Sony President - PlayStation 3 Is Only Using 20% Of It's Power

[DC RID3R]

When quizzed by the Financial Times whether or not the Nintendo Wii's success, compared to the PlayStation 3, is down to its creativity, Sir Howard Stringer, Sony CEO, hit back by stating that there's nothing to worry about, and that when it comes to games, PlayStation 3 owners are only experiencing 20% of what the console is capable of producing. Stringer added that because of the cost factor, it takes a while for producers to embrace the full bandwidth of the PS3, but once these costs start to fall (the recent Devstation 07 conference revealed that 50GB Blu-ray discs will become available for game titles this year), and they start to use the full bandwidth, game experiences will be stunning.

I think PlayStation 3 is following a particular trend of 1 and 2, and if you looked at the history of it, it’s a very similar history. It takes a long time for producers, and more time because of the cost factor, to embrace the full bandwidth of PlayStation 3. It’s only using 20% of it right now. And producers will always wait to see how it’s going, and once they use the full bandwidth the games experience is stunning.

What do you guys make of this? Is the PS3 only using 20% of it's power?

News source: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ebccb53a-1a9b-11dc-8bf0-000b5df10621.html

[ASSPOP]

ok.... and this sony fud again :rolleyes:

[XxBigP123xX]

i just got motrostorm 2 days ago and if that game only uses 20% of ps3's power then wow

[Retroboy]

you'd have to be stupid to assume PS3 games are using the full systems power.

Even the 360 isnt yet.

It will be another year or so before developers really start tapping next gen power.

[Sinar]

Bullcrap in its purest form. I think we see 50/60% max.
Computational power seen under folding@home can't really happen in games.
In the end this is just marketing crap, right now there is underuse and understatement with some overconfidence. Games are games and ps3 will barely change how these are ran and displayed no matter what the hardware.

[{{909}}]

20% is a load of BS, sure games arn't using the full power available but i doubt its that %.
If you do look back at the history of ALL consoles, only about 2% of games ever do push the machine, developers such as EA or eidos are more interested in developing games cross platform than pushing 1 machine to its limits.

Thats one of the reasons why i think the PS3 is over priced/spec'ed, all that power is never going to be used as most games are going to be developed with the 360 in mind to ensure they can be sold on 2 formats instead of just 1, just like very few games last gen pushed xbox hardware since they were tuned to work on the weaker PS2.

[DEDDOA]

I love these statements, it kind of like when the the guy from epic said the same about GOW and the console it is on. If you know there is another 80% available then why is it not being used, sounds to me more like we are being screwed with comments like that, they may as well say "we know we can do better but can't be arsed" :D . But nah, i know it's just marketing blurb. The simple fact is over time devs will figure out new ways to do things and work arounds for stuff that will make games look better on all 3 consoles, as has always been the case. So while "only using 20%" is just spin, the fact is all 3 consoles will get better. Maybe the PS3 will get a bit better by comparisson to present mainly because it has a bit of catching up to do with another console which I won't mention as fanboys get upset.

[Lefty420]

Bah who cares its gonna be 2 little 2 late. Sony are major jokers if they think they can still sell consoles for £400+. People just get a wii60 put them out of there missery.

[Basta]

They dont say that 20% only cpu usage is, but gpu is nearly 100%, if only 20% for cpu & gpu, why most games dont support 1080p? This 20% Bullshit topic is couple of month old.

[Cloud.S]

Sony talk so much ****.

I am actaully getting sick of it. I have never scene a company talk up thier product so much.

[tirlibibi]

they said excatly the same thing with the PS2, 5 years after i do not really noticed 5x better games on the PS2 !! (better for sure than there is 5years but not 5x impressive !) Sony always use the same lies and propaganda...

[kayjay]

no drop the price already! noone is interested in how powerful the ps3 is. THE HIGH PRICEPOINT is keeping sales low.

[Cloud.S]

drop it from 1K to 500-600 AU and then maybe i might get interested.

[XxBigP123xX]

Sony talk so much ****.

I am actaully getting sick of it. I have never scene a company talk up thier product so much.
um microsoft?

[harryisme]

I think this is the usual spin on the amount of power the console is used, sure it might use only 20-40% of the processing power, but it probably uses higher % of the Graphics chip capabilities, if it was then it would mean the RX chipset is more much more powerful than Nvidia current top of range graphics chips.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting this figure from the average CPU usage and the average blu-ray space usage. an average game doesn't need the full capabilities of the Cell processor and most games won't take more than 7GB space (14% of total space available).

So in order to use 100% of the PS3 capabilities, the game needs to use full Cell processing full graphics capabilities and full blu-ray storage capabilities. Don't see that ever happening.

remember he said bandwidth not power.

[KainXS]

i think its only using 20% because the ps3 does not have enough bandwidth to use much more than that

a real screw up on sony's end

[TheClockWork]

ahem... They can only speak about the Cell Processor Power and I also think that aren't only 20% but I bet that there could be more done on the Cell Processor. But don't forget that it's only the processor :D a friend of mine got a C2D 6600 @ 3.6. GHZ! with a suckysucky GFX and he only got 3477 Points @ 3DMark06. He now has, with his GeForce 8800 GTS 640mb - 11490 Points. So I think that's not bad isn't it? The thing is that of course the best CPU cann't do anything when the graphicCard is crap. IMHO the PS3 graphics will hardly be better than MGS4 or FF13 graphics and these games look so XBOX360'isch nowadays :D.

Of course things like physics done by CPU etc. would be alot better on PS3 but actually, these things are for now moving on graphicCards with for Example DX10 or the PhysX thing :). When you really think about it, the whole PS3 technic is fail :). It's 1 year newer than XB360 and is from a technical perspective not that better :). My PC is pwning PS3 graphics to end :D. So @ Sony, begin to make some good games or originally stuff instead of defending your PS3 @ a technical level, because also if it is and will be the best looking game system on that console area, it could've done so much better and could be so damn cheaper.

[dannybII]

I think the f'kin idiot is totally missing the point.... if the Wii is p!ssing all over it using supposedly inferior DVD5's and low end horsepower it just goes to highlight the fact gamers aren't seduced by disc capacity. It's playability/affordability that is winning the battle at the moment. The fact is they aren't producing the games that are winning over punters with the space and hardware they have got so what difference will chucking more capacity at them make?

You look at games like tetris that will run on my phone fer feck sake, it doesn't need a 50GB disc to hold that.

[STKD]

How about using that other supposed 80% for games actually worth buying then?
It doesn't matter how much of it's capability a machine is using. The Wii has a fraction of the supposed power of the PS3, yet they're the ones ahead with 7-8 million sold in just 7-8 months. Why is that? Not more power, but better quality games and a better experience for everyone.

[bondbillon]

I am still waiting in the P$2 the graphics like TOY STORY they said it will show the P$2.... I think everyone now what happened.... that did not happen... :rolleyes:

[kcvfr400]

Out of the people at sony who like to constantly spin about the playstation machines this is the only man so far that always seem to live in the real world so actually I take what he says as optimisum backed up with knowledge of what is happeneing with the PS3. I really can't understand those who expect to much of the ps3 at the moment as last year I didn't expect to much of the 360 and I hold out with hope for decent wii games as its too early to judge to much.

[Xenogears V]

20%, sure, all Ps3 exit game are a sh*t, Resistence: Fall Of Man in comparison to Gear of war is to sh*t..

[iratasan]

they said excatly the same thing with the PS2, 5 years after i do not really noticed 5x better games on the PS2 !! (better for sure than there is 5years but not 5x impressive !) Sony always use the same lies and propaganda...

i guess you never played 1st gen games on the ps2 and later compared them to god of war, right?


I think this is the usual spin on the amount of power the console is used, sure it might use only 20-40% of the processing power, but it probably uses higher % of the Graphics chip capabilities, if it was then it would mean the RX chipset is more much more powerful than Nvidia current top of range graphics chips.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting this figure from the average CPU usage and the average blu-ray space usage. an average game doesn't need the full capabilities of the Cell processor and most games won't take more than 7GB space (14% of total space available).

So in order to use 100% of the PS3 capabilities, the game needs to use full Cell processing full graphics capabilities and full blu-ray storage capabilities. Don't see that ever happening.

remember he said bandwidth not power.


They dont say that 20% only cpu usage is, but gpu is nearly 100%, if only 20% for cpu & gpu, why most games dont support 1080p? This 20% Bullshit topic is couple of month old.


ahem... They can only speak about the Cell Processor Power and I also think that aren't only 20% but I bet that there could be more done on the Cell Processor. But don't forget that it's only the processor :D a friend of mine got a C2D 6600 @ 3.6. GHZ! with a suckysucky GFX and he only got 3477 Points @ 3DMark06. He now has, with his GeForce 8800 GTS 640mb - 11490 Points. So I think that's not bad isn't it? The thing is that of course the best CPU cann't do anything when the graphicCard is crap. IMHO the PS3 graphics will hardly be better than MGS4 or FF13 graphics and these games look so XBOX360'isch nowadays :D.

Of course things like physics done by CPU etc. would be alot better on PS3 but actually, these things are for now moving on graphicCards with for Example DX10 or the PhysX thing :). When you really think about it, the whole PS3 technic is fail :). It's 1 year newer than XB360 and is from a technical perspective not that better :). My PC is pwning PS3 graphics to end :D. So @ Sony, begin to make some good games or originally stuff instead of defending your PS3 @ a technical level, because also if it is and will be the best looking game system on that console area, it could've done so much better and could be so damn cheaper.

yippiieeeee, it's wanna-be developer time.

if i buy you a drink will you let me stick my gpu into your cpu? :D

bottom line:

it takes developers years to get just a slight clue of how to make use of a consoles power.

by now developers start to get a clue how to use the 360s power right, they will do eventually with the ps3 and for the wii it just does not matter as innovation is the basic factor why the wii is kickin' both competitors bottoms.

about the 20%, who cares? it's marketing for mario's sake. sony, microsoft, where is the difference?

easy as that.

[SSChevy2001]

Old news. The CPU might only be seeing 20% usage on some games, but the GPU is fully being used. Overtime more CPU usages will be consumed, and the GPU usage will be more efficient. Really though does anyone expect to see 5x better graphics? I don't. Point being no one cares about PS3 hype anymore. It's all talk and no show.

1080P Games BS - almost all are 720P
4D Gaming BS - Delayed Gaming is about it
Better Graphics BS - Haven't seen them yet ( Oblivion doesn't count dev time )
Advantages of Blu-ray BS - Show me one console game that needs 25GB or 50GB, which uses ingame cutscenes. ( PS3 Blu-ray is slow )
The list keeps going on an on.....

[agne]

lol


i just got motrostorm 2 days ago and if that game only uses 20% of ps3's power then wow

yeah 720p and 30 fps wow and why they not use more off the PS3 Power ???
lol CRAP

[Razgrith]

I pay 600 for a console and I'm only experiencing "20% of it's power"? WTF? Jesus someone fire those morons. We need an employee reboot in Sony Computer Entertainment NOW! Every department is doing well except this particular bunch. Same thing with the Xbox 360. I'm paying hard-earned 400 for something that only lasts between a few months and a few minutes. Note to Microsoft: Please stop overworking those chinks holding soldering irons and copper fiber. They can't hardly tell the difference between components for a gaming console and a cheap sidewalk RC car.

[WickedSkin]

Muppets, the lot of you.

[Trashcat]

20%? Should be no problem releasing a patch for any game out there to make them run 1080p@60fps right?

[SteveNZ]

Hardly anything is ever able to use anywhere near 100% of the SPU, GPU and CPU simultaneously, so this is just more Sony PR BS.

Anyway, power is irrelevant - Where's the damn games guys!? I'm still playing Oblivion...

[Nervsys]

So Sony have sold everyone a ferrari, but for now its limited to 50mph.

And if we all behave maybe one day they'll let us have the rest.

Lucky us!

Or on the other hand it could just be the usual Sony B.oll.o.x

Considering the frame rate issues, graphic issues, compared to 360 etc, they really ought to unlock than power before its too late (or maybe the PS3 isn't quite that powerful).

Yes I know PS2 games got better and better each year, but not better by a multiple of x5.

[iratasan]

yep guys, keep ignoring the basic facts of gaming. it's sad that this forum is crowded by 14 year olds that can not REMEMBER the basics as they weren't born when nintendo and sega battled it out. shouldn't you be playing counter strike at this time of the day? :D

[sickdrummer]

ok, here we go again sony. what else isnt the ps3 doing? 1 excuse after another with these guys

[pangbulle]

yeah yeah sytop yapping about how little of its capacity its using and just make a game that uses 100% of its power k thx now stfu

[lee6370]

Quote from Phil Harrison "Sony's games on PS3 right now use "less than half" of the PS3, he said. "Nobody will ever use 100 percent of its capability."

Which begs the question if they will never use 100% how much will they use?

[daspazz]

ahem... Tblah blah blah!.....

Of course things like physics done by CPU etc. would be alot better on PS3 but actually, these things are for now moving on graphicCards with for Example DX10 or the PhysX thing :). When you really think about it, the whole PS3 technic is fail :). It's 1 year newer than XB360 and is from a technical perspective not that better :). My PC is pwning PS3 graphics to end :D. So @ Sony, begin to make some good games or originally stuff instead of defending your PS3 @ a technical level, because also if it is and will be the best looking game system on that console area, it could've done so much better and could be so damn cheaper.

But at what price does a PC p0wn a ps3? Hmm 300-400 for a nice dual core CPU system with a but load of RAM. And then another 400-500 dollars for a nice fast kick arse video/graphic card. :confused:

Very closed to the cost of a ps3. :eek:

I'm just sayin' is all! :rolleyes:

[daspazz]

lol



yeah 720p and 30 fps wow and why they not use more off the PS3 Power ???
lol CRAP

Looks stellar on my 60" Sony DLP! :D

[Retroboy]

But at what price does a PC p0wn a ps3? Hmm 300-400 for a nice dual core CPU system with a but load of RAM. And then another 400-500 dollars for a nice fast kick arse video/graphic card. :confused:

Very closed to the cost of a ps3. :eek:

I'm just sayin' is all! :rolleyes:

also lets not forget, when i built my pc it was tip top, could run games that the 360 had no problem, but in time to come i will have to upgrade my pc to play future game (and not a great graphical improvement compared to the PS3/360)

so yes the PS3 is expensive, the 360 was, but in time the price will drop and it will offer games equal to pc gamers at a cheaper long run cost.

[grd94533]

If the PS3 is only using 20% of its true power, shouldn't I be paying only 20% of what those games cost?

[lee6370]

If the PS3 is only using 20% of its true power, shouldn't I be paying only 20% of what those games cost?

That's the sort of logic I like.

[daspazz]

That's the sort of logic I like.

Just wait until the games drop to 20% of the original selling costs! :D

[Scorpion3]

also lets not forget, when i built my pc it was tip top, could run games that the 360 had no problem, but in time to come i will have to upgrade my pc to play future game (and not a great graphical improvement compared to the PS3/360)

so yes the PS3 is expensive, the 360 was, but in time the price will drop and it will offer games equal to pc gamers at a cheaper long run cost.

Very well said, it's the only reason I'm not a PC gamer anymore.


yep guys, keep ignoring the basic facts of gaming. it's sad that this forum is crowded by 14 year olds that can not REMEMBER the basics as they weren't born when nintendo and sega battled it out. shouldn't you be playing counter strike at this time of the day? :D

Well, you also have some people, not to mention any names, that thinks this is the second generation of gaming. If gaming started with the Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher, I don't think I'd be a gamer.

[lee6370]

Well, you also have some people, not to mention any names, that thinks this is the second generation of gaming. If gaming started with the Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher, I don't think I'd be a gamer.

How true, **** some of us remember the Spectrum vs C64.

[iratasan]

Definition of lame: people who flame other members in their signatures. Also see: pathetic, lonely, and cowardice.

lol. that coming from the first person that actually was the first person on MC that flamed someone in his signature is just hillarious. :D




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