Qoob Chip Release

[gargoyle67]

Hi,

Just Wondering When This chip is out, i know the bios is out but isn't the chip supposed to be out already about 2 weeks ago ??
I'm holding off buying a viper because i like the usb and some of the options of the qoob, i know the viper is supposed to be coming out with usb soon also , anyone got a release date on this also.

Thanks.

[Xboxmodder999]

THe Qoob Pro is shipping now(or at least in stock), loook in the thread I posted below for a few links on where to get them.

Qoob Thread (http://forums.maxconsole.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4861)

[gulliver]

Originally posted by gargoyle67
Hi,

Just Wondering When This chip is out, i know the bios is out but isn't the chip supposed to be out already about 2 weeks ago ??
I'm holding off buying a viper because i like the usb and some of the options of the qoob, i know the viper is supposed to be coming out with usb soon also , anyone got a release date on this also.

Thanks.

the viper will support usb soon too. It's in the cobra 1.0 nfo. After that, there won't be any real difference between the chips unless it turns out that qoob uses their own bios.

I know I know, the qoob has more memory, but it's just a sales gimic anyway, you'll never need to use it.

[Johnneke]

Originally posted by gulliver
the viper will support usb soon too. It's in the cobra 1.0 nfo. After that, there won't be any real difference between the chips unless it turns out that qoob uses their own bios.

I know I know, the qoob has more memory, but it's just a sales gimic anyway, you'll never need to use it.

The qoob DOES uses it ownz bios, this is a fact since they have implemented things cobra havent!

[gulliver]

Originally posted by Johnneke
The qoob DOES uses it ownz bios, this is a fact since they have implemented things cobra havent!

Apparently you have not researched your claim before you made it. The only thing the qoob bios has right now that cobra doesn't is audiofix. The only reason cobra doesn't have it yet is because they implemented other features into 1.0 that they found to be more important and they are going to fix it in a future release. A simple audiofix does not prove that qoob has its own bios.

[SigmaX6]

seriously; not dissing anyones modchip creation skillz, but you only need two things really, noswap(cobra) and no dre's(well cobra so far with right media and version of cube lol), im sticking to my viper unless qoob brings out something mad whack like an hdloader for gc lol

[plan-9]

if you have a viper already theres really no reason to buy a qoob right now. but if you dont have a chip yet and want one..i would go with qoob.

[gulliver]

I agree, except I wouldn't go with the qoob if I didn't have a chip yet. From what I understand it's more expensive and Viper has the cheat function which is a really nice feature. But to each his own.

[Xboxmodder999]

I think we need to wait and see what updates are released for both the Viper and the Qoob. Thats whats really going to matter no what chip is better, but what bios/features are released for each chip.

[rammkorn]

Originally posted by Xboxmodder999
I think we need to wait and see what updates are released for both the Viper and the Qoob. Thats whats really going to matter no what chip is better, but what bios/features are released for each chip.

No reason at now to be a Fun of Viper or even of qoob.
The features make a chip better than another.
For now the good choice is the qoob, tomorrow would be the viper like it was "yesterday" or maybe some other chip, who knows?

[Johnneke]

Originally posted by gulliver
I agree, except I wouldn't go with the qoob if I didn't have a chip yet. From what I understand it's more expensive and Viper has the cheat function which is a really nice feature. But to each his own.

Qoob SX is cheaper as the viper and what you are saying is just plain untrue, Qoob does support +r media to oh well they probably stole this from another leaked beta from mentalcube to, and btw did anyone ever see a leaked beta that had noswap, if there ever was this leak why didnt ANYONE hear about it, we only know there was a leak because cobra claims it! Anyway the qoob bios is much more advanced, they had that new routine to handle dre's better to and that works to in fact! I can now play crap princo mini dvdrs that wouldnt play for 5sec on cobra or previous qoob releases! +r media works fine on qoob to, and the audiostream well that works fine to, you all act like these are minor fixes that everyone could do, in fact they are not otherwise someone else would have fixed these issues long before qoob did!!!

[Xboxmodder999]

I don't give a **** whether they stole it or not. If they did, then they have made some nice improvements to it, which is nice. If they didn't and just based their bios of of anaconda release like they said, then thats cool too.

Now lets stop saying which chip is better and see what kind of updates are released for both chips. I'm happy with my Viper, and I won't be selling it, but I think that I will buy a Qoob Pro and install it into my second gamecube, so that I can test them both and have the best of both.

[Johnneke]

I'm just pointing out the facts, I got 2 cubes here 1 with the viper and 1 with the qoob so I can compare, the only thing one should choose a viper for over a qoob is cheat system and thats the only thing it does better at the time being, who knows maybe cobra will indeed surpass the qoob but I have no idea how they would do this, since well everything one could think of is now supported in the qoob (+r/audiostream/idlefix/lessdre) maybe more tweaking can be done and I'm unsure of that but as of now its just silly to point a finger to the qoob team for stealing this noswap from cobra since there is no way a team could do all the things qoob done in just 2/3 weeks, if it was possible the cobra team would be just plain slow. Like you said xboxmodder if they would have stolen it ok who cares but I dont think its right to just go say or think they did since there is just notthing out there that even looks like they did this. except the words from mentalcube.

[Johnneke]

Originally posted by gulliver
I agree, except I wouldn't go with the qoob if I didn't have a chip yet. From what I understand it's more expensive and Viper has the cheat function which is a really nice feature. But to each his own.

Only thing I am putting my point here btw is because of this its just not smart advise to give people and your so against the qoob that you almost look like a friend of mentalcube. Once again when comparing the two chips and current latest bios'es there is NOTHING that the viper handles better then the qoob, just nothing, the smart advise would be to say go with a viper if you desperately need cheats only, or maybe when you dont wanne spent the 10 extra bucks when you want a pro. If you already got a viper keep it and dont spent any extra buck whatsoever since they will sooner or later come with the fixes qoob has given us to, maybe stolen from qoob even gulliver ;)

[Xboxmodder999]

I don't really think that they stole the code either, but if they did, who cares, theres nothing we can do about it. Lets move on and see what comes from the two chips/teams.

[gulliver]

@ Johnneke - I already addressed the audiofix. It is a small fix despite what you say and cobra will have it in a future release. It's just a fact. As far as +R media - cobra 1.0 can play +R. I know qoob had a fix that allowed +R to work, but last I checked it couldn't direct boot +R (correct me if I am wrong). Either way, media compatibility isn't an issue either because cobra will soon enough support all the media it boots with swap with direct boot as well.

As far as qoob being better with dres, that's something I'll never believe except for one situation. It's well known that the only bios issue there ever was with dres was the idle bug and this has been fixed. The only thing qoob could have done to make less dres is to somehow make the GC accept lesser quality media. This sounds like it's what you're saying since you said your crap media works now. I for one don't consider this a good feature, in fact, I think it's a bad feature. If you let the GC laser read crappy media then the quality of the laser is going to be drastically reduced. GC was never meant to play crappy media and it should stay that way. If you find the right combination of burner / media, and you're using a bios with the idle bug fix, you'll almost never get a dre.

So, as I stated before, there is nothing better about the qoob. They're basically the same. If you wanna say that qoob has a better bios for now, fine, but that doesn't actually make it better overall because those are all things that cobra is working on right now. Show me something that cobra isn't planning on and/or can't add that qoob has and then I'll believe you.

And you can continue to say I'm friends with mentalcube, or a fanboy or whatever. All I'm doing is stating the facts. None of this is speculation. However, I never even said that Viper was superior to qoob, just that they're pretty much the same. I'm not sure how that makes me some kind of cobra fanboy, but whatever makes you feel better;)

[Johnneke]

I'm gonna correct you since your wrong qoob does in fact DIRECT boot +r media, only thing I'm bothered with is you saying that qoob STOLE direct boot from cobra, thats just horseshit since there is no proof. and yes viper is planning it thats why I am saying that people who already have a viper should not buy a qoob since the viper will sooner or later have the same abilities, as of now if you gonna buy a modchip I say qoob is the better choice, still I say it has +r media support and audiostream fix, your so sure that audiostream fix is such a small thing how comes neither gcos or cobra figured it out yet in there MONTHS of development? Also note that the qoob design is much more thought of, I installed the qoob yesterday and well its all just a tad more professionel and thought of which is also a pro for the qoob. We cant look behind the fact that the qoob just have the better bios atm. and well if your gonna look at hardware the qoob would win to with a better design and usb in the box. Your right that the viper will soon have a bios that is up to par with the qoob but it isnt for now and that proves it is no copy of the cobra.

[gulliver]

Originally posted by Johnneke
I'm gonna correct you since your wrong qoob does in fact DIRECT boot +r media, only thing I'm bothered with is you saying that qoob STOLE direct boot from cobra, thats just horseshit since there is no proof. and yes viper is planning it thats why I am saying that people who already have a viper should not buy a qoob since the viper will sooner or later have the same abilities, as of now if you gonna buy a modchip I say qoob is the better choice, still I say it has +r media support and audiostream fix, your so sure that audiostream fix is such a small thing how comes neither gcos or cobra figured it out yet in there MONTHS of development? Also note that the qoob design is much more thought of, I installed the qoob yesterday and well its all just a tad more professionel and thought of which is also a pro for the qoob. We cant look behind the fact that the qoob just have the better bios atm. and well if your gonna look at hardware the qoob would win to with a better design and usb in the box. Your right that the viper will soon have a bios that is up to par with the qoob but it isnt for now and that proves it is no copy of the cobra.

Like I said, I wasn't sure if it direct booted +R or not. Thanks for the info. Anyway, as far as me saying qoob stole from cobra. I put that there when cobra 1.0 first came out and it seemed almost definite they stole it, at first. As of now, we won't know till both codes are cracked and released. I'm not saying they did, and I'm not saying they didn't. I'm waiting for the codes...but I am leaning towards thinking they did. But anyway, when you respond to my posts you shouldn't include the info that's in my signature, because it's actually not part of my post. If you wanna say something about my signature, just PM me. I don't know, maybe you didn't realize it's part of my signature. But anyway, I don't have anything against the qoob unless it turns out they stole. Personally, I hope they didn't because i would be good to have 2 different bioses competing.

Btw...did you see what I posted about dres? I wanna know what qoob claims they did to fix more dres because if they did, I don't think it's a good idea to let the cube read crap media.

Later.

[Johnneke]

Yeh They didnt fix dres or something just allowed more reading of discs or anything cant say if its bad for the cube or anything, had it running for hours with a crappy media with no problems what so ever.

[Xboxmodder999]

Originally posted by Johnneke
Yeh They didnt fix dres or something just allowed more reading of discs or anything cant say if its bad for the cube or anything, had it running for hours with a crappy media with no problems what so ever.

It will be weeks/months before you know if it is going to have a negative affect on the laser, not a few hours.

[Johnneke]

In fact thats not true, most damage given to a laser is by letting it run for hours and hours, go check all the burned ps two lasers, they get burned in a hour or 2. If something like this was in the run for the cube it wouldnt be wise to leave it on for hours ;) I'm not saying its 100% safe but it is a good test to see if it has problems, I try to have confident anyway that they wouldnt implement fixes that would **** up the laser. :D

[gulliver]

Originally posted by Johnneke
In fact thats not true, most damage given to a laser is by letting it run for hours and hours, go check all the burned ps two lasers, they get burned in a hour or 2. If something like this was in the run for the cube it wouldnt be wise to leave it on for hours ;) I'm not saying its 100% safe but it is a good test to see if it has problems, I try to have confident anyway that they wouldnt implement fixes that would **** up the laser. :D

Well, hopefully it won't cause any damage. I would still recommend using quality media in general though. Be nice to your cube:)

[Xboxmodder999]

Originally posted by gulliver
I would still recommend using quality media in general though. Be nice to your cube:)

Agreed, it's always better to use good media, no matter what you are using them in.

[Johnneke]

Originally posted by gulliver
Well, hopefully it won't cause any damage. I would still recommend using quality media in general though. Be nice to your cube:)

true true, in fact the Qoob team is advising the same thing ;)

[Xboxmodder999]

Originally posted by Johnneke
true true, in fact the Qoob team is advising the same thing ;)

Yeah, I did notice that in their NFO:)