Rumor: Rumble enabled SIXAXIS prototypes in hands of developers

[Zeus]

A gaming site is claiming that they can confirm that prototypes of the new rumble enabled SIXAXIS controller for PS3 have found their way into the hands of a number of official Sony developers. The new version is also expected to ship with the console and will replace the non-rumble enabled version.



We can confirm that prototypes of the new rumble-enabled controllers have made their way to various Sony developers. Information on these controllers is still closely held by Sony and their partners, but an official announcement and unveiling is expected in the next two to three months. Leipzig is the most obvious guess for this unveiling, but we believe Sony is going to withhold the controllers until they can launch them to coincide with support from enough developers.

We can also confirm that new versions of the Sixaxis controller are quietly replacing the original controllers launched with the console. Hardware updates occur regularly throughout the lifespan of controllers; in this case, Sony has improved the fidelity of motion sensing in the controller. The original controllers apparently suffered of too much of a dead zone.


News Source: <A href="http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2007/08/01/ps3-controller-news-and-rumors/" target="_blank">Innnerbits.com</a>

[jerzmob]

i'll say this is FACT!!!

well...i am no anticipating rumble that much but they did mention a new "innovative" design and handle so i hope to see that turn out well for the sixaxis

[-Solidus-]

So in other words the people who bought a ps3 get shafted all over again. In a fair world they will let people swap there old pads for the new versions if there is such a dead zone problem. Same with the rumble pads. I feel sorry for the people who bought 4 pads at launch.

[satel]

next generation touchsense rumble ;)

http://www.immersion.com/gaming/video_pc/next-gen/index.php :cool:

[kcvfr400]

Perhaps this new touch sense rumble will actually make rumble interesting again as it really got boring after a short while on gran turismo and every game since that has it. Hands rumbling doesn't translate as anything much in most games and I have been enjoying the lighter ps3 pads more and hate it when I forget to turn rumble off on my 360 as it doesn't do much. In fact I would say the speaker on the wiimote does way more for me than rumble.

[psychospeedster]

So in other words the people who bought a ps3 get shafted all over again. In a fair world they will let people swap there old pads for the new versions if there is such a dead zone problem. Same with the rumble pads. I feel sorry for the people who bought 4 pads at launch.

all the console owners have been getting shafted, you had to pay for you wireless 360 controllers charge n play (cost almost as much as the contoller itself), you have to pay for the classic controller for the wii, rumble packs for the n64, even the genesis 6-button pad. a high protion of everything you found standard on the controllers of the past in their later years had to be rebought by the consumers that jumped in first. Feel sorry for the people who payed out the ass for the many options that should have came standard from the get go.

[-Solidus-]

all the console owners have been getting shafted, you had to pay for you wireless 360 controllers charge n play (cost almost as much as the contoller itself), you have to pay for the classic controller for the wii, rumble packs for the n64, even the genesis 6-button pad. a high protion of everything you found standard on the controllers of the past in their later years had to be rebought by the consumers that jumped in first. Feel sorry for the people who payed out the ass for the many options that should have came standard from the get go.

360 charge and play? I just use batteries...
Classic controller for the wii is useless (still havnt found anything that its good for...)
N64 rumble packs where add-ons, so you've already bought the pad, now attach this rather that "ok, all games are gonna have rumble now, so your gonna need new pads" and i can only think of a handful of games for the genesis/megadrive that made use of all 6 buttons.

[Section8]

I will buy a new pad and let my 11 year old use the non-rumble one with his sticky jam sandwich fingers. Already had to dismantle one 360 controller to clean jam or marmalade out from the buttons. lol

[Oner]

360 charge and play? I just use batteries...
Classic controller for the wii is useless (still havnt found anything that its good for...)
N64 rumble packs where add-ons, so you've already bought the pad, now attach this rather that "ok, all games are gonna have rumble now, so your gonna need new pads" and i can only think of a handful of games for the genesis/megadrive that made use of all 6 buttons.

And that means you don't have to buy the NEW SixAxis Rumble either then so what is your point?

[grapeape]

And that means you don't have to buy the NEW SixAxis Rumble either then so what is your point?

I think that was his point...its an addon...its not required and not even guaranteed that it will get much support. If its bundled in soon there is a good chance it will be accepted wirely enough to be concidered "standard" but as it is...its just something extra to have.

[TheClockWork]

next generation touchsense rumble ;)

http://www.immersion.com/gaming/video_pc/next-gen/index.php :cool:
Yes because more rumble is better. It feels like a machinegun... WTF? Do you really want to feel the controller like a machinegun ? Then you'll have problems with your body and get some shake syndrom mofo :P

[Sinar]

Rumble is last gen.. unless immersion gets paid, too little too late sony it may have touchsense but it also lacks pocketsense for the consumer.

[beastt]

And that means you don't have to buy the NEW SixAxis Rumble either then so what is your point?
hes just trying to bash sony with every opportunity he gets thats all. I'll just return my ps3 to bestbuy cause of my replacement plan :D and get the new ps3 witha 80gb and a rumble :D

[-Solidus-]

hes just trying to bash sony with every opportunity he gets thats all. I'll just return my ps3 to bestbuy cause of my replacement plan :D and get the new ps3 witha 80gb and a rumble :D

Sorry, was that directed at me or Oner?

Good idea with the replacement plan though! but knowing sony they wont release em untill AFTER everyones plans run out, lol.

By the way my last post was interpreted, I suppose it could taken either way. One the on hand, rumble could be another useless "addon" on sonys part that barely any games will use, but on the other hand it could really take off with developers and gamers would HAVE to fork out for all new pads to play the new games.

Either way, I still want someway of trading in my current "old tech" ps3 pads for new ones. lol.

[KainXS]

Sorry, was that directed at me or Oner?

Good idea with the replacement plan though! but knowing sony they wont release em untill AFTER everyones plans run out, lol.

By the way my last post was interpreted, I suppose it could taken either way. One the on hand, rumble could be another useless "addon" on sonys part that barely any games will use, but on the other hand it could really take off with developers and gamers would HAVE to fork out for all new pads to play the new games.

Either way, I still want someway of trading in my current "old tech" ps3 pads for new ones. lol.

im pretty sure they'll do a trade in program

[mystic54]

next generation touchsense rumble ;)

http://www.immersion.com/gaming/video_pc/next-gen/index.php :cool:
Ah brings back the memories of "rumble was last gen" by Sony. I can't believe nobody has mentioned that yet.

They should have included this from the start because I already owned the non rumble controllers, I would be slightly unhappy with Sony right now.

[Rockman_Joey]

So in other words the people who bought a ps3 get shafted all over again. In a fair world they will let people swap there old pads for the new versions if there is such a dead zone problem. Same with the rumble pads. I feel sorry for the people who bought 4 pads at launch.

I don't particularly feel shafted at all. I'm going to get the rumble controller of course but I can still use the controllers which I currently have for fighting games because I smash the **** outta controller when playing Guilty Gear, Street Fighter, KOF, Tekken 5 DR Online, Virtua Fighter 5 and rumble pretty much gets in the way of some games.

Rumble is a fantastic touch in FPS, Action, Puzzle, Racing and TPS.

[humpmasterflex]

Ah brings back the memories of "rumble was last gen" by Sony. I can't believe nobody has mentioned that yet.

They should have included this from the start because I already owned the non rumble controllers, I would be slightly unhappy with Sony right now.

Just like M$ said 1080p and HDMI are not needed...... hmmmm.....

[LeGioN1202]

Ah brings back the memories of "rumble was last gen" by Sony. I can't believe nobody has mentioned that yet.

They should have included this from the start because I already owned the non rumble controllers, I would be slightly unhappy with Sony right now.

Just how MS said large HDD's weren't needed, then released a 120GB Elite.

Or how MS said HDMI isn't needed, then released HDMI on the Elite.

Maybe even how MS said they do not support HDD required games... now why would they need larger HDD's?

Or how they thought HD content wasn't a big deal, then released the HD-DVD add-on.

Ms said some stupid **** too, even more stupid than Sony.

Sorry, but to me it seems like MS copies Sony alot more than people think Sony copies Nintendo.

Elite is a complete ripoff off of the PS3, for $20 less and ALOT less functionality. Do I also need to mention the ridiculously OVERPRICED accessories? Or maybe even the fact that it is so next gen that the controller requires batteries instead of rechargable Lithium batteries that have been present in most new consoles/handhelds.

[mystic54]

Apparently my comment was lost on others. I mentioned it because that is always what the hardcore xbox fanboys mention in an attempt to make fun of Sony. I was trying to prempt them because I hate reading that comment over and over. I was saving them the time because it is always brought up by them for a "supposedly" shameful Sony moment or something.

Sorry if you guys thought I was trying to poke some fun.

[DEDDOA]

Personally, the sooner they release them the better. Frankly I find the sixaxis to be amoung the worst controllers I have used, it feels too light and cheap without the rumble weights, and the spongy trigger buttons are bloody awfull to use compared to every other pad with triggers I have use since the Sega Saturn's analogue controller (dreamcast, gamecube, xbox, 360, PC and assorted 3rd party versions). A friend whom I showed the PS3 to recently who currently has a PS2, even said the first thing he would do is get third party contollers, as even the PS2 pad is far better by comparisson and the 360 pad just leaves it for dust (incidentally showing him the PS3 with Resistance, Motorstorm, VF5, Genji, Darkness, Ridge racer 7, Tekken 5: DR and assorted demo's just convinced him to buy a 360 instead, as he thought appart from super rub a dub it really wasn't as good as a 360).

Give us a switched analogue/dpad layout which is far more comfortable, and a bit more weight with the rumble weights, and I will be happy, so long as there are some worth while games to play on as well (not to mention rumble patches for current games)

[DEDDOA]

Just how MS said large HDD's weren't needed, then released a 120GB Elite.

Or how MS said HDMI isn't needed, then released HDMI on the Elite.

Maybe even how MS said they do not support HDD required games... now why would they need larger HDD's?

Or how they thought HD content wasn't a big deal, then released the HD-DVD add-on.

Ms said some stupid **** too, even more stupid than Sony.

Sorry, but to me it seems like MS copies Sony alot more than people think Sony copies Nintendo.

Elite is a complete ripoff off of the PS3, for $20 less and ALOT less functionality. Do I also need to mention the ridiculously OVERPRICED accessories? Or maybe even the fact that it is so next gen that the controller requires batteries instead of rechargable Lithium batteries that have been present in most new consoles/handhelds.

HDMI is not needed, the only reason the PS3 has it as standard is because it is needed for security reasons on blu-ray movies, which is given away even more so when MS only give the HDMI standard games would need not the full blown movie one that BD movies need. MS just gave another connection option but for me already provide the best one that the PS3 doesn't, as in VGA(which means I can't keep it on my desk wich in turn means it spends most of it's time in the box except when I am showing people why they are better of at the mommnet with a 360 or Wii).

Larger HDD's are for content like films on demand, which means in most countries at the momment they are uneeded, but the option is there. I personally think the HDD should have been a standard, and that is the real HDD mistake by MS.

The HD-DVD drive is just an optional extra, it will not enhance or alter the gaming experience at all

Yes MS have said some stupid things, but most if not all are forgetable next to some of the stuff the likes of Jack trenton comes up with, I am still expecting the "PS3 is the cure for cancer" and "PS3 is the only thing that can save sick babies, puppies and kittens".

I'd realy like to know how the elite copies sony, is it because it's black and has HDMI, damn my DVD player is a PS3 rip off as it has HDMI and is black :rolleyes: I personally find the here the 360 controller to be on average £2 cheaper than the sixaxis and the wired version to be £11 cheaper, so do the math, not to mention that I prefer ability to recharge the controllers with out haveing to keep the console plugged in, though I will say I prefer the Ps3 option of not needing to buy a seperate recharging source (the quick charge or wired recharge packs should have been bundles with the console). That said I preffer the ability to just change the batteries should they start to hold charge for less time than buying new controllers.

[LeGioN1202]

Apparently my comment was lost on others. I mentioned it because that is always what the hardcore xbox fanboys mention in an attempt to make fun of Sony. I was trying to prempt them because I hate reading that comment over and over. I was saving them the time because it is always brought up by them for a "supposedly" shameful Sony moment or something.

Sorry if you guys thought I was trying to poke some fun.

Then I guess I took it completely wrong then. I thought it was an attack on Sony that wasn't really justified seeing what I responded with, lol.

Sorry for the confusion.

[LeGioN1202]

HDMI is not needed, the only reason the PS3 has it as standard is because it is needed for security reasons on blu-ray movies, which is given away even more so when MS only give the HDMI standard games would need not the full blown movie one that BD movies need. MS just gave another connection option but for me already provide the best one that the PS3 doesn't, as in VGA(which means I can't keep it on my desk wich in turn means it spends most of it's time in the box except when I am showing people why they are better of at the mommnet with a 360 or Wii).

Larger HDD's are for content like films on demand, which means in most countries at the momment they are uneeded, but the option is there. I personally think the HDD should have been a standard, and that is the real HDD mistake by MS.

The HD-DVD drive is just an optional extra, it will not enhance or alter the gaming experience at all

Yes MS have said some stupid things, but most if not all are forgetable next to some of the stuff the likes of Jack trenton comes up with, I am still expecting the "PS3 is the cure for cancer" and "PS3 is the only thing that can save sick babies, puppies and kittens".

I'd realy like to know how the elite copies sony, is it because it's black and has HDMI, damn my DVD player is a PS3 rip off as it has HDMI and is black :rolleyes: I personally find the here the 360 controller to be on average £2 cheaper than the sixaxis and the wired version to be £11 cheaper, so do the math, not to mention that I prefer ability to recharge the controllers with out haveing to keep the console plugged in, though I will say I prefer the Ps3 option of not needing to buy a seperate recharging source (the quick charge or wired recharge packs should have been bundles with the console). That said I preffer the ability to just change the batteries should they start to hold charge for less time than buying new controllers.

Your DVD players has HDMI because HDMI is required for upscaling DVD's to 1080i.

HDMI is not added for security reasons either, no Blu-Ray movie or game uses this so called "security" and if they do, it won't be for at least another 3+ years which by then HD TV's will be much more common in households.

The reason why I say the Elite is a ripoff is simply because MS bashed Sony, claiming HDMI was not necessary, large HDD's weren't necessary, then released a console with both of these added, but for a large pricetag.

Anyway you look at it, the PS3 is much more worth it's price than the Elite is. Why have HDMI? For when you purchase an HD-DVD addon to bring your total to $649.99? They bitched about price too if you remember correctly... yet with accessories and such, now with some possibly becoming "forced upon you" (HDD), the 360 is becoming the more expensive console this generation.

I don't know what your getting at, but $500 PS3 is a FAR BETTER value than a $450 Elite. I play all my games wireless, why do I need to shell out $90 for it on the 360? Then I will also need Live as I play games over the net... sorry but $600 for it without the additional HD Movie playback or 7.1 channel PCM audio is just not worth it.

I'll stick to the Falcon whenever it comes out.

[grapeape]

Your DVD players has HDMI because HDMI is required for upscaling DVD's to 1080i.

HDMI is not added for security reasons either, no Blu-Ray movie or game uses this so called "security" and if they do, it won't be for at least another 3+ years which by then HD TV's will be much more common in households.

The reason why I say the Elite is a ripoff is simply because MS bashed Sony, claiming HDMI was not necessary, large HDD's weren't necessary, then released a console with both of these added, but for a large pricetag.



Wasnt sure if you knew this but the only reason HDMI is required on most TV's for upscaling is because of the security flags. There are several players that have been hacked to allow 1080i scart and component but they are the exception.

The security you mention (I assume your talking about BD+) wont be used is just about guaranteed to be the first line of defense Sony uses when the numbers become great enough for it to matter. People think being banned from Live is bad...wait till people get thier consoles bricked.

[DEDDOA]

Your DVD players has HDMI because HDMI is required for upscaling DVD's to 1080i.

HDMI is not added for security reasons either, no Blu-Ray movie or game uses this so called "security" and if they do, it won't be for at least another 3+ years which by then HD TV's will be much more common in households.

The reason why I say the Elite is a ripoff is simply because MS bashed Sony, claiming HDMI was not necessary, large HDD's weren't necessary, then released a console with both of these added, but for a large pricetag.

Anyway you look at it, the PS3 is much more worth it's price than the Elite is. Why have HDMI? For when you purchase an HD-DVD addon to bring your total to $649.99? They bitched about price too if you remember correctly... yet with accessories and such, now with some possibly becoming "forced upon you" (HDD), the 360 is becoming the more expensive console this generation.

I don't know what your getting at, but $500 PS3 is a FAR BETTER value than a $450 Elite. I play all my games wireless, why do I need to shell out $90 for it on the 360? Then I will also need Live as I play games over the net... sorry but $600 for it without the additional HD Movie playback or 7.1 channel PCM audio is just not worth it.

I'll stick to the Falcon whenever it comes out.

The bigger HDD and HDMI are not forced on you as you don't need to buy what I agree is an overpriced elite, however as I said, the larger HDD is not needed for games, and neither is the HD-DVD drive, both are an option if you want to watch films (either on HD-DVD disks, or if you are lucky enough to get the video on demand service where you live, here in the UK we are not so the bigger drive is not needed).

I won't deny tjhat the PS3 is a far better value for money package than an elite with a HD-DVD drive and don't forget the wireless network adapter. However, if like myself you have 0 need of any of that as you just want a games console (and like myself can't see the diference in HDMI v Component or 1080i v 1080p, and prefer the VGA option) then the PS3 is nowhere near the value for money a premium 360.

In the UK a lot of places offer a 360 with 2 wireless controllers and 2-3 games for £279.99 (the RRP for just the console and 1 controller) compared to around £400-425 for a PS3 an extra controller and a combination of 2-3 games and in some cases a HDMI lead (or maybe 1 less game and a Blu-ray film). Personally I'd go for the 360 if I didn't own both a PS3 and 360 already, as it is simply better value for money for playing games, not to mention you could likley pick up 3-5 more games or even better a game or 2 and the MS steering wheel for the same price as the PS3 deals. This all my own personal view of course as I still prefer games over format (as I don't have to choose) and frankly at the moment the 360 is better on all fronts that count for a games console (the PC is still my format of choice and that is nowhere near value for money for games :( ).

[satel]

Yes because more rumble is better. It feels like a machinegun... WTF? Do you really want to feel the controller like a machinegun ? Then you'll have problems with your body and get some shake syndrom mofo :P

do you honestly think they will make a controller rumble feels like a machine gun ?? some xbots are out of this world :rolleyes:

[msa]

PS3 is last-gen CONFIRMED!

[Xenogears V]

Finally! .

[Almighty_Peanut]

im pretty sure they'll do a trade in program

yeah, trade in your old pads + $39.99 and i'm sure you'll get the new pads. makes me glad i didn't buy 4 controllers right off the bat. only bought one 1 extra at launch.