believe what i just said then go try the same game on both systems. ;)

plz dont cry trueth hurts i know. :(

[NexusBurst]

I won't judge until i see both products finished. Ports are getting better burnout and dmc4 have demonstrated this. Would rockstar really let a game go out worse on a system thats treated them so well all this time? No.. rockstar just spent extra months polishing the game and problem solving.

[atrocity595]

Too bad all the 12 year olds on XBL won't fit the M-rated criteria..

[Shin555]

So Xbox 360 version is better than PlayStation 3 version? That's good news. :)

How on earth is that good news?

Its in my opinion bad news for gamers, i probably see it that way as i don't give a crap what console it is for i just care about the game or any game in general. Its only ass-kissers (the ones who probably praise there console so much in hope to make you believe you made a good choice in buying it) like you who say its good news.

I guess what i'm trying to say is its more about the games than it is the platform your playing it on, and its definitely not good news as the consoles are supposed to be fairly evenly matched and if the games aren't then some gamers are gonna get shafted.

Anyhow, i pre-ordered it for the PS3 as i don't have as much games for it than the 360, oh and it will probably be easier to cheat if i just wanna mess around and cause some mayhem. If its crap for the PS3 then i'll just swap it for the 360 version.

[Trashcat]

How on earth is that good news?
Its in my opinion bad news for gamers, i probably see it that way as i don't give a crap what console it is for i just care about the game or any game in general. Its only ass-kissers (the ones who probably praise there console so much in hope to make you believe you made a good choice in buying it) like you who say its good news.
I guess what i'm trying to say is its more about the games than it is the platform your playing it on, and its definitely not good news as the consoles are supposed to be fairly evenly matched and if the games aren't then some gamers are gonna get shafted.
Anyhow, i pre-ordered it for the PS3 as i don't have as much games for it than the 360, oh and it will probably be easier to cheat if i just wanna mess around and cause some mayhem. If its crap for the PS3 then i'll just swap it for the 360 version.
Actually it is good news since 360 is the more powerful hardware, if 360 version does end up being better upon release it means Rockstar did use both systems to the max. The difference won't be huge though, ps3 will probably have worse textures and no AA.

[XxBigP123xX]

Actually it is good news since 360 is the more powerful hardware, if 360 version does end up being better upon release it means Rockstar did use both systems to the max. The difference won't be huge though, ps3 will probably have worse textures and no AA.

You're funny Trashcat. We're talking about a 3rd party game. Look at games like Uncharted, Ratchet, RFOM, and MS and shut your big fanboy mouth.

[Shin555]

Actually it is good news since 360 is the more powerful hardware, if 360 version does end up being better upon release it means Rockstar did use both systems to the max. The difference won't be huge though, ps3 will probably have worse textures and no AA.

I disagree. And it seems like i said earlier you get people praising the console they own, rather than one they don't (I read some of your past posts and you said you don't own a PS3), and lets be honest its quite natural to feel this way, as you will inevitably be quite biased, i am not a fanboy, but even i am minutely biased towards the 360 as it has/had more variety of games. But i'm equally as happy with my PS3 too.

But tell me this how much of a chance did you really give the PS3? Or is it just because you had a first impression or whatever then just decided to criticise it?

Oh and by the way any gamer would see this as bad news, if it was true, only the ignorant ones who hold such a grudge against another platform would see it as good news.

[dalezer]

Can wait for the game. I LOVE GTA!!!! omg... lol 360 just makes it that much sw33ter. I remember the old XBOX vs PS2 comparison for GTA SA, Vice, and GTA3. XBOX had sw33ter graphix.

[ok123]

The article first started of fine, but when he said "ouch!" when he quoted Gabe Nevell, i thought "hm.. ok?". Using the SPEs on CELL CPU has proven to have an advantage. Just check out the 1st party games from Sony that takes advantage of the SPUs, they usually looks great compared to some of the 3rd party PS3 games. I've also read that the Orange Box for the PS3 (i know Valve didnt do this port, but i'm just saying) does take advantage of the SPEs at all, and that is one of the reasons why some games in the Orange Box has framerate issues. Dont know if its true that the game does uses any of the SPEs though, but it would make sence why the game has frame rate issues.

He also says the PS2 is like the PS3, that both is a b1tch to produce games for. Altho that might be true, how many PS2 games excist today? Its atleast several of thousands. So much for "hard to develope for" hehe :P Its no secret that PS3 is hard to develope for though, but developers are learning how to use the PS3 hardware in the best ways possible. I dont see why Rockstar is any exception here. They did a good job on the GTA games for PS2 in my opinion and i'm sure they can do a good job with GTA games for PS3 as well.

Later on when he started to talk about about how bad the Sixaxis is, that you cant change batteries and that the recharge cable is short etc. Altho sort of valid complaints about the controller, but what does this complaint have to do with GTA4 as in the game itself (which the article is about)? How does GTA4 on PS3 get worse because you cant change the batteries in the PS3 controller or that the recharge cable is short? These things doesnt change anything when it comes to the game itself. He says "it should also be mentioned that..", but i dont see why its relevant to mention this when the article is about which version of GTA4 is the best. In my opinion this feels like a guy who not only wanted to speculate in which version of GTA4 that is the best, but also to talk down on PS3.

He also says that PS2 hindered GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas. Altho i respect his opinion on this, what does this have to do with GTA4? Is he trying to draw a line here to compare stuff? If so, what is he trying to compare? If Rockstar wanted they could improve the PC and Xbox 1 versions alot, its not the PS2's fault to put it that way. Rockstar worked with what the PS2 hardware was able to do. These PS2 GTA comments feels more like an attempt to take a punch at Playstation fans instead of trying to speculate that GTA4 might be better for the Xbox 360 compared to the PS3.

He also says:

"So which version of GTAIV is superior? Well as of now the evidence points to the Xbox 360 version. And it is certainly a mountain of strong, undeniable evidence."

We havnt seen anything from the PS3 verison of GTA4 (EDIT: I just remembered that some magazine showed some screens from the PS3 version, but they looked identical to the other screenshots we've seen, atleast from what i can remember) so we have no idea if its identical to the 360 version or not. The things he points out here are speculations and to some extend reasoning, like the 360 is easier to develope for, which is true, therefor it can possibly look better than the PS3 version, but we dont have any evidence for it.

The only way that we know that the 360 version is superior is due to the downloadable content. Since the 360 version gets more content its superior in that way, but about the main game itself we have no idea how they really compare to eachother. As the guy who wrote the article also points out, Rockstar has said that both the 360 and PS3 version looks identical.

As said, i think Rockstar made a good job with the GTA games for PS2 and i'm sure they can do a good job with PS3 as well. Its not that long until GTA4 hits the stores so we'll have the answer soon anyway :)

[Trashcat]

I disagree. And it seems like i said earlier you get people praising the console they own, rather than one they don't (I read some of your past posts and you said you don't own a PS3), and lets be honest its quite natural to feel this way, as you will inevitably be quite biased, i am not a fanboy, but even i am minutely biased towards the 360 as it has/had more variety of games. But i'm equally as happy with my PS3 too.
I didn't say ps3 sucks or ps3 games suck, I said 360 is more powerful, not because I hate ps3 but because I know something about hardware. In my opinion ps3 has a horrible CPU that was never meant to be used in a personal computer or a game console, working with Cell steals developer's time and money and I blame sony. I guess there is no going back now that ps3 is out I only wish sony would learn the lesson and make hardware that developers want next time, if there will be a next time for sony.

But tell me this how much of a chance did you really give the PS3? Or is it just because you had a first impression or whatever then just decided to criticise it?
Im well aware what games are available on the ps3 and none of them made me want to give my money to sony yet, it might change this year if something decent comes out and the price drops below 300euro.

Oh and by the way any gamer would see this as bad news, if it was true, only the ignorant ones who hold such a grudge against another platform would see it as good news.
Ok so you have 2 platforms, one slightly more powerful than the other, and a game that is slightly better on the more powerful platform whats bad about it? If one game like FIFA is released on Wii, ps3 and 360 would you like all 3 versions look like the Wii's? I say use every system to its full potential, I don't see any reason to leave the 360 version same as the ps3 version if the 360 can do more.

[rezine39]

Typical TrashCat, just producing trash post as usual. Tell me when an Xbox360 game beats Uncharted and KZ2 in terms if graphics.

[whoisandy]

who cares as long as we can all enjoy the game...

[cory149]

So long as GTA4 isn't like 10 disks on the 360, I'll be happy with the 360 version (I have to ask, who in their right minds wants to stop in the middle of driving somewhere to switch disks to get into another neighborhood?)

Tell me when an Xbox360 game beats Uncharted and KZ2 in terms if graphics.
Not going to happen, why sell gold when people will pay for junk that imitates gold? (aka: devs don't seem to have any real reason to trump anything, maybe next year or something like that though) :D

[panzival]

Actually it is good news since 360 is the more powerful hardware, if 360 version does end up being better upon release it means Rockstar did use both systems to the max. The difference won't be huge though, ps3 will probably have worse textures and no AA.


I didn't say ps3 sucks or ps3 games suck, I said 360 is more powerful, not because I hate ps3 but because I know something about hardware. In my opinion ps3 has a horrible CPU that was never meant to be used in a personal computer or a game console, working with Cell steals developer's time and money and I blame sony. I guess there is no going back now that ps3 is out I only wish sony would learn the lesson and make hardware that developers want next time, if there will be a next time for sony.

Im well aware what games are available on the ps3 and none of them made me want to give my money to sony yet, it might change this year if something decent comes out and the price drops below 300euro.

Ok so you have 2 platforms, one slightly more powerful than the other, and a game that is slightly better on the more powerful platform whats bad about it? If one game like FIFA is released on Wii, ps3 and 360 would you like all 3 versions look like the Wii's? I say use every system to its full potential, I don't see any reason to leave the 360 version same as the ps3 version if the 360 can do more.


LOL. That's like saying the DS is more powerful then the PSP. The xbox has always held the PS3. Please tell me ONE xbox exclusive that can compare to Uncharted, GT5, or R&C.

[DerekD1982]

just wait for the game to come out. i dont understand why everyone starts a fight over which is better when none of you have seen it LMAO:rolleyes:

[Mikeyy]

What a joke, the writer of the article, has NOT played GTA4 for either console, he is just guessing. With weak reasons at that.

Just because it takes LONGER to program for cell, shouldnt mean the quality is worse.

It really only depends on the developer. I doubt R* will disapoint Playstation fans.

I also firmly believe PS3 WILL get DLC, as Xbox 360s deal specifically says they only get 2 Exclusive episodes. Whos to say there are 4 episodes and both ps3 and 360 get the other 2 episodes.

You never know.

Anyway, absolute shame on everybody that takes these loser nobody articles and take them as fact. Freaking use brains guys.

[n0rthstar]

Im pretty sure fanboys of both consoles will be happy, if you like this type of game that is, and as long as there isnt any real framerate issues on either.

Its ludicrous how fanboys from both sides get into heated arguments over this stuff... be happy with what you have and be glad you get mostly the same good games on both consoles, with small but negligable differences that arent worth arguing over.

[msanchez]

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I also firmly believe PS3 WILL get DLC, as Xbox 360s deal specifically says they only get 2 Exclusive episodes. Whos to say there are 4 episodes and both ps3 and 360 get the other 2 episodes.

You never know.
...

I was thinking the exact same thing the other day when I was reading about Soul Caliber IV. You'll get Darth Vader in one platform and Yoda in the other, before that it was Link, Heihachi, and Spawn. It's a nice way to get people with more money than brains to buy the game a few times.

[Evolution]

This is one of these 2+2=5 articles with absolutely no substance.

That certainly isnt what I have been told. Of course it will all come down to personal choice in the end and the 360 does have the extra DLC but as the 2 games stand I have been told that the PS3 version is slightly (only slighty mind) better than the 360 version as a stand alone game.

And anybody who has seen me post in the past knows that I am certainly no lover of the PS3. :D

[XxBigP123xX]

Can wait for the game. I LOVE GTA!!!! omg... lol 360 just makes it that much sw33ter. I remember the old XBOX vs PS2 comparison for GTA SA, Vice, and GTA3. XBOX had sw33ter graphix.
Yeah and the crappy remote ruined it:rolleyes:

[kidman64]

i hope it'll be better on 360 just to make ps3 fanboys angry - they seem like the worst kind, and i'd love to see them butthurt. Real gamers won't complain about few rough edges, since they're irrelevant in the long run.

[ok123]

A small corrrection in my previous post, i said we havnt seen anything from the PS3 version of GTA4, but i just remembered that there was a magazine that had some screenshots they claimed were from the PS3 version. They looked pretty identical to the other screenshots we've seen as far as i remember.

[GazP]

No one has seen either version, it's just pure speculation hardly news :rolleyes:

[Skyline34]

Someone just wanting to start a bloody Flame-fest again, it's no-where near completion, just an avid Xboy trying to start trouble!

[funnybutrandom]

yeah the same as cod4 and other multi platform games look better on the 360, not, nearly all games ported over consoles will look identical (with minor changes) unless you look at the turok screenshots

[sliggo]

Im sure they will be identical, except for the achievements and custom soundtracks are more appealing.

[sactown-sav]

LOL. That's like saying the DS is more powerful then the PSP. The xbox has always held the PS3. Please tell me ONE xbox exclusive that can compare to Uncharted, GT5, or R&C.

WOW you are def. a tard. GoW kills all those games with gfx and gameplay. Period.

Now the real way is to compare games that are on both systems, the orange box, madden 08, Assasins creed, and just about every game that has come out for both systems (except burnout) look and PLAY better on the 360.

I would not be suprised if the 360 version did look better, just like every other multi-platform game we have to compare with...

[kneehighspy]

& its nothing to do with developers its the machine so as long as the game is made the same for both consoles then rest assure the PS3 version will be the superior one & xbox360 will end up been the dull version as usual this is because the PS3 is much better HDMI machine. (sharper & clearer picture for games & movies). imho a well made HDMI system by Sony.

i own both consoles & if you dont believe what i just said then go try the same game on both systems. ;)

plz dont cry trueth hurts i know. :(




personally, i own both consoles and the wii. that being said, why would an individual purchase the same title on both systems?

with that being said, say you 'obtain a copy' on the 360, why would you purchase the same title on ps3?

with that being said, i have it on 360 and will not purchase it on ps3, it wasn't worth 'evaluating' on 360, so i know it wasn't worth purchase on ps3.

perhaps you 'obtained it' on 360, and then rented it on ps3 to compare the two? yeah, that's it.


anyhoo, the developer said both titles looked the same, and the 360 version will work without a hard drive. so perhaps that means that the ps3 version will take a 3 gig install, don't know, i won't be purchasing this title anyway.

this is just another flamebait thread made to insight another 'war', and it's working just as intended. this seems to be maxconsoles only way to ensure traffic for the ads and sponsors to guarantee an income, just from the users coming back to flame each other.

[panzival]

WOW you are def. a tard. GoW kills all those games with gfx and gameplay. Period.

Now the real way is to compare games that are on both systems, the orange box, madden 08, Assasins creed, and just about every game that has come out for both systems (except burnout) look and PLAY better on the 360.

I would not be suprised if the 360 version did look better, just like every other multi-platform game we have to compare with...

I guess you believe that GoW has better graphics then UT3 also, right?

[sactown-sav]

I guess you believe that GoW has better graphics then UT3 also, right?

it took sony a year to come up with a game even worthy to compare gfx (not even close gameplay). BUT im sure that will also look better on 360 when it hits, just like almost every other mulit-platform game out there...

[msanchez]

it took sony a year to come up with a game even worthy to compare gfx (not even close gameplay). BUT im sure that will also look better on 360 when it hits, just like almost every other mulit-platform game out there...

Wasn't gears of wars released more or less a year after the 360 launched? if you take into consideration how "difficult" the ps3 is to code on, and how easy it is on the 360, then that doesn't look that bad at all for the ps3. Though this game will probably look better on the 360, the differences are getting smaller between ports of 360 and ps3 games. I reckon pretty soon the differences will be insignificant, or who knows maybe a new trend might be set.

All I know is your better of appreciating your games for the fun they provide, and not because they look better than someone else's.

[grapeape]

Why does anyone really care, just like Assassins Creed, Dirt, CoD4 and every other game that has been compared the differences are at most going to be little nitpicky crap that only the fanboys on either side would notice unless it was pointed out. Just buy the game (if its a genre you like) and enjoy it on your console of choice and dont worry if the far wall on the right side of the castle shows a slightly better texture if you tilt your head and squint at it the right way.

[Talidan]

An interesting read. Unfortunately its filled with speculation, and houses some quite clear pro-360 comments which arent much to do with GTAIV on both consoles, but 360 vs PS3 overall.

[mikescool]

this is an opinion piece. In my opinion, you guys are all fucking morons and deserve to die.

[Ztype]

Oh god who cares, play the game on whatever system and shut the **** up

[snipersnake]

You're funny Trashcat. We're talking about a 3rd party game. Look at games like Uncharted, Ratchet, RFOM, and MS and shut your big fanboy ass.

fixed, since he was talking from it.

[DEDDOA]

You're funny Trashcat. We're talking about a 3rd party game. Look at games like Uncharted, Ratchet, RFOM, and MS and shut your big fanboy mouth.

Word of warning, never use RFOM as a comparisson of quality as it makes the rest of the statement seem unlilkey even though it's true (while I don't think Uncharted is that prett ymaybe cut down far cry level pretty,, it's textures are decent). If RFOM had been realeased on the PS2 or Xbox it would have been impressive, on the PS3 it looked like a mildly tarted up PS2 emulated game.

On subject tho if either have any graphical differences I would be suprised as to be honest this game included, no GTA has ever pushed the system it was on unless it was poorly programmed (see PC versions). I'm genuinely suprised not to see a Wii version as well as it would hardly be a stretch, the lower res textures they could use would likley help fitting it onto a dvd5.