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Zeus
08-08-2007, 05:23 PM
An earlier news story indicated that 300 has come the fastest and highest selling high definition movie, but now more specific figures have come to light. It is claimed that the Blu-ray version is outselling the HD DVD version, 65% to a mere 35%. These figures are supported by a research company who claim that sales patterns for the year show Blu-ray accounts for 67% of high definition movie sales in respect to just 33% for HD-DVD.



So far, the Blu-ray Disc version of 300 is outselling the HD DVD version, 65% to 35%. According to Home Media Research, that mirrors the overall sales pattern this year (Jan-June), with Blu-ray accounting for 67% and 33% for HD DVD,.

Warner releases movies on both of the competing formats. Sony, Disney and Fox only support Blu-ray, while Universal exclusively supports HD DVD.


News Source: <a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/technologylive/2007/08/blu-ray-continu.html" target="_blank">usatoday.com</a>

jerzmob
08-08-2007, 05:26 PM
i can't wait until all the exclusives (even though there are not many) on HD-DVD will convert to BD and HD-DVD will soon perish.

Halo Blu-Ray FTW!!!!!!!!! in 2009

http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/halobbb.jpg

XxBigP123xX
08-08-2007, 05:29 PM
no thanks, i've had it on my ps3 HDD for like 2 months now:rolleyes:

jerzmob
08-08-2007, 05:33 PM
no thanks, i've had it on my ps3 HDD for like 2 months now:rolleyes:


shhhh that's so supposed to be a secret.:cool:

enlightx
08-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Playusa seem to be selling more HD-DVD then blueray

its probs beacuse u get normal DVD playback as well.

i find the format war useless its all gonna come down to whoever gets the cheapest commerical player out

i like HD-DVD because the region free aspect being in the UK this helps a LOT !

jerzmob
08-08-2007, 05:43 PM
Playusa seem to be selling more HD-DVD then blueray

its probs beacuse u get normal DVD playback as well.

i find the format war useless its all gonna come down to whoever gets the cheapest commerical player out

i like HD-DVD because the region free aspect being in the UK this helps a LOT !


hmmm i believe BD format also supports region free:o

Section8
08-08-2007, 05:45 PM
hmmm i believe BD format also supports region free:o

wrong. BD is split into 3 regions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

However, a lot of Blu-Ray are region free at the moment. But don't bank on it.

jerzmob
08-08-2007, 05:52 PM
wrong. BD is split into 3 regions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

However, a lot of Blu-Ray are region free at the moment. But don't bank on it.


oh no :o

wikipedia...tsk tsk...shame on you :(

yes, but it's still correct indeed. So i made a mistake but even so, these region codes will never make it on "official" movie releases. i expect it your beloved porn and other miscellaneous media

Rockman_Joey
08-08-2007, 06:26 PM
Ive ordered the Blu Ray Version and Im waiting for HD MADNESS!!!!

braids
08-08-2007, 06:33 PM
I find it funny to read this because I had the darnest time trying to find the hd dvd version where I live. They had plenty of the blue-ray version. The circuit city stores told me that they received twice as many blue-ray version compared the the hd dvd.

I was finally able to find one at walmart and it was the last one. Had a hard time finding it. The salesperson told me the same as well. I am wondering if the inventory of the HD DVD version affected its sales. I almost bought the blue-ray version but I wanted the exclusive features.

daps83777
08-08-2007, 06:35 PM
i'm confused, so are these percentages only guesses by a research firm? i heard ealier that it split was 60/40 blu-ray over hd-dvd. but it was also said that 300 for hd-dvd was sold out everywhere because demand was higher than people thought. so that hd-dvd version could have been even or a little higher than the blu-ray version had they been supplied enough copies of the hd-dvd version.

felixm477
08-08-2007, 10:16 PM
ahhh so basically they are assuming since bluray sales are 65% and hd-dvd are 53% that MUST mean that 300 has sold 65% of its sales over the hd-dvd version, yup i guess the consumer cant for once in his life decide not to follow an estimate good work sony and the bluray hype squad!

felixm477
08-08-2007, 10:19 PM
hmmm i believe BD format also supports region free:o
EUROPE gets a swift kick in the ass when it comes to regions in bluray, all the other big regions have joined a group and left poor europe to suffer.

cardboardbox
08-08-2007, 11:09 PM
ahhh so basically they are assuming since bluray sales are 65% and hd-dvd are 53% that MUST mean that 300 has sold 65% of its sales over the hd-dvd version, yup i guess the consumer cant for once in his life decide not to follow an estimate good work sony and the bluray hype squad!awwww, the big bad Sony hype machine! So big and bad that they have everyone (but those desperately clinging to MS/HDDVD) believing they are outselling HDDVD 2 to 1.

buddha
08-08-2007, 11:12 PM
Yeah europe is really fuked in case of the blueray region coding .We are in one team with africa :eek: Seems like we europeans cant import any movies anymore untill the regioncode is cracked .

MadonnaProject
08-09-2007, 12:17 AM
it may not be a great game console. but hey its a great video player. which is in line with sony's intentions, cause thats why they shoved blu ray down everyones throats.

felixm477
08-09-2007, 12:50 AM
Yeah europe is really fuked in case of the blueray region coding .We are in one team with africa :eek: Seems like we europeans cant import any movies anymore untill the regioncode is cracked .
well look at the bright side youd get roots and the color purple on bluray way before the states lol

Mikeyy
08-09-2007, 12:58 AM
Damn, HD-DVD always has some excuse as to why it was outsold.. Can't they take a hint? Or are they gonna stay in La La land because they make up statistics and don't count ps3 as a blu-ray player so HDDVD can pretend they are king?

The only way HDDVD is winning this gen is if Toshiba Commits Hari-Kari like they did with VHS and whores up a victory. Which won't happen.

NewBeginning
08-09-2007, 01:01 AM
Argh! That means HDDVD has 35% of the market. Is that something you want to be letting people know Sony? That means you're not kicking their ass as badly as you'd have everyone believe.

Raist3d
08-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Argh! That means HDDVD has 35% of the market. Is that something you want to be letting people know Sony? That means you're not kicking their ass as badly as you'd have everyone believe.

Nice attempt at spinning the truth. You must consider a political career. Of course coming from less than half the market to 65% dominance kinda makes your point sad.

- Raist

blade732
08-09-2007, 01:59 AM
yup and the bluray version is the shittier version of the two...

HD-DVD (http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/887/300.html)
Bluray (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/886/300.html)

Cheunce
08-09-2007, 02:01 AM
Again. These numbers are pointless with out the number of soled discs. My guess is that they do not want to tell them since then we would now that the next-gen disc are out sold by 1000:1 compared to DVD.

They want us to think that we have to choose format now or we are doomed. The format war will not be decided until the average-joe start buying the discs and that well take at least 1-2 years.

I find it very amusing when people here think that the format wars is over and that one or the over will win. It just shows that you are to young to remember the VHS vs BetaMax vs Video 2000 (yes there were a third format) and how long it took before we had a clear winner. BetaMax were kicking as in the beginning since all the high.end buyers were buying it. But when the average-joe started to buy players they bought vhs because it was cheaper (the porn thing is a myth). In the end it will be the price of the player/disc that will be what will decided it not a fan boy in an internet forum.

Just my $0.05. Feel free to flame me. It is not like I´m going to loose any sleep about it

Section8
08-09-2007, 02:57 AM
yup and the bluray version is the shittier version of the two...

HD-DVD (http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/887/300.html)
Bluray (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/886/300.html)

Shittier because it doesn't contain some extras that 99% of people will never watch anyway. Scores are identical on everything else.


Warner has served up quite a treat for HD DVD fans with a cutting-edge assortment of high-def exclusives.

Easily the most anticipated bonus is the "Bluescreen Picture-in-Picture Version" of the film. A true first for any home video format, Warner has encoded the entire feature in its bluescreen, pre-post-produced version. Like your typical In-Movie Experience track, just activate the feature and a large picture box will appear in the bottom left of the screen, allowing you to watch the before-and-after versions of the film along with audio commentary by director Zack Snyder.

The first few minutes of this one in particular are way cool -- it's really a kick to both see and hear, shot-by-shot, how each effect was done. Everything about the film looks so different -- not just the bluescreen elements that were eventually added in later, but also the entire tone, mood and appearance of the live-action footage. I suspect this will be an instant classic at film schools everywhere.

Having said that, and as truly trend-setting as this feature is, a certain sameness does start to creep in after a while. Sure, CGI geeks will swoon, but 30 minutes on in or so, you get the basic idea of the process Snyder used in creating his visual wizardry, and some may find it overkill to sit through this one in its entirety. Still, this is certainly the kind of pioneering bonus feature that has propelled Warner to the forefront of studios supporting high-def, so far be it from me to complain. Please keep this stuff coming!

The bluscreen feature alone would have earned '300' its place in next-gen history, but Warner has also included some groundbreaking web-enabled extras, too.

The most intriguing among the web-enabled extras is a feature called "Pick Your Favorite Scenes." Here, you can assemble and re-organize your favorite bits of '300,' and then store the line-up to your player's internal accessible memory and/or put it online to share with others. Warner will even let you review and rate other fan-made cuts. While I'm not sure how many of "'300's Greatest Hits" I'd want to watch, the technology here is undeniably exciting.

There is also a fresh interactive game, "Vengeance and Valor." Think Risk meets Checkers, only using iconography from the movie. Gameplay is pretty basic: you can select a few components (such as the type of infantrymen you want to fight your opponent with, and your plan of attack), but it's not all that involving. Plus, without a worthy online opponent you're kinda out of luck. Still, I suspect Warner is just testing the waters with this one -- depending on the reaction from early adopters, here's betting that future applications will be more sophisticated and complex.

Finally, in a nod to unabashed capitalism, '300' is also the first next-gen title ever to provide viewers with one-click access to buy film-specific merchandise. Thanks to the miracle of HD DVD, you can now "take '300' with you wherever you go!" by using the disc's web interface to purchase custom wallpaper and ringtones for your mobile phone. Of course, you could do this on any old PC, too, so aside from the novelty factor this is hardly much of a "feature." Still, I can't wait until my HD DVD player starts to try selling me Harry Potter plush toys...

blade47167
08-09-2007, 04:43 AM
ahhh so basically they are assuming since bluray sales are 65% and hd-dvd are 53% that MUST mean that 300 has sold 65% of its sales over the hd-dvd version, yup i guess the consumer cant for once in his life decide not to follow an estimate good work sony and the bluray hype squad!

Wow I suppose you skipped reading comprehension on your way to high school drop out.

Trashcat
08-09-2007, 05:49 AM
i can't wait until all the exclusives (even though there are not many) on HD-DVD will convert to BD and HD-DVD will soon perish.
Halo Blu-Ray FTW!!!!!!!!! in 2009
http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/halobbb.jpg
lol even sony fanboys love halo what an awesome franchise.

Xenogears V
08-09-2007, 06:46 AM
Hd-Dvd R.I.P.

Vesica
08-09-2007, 09:23 AM
i can't wait until all the exclusives (even though there are not many) on HD-DVD will convert to BD and HD-DVD will soon perish.

Halo Blu-Ray FTW!!!!!!!!! in 2009

http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/halobbb.jpg

Fox owns the primary license rights to the Halo movie, so it's going to be an Blu-Ray exclusive anyway :rolleyes: Unless Fox decides to support HD-DVD

sigma8
08-09-2007, 11:31 AM
ahhh so basically they are assuming since bluray sales are 65% and hd-dvd are 53% that MUST mean that 300 has sold 65% of its sales over the hd-dvd version, yup i guess the consumer cant for once in his life decide not to follow an estimate good work sony and the bluray hype squad!
That was a bit confusing, but if you read the USAtoday source article, it says that the "sales were 65%/35%--which is similar to how overall sales have been going". So no, they're not just using the past to predict the present. That said, they haven't provided numbers, and if they are truly being objective and helpful, one has to wonder why they wouldn't just release those numbers.

It's possible they're contractually forbidden to do so. Sometimes the research firms purchase their data, and it has "restrictions" on release.

As for stock of the movie here, when I went to Newbury Comics (local chain), they were sold out of blu-ray, and still had 1 or 2 HD-DVD copies in. When I went to Best Buy (this is on release day, mind you), they had plenty of both.

As for the special features differences, it's humbling for me to know that the HD-DVD version has ANYTHING that is extra compared to the blu-ray version, but what it has, is you can watch a PIP throughout the whole movie, that shows what the shot looked like against the blue/green screen. So you're just seeing a before/after--the whole movie through. Not really the most exciting thing unless you're a budding blue/green screen filmmaker, looking for tips.