A closer look at the Two Wii DVD Drive Controllers causing Wiinja problems

[Zeus]

And here is a look at BOTH of the different Wii DVD Controllers which are reportedly causing problems for Wiinja owners. The Ninja team has stated that this is an ISOLATED incident regarding their mod, but Anarchiest of the MC Forums says owners on IRC are claiming otherwise.

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[anarchiest]

the original picture was a little clearer. But text on the chips says...

Panasonic
GC2-DMS

and

blank
GC2-D2B

Panasonic is the one people are confirming working, can't see the model # in the install pictures from wiinja or cyclowiz, so for now we dont know 100% for sure...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/381147495_059eea8cd2.jpg?v=0

[ASSPOP]

I dont know about you but the Wiinja sucks major donkey ass. :D

[xllzerollx]

I dont know about you but the Wiinja sucks major donkey ass. :D
haha, weel we cant say that yet,(i think both sucks donkeylipstick), i prefer to w8 for a better team to release a better produnc, even though i dont know what better product they could make, well i may just buy one of these 2, hehe:D

[krawhitham]

I dont know about you but the Wiinja sucks major donkey ass. :D


and why is that, because TPTB are pushing the CycloWiz chip which uses the same PIC code?

if one has a problems so will the other. But at this point it is only ONE guy who has only connected 3 wires who has a problem

[zevdogs]

Hey Maxconsole Why Dont You Post What Chip Was In The Wii You Did ??????????

[thePANICHIOteam]

i wonder if it only affects some consoles in specific regions?

[BaNDiTo_RoX]

I dont know about you but the Wiinja sucks major donkey ass. :D

Don't talk crap unless you try both of em and by the way what makes you or anyone else think that the other modchip will work with the newer Wii DVD Controller chip.

They should both be tested side by side not just one of them PERIOD. I think enough bashing has been done already. I feel like im back in public school my mom makes a better peanut butter sandwich then yours.

[kneehighspy]

well i pre-ordered my cyclowiz last week, so i'll find out soon enough if it has the same issues. I think my wii is probably not affected since it's pretty close to a launch wii, but i won't know til i get my mod installed.

[ASSPOP]

Major Wet donkey ass the Wiinja sucks... :(

[peppers]

Lets try to keep things factual. People are talking about it on IRC just as some of us are in fourms. There are 2 known controllers onley one guy suspeced that the newer controller may be the problem with his failed mod install. If nintendo wanted to disable this mod on furture machines all they would have to do is ether disable the serial port, just change the password, or alter a command. All current modchips access the drive in the same way useing the serial port so if one dose not work on a paticular drive controller chances are none will.

its ez to check if serial access is still the same, simpley hook your "new" drive controller drive up to a computer and see if it still works, if it dose there is a good chance both mods still work

there is no real info saying anything ether way at this time

[ASSPOP]

I feel like im back in public school my mom makes a better peanut butter sandwich then yours.

haha thats funny how you used to do that. :(

[uzi]

so is the panasonic is in the 1st launch? cause i got mine when launched i hope mine is the working one lol

[ASSPOP]

lol yea, that would suck to have the 2nd version of the wii. :(

[gonepostl]

Don't talk crap unless you try both of em and by the way what makes you or anyone else think that the other modchip will work with the newer Wii DVD Controller chip.

They should both be tested side by side not just one of them PERIOD. I think enough bashing has been done already. I feel like im back in public school my mom makes a better peanut butter sandwich then yours.

Totally dude. The 1 dollar chip is totally worth the 60x markup. Good point.

[opnr2000]

This is a better pic of the Chip

[BaNDiTo_RoX]

Totally dude. The 1 dollar chip is totally worth the 60x markup. Good point.


Where in my post I mention cost??? I could lend you my glasses if you have a problem reading and understanding.

[mankind]

wtf, thats a 3rd number...

DMS
D2A
D2B

[mp3boy]

OH NOES CHIP NOT WORK

i'm sure someone will figure it out given a week or so. if people can hack all the various 360 drive models, someone can do the wii's too. we just have to wait for someone more skilled and generous than the masses :)

[peppers]

^that is if there is anything to fix at all

[stanneh]

it seems to me a lot of the peaple who post on this forum are extremely uninformed.

there is also a lot of posters here who are clearly well informed and understand that these issues are common in first gen chips its a slight hardware difference between the dvd drives.

whats bothering me is all this Wiinja knocking becouse before maxconsole started hyping that other chip the ones here who are slagging the wiinja off now are the same cretins that were ejaculating for the first time in their young life when the wiinja got announced.

so let me just clear one thing up for you the wiinja and that other chip "the wiinja Clone" are EXACTLY THE SAME THING so if Wiinja has an issue then so does the Wiinja clone that maxconsole has been hyping the last week or so.

So please for the love of god the uninformed peaple posting here "you know who you are" stop posting and read the posts from the informed posters its for your own benefit.

[Woozle]

To set the record straight, I was ejaculating long before the WiiNja was announced.

[idunder]

so let me just clear one thing up for you the wiinja and that other chip "the wiinja Clone" are EXACTLY THE SAME THING so if Wiinja has an issue then so does the Wiinja clone that maxconsole has been hyping the last week or so.



WHAT exactly are you basing this on?

The statement that they "are EXACTLY THE SAME THING"?

Are you the maker of either chip? Have you already dumped the code on both chips and compared them?

I wish people would stop guessing with this ****. Until someone dumps both chips, there is no way to know if the code is identical.

Since we do NOT know if both are the same, code wise, saying a problem will effect both the same way, because they are the same is incorrect!

You calling one a clone of the other without verifying this statement, adds to the ignorance here.

[vejita316]

well the solder points are in exactly the same places.. just one fact so far

[idunder]

well the solder points are in exactly the same places.. just one fact so far

These mods are injection mods on the drive.

If they work on the same data stream one would figure they would hook up to the same place.

[vejita316]

Damn, that's like saying the NME360 and Globe360 are exactly the same since they're both drive mods..

But nope, the Globe360 is upgradable (same as CycloWiz) but has a shitload more points to solder than NME360..

My point still stands that both Wiinja and CycloWiz sharing the same five points is suspect and even the WiiKey is announced to have more points than both so technically that can't be a clone of either of those two..

[Tom0303]

Sorry guy's,

i do not belive this so far. The picture we got where we can see that he soldered the Chip with wires is quite inpressive, because he only had 3 cable attached, guess it will not work without Power and ground :)

Second is that in the spain forum, he soldered the chip to another WII and there it worked, so no issue for me so far ..

We will see what happens when the chip is ready to buy and solder. One bad new's is not enough to see what will happen in the future, right?

br

Tom

[beboy]

Yet an other post from Zeus to burry Wiinja… Yay Wiinja suxx, Cyclowiz rules, buy it !!

I'll just wait a few day to know the truth… :rolleyes:

[dpathic2001]

Seems to be a void of information either confirming or denying this problem.

One user has stated a problem (with potentially incorrect wiring) whereas there are minimal posts anywhere confirming that a Wiinja installation has been sucessfull on any version of Wii.

Surely the intial batch of Wiinjas from Futura was quite large and have had attempted installs, could it be that people without an issue are too busy downloading and playing new games to post sucess on forums? :D

Anyway, my Wiinja has been confirmed for UPS delivery tomorrow, I'll install the mod regardless of my chip number and will feedback.

I ordered a Wiinja immediately on announcement but I now know I should have waited so I could slag it off without knowing any facts.

[idunder]

Damn, that's like saying the NME360 and Globe360 are exactly the same since they're both drive mods..

But nope, the Globe360 is upgradable (same as CycloWiz) but has a shitload more points to solder than NME360..

My point still stands that both Wiinja and CycloWiz sharing the same five points is suspect and even the WiiKey is announced to have more points than both so technically that can't be a clone of either of those two..

You made the point that Wiinja and CycloWiz share the same solder points. Wow, I have 5 keyboards here that both use the same PS2 port, are they all identical? Nope

The Wiinja and Cyclowiz are both based on simple microcontrollers. They are injecting code into the drive on the Wii. Until someone analyses either what each chip is doing, or someone takes the microcontroller code off of EACH chip, any statement that they are the same is just a guess at best.

The wiikey is nothing more then a drawing at this point, so to theorize on that is even more absurd.

[omega59]

it's very funny how maxconsole tries to advantage cyclowiz when clearly both chips use the same code, not to mention either both controllers work or none will work at all!

whoever posted this is a total moron njoy!

my 2 cents!

[Monkey01]

it's very funny how maxconsole tries to advantage cyclowiz when clearly both chips use the same code, not to mention either both controllers work or none will work at all!

whoever posted this is a total moron njoy!

my 2 cents!
It's not funny, it's sad.
What's sad too is that it's the second time they post this like some new info has appeared or something, but actually it's just another attempt to bring down any chip but CycloWiz, just because they get money for every CycloWiz they let the visitors buy, not because it's any better, cause it isn't.

And for the people thinking that CycloWiz will not have the same problem (if there actually is a problem, which I still highly doubt), they're just naïve. Cyclo's previous product CycloDS was a proven complete clone of SuperCard. The feautures of the chip of CycloWiz itself are the same as any other of those wiichips. Also the chips all come around the same time, so there is just no point in assuming that CycloWiz doesn't have this problem... Or actually there is, but then there is no problem with the Wiinja either. Cause really, are we still talking about that one person with the 3 wires here? And even if it was disabled by this chip number, if this poor bastard seems to be the only one with that chip number, what was the fucking problem again?

[thecheekymonkey]

heh heh, have to agree , seems a little bit biased towards certain manufacturers, always has been on here..............

[badbadtz]

Yeah too true, but at least Brakken isn't here any more, right cheekymonkey? :p

[anarchiest]

this image was linked in irc not to long ago, this is said to be the install the spanish user from the wiinja forums had done, the two points are other points that provide 3.3 and ground (verified with a multimeter accorind to the post). But the interesting part is the chip # is now known (assuming this is real)...

http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0828largeem0.jpg

http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0828largeem0.jpg

[thecheekymonkey]

Yeah too true, but at least Brakken isn't here any more, right cheekymonkey? :p

really has he gone ;)

[lenselijer]

that picture is real, my wiinja looks exactly the same.

and i still wonder why he didnt use the official installation points???

[peppers]

we know its real the cylowiz is confermed not compatable with the D2B chip and sence its not working chances are the winja suffers from the same falt
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=14131
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[omega59]

this is why i like to wait for a better modchip or atleast a softmod. or maybe atleast somthing that is upgradable?

people jump onto these crappy chips and it's a waste because clearly they aren't tested properly. but then again atleast people will know of bugs this way but what good is that if we cannot fix them without an upgrade LOL!

my 2 cents!