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Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 09:10 AM
FINALLY!

After hours of trying every possible Chrono Cross POPS/ID combination I finally found the perfect one!

No lag, no crashes on STATUS, BOSSES nor PARTY JOIN!
Use either POPS 3.40 or 3.51 (ex. through 3.52 M33-2 popsloader) with GAMEID SCUS 94640 (from Syphon Filter 3).
Be sure it's SCUS not SLUS. Some people reported to enter that by mistake, heh.
Works wonders! No more crashes on STATUS/PJ/PS in 3.51 and no more crashes on Boss fights in 3.40.

Kudos to all the people from 'RE2 fix works with FF8' thread which kind of motivated me to go through all this.

Enjoy your game!


You might also want to use Psychospacefish's DISCCHANGE patch, since the game does not allow you to save before asking to switch to DISC 2.

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=63194

Huge props Psychofish! You've done it again!


Update

Apparently the fix does not work with 3.52.

3.40 and 3.51 are the only ones that work. Use popsloader if needed.


Update 2

Some people make funny mistake of typing SLUS instead of SCUS in the ID.
Check twice before you post if it does not work for you, heh.


Update 3

If you happen to stumble upon some sound issues, make sure you're having the DISC SPEED option set to NORMAL, not FAST.

NEWEST UPDATE

Different pops-converter compatibility, multi-disc compatibility and some really relevant info.

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=101299

Props to akadewboy.

Metalmurphy
08-08-2007, 10:53 AM
Pardon my ignorance. Why would the game work better with just and ID change? Isn't that just a label?

manias
08-08-2007, 11:15 AM
Pardon my ignorance. Why would the game work better with just and ID change? Isn't that just a label?
Because the pops emulator has a list of ID's sony has specified settings for. So we can use that list, or any other key. The ones from the list have settings for each of em, all other keys are unspecified therefore the same.
congratulations jinx! I bet a lot of people are waiting on that :)

Metalmurphy
08-08-2007, 11:31 AM
Because the pops emulator has a list of ID's sony has specified settings for. So we can use that list, or any other key. The ones from the list have settings for each of em, all other keys are unspecified therefore the same.
congratulations jinx! I bet a lot of people are waiting on that :)

I see. i was thinking it would be something like that.

I'm just asked cause honestly i saw no difference with that ID and the one i've been using (the original Chrono Cross ID)

The only problem i noticed was a small freeze during fmvs every couple of seconds. But that new ID has it as well.

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 11:34 AM
I see. i was thinking it would be something like that.

I'm just asked cause honestly i saw no difference with that ID and the one i've been using (the original Chrono Cross ID)

The only problem i noticed was a small freeze during fmvs every couple of seconds. But that new ID has it as well.

Earlier the game would either freeze on STATUS/PARTY JOIN-CHANGE screens (3.03 + ) or freeze during the boss-fights (3.40).

Now it's stable, no freezes whatsover - and most importantly - no lag!

Keep in mind that if you already have a savegame, and want to transfer it to a new ID, you have to use CWCHEAT's Memory Card Manager.

And thanks Manias, seeing some posts from the FFVIII thread really gave me motivation...

Metalmurphy
08-08-2007, 11:38 AM
Well, i haven't played alot so its normal i haven't encountered any of those problems. But when does that LAG happen? Cause mine hasn't lagged at all.

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 11:48 AM
Well, i haven't played alot so its normal i haven't encountered any of those problems. But when does that LAG happen? Cause mine hasn't lagged at all.

Before I found this one, people were using Biohazard's 2 ID which also cured the crashes but introduced horrendous lag to the game.

By no lag, I mean no lag with this specific GAMEID.

manias
08-08-2007, 01:14 PM
by the way if you just change the GameID and not the saveID you should be able to use your older savegames

Metalmurphy
08-08-2007, 01:19 PM
by the way if you just change the GameID and not the saveID you should be able to use your older savegames

You mean they're separate IDs? oO I only choose one when converting the ISOs

manias
08-08-2007, 01:38 PM
You mean they're separate IDs? oO I only choose one when converting the ISOs
yep you can specificy both seperately using psx2psp

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 01:56 PM
You mean they're separate IDs? oO I only choose one when converting the ISOs

They're seperate.

But to fully transfer saves, you should do like that:

Install newest CWCHEAT, fire up the game on the OLD ID where the saves are, press and hold select to enter cwcheat, choose Memory Card Manager, choose SAVE MEMCARDX. (It saves your memory card image to a file)

Then quit the game, re-enter it on the NEW ID, enter cwcheat mc manager again, choose LOAD MEMCARDX to SLOT 2, return to the game, load the slot 2 save, as you're in the game re-save it to SLOT 1. Then just re-enter the game again and the saves are fully transfered.

Metalmurphy
08-08-2007, 02:50 PM
They're seperate.

But to fully transfer saves, you should do like that:

Install newest CWCHEAT, fire up the game on the OLD ID where the saves are, press and hold select to enter cwcheat, choose Memory Card Manager, choose SAVE MEMCARDX. (It saves your memory card image to a file)

Then quit the game, re-enter it on the NEW ID, enter cwcheat mc manager again, choose LOAD MEMCARDX to SLOT 2, return to the game, load the slot 2 save, as you're in the game re-save it to SLOT 1. Then just re-enter the game again and the saves are fully transfered.

I see. Thanks for the info ;)

MajinGoukiZX
08-08-2007, 03:13 PM
I would just like to say, Kudos!

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 03:14 PM
No problem Murphy!


Just found out it doesn't work on 3.52.

Only 3.40 and 3.51.

Jon_Platt
08-08-2007, 05:21 PM
great find mate, i saked off chrono cross about a week ago cos of the status crash thing. Im gona have to free up some room on my memory stick to try this:D . I know it must of been long hard work using trial and error with codes especially if ya went alphabetically from A lol, how did you try the codes anyway? Anyway i just wanna say thanks for all of the hard work and effort.

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 07:56 PM
great find mate, i saked off chrono cross about a week ago cos of the status crash thing. Im gona have to free up some room on my memory stick to try this:D . I know it must of been long hard work using trial and error with codes especially if ya went alphabetically from A lol, how did you try the codes anyway? Anyway i just wanna say thanks for all of the hard work and effort.

Glad to hear you're happy, mate!

Yes, I tried starting from the list down. Took me quite a few hours, but it was worth it. I was changing ID's using ZingaBurga's software, loading memcard from CWCheat and going into status - then trying to fight a nearby boss.

Then when I finally found a good one, I've played for an hour or two. No crashes whatsoever!

Great thing to have one of the best psx rpg's finally playable!

Godlikez*
08-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Excellent! I'm going to play this soon as im done with Xenogears!

Thanks again for the hard work Jinx

Jinx13378
08-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Excellent! I'm going to play this soon as im done with Xenogears!

Thanks again for the hard work Jinx

Xenogears is my all-time favourite RPG.

But you really have to know theology and philosophy to fully appreciate it.

Have you installed patch 2.0 for your copy of Xenogears Godlikez?

It's located here:

http://alcahest.club.fr/XG2.0/xg2.0.html

I really advise you do that, it changes this game for better.

Xenogears V
08-09-2007, 09:25 AM
Thanks JinX!.

shadyan12
08-09-2007, 11:41 AM
Good job bro! this game is one of my fav. rpg. to bad my gf borrowed my psp. i will try this asap! thanks!!!!

Mathieulh
08-09-2007, 12:16 PM
Still crashes on status for me. I am using 3.52 pops though but I doubt that it changes anything

Jinx13378
08-09-2007, 12:18 PM
Still crashes on status for me. I am using 3.52 pops though but I doubt that it changes anything

Hey Math!

It does change everything.
Read my first post, I stated it only works on 3.40 and 3.51 pops.
On 3.52 it behaves exactly like you described - still hanging on STATUS and PARTY JOIN/SELECT.

Use popsloader.

I have been playing for 6-9 hours since yesterday, recruited several characters, went to the Status screen countless times and fought several boss fights. No sign of crashing whatsoever.

All the best mate!

Mathieulh
08-09-2007, 12:31 PM
Hey Math!

It does change everything.
Read my first post, I stated it only works on 3.40 and 3.51 pops.
On 3.52 it behaves exactly like you described - still hanging on STATUS and PARTY JOIN/SELECT.

Use popsloader.

I have been playing for 6-9 hours since yesterday, recruited several characters, went to the Status screen countless times and fought several boss fights. No sign of crashing whatsoever.

All the best mate!

Thanks for the tip, I will try :)

nihlathak_
08-09-2007, 01:57 PM
Awesome, thanks for the effort mate.

ace3
08-11-2007, 09:49 PM
thx for your information , i will try it.

Mezmorizingmage
08-12-2007, 04:31 AM
Thanks for your fix, so far I can confirm it working. I just started a new game and went to status and it played just fine. I'm using the 3.40 POPS and the game is compressed to level 9. Also, the emulator setting of fast disc loading is on.

Here's a guide for the game:
Works on either 150 or 352 kernel so GAME, GAME150, or GAME352 dont matter

Mooshan
08-12-2007, 08:11 AM
I can confirm this fix to work aswell.

However there is a glitch which I think happens on a rare occasion.

When you get to the Press Start screen you press start and it makes a ringing noise, the bug is present in the sound because sometimes the ringing doesnt stop and happens while you are playing (loops, even during fmv sequences).

Sometimes this doesn't happen though and plays really well with that id.

Thanks for finding it.

Jinx13378
08-12-2007, 09:50 AM
I can confirm this fix to work aswell.

However there is a glitch which I think happens on a rare occasion.

When you get to the Press Start screen you press start and it makes a ringing noise, the bug is present in the sound because sometimes the ringing doesnt stop and happens while you are playing (loops, even during fmv sequences).

Sometimes this doesn't happen though and plays really well with that id.

Thanks for finding it.

Huh? I've restarted the game several times and this did not happen to me using this ID.

The thing you describe DOES HAPPEN however with the Biohazard 2 ID used instead (with huuge lags to follow in-game).

I've also 30 hours of play time and no crashes/glitches whatsoever.


Note: I am using 3.51 pops as this one is newer than 3.40.

Sandman53
08-12-2007, 08:26 PM
Yes, so far no freezing whatsoever.

The only thing I do notice is a tiny bit of lag every so often in battles. Usually when someone uses a skill. Its so small its not even that noticable.

Good find!

teotuf
08-12-2007, 08:49 PM
the annoy ringing sound only happens if u have fast disc load on, turn it off to get rid of it

SHADOW-XIII
08-13-2007, 03:24 PM
the annoy ringing sound only happens if u have fast disc load on, turn it off to get rid of itthank you thank you,I was wondering what's wrong

Metalmurphy
08-13-2007, 06:44 PM
Has anyone noticed the music being to fast? I have the original OST and i noticed the music when playing on the PSP is alot faster, kinda ruins the music tbh :p

Anyone else noticed this or is it just me having this problem?

KingpinZero
08-13-2007, 06:46 PM
maybe its because youre using the pal version instead of the ntsc-u? Just saying because pal games emulated are a bit faster than the ntsc ones...

Metalmurphy
08-13-2007, 06:57 PM
Well yeah, NTSC run at 60fps and PAL at 50fps.

But Chrono Cross never got a PAL release :p So this one is obviously NTSC.

Jinx13378
08-14-2007, 08:35 AM
Maybe it's the OST being recorded slower than the original?

I deliberately just checked the game on PS2 and it sounds just the same like on PSP.

Metalmurphy
08-17-2007, 12:57 PM
I just confirmed it on my PS2. The music is definetly faster when running on the PSP. Probably twice as fast. Maybe its the firmware i'm using? Or maybe because i have a JAP console :(

kaggy
08-17-2007, 01:48 PM
I've played about 10 hours and so far its working great. No issues with sound or music. Thanks alot jinx for this tip..I've been waiting a long time to play this game.

wulinshu
08-17-2007, 02:53 PM
Excuse my noobness but how do you change the game ID and will I be able to use my old saves from before the ID was changed? How do you install CWcheat, im really looking forward to actually playing this game. It used to keep freezing on the komodo boss. :confused:

Jinx13378
08-17-2007, 06:16 PM
I just confirmed it on my PS2. The music is definetly faster when running on the PSP. Probably twice as fast. Maybe its the firmware i'm using? Or maybe because i have a JAP console :(

Weird.

I have a JAP console as well, and I run it using 3.51 popsloaded from 3.52.

edit:

On second check, yes, it does run a little bit faster... But it's not that much of a difference I think. Weird though... it's almost like PAL to NTSC difference.
It is really, really small. Nothing to worry yourself about.

manias
08-17-2007, 06:49 PM
Excuse my noobness but how do you change the game ID and will I be able to use my old saves from before the ID was changed? How do you install CWcheat, im really looking forward to actually playing this game. It used to keep freezing on the komodo boss. :confused:

just read and search the forums dude it's a bit too much for us to just explain in here :P this thread is only on chrono cross.
about the ID's yes you can, as there is a Game ID and Save ID seperately. (psx2psp)

KingpinZero
08-17-2007, 07:02 PM
Well yeah, NTSC run at 60fps and PAL at 50fps.

But Chrono Cross never got a PAL release :p So this one is obviously NTSC.

Chrono Cross got an italian pal release, and it was featuring chrono trigger bundled. I own the original discs, so its kinda impossible for me to be wrong.
At least a pal italian is there..dunno much about the other regions.

Metalmurphy
08-17-2007, 07:13 PM
Chrono Cross got an italian pal release, and it was featuring chrono trigger bundled. I own the original discs, so its kinda impossible for me to be wrong.
At least a pal italian is there..dunno much about the other regions.

Yeah i would love to see that... you're either lying or bought a NTSC release without knowning. The game was never released in any part of Europe ;)

KingpinZero
08-18-2007, 07:20 AM
Nah lying is not my style. Im just sayin that i got the italian version, thats all. The fact that you cannot obtain a copy of it is not my fault, anyway.

Jinx13378
08-18-2007, 07:24 AM
Kingpin, could you please tell us the ID written on the gamedisc's?

Metalmurphy
08-18-2007, 09:50 AM
Nah lying is not my style. Im just sayin that i got the italian version, thats all. The fact that you cannot obtain a copy of it is not my fault, anyway.

Dude... its a fact that the game never got released anywhere in Europe. No it wasn't recalled after being launched, no it wasn't just select Countries. It never happened. The closest thing that could happen is local stores that imported it but the fact of the matter is a PAL version of this game doesn't exist.

You should quit before you make a bigger fool of your self ;)

KingpinZero
08-18-2007, 10:10 AM
Yeah whatever, i dont care. I mean murphy, there are better things in life than arguin for a game in pal or ntsc.
Lets put this under this point of view: i respect your opinion, and you need to respect mines.
Anyway i have better things to do now, cheers.

Jinx13378
08-18-2007, 10:29 AM
Yeah whatever, i dont care. I mean murphy, there are better things in life than arguin for a game in pal or ntsc.
Lets put this under this point of view: i respect your opinion, and you need to respect mines.
Anyway i have better things to do now, cheers.

Kingpin, I asked if you could tell me the ID written on your game cd's.

KingpinZero
08-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Didnt saw your question, i will check as soon as i come back from work. And jinx, im Doc. GbaDoc. :)

Jinx13378
08-18-2007, 10:37 AM
Hah! Fancy seeing you here Gba!

RoughKnight
08-18-2007, 10:51 AM
i searched psp hacks and can't seem to find you post, can you do us a favour and post your easy popsloader here?

Jinx13378
08-18-2007, 11:30 AM
I don't think it's allowed.

I bumped the post on psp-hacks.com in Hacks&Cracks section to the first page for you.

bopit96
08-18-2007, 12:50 PM
ok i tried it and its definitelly awesome no bugs except one i figured out yesterday : during the intro movie scene before going on new game / continue, the video freeze sometimes and dont freeze other times, the rest is good ;)

Metalmurphy
08-18-2007, 03:29 PM
Yeah whatever, i dont care. I mean murphy, there are better things in life than arguin for a game in pal or ntsc.
Lets put this under this point of view: i respect your opinion, and you need to respect mines.
Anyway i have better things to do now, cheers.

Oh i completely agree. That's what makes it even more sad the fact your lying about it... It's not a matter of opinions btw...

Wuthoqquan
08-19-2007, 10:27 PM
I'm pleased to contirbute to this Chrono Cross thread...

I own a japanese PSP with M33 3.52-2. Well... I was really happy to read that this new GAME ID was finally allowing a crash-free gaming experience of Chrono Cross on our PSPs!
Unfortunately, despite having followed all the indications provided at the first post, Chrono Cross has crashed on my PSP after barely an hour into the game. It crashes precisely at Lizard Rock, during the fight with Mama Komodo... the boss that appears after succeding in the third fight to obtain the komodo scale. The game freezes always at the very same point, when I slash the Mama Komodo with a powerful attack, by which I start hitting her with a level-3 attack with 99% Hit probability. After this powerful series of attack, the PSP freezes...

As said before, I'm on the M33 3.52-2 so I have to use popsloader.prx to play Chrono Cross with 3.40 pops. On a side note, please also consider that the game crashes as usual at the status screen if I "popload" 3.51. It seems like 3.51 does not do the job at all for me... I can only use 3.40 and go past the issue with the status screen, but now the game keep freezing every time during the fight with Mama Komodo boss.

I used the original PSX2PSP v1.2 package to convert into .PBP my Chrono Cross iso image (extracted from the ORIGINAL Playstation disc with IsoBuster).
Would you believe that this problem is due to an incorrect conversion? Should I try converting the ISO with other tools??? I also tested the game on another PSP but it crashes exactly at the same point and in the same way!

I was thrilled by the idea of playing this great RPG on my PSP... but now luck is apparently showing me her back!

Any help/suggestion is appreciated... Thank you.

P.S. I also tried formatting flash1 setting within the recovery but nothing changed! Should I use any particual setup? Thanks again!

Baryl
08-19-2007, 11:32 PM
Where can I get the 3.51 pops? I can't find it anywhere!

manias
08-20-2007, 04:51 AM
I'm pleased to contirbute to this Chrono Cross thread...

I own a japanese PSP with M33 3.52-2. Well... I was really happy to read that this new GAME ID was finally allowing a crash-free gaming experience of Chrono Cross on our PSPs!
Unfortunately, despite having followed all the indications provided at the first post, Chrono Cross has crashed on my PSP after barely an hour into the game. It crashes precisely at Lizard Rock, during the fight with Mama Komodo... the boss that appears after succeding in the third fight to obtain the komodo scale. The game freezes always at the very same point, when I slash the Mama Komodo with a powerful attack, by which I start hitting her with a level-3 attack with 99% Hit probability. After this powerful series of attack, the PSP freezes...

As said before, I'm on the M33 3.52-2 so I have to use popsloader.prx to play Chrono Cross with 3.40 pops. On a side note, please also consider that the game crashes as usual at the status screen if I "popload" 3.51. It seems like 3.51 does not do the job at all for me... I can only use 3.40 and go past the issue with the status screen, but now the game keep freezing every time during the fight with Mama Komodo boss.

I used the original PSX2PSP v1.2 package to convert into .PBP my Chrono Cross iso image (extracted from the ORIGINAL Playstation disc with IsoBuster).
Would you believe that this problem is due to an incorrect conversion? Should I try converting the ISO with other tools??? I also tested the game on another PSP but it crashes exactly at the same point and in the same way!

I was thrilled by the idea of playing this great RPG on my PSP... but now luck is apparently showing me her back!

Any help/suggestion is appreciated... Thank you.

P.S. I also tried formatting flash1 setting within the recovery but nothing changed! Should I use any particual setup? Thanks again!

uhhhh did you read this thread? about the gameid code you have to use?

manias
08-20-2007, 04:52 AM
Where can I get the 3.51 pops? I can't find it anywhere!

try.. the.. zip/rarfile.. of.. 3.52m33-2 and 3 :P

Baryl
08-20-2007, 01:07 PM
I got the popsloader folder out of 3.52 M33#2 with the prx in it, but when I move it to seplugins it doesnt show up for activation, I know I'm doing something right because my cwcheat plugins show up and can be activated. And dont I need other files besides just the popsloader? Someone please help, I really wanna' play Chrono Cross. >.<

SHADOW-XIII
08-20-2007, 02:38 PM
EDIT game/pops/vhs.txt files !

manias
08-20-2007, 03:19 PM
I got the popsloader folder out of 3.52 M33#2 with the prx in it, but when I move it to seplugins it doesnt show up for activation, I know I'm doing something right because my cwcheat plugins show up and can be activated. And dont I need other files besides just the popsloader? Someone please help, I really wanna' play Chrono Cross. >.<

not just to seplugins.. move them into the popsloader folder in there and activate the popsloader plugin in recovery

Wuthoqquan
08-23-2007, 04:28 PM
uhhhh did you read this thread? about the gameid code you have to use?

uhhhh... did your read my post????!???


I own a japanese PSP with M33 3.52-2. Well... I was really happy to read that this new GAME ID was finally allowing a crash-free gaming experience of Chrono Cross on our PSPs!

Of course... I've read the whole thread indeed... and I've used the GameID indicated in the very first post of this discussion!!! Believe me... I'm not that stupid... :mad:

Cloudd_strife
08-23-2007, 04:42 PM
this works perfectly for teh ff8 too

lordfetta
08-23-2007, 05:01 PM
Iv'e got the same problem, followed the thread step by step. I used popstation GUI, and it always crashes when you kill that mama komodo thing.

Jinx13378
08-23-2007, 05:10 PM
Iv'e got the same problem, followed the thread step by step. I used popstation GUI, and it always crashes when you kill that mama komodo thing.

Check for common problems like using SLUS instead of SCUS.

Oh, and use 3.40 or 3.51 pops NOT 3.52


I just checked, and my game does not crash on komodo dragon.

edit:

May sound stupid, but make sure you click GO! after you change the ID in ZingaBurga's Gui, heh.

Wuthoqquan
08-23-2007, 05:43 PM
I've just checked and my Chrono Cross has the following code:
SLUS-01041/01080

And by the way... You have used ZingaBurga's Gui, whilst I've use PSX2PSP for the conversion! Could this be the real cause of this weird malfunction?
Also, can you specify which version of ZingaBurga's Gui you actually used?
Thanks again... Cheers!

P.S. Thinking about the original CD code (SLUS-01041) now I'm afraid I used the code SLUS 94640 for the conversion from ISO to PBP and not "SCUS", as written in your first post... I may have been caught in this confusion while reading the original code on the CD box... Could this be the REAL cause of my problems???

lordfetta
08-24-2007, 05:36 AM
well i'm stumped, iv'e tried about 8 times now, and it still locks up at the first boss battle. Sorry to ask you this Jinx13378, but could you post the steps you take after dumping the image? It's probably something i'm doing wrong. But heres what I do:

1.Patch the image with the disk changing patch
2.Load the image into popstation GUI 1.0
no custom pictures or sounds
Game ID: SCUS 94640
Game Name: Chrono Cross
Saved Games Title: Chrono Cross
3.convert, then copy to psp, then play, then lock up on the boss battle.
I have a Australian PSP with 3.52 M33-4, running popsloader 3.40.
And just to be sure, iv'e faked the region to America in recovery.

Is there anything i'm doing wrong?

lordfetta
08-24-2007, 05:52 AM
Just found this: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=41468
could this have something to do with the error?

lordfetta
08-24-2007, 08:37 AM
Found the problem, popstation GUI 1.0 doesn't let you change the save ID. Upgraded to 1.2 and now it works.

Jinx13378
08-24-2007, 08:41 AM
I've just checked and my Chrono Cross has the following code:
SLUS-01041/01080

And by the way... You have used ZingaBurga's Gui, whilst I've use PSX2PSP for the conversion! Could this be the real cause of this weird malfunction?
Also, can you specify which version of ZingaBurga's Gui you actually used?
Thanks again... Cheers!

P.S. Thinking about the original CD code (SLUS-01041) now I'm afraid I used the code SLUS 94640 for the conversion from ISO to PBP and not "SCUS", as written in your first post... I may have been caught in this confusion while reading the original code on the CD box... Could this be the REAL cause of my problems???

Yup, that might be it.

Some person already made that mistake and PMed earlier heh.

Jinx13378
08-24-2007, 08:41 AM
Found the problem, popstation GUI 1.0 doesn't let you change the save ID. Upgraded to 1.2 and now it works.

Happy for you mate!


Best wishes.

peltaforce
08-27-2007, 03:18 AM
Hey sorry to ask a noob question,while using the popsloader to convert,do we put a space when typing the numbers in,after choosing scus ? >.<:confused: And does the CC guide do anything or has anything related to your guide?

Wuthoqquan
08-27-2007, 06:30 AM
Yup, that might be it.

Some person already made that mistake and PMed earlier heh.

... and that was it!!! I correctly used the GameID SCUS94640 and now it works flawlessly!!! :D Thanks again for sharing this trick with everybody!

Note for peltaforce: just type the whole GameID (prefix and numbers) without spaces.

Onikage725
08-29-2007, 11:40 AM
Thanks alot for this fix!

I just want to confirm this working with that ID. I run 3.40OE, and I used ISObuster to convert my .img to .bin and Autopopstation4 to convert for PSP. All I had to do with Autopopstation4 was use the ID you suggested and it runs fine now. Previously I would crash at the first boss fight. There was actually a small skip right when the Komodo died, which hasn't happened with other boss battles. I wonder if the problem was just that first fight? I'm thinking of trying to use my save for this eboot load with my original one and see if there are further problems...

Anyway, thank you for the fix!

Jinx13378
08-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Thanks alot for this fix!

I just want to confirm this working with that ID. I run 3.40OE, and I used ISObuster to convert my .img to .bin and Autopopstation4 to convert for PSP. All I had to do with Autopopstation4 was use the ID you suggested and it runs fine now. Previously I would crash at the first boss fight. There was actually a small skip right when the Komodo died, which hasn't happened with other boss battles. I wonder if the problem was just that first fight? I'm thinking of trying to use my save for this eboot load with my original one and see if there are further problems...

Anyway, thank you for the fix!

Nope. The game crashed on boss fights using 3.40-3.51 without the fix. Not only komodo, every boss fight.
In 3.30 and 3.52 it crashes on STATUS menu and depending on how many characters you have - character join/change screens.

Onikage725
08-30-2007, 07:35 PM
How do ppl know it was every boss fight if noone could get past the first though? Was there another fix too?

Jinx13378
08-30-2007, 10:49 PM
How do ppl know it was every boss fight if noone could get past the first though? Was there another fix too?

I used to switch between 3.30 and 3.40 while trying to pass the game, therefore I know, heh.

There were also some others in the past which used to check this game with me. We did not try ID fixes though.

Onikage725
09-01-2007, 07:07 AM
Gotcha. Thank you for the info (and again for the fix).

blackrabite
09-24-2007, 12:35 AM
Anybody who updated to the new 3.71-m33 cfw mind checking the usual problems areas with this game ID to see how it plays?

irulethegalaxy
09-24-2007, 02:46 AM
Anybody who updated to the new 3.71-m33 cfw mind checking the usual problems areas with this game ID to see how it plays?

I am interested in this, too. And as to how it works with some of the other "fixer" game ids.

hhteam
09-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Anybody who updated to the new 3.71-m33 cfw mind checking the usual problems areas with this game ID to see how it plays?

Checked on psp slim 3.71-m33.
Org game id & game id SCUS94640 doesn't work with pops 3.71:mad: (status screen freeze - didn't try anything else )

I'm waiting for popsloader plugin for 3.71 .

irulethegalaxy
09-28-2007, 10:11 PM
Checked on psp slim 3.71-m33.
Org game id & game id SCUS94640 doesn't work with pops 3.71:mad: (status screen freeze - didn't try anything else )

I'm waiting for popsloader plugin for 3.71 .

This is interesting . . . I just tried the game with the original id. It was beautiful until I froze near (at?) the end of the Mama Komondo fight. So I tried SCUS94640. I was able to complete the fight and the status screen seems fine so far.

It'd be nice if a few other people tried the id and reported back results. So far, I am okay. If it does start having troubles, I'm willing to use a bit of my free time to try out an id or two at whatever stage I am on in the game (this is my first time playing--no spoilers, please!)

Edit: I will mention that going into the status screen does seem to fiddle with the brightness setting on the PSP. Maybe the person who froze is using that new brightness plugin?

FreePlay
09-29-2007, 01:27 AM
Because the pops emulator has a list of ID's sony has specified settings for.... false.

hhteam
09-29-2007, 10:40 PM
This is interesting . . . I just tried the game with the original id. It was beautiful until I froze near (at?) the end of the Mama Komondo fight. So I tried SCUS94640. I was able to complete the fight and the status screen seems fine so far.

It'd be nice if a few other people tried the id and reported back results. So far, I am okay. If it does start having troubles, I'm willing to use a bit of my free time to try out an id or two at whatever stage I am on in the game (this is my first time playing--no spoilers, please!)

Edit: I will mention that going into the status screen does seem to fiddle with the brightness setting on the PSP. Maybe the person who froze is using that new brightness plugin?

I don't use any plugin :( . Is your status screen fine on both org & modified id ? What is the brightness setting working for you ?

irulethegalaxy
09-30-2007, 12:02 AM
I don't use any plugin :( . Is your status screen fine on both org & modified id ? What is the brightness setting working for you ?

I am running on a slim at 3.71 m33. The status screen is fine with both the original and the "fixer" id in this topic. The original id froze at the end (?) of the mama komodo fight; the fixer one did not. I've had NO problems going in or out of the status screen, switching around equipment, elements, etc. What I was mentioning with the brightness level is that going into and out of the status screen seems to CHANGE my overall brightness setting for some reason. I've no idea what level it was at when I started playing; I doubt that's a factor.

I played for about an hour and a half, and I got (possible spoilers??????? Though she's on the cover of the game . . .) just past the point where the chick Kid (though I named her Tater--My female characters, if nameable, are always Tater and the males are Mush) joins the party.

I know this game has freezing issues on 3.52 pops . . . it seems okey dokey on 3.71 pops!

firaX
09-30-2007, 11:06 AM
The brightness change thing seems a weird bug or intention in sony psp slim. I have that for all playstation games, when i boot them, when i quit them, when i go to the home menu etc.

irulethegalaxy
10-01-2007, 02:04 AM
The brightness change thing seems a weird bug or intention in sony psp slim. I have that for all playstation games, when i boot them, when i quit them, when i go to the home menu etc.

Glad it's not just me :p . Seriously, it's such a minor thing . . . if it doesn't have any lockups at crucial, game killing moments I am more than happy to put up with the brightness thing. I am really liking this game (never played before), and I want to be able to play it all the way through. My husband has the tv tied up with Two Worlds, so . . . psp it is!

darksavior
10-04-2007, 01:03 AM
im on 3.71m33-2 Slim and the game froze at status with and without the original ID.

irulethegalaxy
10-04-2007, 03:51 AM
im on 3.71m33-2 Slim and the game froze at status with and without the original ID.

Weird. I still am having NO problems. Are you sure you have SCUS (not SLUS)? Maybe some kind of plug in conflict? Where (how far into the game--no spoilers, if possible--I'm on my first playthrough) are you freezing? Maybe it's location specific?

Jiggah
10-04-2007, 07:11 AM
The freezing problem is still there with the changed ID and 3.71m33 haven't tried it on v2 yet. Getting to the status screen is no problem, it's when you're viewing the models that cause the PSP to freeze.

Jinx13378
10-04-2007, 08:38 AM
That's the only reason why I have not upgraded to 3.71.

I need my precious, all-compatibile popsloader.

manias
10-04-2007, 09:03 AM
That's the only reason why I have not upgraded to 3.71.

I need my precious, all-compatibile popsloader.

that and 3.71 isn't really necessary so far :)

irulethegalaxy
10-04-2007, 11:25 AM
The freezing problem is still there with the changed ID and 3.71m33 haven't tried it on v2 yet. Getting to the status screen is no problem, it's when you're viewing the models that cause the PSP to freeze.

ROFL, okay, I finally get where the freezes are happening! I thought the status screen was the whole shebang with the menu . . . . I had never really used the STATUS screen before!. And yeppers, froze solid. But is the status screen really necessary? It seems like you can get all the info you need without bothering with that screen . . . Unless it has some other use I haven't come across yet?

mrgone
10-04-2007, 02:40 PM
ROFL, okay, I finally get where the freezes are happening! I thought the status screen was the whole shebang with the menu . . . . I had never really used the STATUS screen before!. And yeppers, froze solid. But is the status screen really necessary? It seems like you can get all the info you need without bothering with that screen . . . Unless it has some other use I haven't come across yet?

that is right, in some points in the game, items need to be used IIRC

irulethegalaxy
10-04-2007, 03:51 PM
that is right, in some points in the game, items need to be used IIRC

BUMMER :( . I was really enjoying this game, too. Guess maybe I'll start playing around with some of the other "fixer" ids to see what happens.

irulethegalaxy
10-07-2007, 05:50 PM
Just an update on this here:

I sat down this afternoon and tried out all of the 'fixer' ids that I know of. Every single one had the same result: the status screen froze up like a popsicle :(. Unless someone knows of another magic game id, we're gonna be without this one for a while. That is, unless you wanna try playing it without the status screen/items!

Jinx13378
10-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Just an update on this here:

I sat down this afternoon and tried out all of the 'fixer' ids that I know of. Every single one had the same result: the status screen froze up like a popsicle :(. Unless someone knows of another magic game id, we're gonna be without this one for a while. That is, unless you wanna try playing it without the status screen/items!

Sorry to hear that.
I have to dissapoint you though, it's going to freeze on you later on when you acquire a specific number of characters. It varies, but once you do it's also going to hang on PARTY CHANGE and PARTY JOIN screens.

No other option than just to wait for popsloader.

It's nice you tried all these ID though. Thanks for the up.

irulethegalaxy
10-07-2007, 08:17 PM
>Sorry to hear that.
I have to dissapoint you though, it's going to freeze on you later on when you acquire a specific number of characters. It varies, but once you do it's also going to hang on PARTY CHANGE and PARTY JOIN screens.
<

Pessimist! :p LOL. I actually found a list of game ids that are coded into pops; so I've been sitting here trying those out, as well. You never know. The SF3 id worked great for everything BUT the status screen, so maybe there's one that fixes that? It could happen!

Besides, I am really, really bored right now and this at least sort of feels . . . productive. It's pretty fast now that I've realized I can use popstation gui to change the id while it's on my PSP. Waiting for it to load onto my card every time was . . really boring.

mutilator
10-20-2007, 07:30 PM
So, any updates on playing this game with 3.71 M33-2? Is the status screen really necessary and does it still hang on the Party Change and Party Join screens even with different Game IDs?

Tumalu
10-21-2007, 08:42 AM
Man I am so glad yet so much confused because I am too new in this scene. I was already happy to flash my PSP to 3.52 M33-4. This works great and FFVIII gave me a crash fo far using the scan spell. Further it worked fine until now and I got a savegame outside balamb now. But I need some help with a few things. How to use CwCheat and how does it work I tried looking it up but I don't understand it. Also does this work under Firmware 3.52 M33-4 ? Or does the firmware not matter? I really want to play FF8 error-free too :p Hmmmmm do I have to make a new eboot from FF8 ? This is kinda new to me too I hear people say popstation and I have downloaded PSX2PSP 1.2 isn't this popstation I can do the same stuff here right? I just am confused what to use now and if I make a new FF8 Eboot with new ID will my old savegames work? This I need to test and need some help here :) Help a poor n00b who wants to know stuff a litle better too... and I can help out others later too... I will examine stuff later myself but first I want to know CwCheat, PSX2PSP and PopStation or whatever it is called... oh one more thing it is not related to this but I hope too someone would be gentle to say if there's any specific setting in ripping a PSX game. I have CloneCD and Alcohol 120% but any specific setting I need to use here? Hope some can answer all my questions because I don't know where to go since there are so many topics here and my head gets a bit crazy ;)

Linkzie
11-02-2007, 09:08 AM
Which save id are you supposed to use? Thx...

TrigunZero
11-04-2007, 05:01 AM
Which save id are you supposed to use? Thx...
lol am i still the only 1 playing this on 3.40?

Linkzie
11-04-2007, 06:51 AM
lol am i still the only 1 playing this on 3.40?

No am playing it on 3.40 as well, and well I used the same Save ID as Game ID, and i cleared the game yesterday!

Anyways I have yet another question... How are you suppose to play New Game+? If I load a yellow star save data with cd1 it just says "please insert disc 2", if I l do the same thing with cd2 I get to the screen where I can choose either New Game+ or Continue+, I choose New Game+ and the "please insert disc 1" thing comes up )=.

TrigunZero
11-04-2007, 08:15 PM
No am playing it on 3.40 as well, and well I used the same Save ID as Game ID, and i cleared the game yesterday!

Anyways I have yet another question... How are you suppose to play New Game+? If I load a yellow star save data with cd1 it just says "please insert disc 2", if I l do the same thing with cd2 I get to the screen where I can choose either New Game+ or Continue+, I choose New Game+ and the "please insert disc 1" thing comes up )=.

cwcheat? idk

Jinx13378
11-09-2007, 06:07 AM
The SF3 id worked great for everything BUT the status screen, so maybe there's one that fixes that? It could happen!

Huh? It does not on 3.40 or 3.51, heh.

zohar
11-09-2007, 12:30 PM
Someone please try to run the game using 3.72 and report if it works with/without the SF3 ID.

I can confirm that it DOES NOT work on 3.72 with the SF3 ID. Have to use popsloader set to 3.51 FW.

irulethegalaxy
11-09-2007, 01:47 PM
I can confirm that it DOES NOT work on 3.72 with the SF3 ID. Have to use popsloader set to 3.51 FW.

3.40 works, too. At least, it doesn't freeze at the status screen. That's all the more testing I had the energy for last night after setting up all those pops (still have a few more to do, too . . .). I'll see about getting as far as Mama Komodo tonight. But . . . it's our anniversary today, so I may not get around to it. The husband might object a little if I just whip out the PSP to play a video game!

Gackt
11-10-2007, 10:58 PM
Outstanding game ID !!! It is truly working without any crashes or lags :D
Many thanks to Jinx13378 !!!

lostn
11-11-2007, 10:12 PM
I have a small but annoying problem with the game running on 3.71-3 slim. Every time I go to the menu screen, the PSP's brightness level gets set to 3, and I have to turn it back down manually. Does anyone else have this problem? It's quite painful looking at it that bright.

keitaro
11-11-2007, 10:33 PM
i was wondering.. how do you do the disc change at the end of disc 1??

Gackt
11-11-2007, 11:41 PM
i was wondering.. how do you do the disc change at the end of disc 1??

This works great - http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=63194

irulethegalaxy
11-11-2007, 11:52 PM
I have a small but annoying problem with the game running on 3.71-3 slim. Every time I go to the menu screen, the PSP's brightness level gets set to 3, and I have to turn it back down manually. Does anyone else have this problem? It's quite painful looking at it that bright.

This particular bug is Sony property :). DA has stated that this is their fault, not his. Yeah, it's a little annoying to flip back and forth on the brightness, but still . . . Chrono Cross on PSP!

lostn
11-12-2007, 05:00 AM
I'm not saying that it's DA's fault, or that it wasn't Sony's. Heck, it may not even be new to 3.72 (that's the only version I've tested it on with the slim). But it only seems to happen in Chrono Cross of all that games I've tested.

I know the brightness change issue happens every time I launch a ps1 game on the slim, but I didn't know it could do that mid game as well.

keitaro
11-13-2007, 03:53 AM
This works great - http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=63194

i did the steps in the readme.. in the end my eboot could not be played.

Potato Judge
11-13-2007, 11:44 AM
I can get the game running without crashes using 3.51 pops on 3.71m33-3 FW, however there is a sound glitch that produces a constant grating sound once you get to the New Game/Continue screen. This isn't the case with 3.40 pops, but 3.40 seems to have noticable lag when loading menus and using elements, as well as some slightly distorted sound effects and thus I would prefer to use 3.51 pops. Has anyone else had this issue and fixed it?

bopit96
11-13-2007, 09:10 PM
I can get the game running without crashes using 3.51 pops on 3.71m33-3 FW, however there is a sound glitch that produces a constant grating sound once you get to the New Game/Continue screen. This isn't the case with 3.40 pops, but 3.40 seems to have noticable lag when loading menus and using elements, as well as some slightly distorted sound effects and thus I would prefer to use 3.51 pops. Has anyone else had this issue and fixed it?

absolutely same issue, and nope dont find any solutions, but pops 3.40 is not that bad :)

B2K24
11-15-2007, 02:54 PM
This is running GREAT on 3.51 POPS with the ID specified by the poster. only about an hour into it. Im not getting that sound issue people are commenting about.
Thanks ALOT.

Ammar
11-15-2007, 03:38 PM
This is running GREAT on 3.51 POPS with the ID specified by the poster. only about an hour into it. Im not getting that sound issue people are commenting about.
Thanks ALOT.

What firmware are you running? 3.71M33-3?

For thsoe of you who are having sound issues, try to convert the game using Dark Alex's new pops converter. As far as I know, this fixes the issue.

keitaro
11-16-2007, 01:18 AM
ok... i know this is a odd request...

i have yet to play till the part where i need to change my disc.. but sooner or later i will reach there.. i need help here... cos i can't seem to be able to make the disc change crack to work...

i need to ask if there are any kind person here that is willing to help me get pass the disc change with my safe file (which i will upload), then post it back here again for me to continue the game.

anyone?:)

Dark_Jose
11-24-2007, 07:45 AM
Very thanks for the info, Jinx! I'm on 3.71 M33-3, and with the GameID fix and using the 3.51 POPS, the game works PERFECTLY, without crashes, sounds problems, lags, etc.

lostn
11-25-2007, 07:39 AM
ok... i know this is a odd request...

i have yet to play till the part where i need to change my disc.. but sooner or later i will reach there.. i need help here... cos i can't seem to be able to make the disc change crack to work...

i need to ask if there are any kind person here that is willing to help me get pass the disc change with my safe file (which i will upload), then post it back here again for me to continue the game.

anyone?:)

I'm going to guess that you downloaded the iso somewhere, and it was patched in some way before it entered your hands. And I'll also guess that your original copy of the game discs have been scratched or lost.

The CRC of your iso doesn't match the one needed by the patch (ie. it has been tampered with). If you make your own iso off the original discs, it should work.


For thsoe of you who are having sound issues, try to convert the game using Dark Alex's new pops converter. As far as I know, this fixes the issue.

Dark Alex released a new pops converter? I never heard of this. What's it called?

PSP slim owner
11-26-2007, 07:52 PM
I have a small but annoying problem with the game running on 3.71-3 slim. Every time I go to the menu screen, the PSP's brightness level gets set to 3, and I have to turn it back down manually. Does anyone else have this problem? It's quite painful looking at it that bright.

It happened the same here, when I was playing Dino Crisis 1 and 2, but it didn´t happen when I played Resident Evil 2 using 3.52 pops and silent hill using 3.40 pops.

Blackpanda
11-27-2007, 01:10 AM
i think it's already been said from DA that it is sony fw thingy problem, for me it's fine since i play lowest brightness all the time

yuuzai
11-27-2007, 09:28 PM
this patch worked for me... but i have a problem, my copy of the image is an ISO... is there any disc-change patch for ISOs? renaming ISO to BIN doesn't work because their file structures are different...

mrgone
11-28-2007, 09:25 AM
this patch worked for me... but i have a problem, my copy of the image is an ISO... is there any disc-change patch for ISOs? renaming ISO to BIN doesn't work because their file structures are different...

bad luck, man
find yourself a proper bin rip

Bobman32x
12-03-2007, 02:08 AM
for the of you having sound issues turn the disk loading speed to NORMAL. this happend to me too, but turning it from fast to normal stopped it.

And this works great. It kept freezing for me against fate and i got by just time. though it did freeze just now when i beat the time devourer during the following FMV midway through. Ill just skip the FMV if i can, if not i hope itll get past this time:P

noized
12-08-2007, 01:37 PM
I have 3.52-m33 cf and I don't seems to have any problem changing character using the teleporter. Will the issue occur when I pick up a certain amount of character? I have like 10 and have no problem so far switching between them.
I do have problem at the status screen but its useless, so its all good for me and i'm almost at the end of disc1.

swkdild0
12-08-2007, 09:20 PM
so none of the popsloader works 100%?? If u don't wanna crash on boss fight 3.40, if you dont wanna crash on status 3.51???

lostn
12-10-2007, 10:39 AM
Use the ID from the first post and it will run fine on 3.51. No crash on status screen or boss fights. I am playing it right now. It even runs faster in termina than it did on PS1, which I remember had noticeable slowdown.

swkdild0
12-12-2007, 12:37 AM
so 3.40 pops wont work 100%??

tendoboy101
12-12-2007, 03:37 AM
So I'll be putting this on my psp as soon as I get my hands on one after finals. I'm new to the cfw scene, but I'm looking to use the totalnewbi installer and update to 3.71 m33-3. I have the necessary files jinx mentioned. So what i'm hearing is that if I run this in 3.51 with that game ID and the sound set to normal I'll play just fine with no glitches? Or will i still freeze once I get a certain number of party members?

Gackt
12-12-2007, 04:07 AM
I have cleared the game 2 times on 3.71 M33-3, using popsloader with 3.40 pops and game id SCUS 94640. I can asure that there are no crashes, freezes or glitches at all. It's working perfectly.

tendoboy101
12-12-2007, 04:11 AM
I have cleared the game 2 times on 3.71 M33-3, using popsloader with 3.40 pops and game id SCUS 94640. I can asure that there are no crashes, freezes or glitches at all. It's working perfectly.

Fantastic! Can't wait to have this classic portable.

As an aside real quick, what is a good free tool to convert the original discs to bin files so I can apply the patch, as I read the patch only works on .bin files?

Gackt
12-12-2007, 05:48 PM
Iso Buster is working great.

tendoboy101
12-13-2007, 07:39 PM
Iso Buster is working great.

Now I just need to find a PSP Daxter pack...holy ****...I had no idea the sales had picked up so much. All retails in 25 miles around me are out. I'm upset that I can't find one, but glad that the system is picking up.

manias
12-14-2007, 04:51 AM
Iso Buster is working great.

for games with cdaudio use alcohol120% using the psx setting and clonecd. But chronocross doesn't have that so it's fine with isobuster.

spacewiz
12-14-2007, 08:00 PM
with the new popstation_md do you still need the disc change patch?

battosai121
12-14-2007, 08:42 PM
you cant use cc with popsloader_md only works with 3.40-3.51 and the new popsloader is for 3.71 on

Dark_Jose
12-16-2007, 01:50 PM
Confirmed: i've just completed the game with the 3.51 POPS and the GameID SCUS94640, and ALL has worked perfectly: no crashes, no lags, no bugs, NOTHING strange.

lostn
12-16-2007, 06:13 PM
Umm, that's pretty much what the first guy said at the beginning of this thread 10 pages ago... Thanks though.

I did notice occasional slight pauses during battles, especially when casting a spell. The music would drag for a second. However, I'm not sure if this didn't happen on the PS1 also. Perhaps it did. I can't be bothered finding out, because it doesn't bother me that much.

tendoboy101
12-16-2007, 07:21 PM
Just installed 3.71 m33-3 cfw. If I upgrade to m33-4 can i still run previous versions of pops for Chrono cross and apply the patch?

Gcentrex
12-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Just installed 3.71 m33-3 cfw. If I upgrade to m33-4 can i still run previous versions of pops for Chrono cross and apply the patch?

Just use the new pops loader and the pops files then load up the required version of pops for the game, the other people are wanting to use the new 3.71/3.72 pops for the multi disk ability.

tendoboy101
12-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Just use the new pops loader and the pops files then load up the required version of pops for the game, the other people are wanting to use the new 3.71/3.72 pops for the multi disk ability.

Ah ok, So I can still apply the patch and run it in a previous firmware?

Gcentrex
12-16-2007, 07:34 PM
Ah ok, So I can still apply the patch and run it in a previous firmware?

Yes or from within 3.71 using the new pops loader thats included with M33-4 Patch for 3.71

cloud7
12-17-2007, 04:04 AM
Er,im using the multi-disk popstation gui v1.0,combining both CC disc 1 and 2 into 1 Eboot with the SCUS94640 code. will this fix the lag,crashes and oso fix the disc change part ?

Gcentrex
12-17-2007, 06:39 AM
Er,im using the multi-disk popstation gui v1.0,combining both CC disc 1 and 2 into 1 Eboot with the SCUS94640 code. will this fix the lag,crashes and oso fix the disc change part ?

Read the first page its simple.

Futrus
12-17-2007, 07:04 PM
the game didn't work i made the eboot by multi disk popstation , and i used pop loader 3.40 but i got error ca000005 , i putted key.bin but i got error 80000004.
i use 3.71-4 m33 !

Tobytl
12-17-2007, 10:54 PM
the game didn't work i made the eboot by multi disk popstation , and i used pop loader 3.40 but i got error ca000005 , i putted key.bin but i got error 80000004.
i use 3.71-4 m33 !

From 3.71m33-4 readme file: "Note: multi disc games will only work in 3.71 and 3.72 pops. Previous pops will exit to the xmb with generic error 0x80000004 when attempting to run multidisc games."

tendoboy101
12-18-2007, 03:45 PM
Is it necessary to have both chrono cross discs on the memory stick? Or can I have just one disc at a time?

manias
12-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Is it necessary to have both chrono cross discs on the memory stick? Or can I have just one disc at a time?

do a search on how ppl played it before the multi-pops

tendoboy101
12-18-2007, 07:04 PM
do a search on how ppl played it before the multi-pops

No, not disc switching. But can I play through disc 1, save using the patch, delete the disc off my memory card, then put the second disc on the memory card to save space.

Gcentrex
12-19-2007, 01:57 AM
No, not disc switching. But can I play through disc 1, save using the patch, delete the disc off my memory card, then put the second disc on the memory card to save space.

Yes as long as the first disk has had the save patch applied to it then thats no problem.

tendoboy101
12-19-2007, 02:13 AM
Yes as long as the first disk has had the save patch applied to it then thats no problem.

One last question, the patch only affects the .bin, but using popstation gui it only asks for the image file. Will the patch still be active when the eboot is made?

Gcentrex
12-19-2007, 02:27 AM
One last question, the patch only affects the .bin, but using popstation gui it only asks for the image file. Will the patch still be active when the eboot is made?

I don't use any of those GUI systems but I do know popstation.exe takes most image formats so the GUI will also do so, if it does not show the file when looking type in *.* to show all files and all file types then select it anyway.

Plus you apply the patch the bin file first then make the eboot for the psp with the resulting .bin, all this is straight forward.

tendoboy101
12-19-2007, 02:59 AM
I don't use any of those GUI systems but I do know popstation.exe takes most image formats so the GUI will also do so, if it does not show the file when looking type in *.* to show all files and all file types then select it anyway.

Plus you apply the patch the bin file first then make the eboot for the psp with the resulting .bin, all this is straight forward.

Ok, so even though the bin file is what is patched, the eboot is made from the bin and image file? Good deal.

manias
12-19-2007, 03:00 AM
Ok, so even though the bin file is what is patched, the eboot is made from the bin and image file? Good deal.

the .bin is the image of the disc so yeah patch that and create the eboot from it.

2diao
12-20-2007, 11:51 PM
for some reason the game wont start for me.
my psp says this when i try to load the game.

"the game could not be started. (80000004)"

I know i didn't do anything wrong coz i've created the same eboot several times and i keep getting the same message.

the first thing i did was use magiciso to get an .bin file from my chrono cross game. Then i ran the patch for the disk one save game by putting the game in the same folder as the patch.
I then created the eboot from the .bin file with the game ID SCUS 94640.

im running on 3.40 OE.

can someone please tell me what to do. I really want to play this game.

Mewtask
12-21-2007, 08:26 AM
Hello, i got my hands on a Chrono cross Eboot.pbp file supposedly it should work. But it still freezes on the Status/komodo boss. And since i cant understand whats wrong and how to fix it :) Anyone care to enlighten me please ?

I have some asian psp with firmware 3.71m33-4. I dont understand what popsloader is or how it works :)

thanks for the halp:]

Rion
12-22-2007, 05:51 AM
Hello, i got my hands on a Chrono cross Eboot.pbp file supposedly it should work. But it still freezes on the Status/komodo boss. And since i cant understand whats wrong and how to fix it :) Anyone care to enlighten me please ?

I have some asian psp with firmware 3.71m33-4. I dont understand what popsloader is or how it works :)

thanks for the halp:]


Same here.
How in the world do you change what pops version i want to start the game with?

robowns
12-22-2007, 11:11 AM
could anyone upload the files they get from decrypting 3.71 firmware, would be a huge help i cant get psar dumper to work

swkdild0
12-23-2007, 02:13 AM
why do i still crash at komodo mama using both 340 and 351 eboot i dont get it

lostn
12-25-2007, 09:14 AM
Because you aren't using the correct game ID. You need to use the correct ID (which you can get by reading this thread entirely) PLUS the correct pops version, which in this case should be 3.51. And you also need the disc swap patch for disc 1, in order to get past disc swapping.

It's a lot more convenient to have that even if you never get that far, if you play NG+ mode. To load your final save game and start NG+, the game stupidly asks for disc 2, and then immediately asks for disc 1 again. The patch removes disc checking on disc 1, so it will never ask for disc 2, and you can avoid the double swap.

TrigunZero
12-27-2007, 05:52 PM
you shouldn't have problems on 3.40 if you use the right code and the disc change patch. i know because i beat the game a week ago and i'm playing through it again.

zo110
12-30-2007, 01:47 AM
if someone could please help me with this, I have been trying for hours to figure out what the problem is after going through this thread a million times.

So i have followed all instructions exactly. I have FW 3.71 m33-4 with the latest POPS 3.72. I loaded the game and then it gave me the option of which firmware to select. Obviously, I selected 3.40, but it just froze right there. Then I tried 3.51 and it also just froze right at the firmware selection screen. I tried them all and the only one that is different is the "original flash version" and it gives me the 8000004 error which was why i downloaded the latest pops to begin with. If any can help me out on this, I would really appreciate it.

Jinx13378
12-30-2007, 11:24 AM
if someone could please help me with this, I have been trying for hours to figure out what the problem is after going through this thread a million times.

So i have followed all instructions exactly. I have FW 3.71 m33-4 with the latest POPS 3.72. I loaded the game and then it gave me the option of which firmware to select. Obviously, I selected 3.40, but it just froze right there. Then I tried 3.51 and it also just froze right at the firmware selection screen. I tried them all and the only one that is different is the "original flash version" and it gives me the 8000004 error which was why i downloaded the latest pops to begin with. If any can help me out on this, I would really appreciate it.

Did you put the appropriate POPS files in popsloader directory?
You know, along with the plugin itself?

Seems like you only fired up the plugin, without the neccesary FLASH0 files.

buhaoyise
12-30-2007, 11:33 AM
I'm desperate to get Chrono Cross working on my new psp slim too. I just upgraded to 3.71 m33-4 with the universal popsloader (try finding a tutorial for the popsloader if you want to put your google skills to the test).

The game was working okay with 3.71 m33, but kept freezing at the status screen and at the Komodo dragon boss, which is what lead me to update to 3.71 m33-4 and the universal popsloader. I've got the same problem as the bloke below though, whereby the psp freezes at the pops selection menu for all selections, unless I choose "original flash from flash", (which I presume is 3.71).

Anyhow, I'm going to obtain a the multidisk eboot through alternative means and see how that works (starts with 't' and rhymes with 'borrents'). Anybody have any experience with the multidisk eboot of Chrono Cross yet?

On a side note - I just got my PSP a couple days ago and it's interesting to read the forums surrounding the product. The very fact that all of the hacks and such are referred to as 'homebrew' is kind of funny because we all know what it's for. If you look at the terminology surrounding roms and emulators people are much more open about their actions.

DUCK OFF AND LIE CONY SORPORATION!!!!! - from a happy abuser of your products in the bastion of intellectual property rights known as the People's Republic of China.

buhaoyise
12-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Say what? Forgot to what the what flash in the what what? That sounds like me too. Care to point me in the right direction to right this terrible wrong?

Thanks for the guide too Mr. Jinx.

By the way, great thread title. I was googling all over the place until I came across this thread and I was like BOOYAH when I saw it because it was exactly what I was looking for. Long live the descriptive and accurate thread title, for she makes all our lives a tad bit easier!!!

zo110
12-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Did you put the appropriate POPS files in popsloader directory?
You know, along with the plugin itself?

Seems like you only fired up the plugin, without the neccesary FLASH0 files.

alright, so I did not do that and then i searched and was able to come up with the prx files for all the firmwares including 3.4 and 3.51. Now when i load the game and go to the firmware selection screen, it does not freeze anymore but instead goes to the generic 80000004 error screen. I tried both 3.4 and 3.51. I have made sure the plugins are enabled, and I have repeatedly applied the dark alex 3.71M33-4 popsloader patch. The eboot is not multi-disc, and I have applied the cd change patch as well. I feel like I am really close to getting it, so if i could just get a little more help, I would really appreciate it. thanks for all the help.

Jinx13378
12-30-2007, 05:46 PM
Say what? Forgot to what the what flash in the what what? That sounds like me too. Care to point me in the right direction to right this terrible wrong?

Thanks for the guide too Mr. Jinx.

By the way, great thread title. I was googling all over the place until I came across this thread and I was like BOOYAH when I saw it because it was exactly what I was looking for. Long live the descriptive and accurate thread title, for she makes all our lives a tad bit easier!!!

No problem at all. I was glad to help.

The only direction I can point you to is finding all the appropriate prx files from previous firmwares.
Easiest way for you would be to try psp-hacks.com forums, hacks&cracks section.
Look for popsloader pack or something along these lines. They provide full archive with all the files needed.

Jinx13378
12-30-2007, 05:48 PM
alright, so I did not do that and then i searched and was able to come up with the prx files for all the firmwares including 3.4 and 3.51. Now when i load the game and go to the firmware selection screen, it does not freeze anymore but instead goes to the generic 80000004 error screen. I tried both 3.4 and 3.51. I have made sure the plugins are enabled, and I have repeatedly applied the dark alex 3.71M33-4 popsloader patch. The eboot is not multi-disc, and I have applied the cd change patch as well. I feel like I am really close to getting it, so if i could just get a little more help, I would really appreciate it. thanks for all the help.

The problem might be that once you fired up the game using 3.71M33-4 (*from flash option in popsloader*) the game automatically created a SAVEDATA folder.
It is incompatibile with older pops, hence the error screen.

Just delete the SAVEDATA created, either manually or using your PSP (XMB -> GAME -> SAVEDATA -> *look for Chrono Cross* -> triangle -> delete).


Good luck and Happy New Year everyone!

zo110
12-30-2007, 07:10 PM
The problem might be that once you fired up the game using 3.71M33-4 (*from flash option in popsloader*) the game automatically created a SAVEDATA folder.
It is incompatibile with older pops, hence the error screen.

Just delete the SAVEDATA created, either manually or using your PSP (XMB -> GAME -> SAVEDATA -> *look for Chrono Cross* -> triangle -> delete).


Good luck and Happy New Year everyone!

Happy New Year to you too, and thanks for all the help. OK, we are really close, as I have made some serious progress. So I looked for the savedata as you said, and it was indeed there. So I deleted it and tried again but as usual, no luck. Then I started to think back a bit to try to figure out the problem. And then i remembered that i first tried the game without the SCUS 94640 game ID and it worked fine but it just kept crashing as everyone already knows. so then i thought, maybe lets try again with the old game ID, just to see if it loads. and sure enough, i tried SLUS01041 game ID and the game loads now actually. but again, whats the point, as it will just continue to crash. So now I am wondering, what am I doing wrong when i name the game SCUS 94640? I change both the game ID and savedata ID. I don't do anything differently really besides changing the name. Any ideas?

buhaoyise
12-31-2007, 12:15 AM
Booyah!!!

I got the complete 3.XX popsloader from here (http://pspslimhacks.com/complete-3xx-popsloader/) and now Chrono Cross works when I select 3.40 from the menu at game start-up. Sweet! I haven't had a chance to test it out much, but the game does not freeze at the stats menu, which is apparently a very common problem related to this game.

By the way I didn't change the game ID, whatever that means. There has been a lot of talk about that in this thread but I can't see how one would go about doing it. If someone would care to enlighten, please use the assumption that the original PSX discs have been misplace and that the EBOOT file has been obtained through alternative means.

Just for reference:

PSPslim running 3.71 m33-4 with the attached complete 3.XX popsloader. Having now installed this I don't know if it negates the bugfix I got from Dark Alex's website, but it doesn't really matter because it's a minor issue.

Again, kudos to Jinx for the help.

Jinx13378
12-31-2007, 01:40 PM
Booyah!!!

I got the complete 3.XX popsloader from here (http://pspslimhacks.com/complete-3xx-popsloader/) and now Chrono Cross works when I select 3.40 from the menu at game start-up. Sweet! I haven't had a chance to test it out much, but the game does not freeze at the stats menu, which is apparently a very common problem related to this game.

By the way I didn't change the game ID, whatever that means. There has been a lot of talk about that in this thread but I can't see how one would go about doing it. If someone would care to enlighten, please use the assumption that the original PSX discs have been misplace and that the EBOOT file has been obtained through alternative means.

Just for reference:

PSPslim running 3.71 m33-4 with the attached complete 3.XX popsloader. Having now installed this I don't know if it negates the bugfix I got from Dark Alex's website, but it doesn't really matter because it's a minor issue.

Again, kudos to Jinx for the help.

Very good buhaoyise.
I recommend you change the gameid using ZingaBurga's software or GAMEIDChanger. I think they were both mentioned and linked to somewhere in this thread. If you remain on the default ID, it is going to crash on the boss fights.


Happy New Year to you too, and thanks for all the help. OK, we are really close, as I have made some serious progress. So I looked for the savedata as you said, and it was indeed there. So I deleted it and tried again but as usual, no luck. Then I started to think back a bit to try to figure out the problem. And then i remembered that i first tried the game without the SCUS 94640 game ID and it worked fine but it just kept crashing as everyone already knows. so then i thought, maybe lets try again with the old game ID, just to see if it loads. and sure enough, i tried SLUS01041 game ID and the game loads now actually. but again, whats the point, as it will just continue to crash. So now I am wondering, what am I doing wrong when i name the game SCUS 94640? I change both the game ID and savedata ID. I don't do anything differently really besides changing the name. Any ideas?

I am pretty sure you missed a savedata friend. Try going into USB mode and looking for the directory SCUS94640 in your SAVEDATA folder then deleting it.
Delete every Chrono Cross savedata you can find just to be sure.

zo110
12-31-2007, 04:12 PM
Very good buhaoyise.
I recommend you change the gameid using ZingaBurga's software or GAMEIDChanger. I think they were both mentioned and linked to somewhere in this thread. If you remain on the default ID, it is going to crash on the boss fights.



I am pretty sure you missed a savedata friend. Try going into USB mode and looking for the directory SCUS94640 in your SAVEDATA folder then deleting it.
Delete every Chrono Cross savedata you can find just to be sure.

Well, I finally fixed it, and it came with a little help from buhaoyise and jinx. So I first backed up all my savedata and then deleted it all from the PSP to make sure there wasnt any savedata I was missing. That still didnt work. So I formatted the stick again and put in the prx files that buhaoyise linked to and it still didnt work. so then finally i saw this zingaburga software that jinx recommended and figured i would give it a try. i had been previously using the old PSX2PSP v1.2 software for my converting. So I tried this program and changed the game ID and bingo, it finally loaded up. So it was the software that was messing it up the whole time. Thanks to jinx a bunch for helping me out, and also buhaoyise for the assist.

buhaoyise
01-01-2008, 05:19 AM
Just a note, I got ahold of the single eboot multidisc version of Chrono Cross and I couldn't get it working on my 3.71 m33-4 firmware. I checked out some comments on the particular torrent I was using and it seems that the few people who have downloaded it haven't been able to get it working either.

In any case, I've been playing for close to 10 hours now using the settings suggested by Jinx (3.71 m33-4 with the universal popsloader set to 3.40 and the game ID changed to SCUS 94640). The game runs flawlessly.

To change the game ID I used GAMEIDchanger (google it if you need it) and that works really well. According to the readme there are several ways to make the program work, but I couldn't get it to work from the prompt so I copied the program directly onto the PSP and just dragged and dropped the eboot onto the GAMEIDchanger.exe file. That works really swell.

By the way, what an awesome game!!!! I remember how much I loved this game when I played it way back on the PSX. It looks incredible on the PSP too.

Happy New Year to you all by the way. I started my 2008 with a hungover 10 hour session of Chrono Cross thanks to Jinx's tips!

Mexicanmade
01-04-2008, 02:12 AM
Just a heads up, the syphon filter id for chrono cross also works on 3.72 pops with popsloader

battosai121
01-04-2008, 06:16 PM
damn it really does, just got past the mama kommodo and the status screen doesn't freeze up either, thanks for pointing it out mexicanmade! I can finally play through on a single eboot :D

Mexicanmade
01-04-2008, 10:12 PM
I tested everything and yea it works.

also i forgot to thank jinx for finding it out. Thanks alot

Jinx13378
01-04-2008, 11:03 PM
Hey guys!

Sorry for taking so long to respond, I've had a 3 day recovery after the New Year's Eve, heh.


I'm really glad you have this sorted out Boohayoise and Zoo.

Enjoy this amazing rpg everyone.



(God, how I miss SNES and PSX era.)

filozof
01-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Just a heads up, the syphon filter id for chrono cross also works on 3.72 pops with popsloader
Single Multidisc EBOOT doesn't work for me on 3.72 pops. Just like the other ones, I'm getting black screen.

So as far as I know, this is what happens. You can play the game with seperate EBOOTS but you won't be able to change the disc. You can create a Multidisc Eboot, but the game only works on pops 3.40 and you must use 3.71 in order to use the multidisc function. That means it's a dead end. I guess I'll wait for the 3.80 since it should be out really soon.

Mexicanmade
01-05-2008, 01:48 AM
Single Multidisc EBOOT doesn't work for me on 3.72 pops. Just like the other ones, I'm getting black screen.

So as far as I know, this is what happens. You can play the game with seperate EBOOTS but you won't be able to change the disc. You can create a Multidisc Eboot, but the game only works on pops 3.40 and you must use 3.71 in order to use the multidisc function. That means it's a dead end. I guess I'll wait for the 3.80 since it should be out really soon.You probably converted the game wrong or you might have bad a bad copy of the game, because like i said i tested everything and the game works fine

akadewboy
01-05-2008, 06:09 AM
Wow it is true, SCUS-94640 does work on 3.72 pops! I haven't got very far (only past Mama Komodo), so hopefully it doesn't freeze later in the game.

On a side note I wonder if anyone has tried this GameID on Final Fantasy 8 with 3.72.

filozof
01-05-2008, 04:04 PM
You probably converted the game wrong or you might have bad a bad copy of the game, because like i said i tested everything and the game works fine
Are you sure you're using a multidisc Eboot? I've tried everything but it doesn't work on 3.72 pops. You're probably just running the 1st disc, converted to the Eboot, not a multidisc. And I'm pretty sure it's not the copy..

battosai121
01-05-2008, 04:29 PM
Are you sure you're using a multidisc Eboot? I've tried everything but it doesn't work on 3.72 pops. You're probably just running the 1st disc, converted to the Eboot, not a multidisc. And I'm pretty sure it's not the copy..

I made a multidisk eboot, it works fine, I built the source code on ubuntu for multidisk_md though... either way it works perfectly

filozof
01-05-2008, 05:33 PM
I don't know what you guys are doing, but it still doesn't work one me. I've downloaded a different copy but the results are the same..

Mexicanmade
01-05-2008, 06:47 PM
I used the popstation md.exe with the command line. make sure you don't use a cheap GUI

filozof
01-05-2008, 09:24 PM
That's what I'm doing. It just doesn't work :( I've wasted awful lot of time on this today. I'm pretty damn sure that everything is in the right place. 3.72 Pops works with other single Eboot games like SOtM, but doesn't work with multidisk games.

EDIT: Only one possible explanation left about this. I guess it's the Vista that's messing up with my Eboots. Are you guys using XP or Vista ? But the thing is, the games work on 3.71 pops which is in the firmware itself.

Mexicanmade
01-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Here is what to put in the command line(its how i wrote it)

"Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" SCUS94640 SCUS94640 SCUS94640 1 1 cc1.img cc2.img

btw im also using vista so thats not the problem

filozof
01-05-2008, 11:51 PM
Here is what to put in the command line(its how i wrote it)

"Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" SCUS94640 SCUS94640 SCUS94640 1 1 cc1.img cc2.img

btw im also using vista so thats not the problemTried again. Doesn't seem to work. Am I missing something here? I've been doing the same exact thing since morning. What's the original game id of your Chrono Cross img, before you change it. Is it 10410?

Mexicanmade
01-06-2008, 12:28 AM
My original id's are Chrono Cross disc 1 SLUS01041 Chrono Cross Disc 2 SLUS01080

also i think you should redownload popstation md because something might be wrong there

akadewboy
01-06-2008, 02:35 AM
I'm running vista. I used Alcohol 52% to rip the CD as a CloneCD img. Then I used popstation_md.exe to convert the two *.img's into one eboot.

http://www.free-downloads.net/programs/Alcohol_52__Free_Edition

filozof
01-06-2008, 03:40 AM
YES !!! FINALLY !!! F*CK !!!!! Sorry that you had to put up with me guys. I was doing everything right since the beginning. There was no problem while creating the EBOOT. Appearantly, when I updated the M33-3 to M33-4, I didn't replace the "popsloader.prx" with the new one that comes in the update. I realised that the file sizes were actually different. I replaced the old one with the new and it worked just fine. Hope this will be helpful for other people, or maybe I was just too stupid :D

I've spent like 12 hours on this today and I'm glad that it's working. The status screen is working just fine. Finally I'll be able to play this mother !!! Thanks a lot guys for your help.

reech
01-06-2008, 08:43 AM
Great help for me as well; I'm updated to M33-4, followed the discussion, and made sure things were working.

As a UK guy, I've always told people to try Chrono Cross; I got my PSX chipped just so I could play it - because it was never released here. With my PSX dying ages ago, and not bothering to get my PS2 chipped, my Chrono discs have just been sitting there gathering dust.

I've been emitting happy noises for the last 30 minutes as I've gone a little way into the game - I got to read my manuals to remember the Element Combat system ;)

So, in a completely platonic and hetrosexual way, I'll give major man-love to everyone who has helped out in this thread ;)

(PS - the only problem I encountered (I used the multi disc eboot) was the same as chap above; I didn't uploade popsloader.prx to the seplugins directory - yeah, I did all the prxs, but not THAT file!)

((PPS - I lied. I forgot to put my HS2 generated keys.bin there as well *sighs*)

irulethegalaxy
01-06-2008, 03:46 PM
Okay, I've not been reading this thread, but. .

Y'all are getting CC to work with the multi-disk stuff? 3.72 pops with the same is listed in the first post? HOW?? Cause I just tried my disc one eboot (single disc) with that on 3.72 and it froze at the status screen as usual :(.


EDIT: OH. MY. GOD.

It's true. I just pulled out the multi-disc eboot I made for this game a while back (with the id in the original post) "just in case" a future pops fixed it. I popped it onto my memory card and it WORKED. I didn't really play, but I did go into it far enough to see that the status screen DOES. NOT. FREEZE. :D :D :D. I'll try to play through to Mama Komodo later on to see how that goes.

*dances*

FYI, I made my eboot with the RS Gui and had an icon on there, too. So it's okay to use the gui if you are like me and incompetent at running the popstation_md.

OH. MY. GOD!

Chrono Cross and chinese food for lunch, all in one day. How much better can it get?

EDIT (again): Blew through Mama without a hitch. Boys and girls, this is huge. Really, this probably deserves its own thread, as no one is reading this one much anymore.

Now, I wonder *why* this works with the multi-disc but not with a single disc (id+pops, I mean)? Some sort of D_A magic? :eek:

robowns
01-07-2008, 06:03 PM
i really want to play chrono cross, could anyone tell me where i can get the 3.72 .prx files from? I cant get psar dumper to even run.

akadewboy
01-07-2008, 06:14 PM
i really want to play chrono cross, could anyone tell me where i can get the 3.72 .prx files from? I cant get psar dumper to even run.

Download PsarDumper from Dark Alex's website (http://dark-alex.org/index.php?Dark_Alex=m33). Put it in your GAME371 folder. Download the 3.72 update from psp-hacks.com and put it on your memory stick. Now run PsarDumper.

Jinx13378
01-07-2008, 07:17 PM
YES !!! FINALLY !!! F*CK !!!!! Sorry that you had to put up with me guys. I was doing everything right since the beginning. There was no problem while creating the EBOOT. Appearantly, when I updated the M33-3 to M33-4, I didn't replace the "popsloader.prx" with the new one that comes in the update. I realised that the file sizes were actually different. I replaced the old one with the new and it worked just fine. Hope this will be helpful for other people, or maybe I was just too stupid :D

I've spent like 12 hours on this today and I'm glad that it's working. The status screen is working just fine. Finally I'll be able to play this mother !!! Thanks a lot guys for your help.

Hey filozof!

You Polish by any chance? If so, then "witam rodaka, heh!".

Jinx13378
01-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Okay, I've not been reading this thread, but. .

Y'all are getting CC to work with the multi-disk stuff? 3.72 pops with the same is listed in the first post? HOW?? Cause I just tried my disc one eboot (single disc) with that on 3.72 and it froze at the status screen as usual :(.


EDIT: OH. MY. GOD.

It's true. I just pulled out the multi-disc eboot I made for this game a while back (with the id in the original post) "just in case" a future pops fixed it. I popped it onto my memory card and it WORKED. I didn't really play, but I did go into it far enough to see that the status screen DOES. NOT. FREEZE. :D :D :D. I'll try to play through to Mama Komodo later on to see how that goes.

*dances*

FYI, I made my eboot with the RS Gui and had an icon on there, too. So it's okay to use the gui if you are like me and incompetent at running the popstation_md.

OH. MY. GOD!

Chrono Cross and chinese food for lunch, all in one day. How much better can it get?

EDIT (again): Blew through Mama without a hitch. Boys and girls, this is huge. Really, this probably deserves its own thread, as no one is reading this one much anymore.

Now, I wonder *why* this works with the multi-disc but not with a single disc (id+pops, I mean)? Some sort of D_A magic? :eek:

I'll test it out and update the front-page tommorow.
I am too damn sleepy to do it now, heh.

So what you mean is, that a multi-eboot works on 3.72 on STOCK ID, whereas it does not when SF3 ID is used?

Making another thread for this finding would be a good idea as well.

irulethegalaxy
01-07-2008, 07:58 PM
I'll test it out and update the front-page tommorow.
I am too damn sleepy to do it now, heh.

So what you mean is, that a multi-eboot works on 3.72 on STOCK ID, whereas it does not when SF3 ID is used?

Making another thread for this finding would be a good idea as well.

I used the Siphon Filter one, the SCUS 946 etc one, not the default Chrono Cross id.

So, Chrono Cross + SF3 game id + multidisc pops + RSGui (to make the eboot)= WORKING.

yykcctdq
01-09-2008, 08:34 AM
I used the Siphon Filter one, the SCUS 946 etc one, not the default Chrono Cross id.

So, Chrono Cross + SF3 game id + multidisc pops + RSGui (to make the eboot)= WORKING.

Chrono Cross + SF3 game id + multidisc pops + RSGui (to make the eboot)≈ WORKING

because using this method i can enter the status interface with no freeze, & also use square button in world map, just some lags in battle.

but when i used serge's lv7 skill, the program (the game) stopped, & also when i battled with the boss of dead sea (in which there are three islands - future, past & present) till boss's hp = 0, game stopped... the only thing i can do is press HOME to quit game...

the issues above occured since disc2 change, & in disc2 i could not enter the status interface.

i don't know if this is a special case?

sorry for my poor english :)

irulethegalaxy
01-09-2008, 01:33 PM
Hmm. I've not played that far (in fact, just barely started . . . and it's my first playthrough). Can you upload your save here and maybe someone can try it out to confirm?

Again, I think maybe the multi-disc fix should probably have a new thread . . .


EDIT: Does anyone know if the above posters' issues show up on disc 2 when NOT using the multidisc eboot? So, I am wondering if these are NEW Single eboot problems or OLD, multi eboot problems.

Mexicanmade
01-09-2008, 09:58 PM
My god man, I've already tested everything from all elements to all areas where it crashed and it all works. I've beat the game already and now I'm where serge turns to lynx and i haven't had a single problem with the SF3 game ID.

Ammar
01-10-2008, 05:19 AM
My god man, I've already tested everything from all elements to all areas where it crashed and it all works. I've beat the game already and now I'm where serge turns to lynx and i haven't had a single problem with the SF3 game ID.

Care to elaborate? What pops did you use? Did you create a multi-disk eboot using the new pops? Did you use pyschofish's multi disk patch? or Did you simply create a single eboot?

yykcctdq
01-10-2008, 08:14 AM
Care to elaborate? What pops did you use? Did you create a multi-disk eboot using the new pops? Did you use pyschofish's multi disk patch? or Did you simply create a single eboot?

same questions :D

And i have tried a way to enter the status interface & the situation of no response has not occured in disc2 since yesterday. I have played to the scene of Terra Tower.
That is, name the disc2 id SCUS94640 - just same id like disc1
The command to make eboot is:
popstation_md.exe "Chrono Cross" "Disc 1" "Disc 2" SCUS94640 SCUS94640 SCUS94640 9 9 "X:\ChronoCrossA.iso" "X:\ChronoCrossB.iso"

I don't know if there will be any other issue occured, but till now there is no problem temporarily ;)

Mexicanmade
01-10-2008, 12:02 PM
I didn't use a patch i used popstation md. its a multidisc eboot. my compression was 1 for each disc and i used the SF3 ID on both discs.the pops version is 3.72 and everything worked.

write this in the command line

"Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" "Chrono Cross" SCUS94640 SCUS94640 SCUS94640 1 1 cc1.img cc2.img

mine were in IMG format. if yours are ISO or whatever then change it to the format you have in the command line

Veskgar
01-14-2008, 10:51 PM
Hey guys, I'm itching to upgrade to 3.80 M33-2 but I just got this working as a multi-disc EBOOT using 3.72 pops. There is no working popsloader yet for 3.80 M33-2 but I heard the 3.80 pops is improved. Does Chrono Cross play ok on 3.80 M33? If anyone has tried yet, it'd be cool to learn the results.

jtchipman
01-15-2008, 01:11 AM
Hey guys, I'm itching to upgrade to 3.80 M33-2 but I just got this working as a multi-disc EBOOT using 3.72 pops. There is no working popsloader yet for 3.80 M33-2 but I heard the 3.80 pops is improved. Does Chrono Cross play ok on 3.80 M33? If anyone has tried yet, it'd be cool to learn the results.

I'm on 3.80 m33-2 with a slim. The game will play until Hydra Marsh with the "Hi-ho Dwarves" boss battle, at which point it hangs.

Upon the release of a popsloader for 3.80, this will be fixed using the method described on this thread right? I'm sorry for my ignorance, but I'm not quite the hacking type yet love Chrono Cross enough to work this eboot sh~t until it works properly. Thanks so much.

filozof
01-15-2008, 01:21 AM
I've updated to 3.80 M33-2 today and I'm playing the game without any problems. I'm almost at the end of the 1st CD. You can use 3.72 pops with 3.80 btw.

jtchipman
01-15-2008, 01:49 AM
I've updated to 3.80 M33-2 today and I'm playing the game without any problems. I'm almost at the end of the 1st CD. You can use 3.72 pops with 3.80 btw.

i only see a popsloader for 3.71

Veskgar
01-15-2008, 01:54 AM
I've updated to 3.80 M33-2 today and I'm playing the game without any problems. I'm almost at the end of the 1st CD. You can use 3.72 pops with 3.80 btw.

:confused: Care to elaborate? I mean how would you use 3.72 pops with 3.80 M33-2 if there is no popsloader? Unless you mean edit the contents on FLASH via USB and overwrite the 3.80 pops files with the ones from 3.72.

filozof
01-15-2008, 02:12 AM
Hmmm you guys are right. I haven't touched anything and I just started playing after installing 3.80 and the game seemed to work fine. [btw I'm NOT at the end of the 1st CD, I was wrong] But I'm 12 hours through in the game already. Today, after updating, I've played like 3-4 hours and no freezes/slowdowns

And my other games also seems to work fine just like they used to when I was on 3.71 m33-4.

yuka001
01-15-2008, 08:30 AM
Hello,
Please excuse my "noobness", but...
believe me, I have been reading threads about Chrono Cross for PSP, how to make eboots, multidiscs eboots, I've been trying many many things over the last two days but so far I have failed miserably...

So, my question is just: has anyone managed to play CC on a PSP slim perfectly, FW 3.71 M33-4, with no crashes (status screen, mama komodo...) until the end? I read and read but couldn't find it stated clearly and I got confused with all the possible combinations of POPs, games IDs, firmwares... I think I tried them all honestly... :confused:

So, if someone managed, please just tell me "YES there's a way", or "NO it's impossible", you don't have to give me all the details (but if you want to, that's be awesome! :p)

If YES, then I'll just keep trying... Oh, just one last thing: if yes, is it a multidisc eboot or two separate for each disc?

Thanks a lot!

filozof
01-15-2008, 10:53 AM
Hello,
Please excuse my "noobness", but...
believe me, I have been reading threads about Chrono Cross for PSP, how to make eboots, multidiscs eboots, I've been trying many many things over the last two days but so far I have failed miserably...

So, my question is just: has anyone managed to play CC on a PSP slim perfectly, FW 3.71 M33-4, with no crashes (status screen, mama komodo...) until the end? I read and read but couldn't find it stated clearly and I got confused with all the possible combinations of POPs, games IDs, firmwares... I think I tried them all honestly... :confused:

So, if someone managed, please just tell me "YES there's a way", or "NO it's impossible", you don't have to give me all the details (but if you want to, that's be awesome! :p)

If YES, then I'll just keep trying... Oh, just one last thing: if yes, is it a multidisc eboot or two separate for each disc?

Thanks a lot!Yes, it's possible with the 3.72 pops. Just look at the first post for the game ID. It works perfect.

yuka001
01-15-2008, 11:14 AM
Yes, it's possible with the 3.72 pops. Just look at the first post for the game ID. It works perfect.

Thanks for your reply! Yeah, I have to use SCUS 94640 right?
However in the first post it also said: "3.71 M33-3 POPSLOADER released!
Set it to 3.40 or 3.51 (obviously, heh)."

So that's why I was confused, i'm using M33-4, I assumed it was the same... so, 3.72 pops you say?

Then... one multidisc eboot for both discs, or two eboots for disc 1 and 2?

(If I just have this last detail i think I'll manage the rest by myself...)

Thanks!

akadewboy
01-15-2008, 12:17 PM
Thanks for your reply! Yeah, I have to use SCUS 94640 right?
However in the first post it also said: "3.71 M33-3 POPSLOADER released!
Set it to 3.40 or 3.51 (obviously, heh)."

So that's why I was confused, i'm using M33-4, I assumed it was the same... so, 3.72 pops you say?

Then... one multidisc eboot for both discs, or two eboots for disc 1 and 2?

(If I just have this last detail i think I'll manage the rest by myself...)

Thanks!

To set up popsloader follow this tutorial: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=87901

Once you have it all set up, You can now choose what version of the emulator you want the game to run in. Now you have a couple of options about the disk change problem.

If you want to make a multi-disk eboot (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=794496), it's only going to work in 3.72. The EBOOT is going to be huge, so if you don't want to use that much space, then do the next option instead.

If you want to make two single disk eboots, then you are going to have to use psychospacefish's patch (http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=63194). You can use 3.40, 3.51, or 3.72 this way.

It's up to you which eboot and version of pops you want to use.

Mexicanmade
01-15-2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks for your reply! Yeah, I have to use SCUS 94640 right?
However in the first post it also said: "3.71 M33-3 POPSLOADER released!
Set it to 3.40 or 3.51 (obviously, heh)."

So that's why I was confused, i'm using M33-4, I assumed it was the same... so, 3.72 pops you say?

Then... one multidisc eboot for both discs, or two eboots for disc 1 and 2?

(If I just have this last detail i think I'll manage the rest by myself...)

Thanks!If you want seperate eboots for disc 1 and 2 then use the psychospacefish's patch and load 3.51 pops

but if you want the multidisc chrono cross load pops 3.72

both wont crash with the SCUS94640 ID

Edit: I Didn't read the last post XD we wrote almost the same thing

yuka001
01-15-2008, 05:47 PM
OK, I retried everything from the beginning:
I reinstalled 3.71 M33-4 with popsloader (bugfixed) on my PSP slim.
I set my psp to 3.71 kernel and followed the popsloader and psardumper tutorial and did everything from A to Z (I only copied prx files for 340, 351 and 372) and I copied them in seplugins/popsloader. In the popsloader tutorial, it says to use the original sony update file for the firmware and rename it EBOOT.PBP, which I did with 371.PBP (maybe I should use 372?)
I created my eboot from fresh isos called CHRONOCROSS.iso and CHRONOCROSScd2.iso using id SCUS94640 and RS-GUI 2, to make a multi-disc eboot.
I enabled the popsloader in the recovery... I then placed the eboot in PSP/GAME

and when I start the game with pops 3.72, I get error 80000004, could not start the game...

when I start with pops "original from flash", the game launches, the intro plays perfect BUT it still crashes when I access the status screen...

If you see anything wrong in what i've done, let me know, I'm desperate now... I want to play this game on my psp so badly... :(

Thanks for your help.

Mexicanmade
01-15-2008, 06:07 PM
OK, I retried everything from the beginning:
I reinstalled 3.71 M33-4 with popsloader (bugfixed) on my PSP slim.
I set my psp to 3.71 kernel and followed the popsloader and psardumper tutorial and did everything from A to Z (I only copied prx files for 340, 351 and 372) and I copied them in seplugins/popsloader. In the popsloader tutorial, it says to use the original sony update file for the firmware and rename it EBOOT.PBP, which I did with 371.PBP (maybe I should use 372?)
I created my eboot from fresh isos called CHRONOCROSS.iso and CHRONOCROSScd2.iso using id SCUS94640 and RS-GUI 2, to make a multi-disc eboot.
I enabled the popsloader in the recovery... I then placed the eboot in PSP/GAME

and when I start the game with pops 3.72, I get error 80000004, could not start the game...

when I start with pops "original from flash", the game launches, the intro plays perfect BUT it still crashes when I access the status screen...

If you see anything wrong in what i've done, let me know, I'm desperate now... I want to play this game on my psp so badly... :(

Thanks for your help.Yea you were also supposed to do the same with 3.72 official eboot but I'll upload my 3.72 pops files and PM them to you and see if that works

dav0087
01-15-2008, 08:37 PM
Just a quick question. How is chrono cross faring on 3.80 M33? Has anyone gven it a try?

yuka001
01-16-2008, 04:48 AM
Yea you were also supposed to do the same with 3.72 official eboot but I'll upload my 3.72 pops files and PM them to you and see if that works

Oh, thank you so much!
I received your PM, I'll try that tonight when I get home.
If it doesn't work, I'll try to create my own files with the psardumper with the 3.72 official eboot.

I'll tell you how it goes.

Thanks again!

Veskgar
01-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Hmmm you guys are right. I haven't touched anything and I just started playing after installing 3.80 and the game seemed to work fine. [btw I'm NOT at the end of the 1st CD, I was wrong] But I'm 12 hours through in the game already. Today, after updating, I've played like 3-4 hours and no freezes/slowdowns

And my other games also seems to work fine just like they used to when I was on 3.71 m33-4.

Well I guess I should have asked if you are using a multi-disc EBOOT created with the new popstation_md by Dark_AleX?

Or are you using a single disc EBOOT of Disc 1 of the game?

yuka001
01-16-2008, 02:40 PM
Yea you were also supposed to do the same with 3.72 official eboot but I'll upload my 3.72 pops files and PM them to you and see if that works

Oh my god!
It works with the files you sent me!
I'm sooooo happy!!!
Thank you so much! You were a great help!

The status screen no longer freezes! I hope it won't freeze in other places like Mama Komodo or somewhere else, but I'll keep you updated!

Thanks again and you guys are awesome for your tutorials and help!

irulethegalaxy
01-16-2008, 02:44 PM
You'll get through Mama fine, if you did everything right. I was so excited at that point that I had to stop playing so I could do a little victory dance around my living room LOL.

filozof
01-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Well I guess I should have asked if you are using a multi-disc EBOOT created with the new popstation_md by Dark_AleX?

Or are you using a single disc EBOOT of Disc 1 of the game?
Multi-disc EBOOT. And it's working just the way it was when I was using 3.72 pops. So no problems there.

yuka001
01-16-2008, 04:03 PM
Ok, passed Mama Komodo EASY! ^^
Having a blast!
Thanks again!!!

Mexicanmade
01-16-2008, 04:31 PM
You'll get through Mama fine, if you did everything right. I was so excited at that point that I had to stop playing so I could do a little victory dance around my living room LOL.XD awesome i was cracking up when i read that.

I'm glad it works and believe me it wont freeze anymore because i beat it twice after changing to that ID
also make sure you guys thank jinx for finding the ID in the first place

Gackt
01-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Great, the game is not freezing anymore on status screen on 3.80 M33.:D

irulethegalaxy
01-16-2008, 04:40 PM
XD awesome i was cracking up when i read that.


You'd have laughed even harder if you'd seen the dance . . .:eek:

Mexicanmade
01-16-2008, 04:53 PM
Great, the game is not freezing anymore on status screen on 3.80 M33.:DI'd Update but im very big on customizing my psp and when it is FULLY customizable I'll update :)

Then ill test everything again

cronez
01-16-2008, 07:04 PM
on 3.80M33-4 the game freezes during the mama komodo battle.

akadewboy
01-16-2008, 07:22 PM
on 3.80M33-4 the game freezes during the mama komodo battle.

But which GameID did you use? The original or the Syphon Filter 3 ID?

cronez
01-16-2008, 07:52 PM
But which GameID did you use? The original or the Syphon Filter 3 ID?

SCUS94640. havent tried others yet.

Mexicanmade
01-17-2008, 01:20 AM
Gackt said that it doesn't crash in the status screen and then cronez said that it does crash when fighting that dam boss komodo

can anyone confirm this?

filozof
01-17-2008, 02:22 AM
The game does not crash on the status screen on 3.80 pops. Just tried it. I think you guys are doing something wrong.

Gackt
01-17-2008, 03:20 AM
The game really crashes in mama komodo battle on 3.80 M33 :(:(
Well, the best pops for this game is still 3.40 and 3.51. :rolleyes:

djkatarat
01-17-2008, 05:59 AM
The game really crashes in mama komodo battle on 3.80 M33 :(:(
Well, the best pops for this game is still 3.40 and 3.51. :rolleyes:

well, technically u should be on 3.80m33 but you should be running 3.72 pops with this game.

hasn't crashed for me yet, but didn't get to boss yet, will reply later with my results (first time playing, been dying to play, so give me a break with my slowness:))


in the meantime..

im using sony 8gb, and slim psp 3.80m33-4, pops 3.72 with pops loader 3.80

also, i havent formatted the stick since i first got it...back with 3.71m33-2

cronez
01-17-2008, 09:04 AM
so cruel. it froze when i was fighting mama komodo with serge alone so i thought id bring poshul and it was going great. the thing was weakened but the hit that killed it froze the game x-x

btw i tried the new popsloader for 3.80 m33-X and ran 3.72 pops and it didnt work too well. froze on status screen and the boss fight.

djkatarat
01-17-2008, 11:43 AM
i dont even know if its the same fight u guys are talking about...but i was told to retrieve three scales or something? used for a necklace i believe? and then i got two, then while getting the last one, i killed the two little things, then a big one came, i beat that one, got the third thing, exited back to the map and saved. is this the part u guys are saying its freezing at?

i believe it is, cause i did a bit of research, and i seen poshul fighting the mama komodo. however, i did it alone? i dont even know who poshul is or where to get him/her.

cant wait till i learn this game. :)


when i was building the eboot.pbp, i used the ID SCUS94640 for all three spots while building the game.

MAIN, disc 1, and disc 2.

also, my discs were ripped with clonecd in img/ccd format.


i will give more details if its needed. just ask.

irulethegalaxy
01-17-2008, 01:40 PM
For those of you who are freezing:

First of all, make sure you have the MULTIDISC pops set up, including the bugfix.

I found that when making two sets of eboots from the SAME source that the game would freeze at status AND Mama on 3.71 with the SF3 id ON A SINGLE DISC EBOOT. When I used the same source to make my multidisc eboot, it did NOT freeze. The magic here seems to be WITH the multidisc eboot AND the id AND the pops. It's synergy :).

djkatarat
01-19-2008, 11:35 AM
i havent reached there yet, however, when i get there, i dont want it to screw up, and force me to start from the beginning.

i set up main, disc 1, and disc 2 to have the GAMEID SCUS 94640.


will this mess up the saves for me when im half way?


also, i see the option to switch disc, but i cant choose it, is it because its not time to switch discs yet?

:)i just want to get this info out of the way, so that way i dont waste time playing half the game, and then unable to proceed, because of carelessness.

Z-B8
01-19-2008, 01:14 PM
In the last few posts, people always discribe exactly what they do, except what Game ID they are using. That makes this somehow senseless.... :(

So if it works with 3.80M33-4 and pops version 3.40/3.51, does this mean with the original ID or the Syphon Filter ID mentioned in post #1?

akadewboy
01-19-2008, 02:30 PM
In the last few posts, people always discribe exactly what they do, except what Game ID they are using. That makes this somehow senseless.... :(

So if it works with 3.80M33-4 and pops version 3.40/3.51, does this mean with the original ID or the Syphon Filter ID mentioned in post #1?

Usually people posting in here are using the Syphon Filter 3 ID. It works in 3.40, 3.51, and 3.72.

djkatarat
01-19-2008, 06:36 PM
In the last few posts, people always discribe exactly what they do, except what Game ID they are using. That makes this somehow senseless.... :(

So if it works with 3.80M33-4 and pops version 3.40/3.51, does this mean with the original ID or the Syphon Filter ID mentioned in post #1?

im sorry man, but what the hell are u talking about? ur post makes no sense at all.

if u look at the three posts before ur post, it says which ID's to use, and TWO OF THOSE POSTS ARE MINE.

filozof
01-19-2008, 09:16 PM
We're all using SCUS 94640

Rethion
01-19-2008, 10:20 PM
I made a multidisk eboot and every time I start the game after choosing 3.72 or any other pops I get a Game could not be started screen with CA000005...

Can anyone help? I've been trying to get this game working forever.

Rethion
01-19-2008, 10:58 PM
I made a multidisk eboot and every time I start the game after choosing 3.72 or any other pops I get a Game could not be started screen with CA000005...

Can anyone help? I've been trying to get this game working forever.

Never mind, for some reason it's working now...:confused: I can't wait to try this out, I love CC!

Rethion
01-19-2008, 11:11 PM
Never mind, for some reason it's working now...:confused: I can't wait to try this out, I love CC!

Froze.. on the first battle. Just swirled and stopped at a black screen.:(
I guess I'll try the individual Eboots on an an Earlier POPS..

Rethion
01-20-2008, 12:09 AM
Froze.. on the first battle. Just swirled and stopped at a black screen.:(
I guess I'll try the individual Eboots on an an Earlier POPS..

Still froze in battles, and there was a horrid sound glitch. I guess my PSP and Chrono Cross were never meant to be.

Mexicanmade
01-21-2008, 01:42 PM
I Just Updated to 3.80M33-5 and will report what i find and maybe solutions if there are problems with it

filozof
01-21-2008, 07:07 PM
Still froze in battles, and there was a horrid sound glitch. I guess my PSP and Chrono Cross were never meant to be.

Mine is working just fine. Using 3.80 pops and no glitches at all.

kngai
01-22-2008, 03:17 AM
The game froze on me when in Status Menu and fighting Mama Komodo :mad:

I am using:
-PSP Slim
-cfw 3.80 M33-5
-3.80 M33 Popsloader v2
-3.72 POPS
-GAME ID is SCUS 94640
-Have Poshul in party (if that may make any difference)

Update:
Used the exact same setup and scenerio, but using 3.51 POPS. Still no good :(