Parents blast Wii Zapper - why not enclose applications to the NRA as well?

[Zeus]

NewJersey.com has posted up some more than angry comments from parents who are concerned by Nintendo's decision to release the Wii Zapper. The Wii is being marketed as a family console and officially releasing a peripheral which encourages kids to pretend they are shooting people with a gun isn't the smartest thing to do. One parent sarcastically remarked that "this is what we need, children with guns learning how to aim and shoot" and another grandparent again sarcastically suggested that they should enclose an application to the NRA as well. So what do you think, is it a good move from Nintendo the company with a good family reputation to release a peripheral which encourages youngsters to replicate shooting actions? A bit of harmless fun or could it have long term implications on a child?



"Great, this is what we need. Children with guns learning how to aim and shoot. Then we can sit back and wonder what is happening to our country with kids killing kids......what's next? Could we make it squirt blood, too" one reader commented

A "very concerned grandparent" wrote:
"....Why don't they enclose an application to the NRA in every box as well....the marketing person who came up with this brain child of an idea should be fired."

Another reader commented, "I think it's irresponsible for Wii to come out with a controller that looks like a gun so kids can play games simulating shooting. What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?"


News Source: <a href="http://blog.nj.com/parentalguidance/2007/09/what_do_we_think_of_wii.html" target="_blank">nj.com</a>

[Schnick1]

What kind of message are we sending as parents when we buy these things for our kids?

Uhhhh.....Don't buy it for your kids then???????

What the hell is wrong with people today????:confused::mad::(

[tomm2cool]

I think this is hilarious coming from anyone living in NJ. LOL Why dont video game companies put some sort of disclaimer on their games and peripherals stating that parents should actually show interests in their children by monitoring the things they watch or play with and also explain to their children the content involved? NOTE TO PARENTS: ELECTRONIC MEDIA DEVICES ARE NOT BABYSITTERS!

[TomIsADeftone]

In the style of Seth Rogan:

**** OFF!

[blade47167]

Honestly this is no different than Duck Hunt or Time Crisis. Still I guess it depends on the game you are actually playing.

[benny32]

Oh how the sheeple have been pacified. Besides the obvious retarded complaints, knowing how to shoot a gun and accurately aim is a life skill. When the government comes to town with foriegn troops rounding you all up for FEMA camps you will wish you had bought a gun.

Not that I feel sorry for these pathetic excuses for human beings. They dont deserve the liberty they have.

[Vaio Ad]

Ridicioulous!

[Ichinisan]

Why would aiming/shooting skills not be important? We have the "Right to bear arms" for a damn-good reason.

[sigma8]

Doesn't the NRA encourage responsible firearm handling? That doesn't sound too horrible. Also, it's not a gun. It's a zapper. Guns shoot, zappers zap.

[xcxv2]

Perhaps the Zapper + shooting games are a more entertaining alternative than real guns and hunting/ranges to some kids, stupidass old lady ever think of that?

also, chalk me up as a kid raised on lightgun games and never had the slightest interest in real guns.

[MadMax31]

That's a great idea, get the zapper and a applications to the NRA :):D:p:cool:

[Yomoska]

We all know that holding a piece of plastic and aiming at a TV is so much like holding a heavy piece of metal that can possibly scare a little kid by the sound and recoil.

[DaFireStarter]

You know your not forced to buy the goddamn thing

[grapeape]

First off im libertarian so dont attack this as some neo-con rant but I am freakin sick and tired of the pussification of our society. People have stopped standing up for their own rights and a large portion of the population seems to think that if we just give in a concede to everything then we will all get along better. This goes for everything from fighting terrorisim to lowering academic standards in school. The liberal way of thinking has one major flaw...it assumes that everyone thinks alike. Thats the main reason why there will be no "world peace" eutopian order that many of the tree huggers long for...as long as someone has the capacity for free will there will always be someone who relishes in making others miserable, there will always be those that feel the need for power and control and there will always be those are lack a proper moral compass. What I dont understand is why there has been this push to remove the responsibility of raising kids to the hands of the government anyway. Frankly, when I was a kid you never heard about the kinds of non-sense you see in the news today yet supposedly the way I was raised was totally wrong (I was spanked, sometime was grounded for weeks, etc, was told I was being an idiot when I was being an idiot). Protecting children is one thing, sheltering them to the point that they cant deal with the real world or make proper real world decisons is another.

[Vaio Ad]

Why would aiming/shooting skills not be important? We have the "Right to bear arms" for a damn-good reason.

I assume that you are american with reference to the right to bear arms qoute and i would like to inform you that not all the world is the US and the rest of us (the world) do not have the right to bear arms (most of the world countries doesn´t have that right for it´s people)

[pezjono]

I assume that you are american with reference to the right to bear arms qoute and i would like to inform you that not all the world is the US and the rest of us (the world) do not have the right to bear arms (most of the world countries doesn´t have that right for it´s people)

Slow down slick, the article is from NewJersey.com
Do you know where New Jersey is? The U.S.

This is from the main page of their site:
"New Jersey was one of the original 13 colonies. In December 1787, it became the 3rd colony to ratify the Constitution of the United States of America. This action made New Jersey the 3rd state accepted into the Union and helped to create a veritable treasure chest of historic sites and information."

[xcxv2]

I think guns and peace can coexist in America, but loopholes and excessive firepower should be limited to an extent in my uneducated opinion.

[dee]

First ... The liberal way of thinking has one major flaw...it assumes that everyone thinks alike. Thats the main reason why there will be no "world peace" eutopian order that many of the tree huggers long for...as long as someone has the capacity for free will there will always be someone who relishes in making others miserable, there will always be those that feel the need for power and control and there will always be those are lack a proper moral compass. What I dont understand is why there has been this push to remove the responsibility of raising kids to the hands of the government anyway. Frankly, when I was a kid you never heard about the kinds of non-sense you see in the news today yet supposedly the way I was raised was totally wrong (I was spanked, sometime was grounded for weeks, etc, was told I was being an idiot when I was being an idiot). Protecting children is one thing, sheltering them to the point that they cant deal with the real world or make proper real world decisons is another.

I totally agree with everything you said, most parents are just too hands off with their kids and think that if they shelter them or refrain from any form of discipline that causes pain that their kids will be good individuals in society.

The thing about free will is that it give someone the ability to develop either bad habits or good habits. I played with plastic AK-47's and grenades when I was a kid, I watched gruesome, bloody, horror movies as a kid also. The thing that made me know the difference between killing someone in a game and in reality was my parents. They also spanked the crap out of me when I did something stupid or was acting up (which by todays standard would be "child abuse" :rolleyes:).

The parents that gripe are the ones who don't want the extra responsibility of making sure their offspring know the difference between reality and entertainment. If you can't raise your kids then don't have any.

[Vaio Ad]

I know where NJ is and i know about it´s history although not as detailed as you do but i hardly think because the article is from NJ that it´s only targeted americans i think it´s purpose was towards parents and the rest of the world has parents too!!

The title of this thread is Parents blast Wii Zapper not Americans or american parents blast Wii Blaster.

[Xenontc]

Wow, these people are retarded. Approx 20 years ago these people were probably playing duck hunt with the light gun, and now they're bitching about the same peripheral for a new system. Did they turn into mass murderers because they shot at a TV screen with a plastic toy? No. Will there kids? No. Stfu you stupid c*nts and deal with it.

[Vaio Ad]

Wow, these people are retarded. Approx 20 years ago these people were probably playing duck hunt with the light gun, and now they're bitching about the same peripheral for a new system. Did they turn into mass murderers because they shot at a TV screen with a plastic toy? No. Will there kids? No. Stfu you stupid cunts and deal with it.

Well said and i totaly agree with you!!

[11111]

did anyone even complain when duck hunt first came out

[djrattrap]

did anyone even complain when duck hunt first came out

no they did not complain...not one bit...oh..what about deer hunter for the arcade...you get to actually hold a toy shot gun...look out folks...my sons gonna shoot you with a play toy! a toy that cant even do any damage. and i think there is a reason that you have to be a certain age to purchase a real gun...lol. better look out.....Hogan's alley for nintendo is the next one to get hit for having a gun...lol. please...if you dont like it...dont buy it! you can still play the game without a zapper.....yes a zapper...not a gun! and lets not forget about super nintendo's super scope which looked like a bazooka...ROFL!

[Cantenna]

NewJersey.com has posted up some more than angry comments from parents who are concerned by Nintendo's decision to release the Wii Zapper. The Wii is being marketed as a family console and officially releasing a peripheral which encourages kids to pretend they are shooting people with a gun isn't the smartest thing to do. One parent sarcastically remarked that "this is what we need, children with guns learning how to aim and shoot" and another grandparent again sarcastically suggested that they should enclose an application to the NRA as well. So what do you think, is it a good move from Nintendo the company with a good family reputation to release a peripheral which encourages youngsters to replicate shooting actions? A bit of harmless fun or could it have long term implications on a child?



News Source: <a href="http://blog.nj.com/parentalguidance/2007/09/what_do_we_think_of_wii.html" target="_blank">nj.com</a>


PLEASE! This is rediculous! Look!
1)Jap, Chinese, culture DO NOT CARE AT ALL ABOUT LETTING THERE YOUNG ONE PLAY WITH A VIDEO GAME GUN, THAT IS ORANGE
2) USA Believes in the right to bear arms
3) The only time you would use this periphial in the first place would be in a 1st person shooter! wHICH IM SURE WOULD ALREADY BE RESTRICTED TO YO YOUTHS IN THE 1ST PLACE???
4) Parents need to realize that They Must parent, not the entertainment industry?

Im disgusted at how much of a ***** the industry has become!

In Isreal, 13 year old go to McDonalds with a semi atuomatic weapon.
I sure as ****, feel more comfortable sending tomarrow adults & young adults to fight in war where as a kid they were denied access to an Orange, video game gun, for duck hunt.

Do we honestly want to raise a bunch of ***** who could one day be in a situation where they have to defend the rights and freedoms of what we believe in? LOL.

LOL, LOL, LOL, So funny!

Really. We have an opourtunity to develop sharp, shooting skills at a young age and all that is needed is good parenting guidence.

Remember! The rest of the world doesn't care for this ***** interferance

[Sinar]

^ Beat me to it 11111. Lots of 'family' systems have had lightgun addons and wii's zapper addon looks the least like a gun of all of them.
Kids have cap-guns and water pistols, I dislike guns but this is just stupid.
Then again so is allowing many people to buy real weapons to go shooting up schools and to defend against civil war.

[metalclay]

word GRAPEAPE,

kinda reminds me of that school that banned tag. they said, the child who was the slowest would be made fun of and suffer. bullshit! in the real world, you will be ridiculed, there will be people who have harder skin, and...if you don't deal with it early on, you're gonna have problems later.

and...frankly, do enclose membership to the NRA, right to bear arms, **** yeah.

will need them when this damn government decides to install cameras in my backyard.

[DjoeN]

if it wasn't on a Nintendo console, nobody would care!

[put4558350]

no one say any thing about g-con ?

[mohomeboy]

Thats why socity is f'ed up these days, when I was young I played with fireworks, toy guns, bb guns, matches and an ak-47 (under supervision from my uncle in iraq) And I turned out just fine. I'm not a hazard to people, except for the way i drive sometimes if i'm in a rush.

Back in my days you had to be a man, fight your way to the top, yeah it was fists back then not like today with guns, but still. I became a man not a wossie.

Man I'm gunna teach my kids everythin, teach them how to hit and be hit - even teach them to fight dirty. But no way will I NOT let them play with a game that resembles a gun.

It's not called the wiigun, it's a zapper!

Yeah a toy is a toy and real is real, they need to learn this.

IO can go on forever but for your sake I will stop now

[jab_2004]

This has prob already been said i just havent read all the thread but will comment anyway im not to young myself but nintendo are a family company and the comments on there are comin from people who grew up with duck hunt as a game and then the SNES Scope rather fun really :p



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ok really bad the duck hunt part was on the first page really should learn to read better lol

[mohomeboy]

This has prob already been said i just havent read all the thread but will comment anyway im not to young myself but nintendo are a family company and the comments on there are comin from people who grew up with duck hunt as a game and then the SNES Scope rather fun really :p

My point exactly dude, I mean c'mon they must be my age or my bros age (more likely) so they should no that it's harmless fun. People just want to sue these days

Will they buy manhunt 2 for them too as it's on the family console, but not a family game...

[cmschleich]

What a bunch of p*ssies. I'd rather have a gun crazy electorate than the alternative.

[SoCalSRH]

lol. what the hell? the original nintendo had a zapper that was included with the console. i was 6 years old when i first got my nintendo (1987) even had the gyromite dude; these parents need to chill out. i didn't turn into some blood thirsty psychopathic killer because of duck hunt. i'm not a killer at all and have enjoyed a lot of 'violent' video games. if these dumbass parents don't want the wii zapper don't buy it...simple as that. it seems like more and more parents want the government to control every aspect of their lives because they are incapable of making their own decisions...a truely scary realization. these people need to think for themselves and take care of their own sh!t and not depend on someone else to make all their decisions for them. if you want the government to control and sensor every aspect of your life, move your ass to north korea or communist china!

[msanchez]

Well to nintendo I can only say, you gotta take the bad in with the good. Remember the whole deal of appealing to the masses? well this is a negative side effect of appealing to people who probably weren't gamers in their days. All these parents b*tching are probably people that never touched a video game console before in their lives, and since they hear the wii is child friendly, so it's understandable that from their un-educated point of view (as far as video games goes) this is a troubling development; however, that said I got one question to them: SO? so what? I mean no one is required to purchase the damn thing, or are all these parents so irresponsible that they will simply send little 6 year old Timmy to the mall with $100 to buy video games without any adult supervision? That would worry me more then all the toy guns in the world.

Like many of you I grew up with a nintendo/duck hunt/zapper and I can say that I LOVED zapper games, Bayou Billy, Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley & Operation Wolf where probably some of my favorite games. I also got smacked around something fierce by my mom :D I'm 27 and my mom will probably still b*tch slap me if I curse in front of her. I feel sorry for some parents these days, it's like their kids are holding them captive or something. As grapeape said the pussyfication of society is really getting tiresome.

I'd like to state that I don't support any Shmo being able to buy a gun, and I think this causes a lot more problems then it fixes. If it was like I hear it is in Canada, I would support it maybe. It's ok to have a shotgun to protect your home, and that more importantly you can't conceal, but having a concealed hand gun out on the street isn't something I can agree with.

[Ryupower]

didnt a gun type thing com with the NES
http://nes.kreese.com/grafik/tillbehor/zappergrey.jpg


you need to learn to AIM and SHOOT with that too

[Topher84]

maybe they should able to learn to "shoot and kill" so they can kill their idiotic parents for not teaching them the difference between reality and a video GAME

[benny32]

I assume that you are american with reference to the right to bear arms qoute and i would like to inform you that not all the world is the US and the rest of us (the world) do not have the right to bear arms (most of the world countries doesn´t have that right for it´s people)


People hold rights irrespective of their governments. If the US was gone tommorow I would still have a right to a gun. If US was announced a dictatorship I would still have a right to a gun.

The people hold rights not explicitly stated in the bill of rights via the 10th ammendment. The bill of rights did not explicitly say "we the people of only this country have these rights"

In theory, the bill of rights can apply to anyone who recognizes the document as a legitimate document.

Most importantly, you have the right to a gun. Now go out there and change your corrupt government. Good Day to you Sir!

[Demonic_Cr0w]

This stuff is really starting to piss the crap outa me.... And pissing out crap isn't a fun thing to do... Believe me...

Anywho, why are these parents getting mad? Just don't buy it for your kids you stupid shits! Don't make other people suffer for your stupidity.

[HowardC]

I find it hilarious that in 1985 the original zapper was the very reason that many people bought the nes. It was made into a "entertainment system" instead of just a game console by including devices you wouldn't find on the typical console at the time, thus SINGLE HANDEDLY SAVING THE GAMING INDUSTRY. Also remember that the included game with the zapper was duck hunt. DUCK HUNT! You didn't hunt zombies or killer robots or mutant creatures, you hunted poor innocent ducks! I mean seriously, when was the last time you heard of someone mauled to death by a duck?

And you know what, people LOVED IT! Why? Because it's just a frikkin game!!!!!!! There was no doubt in anyone's minds that duck hunt was totally different than real hunting. Actually the zapper was a main selling point because shooting a gun is easier than using a controller, so parents and small kids could have fun as well.

Jump to two years later and all gun toys in the US are required to be painted orange or have an orange tip because some poor kid got shot by the police for holding up a gun from an arcade cabinet. Now at first glance this sounds reasonable, but actually it was a total overreaction. First off, the kid stole the arcade gun... that's what stealing gets you kid, shot... lesson learned. Secondly the gun still had the chain, the chord and the wires hanging off of it! Oh and it just happened to be in the inner-city and the kid just happened to be black. See this isn't the fault of toy manufacturers, but the fault of an incompetant, racist police force. The proper response would have been to fire those idiot cops on the spot. My guess is the fact that the kid was black and he stole something had more to do with him getting shot than the cops thinking he had a real gun, but even so, someone dumb enough to mistake a gun with wires and crap hanging out of it for a real one is too dumb to be allowed on the streets.

Jump about 10 years further and toy guns are deemed too realistic and now simply having an orange tip isn't enough. Now the entire gun must be an unrealistic color. I mean seriously, what kid wants a lime orange uzi?

Go closer to present day and toy manufacturers are pressured to remove realistic guns completely from their line, even though they are already painted ridiculous colors. Go into a store today and try to find the cool toy guns we grew up with.... they are gone! Even the toy squirt guns. Even those cool plastic uzi water psitols with the recoil and "clack clack" sounds!

My point? Well look back at 1985 when kids had guns to play with. Now look at the world now. If anything removing this method of safely venting our frustrations as made a MORE VIOLENT society, particularly with the youth. I never wanted a shotgun as a kid, beacuse I had my trusty toy shot gun, which was way more fun. I grew up to be non-violent and I've never owned a real gun, aside from a childhood bb gun, in my entire life! Guns are fascinating to children so rest assured, they will get ahold of them one way or another. The question is, will it be a harmless toy gun, or will it be an interest in hunting. Because believe me, if you don't have the choice you'll gravitate towards the "bad" one.

I also need to point out that the wii zappers lineup consists of:

Aracde shooters that have been around with far more realistic guns for your kids to play for years.

Games in which you DO NOT shoot people or animals, such as resident evil uc, in which you shoot zombies and monsters.

A target practice game... yeah, a game where you shoot targets. Oh how violent!

[SoCalSRH]

Go closer to present day and toy manufacturers are pressured to remove realistic guns completely from their line, even though they are already painted ridiculous colors. Go into a store today and try to find the cool toy guns we grew up with.... they are gone! Even the toy squirt guns. Even those cool plastic uzi water psitols with the recoil and "clack clack" sounds!

dude. i remember the entertech water guns. we had some bad ass water fights with those back in the day. the times...how they have changed. :(

[UltraPic]

Doesn't the NRA encourage responsible firearm handling? That doesn't sound too horrible. Also, it's not a gun. It's a zapper. Guns shoot, zappers zap.
No, Ted Nugent's there main man nowdays :D. And who cares what some *****'s in NJ say, its not like its the center of the uniververse and were only bitching cos someone posted this story.

[catfish24]

Thats why socity is f'ed up these days, when I was young I played with fireworks, toy guns, bb guns, matches and an ak-47 (under supervision from my uncle in iraq) And I turned out just fine. I'm not a hazard to people, except for the way i drive sometimes if i'm in a rush.

Back in my days you had to be a man, fight your way to the top, yeah it was fists back then not like today with guns, but still. I became a man not a wossie.

Man I'm gunna teach my kids everythin, teach them how to hit and be hit - even teach them to fight dirty. But no way will I NOT let them play with a game that resembles a gun.

It's not called the wiigun, it's a zapper!

Yeah a toy is a toy and real is real, they need to learn this.

IO can go on forever but for your sake I will stop now

Seriously, I'm on my school's marksmanship team, I hunt, and go to the shooting range a lot to take target practice and shoot clay pigeons(under supervision of course).

I don't go around shooting people just because I like shooting guns or because I like playing a game that involes shooting something.

If parents don't want to let their kids play with the zapper, just don't buy it. No need to complain about something that you don't have to buy/use. People these days...

[jbondsr]

I agree with grapeape and the majority of people in this forum.
I was also spanked as a child, but the thing is, we knew that we were getting spanked because we were in the wrong. (For example, if my grandma sees one of my little cousins who does something wrong, she spanks them, they cry, but she rocks them until they stop crying. You show them that they did worng but show that you still love them.)

These days, there are laws in place to prevent parents from using physical punishment to "abuse" their children. There's a big difference between discipline and abuse. I also notice that these days, teachers are telling kids to alert the authorities if anyone lays a hand on them. That's all well and good, but it makes parents afraid to even touch their children.

Then we have the people who let the children do what they want, they yell at them, and then let their children cry until they ball their eyes out. Now I have no problem with this when you're not around me, and how you raise your child is your own business, but when I'm trying to enjoy my meal at a restaurant or trying to take it a bit easy on my way home from work, then we have a problem.

[VerWii]

I assume that you are american with reference to the right to bear arms qoute and i would like to inform you that not all the world is the US and the rest of us (the world) do not have the right to bear arms (most of the world countries doesn´t have that right for it´s people)

A very good point. These sorts of story's almost 100% come out off the USA.

They've got this story and we in the UK have the on about 103 year olds playin wii in a retirment home.

Tis a funny old world.

[urbanninjaun]

NewJersey.com has posted up some more than angry comments from parents who are concerned by Nintendo's decision to release the Wii Zapper. The Wii is being marketed as a family console and officially releasing a peripheral which encourages kids to pretend they are shooting people with a gun isn't the smartest thing to do. One parent sarcastically remarked that "this is what we need, children with guns learning how to aim and shoot" and another grandparent again sarcastically suggested that they should enclose an application to the NRA as well. So what do you think, is it a good move from Nintendo the company with a good family reputation to release a peripheral which encourages youngsters to replicate shooting actions? A bit of harmless fun or could it have long term implications on a child?



News Source: <a href="http://blog.nj.com/parentalguidance/2007/09/what_do_we_think_of_wii.html" target="_blank">nj.com</a>

1st off every nintendo system that has ever been made has had a gun, plus you don't have to buy the stupid thing for your kids, so now just take a second to think about something that is plastic and you aim at the TV, yes the wii controller but now you also have your TV remote does this mean that everytime you change the channel that your trying to learn how to shoot and aim or are we saying that it is some sort of a terror act? Either way if you want to get mad at nintendo Wii then get mad at every TV manufacturer in the world and boycott using your TV remote.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Jagov]

Why would aiming/shooting skills not be important? We have the "Right to bear arms" for a damn-good reason.


What happens to all those armless Bears, how do they eat honey? :D

[msanchez]

What happens to all those armless Bears, how do they eat honey? :D

I've been fighting the urge to make a "bear arms" joke LOL specially after I was watching a family guy episode were they touch the subject.

[Ichinisan]

1st off every nintendo system that has ever been made has had a gun,

If you have some unreleased prototype for the N64....please let me know! ;)

[Foxx373]

Guns dont kill kids, parents that dont teach their kids that guns kill is what kills kids. Dont bame the TV for making your kids think they can fly like their favorite cartoon characters, blame the parents that dont get involved with their kids lives. Dont try and blame the media for being a bad parent... really. Get off your ass and realize what you are sitting your children in front of for 7 hours eash day. Or better yet, instead of playing Wii Sports, why dont you enroll them in ACTUAL sports.

This is a topic that really rubs me the wrong way, not because im an obsessed gamer, its because i have an I.Q. above room tempature and hate to see how america is being turned to ****.

First parents ***** and complain they want the government to step in and add a rating system to games, mainly due to the fact that the parent cant take 30 seconds to read the back of the game box. So they want the government to let them know whats good for the masses, and whats inappropriate. Now we have liberal media dykes like Hillery Clinton lobby'ing for the whole "Violent games make violent children" crap. So you are going to blame games like GTA that have a Mature rating (age 16+) for inspiring your 8 year old to smack around girls in the back of the classroom, or are you going to blame the parent that insisted we have a rating system for games and absoloutely, completely, and utterly failed to even use it? However games like Pokemon endorse animal cruelty, and battling to the death... You are going to tell me that doesnt get kids to want to capture cute animals and have them fight a grusome bloody battle? How about Harry potter promoting pegan, wiccan, and other feats of magical belief?m (nothing wrong with that, as long as its for the true meaning, not some magical hype) You are going to tell me harry potter is making our kids think they can fly brooms and cast spells? Or how about all of these 'xtreme sports games? Is that influencing little bobby and sally to ride their razor scooter down the face of a cliff? What about extreme racing games? Does that make kids want to become reckless drivers?

Bottom line is, dont blame the product, blame the parents that let their kids get their grubby little hands on it. Blame the parents that think the media is a suitable babysitter because they cant take the time to interact with their children. If your kid doesnt know that guns kill, magic (as far as i know) doesnt exist, and its wrong to lure a hooker into the back of an alley... have your way with her... then beat her to a bloody pulp with a splintered wooden bat is WRONG.... then you are a failure as a parent. You should have had hamsters instead of children.

If you dont like a product, dont buy it, and dont put it into the hands of your children. Quit blaming the market for 'influencin' yer' kiddz'.

[chandlerdepmode]

i guess they never played wild gunman 20 years ago.... maybe im the only person in NJ who owns it.... :rolleyes:

if you dont like it don't buy it...