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stoof
01-18-2007, 05:34 AM
First of all , sorry for this post , i know that there are allready many many threads about the ms28 drive.... but i've read every single post i could find and still have major problems reading/writing this drive.
I bought a pci sata card with VIA 6421L chipset on ebay especially for this drive. still i'm stuck .
I used extreme bootmaker to make a floppy , i took some screenshots .
I think i did choose the right options..?
if i boot from the floppy , i type samread 1234567 12345 , then i get to choose the source , BUT the VIA is no option , i only get something like ide master and slave ...????:confused:
any help is really appreciated ,tnx

saleem
01-18-2007, 06:08 AM
you dont have any ide leads connected to the motherboard when you flash a samsung fw=ms28.there is a search function at the top on the right.use it,type ms28 and select the xbox360 hacking forum to search in and you will get a load of returns for previous posts.
:)

stoof
01-18-2007, 07:00 AM
i allready did use the search function (as i stated in my first post), and read all the posts... (as i stated in my first post)
anyone else got a suggestion that i can try ?
i've been reading and testing for 3 weeks now , with this ms28 drive :eek:

saleem
01-18-2007, 07:45 AM
its like the card isnt being picked up by mtkflash,if your unsure about the mtkflash that was produced by xtreme bootmaker then one of the posts will have an edited mtkflash for vt6421 and try one of them.

some people have probs with vt6421 cards.why i aint got a clue.try removing the card,and reinserting it,either in the same pci slot or another one,in one of the posts someone had a similar prob(if i'm not mistaken)and they basicly did this and it came up like a fluke.

what maufacturers card do you have?

i only pointed you to the search function because i understand that most if not all of the answers you will get are already posted so it saves waiting for answers.this is why i'm pointing at other probs that dont seem to be covered a lot in any previous threads.

your card is picked up by xtreme bootmaker but,it isnt detected by mtkflash!

try mtkflash method.so format a floppy in the floppy drive,set it to first boot device.put vt6421 mtkflash and mtkflash.typ on the floppy.

pull all the ide leads from the motherboard.

dont turn on the 360 till you get to dos and then type:
mtkflash r /m orig.bin and then you get the options.turn the 360 off and type the corresponding number for the flash,count to 10,if that dosnt work try 12 or 15.

and then turn on the 360 again.

this is just to see if you can extract from the drive,then you will have to patch the key from the orig.bin to the xtreme firmware but,first lets see if you can try anoither method that might resolve the problem for you.
:)

stoof
01-18-2007, 10:18 AM
ok , i'm gonna try with a posted mtkflash , because it's indeed like you say , it's just like mtkflash does not pick up my card when i boot from the flop :mad:
i did try it on 2 different pc's , in different pci slots , all same result.
although the pci card does work in windows .... very very strange stuff
so let's hope for the edited mtkflash posted somewhere on the forum :)

saleem
01-18-2007, 11:00 AM
theres one i posted in this forum and one on the second page.
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=38912&highlight=ms28

could be that you got onboard sata as well as a card,so if you could get a modified mtkflash for the onboard as well as the vt6421 card then p[erhaps that might do the job.

all i got is vt6421 card in this tower,the motherboard didnt have any onboard.i got one tower with intel ich5(thats just a partial build though)
:)

stoof
01-18-2007, 01:56 PM
ok , so i tried like 5 different mtkflash versions all for via 6421 , on 3 different pc's (2 without sata onboard) and i still get no drive detected :( insane ...
i think i'm going to give up , it's 3 weeks now , hours and hours it just won't work ... i don't know what to try anymore :confused:

stoof
01-18-2007, 04:38 PM
ok i got one step further , i connected a cdrom (ide) to the ide port on the sata pci 6421 card, now it shows 1 drive scanned on the via 6421 , it says sec slave .... port : d400 master/slave : b0
using mtkflash r /m /sata orig.bin
but it does not start reading
i came accros this method on another forum :
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=554698&referid=&highlight=ms28+6421

anyone ?

lenselijer
01-18-2007, 04:40 PM
make sure you connect the sata cable to the sata connector at the far end of the pci card. then connect a normal ide cdrom drive to your motherboard.

it always shows up for me that way, and when you have to flash a ms28 drive, first you boot pc with 360 already turned on, then type the samread command and you will get 2 choices: ide sec master and vt6421 pri master, now turn off your 360 and turn it back on and wait 10 seconds before pressing 2 on your pc keyboard. now it will work fine.

stoof
01-19-2007, 03:20 AM
ok tnx for the advice , really appreciate it :)
gonna try it one more time tonight, i'll keep you guys posted

sirjimjom
01-19-2007, 03:28 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=563397


ms28's are a bit tricky. I have followed this on three now. Worked every time.

stoof
01-19-2007, 09:48 AM
could it have something to do , that i'm using the xecuter "tool" to give the ms28 drive power ? (led is green , so it's not in mode B) .
I have used this for an ms25 without problems.
i just use it now because it's easier to pull the molex connector from my pc's power supply then using the xbox360 itself to power the drive

Redron
01-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Have a look at this previous post of mine it should help you, good luck
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=32713&page=2

stoof
01-21-2007, 10:09 AM
hey guys , i just flashed the bastard :)
i used a friend's pc with onboard via sata , went fine using the 10 sec trick.
i also tried the pci card (6421 chipset) did not work ; no drive detected... so my best guess is that is a fubar pci card.
i want to thank you all for the great input and help.

SFW
01-21-2007, 11:13 AM
Guys and saleem my 6421a it use 2 pickup as a via 6421raid controla it nw piksup as a via masta ide controla hav i done anythin or wot can i do to 2 fix it

saleem
01-21-2007, 11:37 AM
check the card is enabled and functioning properly in my computer/manage/device manager/scsi raid controllers.

ensure tht you got all th drivers it needs installed.

dont have anything connected to the vt6421 card.all you want on it when you do the flash is the drive and it should be connected to master port.

it should show up in dos as:
vt6421 primary master.

so if you are doing an ms25 you should have options:
ide primary master 1.
ide primary slave 2.
vt6421 primary master 3.

if you are doing ms28 then all the ide leads should be pulled from the motherboard,assuming you got the correct mtkflash you should only get one option,you turn the 360 on when dos has booted in,then if you use 360sam you type:
samread 1234567 12345 hit enter and you should just have the vt6421 option there,nothing else.

you turn off the 360,type the number for the vt6421 option,count to 10/12 and then turn the 360 on again.
:)

SFW
01-21-2007, 02:49 PM
saleem

Xtreme boomaker does`nt pick it up but device manager does there are no error codes and the device is working properly

what other options do i have plus i do have net framework 2.0 o yes ms8 drive

SFW
01-21-2007, 04:35 PM
saleem

i have succeeded halfway m8 thxs to you and the dude tht creatd the xtreme.50.rar
i can successfully read and back up my orig.bin
question in the rar files tht u copy from xtreme5.rar to floppy wher do i put the xtreme52a in there are 2 foldas 1 4 backup and samsung wot goes in the samsung folda ,.

also when i type samhack xxxxxx says it cant find the hackd.bin

odb
01-22-2007, 03:07 PM
saleem

i have succeeded halfway m8 thxs to you and the dude tht creatd the xtreme.50.rar
i can successfully read and back up my orig.bin
question in the rar files tht u copy from xtreme5.rar to floppy wher do i put the xtreme52a in there are 2 foldas 1 4 backup and samsung wot goes in the samsung folda ,.

also when i type samhack xxxxxx says it cant find the hackd.bin

i ended up like you mate ,at samhack ,and after the pc i have used broke .
now i have to find another compatible one to try again

saleem
01-22-2007, 03:51 PM
saleem

i have succeeded halfway m8 thxs to you and the dude tht creatd the xtreme.50.rar
i can successfully read and back up my orig.bin
question in the rar files tht u copy from xtreme5.rar to floppy wher do i put the xtreme52a in there are 2 foldas 1 4 backup and samsung wot goes in the samsung folda ,.

also when i type samhack xxxxxx says it cant find the hackd.bin

if that xtreme.50.rar was the xtreme firmware you should have put that in the samsung folder and renamed it to xtreme32.

then you should have ran:
samread 1234567 12345 and when you sucessfully did the extraction you would have had an hack.bin,so you could have flashed it over with the samhack command.
:)

saleem
01-22-2007, 05:36 PM
heres an easier way to modify xtreme firmware with 360sam in dos.

do this:

put x360sam.exe in a folder with your orig.bin and xtreme firmware renamed to xtreme32.name the folder 360sam and put it in my documents.

in windows do this:
go start/run/type in CMD and click okay.

in windows dos type:
cd my documents and hit enter.
cd 360sam and hit enter.
x360sam and hit enter

360sam will pop up:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/208/snap14yd.png

now type in 360sam:
x360sam.exe orig.bin xtreme32.bin hacked.bin and hit enter.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/262/snap27xx.png
note bottom line!

360sam runs:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6519/snap35pw.png

now check the 360sam folder in my documents and you will now find an hacked.bin(modified xtreme firmware):
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8720/snap56hn.png

just to be sure evrything isd fine,check the orig.bin and the hacked.bin by opening them with maximus 360 firmware toolbox v3 to check the keys match:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1921/snap17dl.png
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6463/snap22ra.png
note that the keys are identical in both the orig.bin and the modified xtreme firmware!

put this hacked.bin on your floppy/pendrive with mtkflash(for your sata type)and mtkflash.typ and flash the drive with the command:
mtkflash w /m hacked.bin
:)

SFW
01-23-2007, 12:56 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Guy`s it`s been done the MS 28 has now been flashed with the help of the
the ever so helpfull hand of SALEEM.....I commend you on your patience and
time you take out to help us blokes..And those who had posted their there comment`s and insight`s ..........:

From the confusing to the most simplist query u dealt with THANK you


:D :D :D :D :D :D