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During a recent interview, Sony's Jack Tretton has given one main reason as to why consumers should buy the PS3 - it is future proof. Tretton looked back to the life cycle of the PS1 and the longevity of the PS2 and thinks history will repeat itself again with the PS3. Tretton remarked they are building, one consumer at a time and in the long run things will pay off for Sony despite the short-term sacrafices involved. Moreover Tretton revealed Sony is passing on all its development tips to third party publishers (physically attending their studios and going hand-in-hand) which will bear fruit in the near future so the pattern of PS3 games being delayed by a few weeks in comparison to the 360 should come to a halt.
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<center><i>Tretton revealed that Sony are giving increased support to third party publishers and are literally working hand-in-hand with them.</i></center></a>
"The original PlayStation lasted 10 years -- a tremendous innovation when other platforms died and were all but forgotten," Tretton told us in a recent interview. "The same thing is going on with the PS2, and I think that will be the case with the PS3."
He went on to say, "I don't think we expected nor we need to capture the lifecycle of the PS3 in the first nine months. We want to build evangelists, one consumer at a time, and it involves sacrificing in the short term before paying off in the long term."
Regarding the fact that some PS3 games often release weeks after their Xbox 360 counterparts, Tretton said, "We're taking all our development findings and investments and passing them onto the third-party development community.
"We are physically going to studios and working with them hand-in-hand. You will start to see that bear fruit in the near future."
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thefunkhunter
09-21-2007, 09:36 PM
ok so we should buy the ps3 because the ps2 and ps one were dominated the other consoles and had the most longevity. Well remember nintendo and sega use to dominate back in the day but eventually a better company, "sony" took over. It looks like its time for sony to pass the torch to microsoft.
burnblaze
09-21-2007, 09:38 PM
It's no surprise that devs are finding it easier to release for X360 first... MS are doing exactly what they did in the business market - eliminating the competition through making their product the easiest to use and code for (don't go off on me Mac boys - I love the macs but be honest wheres the ease of building your own?).
Sony are beginning to realise that they are in a war of attrition and are trying to generate interest to keep the franchise afloat.....
Look at the games - all out on the 360 first and delayed on PS3, Home - Delayed, MGS4 - Delayed, LBP - Delayed, DiRT - Delayed, Lair - rubbish, Dualshock 3 - nov in US spring for EU. Warhawk is very nice but it isn't a patch on Halo 3 - trust me.....
I hate to say it but 360 got there first and because the 360 is pretty much PC hardware it's easier to develop for and a bonus is the big guns can hire/borrow coders from the PC development side.
Sony should get their act together because you cannot drop the ball for one second in this game and despite the 360's poor reputation for hardware failure Sony keep scoring own goals by not being realistic.
It will end up being a case of Sony telling the world the emperor is wearing new clothes but the masses knowing that he's got them but the tailor is still working on them..... and looking at the competition.
Oh and at the moment Live kicks the crap out of anything else out there....something Sony should have worked on after the success of the PS2.
pyros
09-21-2007, 09:39 PM
I truly believe that the PS3 will have an excellent long run. Not all good things happen all at once, and if it did, I wouldn't really expect anything in the future. I remember when the 360 was bashed at the beginning by many and now look how far it has come, with a good line up of games supplied and being produced. When Sony starts to get on track with more good games for the PS3 then it will be an even better investment. Heck if Microsoft ends up fixing the overheating problem with sustainable hardware then it will even be a better generation in gaming having three consoles. The better the variety, the better the gaming.
miserabillis
09-21-2007, 09:45 PM
look... Microsoft has Sold 10-11 mill and Nintendo around 11-12 and nintendo has been around for 1 year and Microsoft for 2 and with those sales they and there fanboys say we have won..look at sony roughly one year and sold 4 million and more and ppl say its expensive and blah blah...look at the whole picure together and youll see sony is winning and when it says 100-200$ cut the dam will explode xD
roguetel
09-21-2007, 09:49 PM
future proof?
HEHEHE you know you in big trouble when the suits have to step up and say:
we're future proof!
The only thing they prove is that ps3 gamers will have to wait for the future to play last year's games.
MadonnaProject
09-21-2007, 10:07 PM
future proof or not. with the price through the roof. and games which play for 5 hours at 60 bucks. not to mention in game downloads like cars and weapons, not to mention minor updates coating anywhere from 3 - 8 bucks each. i think sony is in for a horrible run.
oh. and microsoft might have had a lot of stumbling blocks recently but you have to admit. their game lineup is SIMPLY STELLAR. you think they had a good year in 2006? and "analysts" said they would not have many big name games for the 360 in 2007. well look at the console now. LOADS of AAA titles. and loads to come still.
not to mention halo 3, which lives upto EACH AND EVERY BIT of the hype surrounding it. i know sonyboinks will jump me for this. and it sounds tired. but believe me, just take my word for it. yes, its REALLY THAT good.
miserabillis
09-21-2007, 10:12 PM
sony==>FF13..Killzone2..MGS4..GT5
XBOX==>HAlO 3..
NINTENDO ==>POKEMON ..GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!!
hurtween
09-21-2007, 10:26 PM
Atari Jaguar was 'future proof'.
Panasonic 3DO was 'future proof'.
Sega CD was 'future proof'.
Sega Dreamcast was 'future proof'.
see what i'm getting at here??
11111
09-21-2007, 10:30 PM
i also do believe that in the long run the ps3 will do well. if they are able to make another price drop this holiday season then keep making price drops consistently in the coming years they should be fine imo.
danight
09-21-2007, 10:31 PM
Future proof... i like jack but this sounds like crap phil harrison would have said. Come on jacko you can do better than this :)
I mean future proof. In todays world of tech there is no such thing. Todays tec is tomorrows history lesson. Look at how pc`s advance in 2 years time.
Facts are simple facts. Gamers want games and the ps3 has not delivered for one reason or another. Sales suck because the price because sony made a bad call forcing blu-ray on the consumer.
Since 3rd party devs are jumping ship and sony cant control what gets released. they need to focus on something they can control and thats price. Fix the price and people will buy it. But at 16% of the market devs arent gonna do anything special for the ps3 when the average game sold is lucky for devs to even break even on.
Lets look at sales and where we are. In so the wii has around 12 million and the xbox 360 has around 11 million and the ps3 has around 4 million. So the wii if it doesnt slow down will have around 24 million by this time next year while the x-box 360 will probably be around 16 -17 million and the ps3 will still be fighting to break the 10 million mark with around 8-9 million. Thats if we look at recent numbers. Thats not saying Nintendo and Microsoft don't take a price cut before the holidays that would send sales threw the roof.
Sony needs a version of the ps3 out that is a direct price of either equal or less than the prem or pro version of the xbox 360 (not the elite thats still high priced). If sony could get a ps3 out thats not considered to be over priced and is considered to be affordable people will jump. The more people who jump the more game devs will gain faith back. But 08 is critical. If the ps3 has a bad holiday season its gonna be ruff since game devs will know after xmas sales people dont buy new systems. But if we see a 300 dollar version of the ps3, i think we will see sony grabbing some sales back and stealing them both from the wii and xbox 360.
There is wii60 owners who want a ps3 bad! They just dont see any reason to pay 500-600 dollars for it when the xbox 360 has way better line up of games and a better online service. get the price down and people will jump like they did when sony cut the 100 dollars off the 60 gig version. Sony needs to bite the bullet and suck it up and get back in this. They need probably around 25% market % to get devs back.
end3rbr0
09-21-2007, 10:34 PM
future proof or not. with the price through the roof. and games which play for 5 hours at 60 bucks. not to mention in game downloads like cars and weapons, not to mention minor updates coating anywhere from 3 - 8 bucks each. i think sony is in for a horrible run.
oh. and microsoft might have had a lot of stumbling blocks recently but you have to admit. their game lineup is SIMPLY STELLAR. you think they had a good year in 2006? and "analysts" said they would not have many big name games for the 360 in 2007. well look at the console now. LOADS of AAA titles. and loads to come still.
not to mention halo 3, which lives upto EACH AND EVERY BIT of the hype surrounding it. i know sonyboinks will jump me for this. and it sounds tired. but believe me, just take my word for it. yes, its REALLY THAT good.
Yo....all I have to say on Halo 3 is that it better be 10 times better than the beta.......cause that **** looked like Halo 2.5 and played like it to. With all the amazing shooters coming for both systems and currently on some of them(bioshock)I think it's quite possible for Halo 3 to fade fairly quickly in the ensuing onslaught of AAA shooters. Just my opinion. But Call of Duty 4, Haze, timeshift, unreal tournament 3, Kane & lynch, army of two, battlefield, quake wars, turok, soldier of fortune, bioshock, blacksite, medal of honor and turning point fall of liberty.....I'm sorry, but thats way more competition than Halo 2 ever had back in it's day. So now Halo 3 is supposed to stay king of console fps with it's 5 year old gameplay when it's possible that a couple of those titles reward gamers with cross-platform playability? Come on.....it just wasn't that good.
end3rbr0
09-21-2007, 11:13 PM
Atari Jaguar was 'future proof'.
Panasonic 3DO was 'future proof'.
Sega CD was 'future proof'.
Sega Dreamcast was 'future proof'.
see what i'm getting at here??
Yeah.....find me the quotes where any of those games manufacturers said any of those consoles were "future proof" smart guy.
Atari never had a chance, 3DO was ahead of it's time and couldn't get 3rd party support. Same could be said for the Sega CD, ahead of it's time....even though it wasn't actually a console but an add-on for a console. The Dreamcast got hacked to death because it was Windows based, which consequently made it a HUGE platform for Homebrew and Emulation. PS3 hasn't fallen into any of those categories(yet?)and I doubt it ever will. PS3 sells more consoles worldwide each month than the 360 does and is on track to sell more consoles by the end of it's second year than the 360 will have done in 3.
end3rbr0
09-21-2007, 11:19 PM
ok so we should buy the ps3 because the ps2 and ps one were dominated the other consoles and had the most longevity. Well remember nintendo and sega use to dominate back in the day but eventually a better company, "sony" took over. It looks like its time for sony to pass the torch to microsoft.
Hahahaha, and if the torch is getting passed to anyone it's Nintendo......Sony isn't the only company getting it's ass kicked right now. Microsoft can't compete with Wii's and DS sales numbers either son.....Not by a long shot. Wake up and smell the coffWii. :)
Mikeyy
09-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Atari Jaguar was 'future proof'.
Panasonic 3DO was 'future proof'.
Sega CD was 'future proof'.
Sega Dreamcast was 'future proof'.
see what i'm getting at here??
Way to make up stuff, anyway the difference is Clear.
Sony acually Came through on their claims. PS1 and PS2 where in Fact, future proof.
I just deal in Facts folks. all the numbers, past and present say that Sony has the upper hand, In the long run.
The "word" was before the 360 even launched everybody was like "the 360 is supposed to win this round" People said that, based on absolutly nothing.. They just say it.
Fast forward to today, PS3 outsells world wide and People still chant this 360 Hymn. What excuse do you have for that? Do you know the PS3 is going to break 360s first year record?
Oh and the PS3 is only $50 more than the 360 Elite, that $50 you save on xbox imediatly goes to Paying for Live. In the long run 5+ years from now, your 360 is a money sink and the PS3 is Efficient.
danight
09-22-2007, 01:03 AM
hummm you all must not have seen last weeks sales where the ps3 only outsold the GBA and gamecube. Everything outsold it bad. You can sing oh the ps3 is selling as good as the 360 did but in reality it doesnt matter because the xbox 360 controls a demanding lead around 40% while the ps3 has 16% market. There is no way to spin 16 % and make it sound like a good number.
X-box 360 is have great game after great game coming out and sales are selling almost as much as the wii. There is no reason to think that will decline anytime soon with the game line up coming out. The wii is still selling out world wide because its so cheap and lets not forget you can buy a wii and a x-box 360 still for the price of the ps3.
But 3rd party devs look at what percent each platform holds and at 16% and going backwards its not looking good for the ps3.
mcmanic
09-22-2007, 01:17 AM
LOL, what an idiot, who wants a future proof console, nothing is future proof . Cannot wait for xbox720 or whatever in 3 years time (at the most). We will see "how future proof" the PS3 then shall we, lol, and in the meantime i shall enjoy games now rather than wait as AKA sony people have having to do with a dearer console thats no better GAMING wise
busboy33
09-22-2007, 01:22 AM
The reason PS1 lasted so long, and the PS2 is still going strong, is becaue there were/are so damn many of them around the world. How many ps2s sold? 120 million plus? Developers will make games if they think they can sell them and make a profit, and thats based on the installed base.
If every home in the US had an Atari 2600 sitting next to the television right now we'd still be getting carts manufactured for it. On the other side, if I invent the greatest piece of gaming technology in the world, and only 2 people buy it, then nobody's going to program games for it, whether it's future proof or not.
Devil Dan
09-22-2007, 01:53 AM
OK then. I'll buy one in the future, when there are games for it that I want to play (more than 3). Untill then it's 360 for me. (once it gets back from repairs that is)
end3rbr0
09-22-2007, 02:11 AM
hummm you all must not have seen last weeks sales where the ps3 only outsold the GBA and gamecube. Everything outsold it bad. You can sing oh the ps3 is selling as good as the 360 did but in reality it doesnt matter because the xbox 360 controls a demanding lead around 40% while the ps3 has 16% market. There is no way to spin 16 % and make it sound like a good number.
X-box 360 is have great game after great game coming out and sales are selling almost as much as the wii. There is no reason to think that will decline anytime soon with the game line up coming out. The wii is still selling out world wide because its so cheap and lets not forget you can buy a wii and a x-box 360 still for the price of the ps3.
But 3rd party devs look at what percent each platform holds and at 16% and going backwards its not looking good for the ps3.
I was speaking of WORLD-WIDE sales not just here in the states. In japan the 360 doesn't even outsell the Gamecube or GBA so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. With as many Playstation brand consoles as Sony puts out(PS2,PS3,PSP)it doesn't matter what Microsoft or Nintendo do at this point unless Sony just outright quits making video games, because 120 mil PS2, 25 mil PSP, and 5 mil PS3's conquers any installed user base for every other console combined. Everyone forgets how rocky the 360 launch was(and continues to be because of inferior manufacturing)because of delayed release dates, small game library and high price compared to the then, current gen consoles. Not until PS3 price was announced and the console finally released did the 360's price point make it an attractive offer(not to mention the mega hit Gears of War). Who wanted to spend 3 or 4 hundred dollars on a system that broke down after you bought it that first year? Answer: Not as many people as there are buying PS3's in it's first year. The PS3 price will continue to fall(as will the 360's, I have no doubt)and will become more and more attractive to past PS2 gamers who are no doubt, simply waiting for the fun they experienced on PS2 to shine it's bright lights on the PS3. Sony will take the lead again(as they never really lost it)soon enough. All Microsoft and Nintendo are doing is eating as much pie as possible until big ole' Sony decides he's hungry again
Adopted
09-22-2007, 02:40 AM
Oh so if it's future proof, you wont mind if I buy one in the future. Thanks for understanding my finicial situation Sony!
Banfro
09-22-2007, 02:48 AM
ok so we should buy the ps3 because the ps2 and ps one were dominated the other consoles and had the most longevity. Well remember nintendo and sega use to dominate back in the day but eventually a better company, "sony" took over. It looks like its time for sony to pass the torch to microsoft.
agree,
:cool:
John Crichton
09-22-2007, 03:45 AM
During a recent interview, Sony's Jack Tretton has given one main reason as to why consumers should buy the PS3 - it is future proof
How desperate is this? People bought ps1 and ps2 not because Sony said they should do. I hated this bullshit from the day Kutaragi said people want a ps3 so badly that they get a second job. my time as a sony fan was counted then.
So what means future proof? That's bullshit because even pcs aren't future proof, you can change some parts but some day you have to get a completley new one. Nothing is future proof.
n0rthstar
09-22-2007, 04:13 AM
As of right now Sony is a bit of a flop, theres very little to recommend people go out and buy it other than the Blu-Ray capabilities of the machine, and thats only to people who own the equipment to actually take advantage of HD.
Everyone pretty much knows PS3 will survive, theres too many Sony fans living off the past glories/success of PS1/PS2, but...
PS3 will take a long long time to build up a decent userbase like Xbox and Wii already have, by the time it gets to the heights the latter two have there will be new consoles coming out, so that 'futureproof' goes out of the window as it will have been surpassed.
I dont think the Blu-Ray player is making PS3 'futureproof' anytime soon, not until HD becomes the standard... maybe in 10 years time.
I guarantee the next PS console (if there is one) WILL fail completely because they shot themselves in the foot by getting to the party too late.
atmancloud
09-22-2007, 04:14 AM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
.... I really hate this thread why on earth r u people getting all worked up about it xbox720????????? ya right dont u see M$ is trying to control u all, first crappy VISTA! then this ZUNe thing, xbox360 1 big reason i got a ps3 was it has a 3 cell cpu's and u can run LUNIX in it(it will get better linux community will get a hold of it soon rsx gpu) but back to the point M$ will go down just like VISTA AND THE THING CALLED THE ZUNE-oh and Xcrap (rip) rrod.............................................. .........
..................by
the way i dont care much about sony just want to start talking S#$t lol..... :eek:
gangley
09-22-2007, 05:39 AM
That pic of L33T_HaX0rZ kissing Jerzymob is hilarious:D
vingadorjr
09-22-2007, 06:09 AM
Well... im sick of hearing this 10 years machine longevity crap strategy and **** excuse. This Treton guy should be replaced or retired, he goes with this thing since the PS3 debut, and do you know what happen? nothing, the response was the oppose, and the console sold less. I think its fair that if i buy my console now, than i want good games now, not in 10 years or the like, this is crap excuses. Sony, please please please, retire this man for the love of god!
mssv19
09-22-2007, 06:37 AM
agree,
:cool:
Then Microsoft will rule the pc & console world with BSOD & RROD :p
vingadorjr
09-22-2007, 07:51 AM
Just a little question: What console have the most high price?
A) A U$ 100,00 cheaper (on all aspects) one that broke after some months of use and charges for every step you give on their network interface.
B) A U$ 100,00 higher console that surely, at least, will have a lifespan of 5 years minimum without broke on you and is a BR-Player and network free of charge too.
Theres no argument for this. Those who find a single one, are a MS dork, a dead monkey or a brainwashed zombie (HAAA....LO...3...PLE...A...SE). MS do what no one can, sell trash, and everyday i get more and more impressed not with their games lineup, but with the stupidity of their US consumers that buy their piece of trash that last just a few months, and the real problem with this people is that they still come complaining (maybe they was programed by MS to do so with subliminar messages on they games or something) about the PS3 high priced console.
Sony have its problems too, but they will surely improve, but i dont think that MS will change their maketing way of "buy cheap components, put then on their console and sell it high priced" (the Elite are only U$ 50 less than PS3 and still have cheap components that brokes (3 lights and all)) without loosing a very considerably amount of money on their profit, and if they still have those zombies on their side, they will continue to make high profits and to sell trash consoles. This is the way MS do business since the first windows edition, notice that they never released any final windows edition, they only release bugy after bugy editions.
For those MS fanboys, here comes a piece of advice:
Please, think, think, think, think, about what you are doing, defending, debating and spending, cause maybe you was all brainwashed, cause this really happens, its not a joke.
mcmanic
09-22-2007, 09:05 AM
..........
stop whinging and go and play a blu-ray movie or something, damm PS3 fanboys trying to justify their blu-ray player because atm thats all it is becasue it has some serious flaws gaming wise, lol,
MaTiAz
09-22-2007, 10:41 AM
Fast forward to today, PS3 outsells world wide and People still chant this 360 Hymn. What excuse do you have for that? Do you know the PS3 is going to break 360s first year record?
What the **** are you on? PS3 isn't outselling anything, especially worldwide.
EliteStance
09-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Then Microsoft will rule the pc & console world with BSOD & RROD :p
Can you imagine if they got into cars, cookers, fridges, etc...
Imagine the chaos when they regularly fail!
sirxlaughs
09-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Just a little question: What console have the most high price?
A) A U$ 100,00 cheaper (on all aspects) one that broke after some months of use and charges for every step you give on their network interface.
B) A U$ 100,00 higher console that surely, at least, will have a lifespan of 5 years minimum without broke on you and is a BR-Player and network free of charge too.
Theres no argument for this. Those who find a single one, are a MS dork, a dead monkey or a brainwashed zombie (HAAA....LO...3...PLE...A...SE). MS do what no one can, sell trash, and everyday i get more and more impressed not with their games lineup, but with the stupidity of their US consumers that buy their piece of trash that last just a few months, and the real problem with this people is that they still come complaining (maybe they was programed by MS to do so with subliminar messages on they games or something) about the PS3 high priced console.
Sony have its problems too, but they will surely improve, but i dont think that MS will change their maketing way of "buy cheap components, put then on their console and sell it high priced" (the Elite are only U$ 50 less than PS3 and still have cheap components that brokes (3 lights and all)) without loosing a very considerably amount of money on their profit, and if they still have those zombies on their side, they will continue to make high profits and to sell trash consoles. This is the way MS do business since the first windows edition, notice that they never released any final windows edition, they only release bugy after bugy editions.
For those MS fanboys, here comes a piece of advice:
Please, think, think, think, think, about what you are doing, defending, debating and spending, cause maybe you was all brainwashed, cause this really happens, its not a joke.
It seems you are the one to have been brainwashed. I've had my 360 for over a year w/o a single problem. My brother got his a few months ago w/o a single problem. This "longetivity" arguement of Sony is ridiculous. If the PS3 will win out in the long run, then that's when I'll buy one. By the time the PS3 is actually worth buying, it'll be half the price and have games worth playing. Until then, I'll save my money and bide my time. I am a supporter of video games, not brands, platforms, etc. I don't care who makes it, as long as it's good. The PS3 still has a way to go. Technology is not like realestate. It's not an "investment" that grows with time. I spend $600, and when I actually get some use out of it, it would've cost me less.
cokemusic1
09-22-2007, 12:58 PM
What the **** are you on? PS3 isn't outselling anything, especially worldwide.
PS3 is actually outselling XBOX 360 in japan, by far.
I could never foresee a future with the XBOX 360 dominating the next gen market it's pretty much going to repeat XBOX's performance.
The Wii sells on it's innovation and mass apeal , the PS3 sells on it's immense power and Blu-Ray player capabilities.
The HD-DVD player in the 360 will be useless when HD-DVD looses the format war to Blu-Ray , Apart from Halo 3 I can't really see anything in the XBOX 360.
Microsoft never have and owned the console market and probably won't do so for the next 8 years.
grapeape
09-22-2007, 01:58 PM
I was speaking of WORLD-WIDE sales not just here in the states. In japan the 360 doesn't even outsell the Gamecube or GBA so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. With as many Playstation brand consoles as Sony puts out(PS2,PS3,PSP)it doesn't matter what Microsoft or Nintendo do at this point unless Sony just outright quits making video games, because 120 mil PS2, 25 mil PSP, and 5 mil PS3's conquers any installed user base for every other console combined. Everyone forgets how rocky the 360 launch was(and continues to be because of inferior manufacturing)because of delayed release dates, small game library and high price compared to the then, current gen consoles. Not until PS3 price was announced and the console finally released did the 360's price point make it an attractive offer(not to mention the mega hit Gears of War). Who wanted to spend 3 or 4 hundred dollars on a system that broke down after you bought it that first year? Answer: Not as many people as there are buying PS3's in it's first year. The PS3 price will continue to fall(as will the 360's, I have no doubt)and will become more and more attractive to past PS2 gamers who are no doubt, simply waiting for the fun they experienced on PS2 to shine it's bright lights on the PS3. Sony will take the lead again(as they never really lost it)soon enough. All Microsoft and Nintendo are doing is eating as much pie as possible until big ole' Sony decides he's hungry again
Wanna know where the PS3 is outselling the 360?...Japan, Germany, Spain and Denmark thats it....I dont see that as the whole world. Even more alarming is the rate that the ps3 is winning in those countries, other than japan the biggest sales gap last month for instance was in Germany and that was less than 500 consoles. Compare that to the gap in other european countries like the UK where the 360 is beating the PS3 by a 2:1 margin regularly...last month the gap was 6,000 consoles, or France where the cap is nearly 3:1.
As far as the "rosey" outlook for the PS3 in Japan coming in next to last just makes it another looser...its selling behind the PSP, DS, Wii and PS2, in fact in every country where its "winning" its still selling behind the PS2. When you have to exaggerate your posts to make your point (btw the 360 does consistantly outsell the GBA and Gamecube) it just shows how weak the argument really is.
armagedalbeebop
09-23-2007, 10:58 AM
WOW , look @ that, two gay monkeys kissing
^^
this reply is so useful as your f0cking fanboyism bullshit (talking about both sides)
busboy33
09-23-2007, 07:02 PM
Just a little question: What console have the most high price?
A) A U$ 100,00 cheaper (on all aspects) one that broke after some months of use and charges for every step you give on their network interface.
B) A U$ 100,00 higher console that surely, at least, will have a lifespan of 5 years minimum without broke on you and is a BR-Player and network free of charge too.
Theres no argument for this. Those who find a single one, are a MS dork, a dead monkey or a brainwashed zombie . . .
True, there is no argument for what you said, but since what you said has no relation to either the 360 or PS3, it doesn't have a whole lot to do woth the discussion.
Let me use your stellar analogy skills back at you:
Which of these costs more:
a) a $1000 machine that prints money, or
b) a $1000 machine that gives you herpes, causing you to go to the doctor and spend more money?
No argument possible, and I've proved that Microsoft is the greatest. Ha ha.
That's a silly analogy to make a point. You are comparing two sets of criteria that are not the same: you listed for the 360 cheap parts, hardware failing, and charging for every single aspect of the network. For PS3 you listed "higher" console (???), guaranteed minimum 5 year life span, Blu-ray and free network.
Cheap parts vs. "higher" parts -- nice assumption. Anything to back that up? If the 360 RRoD is caused by overheating, then that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the parts.
Hardware failing doesn't cost the consumer a penny -- it's repaired or replaced for free.
XBL doesn't charge you for anything but multiplayer. Every other aspect is completely free.
PS3 has "minimum" 5 year life span without breaking -- your crystal ball telling you that? So NO PS3s have broken yet, and they cannot for another 4 years? Since Sony has said the hardware failure rate is "low" as opposed to "nonexistent", you're flat wrong since some have already broke, and we're only a year in. Even if none had failed yet, how could you assume they can't break for at least 5 years? That's one of the sillier fanboy ideas I've seen, and I include Jerztwits comments.
So yes, if we assume your flat lies, exagerations, misstatements, and blind faith, you make a compelling point.
Black RL
09-24-2007, 06:56 AM
Consoles aren't future proof (Wii, PS3, 360), just look to the declarations EPIC made about Unreal Tournment 3.....
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=21047
daspazz
09-24-2007, 10:39 AM
Atari Jaguar was 'future proof'.
Panasonic 3DO was 'future proof'.
Sega CD was 'future proof'.
Sega Dreamcast was 'future proof'.
see what i'm getting at here??
No not really!
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